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Title: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: metalface13 on July 01, 2018, 05:18:17 AM
I'm surprised I haven't seen anything about this here, Osprey is publishing a set of cyberpunk rules by the author of This Is Not a Test.

http://wargameterrain.blogspot.com/2018/06/breaking-osprey-games-realitys-edge.html

I don't see anything about it on Osprey's site yet though. I wonder if North Star minis will be producing stuff for this game? Or we can start a discussion of suitable minis for the cyberpunk genre.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Juan on July 01, 2018, 09:57:50 AM
For the next year, I can read in Amazon...
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: metalface13 on July 01, 2018, 01:38:19 PM
Yeah, I noticed that after posting. Still, that just gives those interested more time to collect and paint minis  ;)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Psychopomp on July 02, 2018, 05:48:30 PM

Hmmm.  Maybe this will be the game I was hoping Rogue Stars would be.  It might even get me to finally take the plunge into the Infinity line after side-eying it for years wondering if I should...
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Burma44 on July 03, 2018, 07:48:26 AM
Hmmm.  Maybe this will be the game I was hoping Rogue Stars would be.  It might even get me to finally take the plunge into the Infinity line after side-eying it for years wondering if I should...

If you're looking for the game Rogue Stars should have been, then definitely check out the Star Breach ruleset: https://starbreach.com

Models agnostic, 20 different factions covering every Sci-fi trope imaginable, randomized initiative with a dice pull system, elegant in-game mechanics, campaign and tournament support, and a massive scenarios books for 2-6 players. AND it's all free to download at the website.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: dijit on July 06, 2018, 10:28:29 PM
Hmmm.  Maybe this will be the game I was hoping Rogue Stars would be.  It might even get me to finally take the plunge into the Infinity line after side-eying it for years wondering if I should...
Yeah thats sort of my hope too. Rogue Stars just didn't quite hit the spot fo me.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Dentatus on July 07, 2018, 02:51:47 AM
I have to confess I too was sorely disappointed in Rogue Stars.

I even purchased extra copies for our game group. We tried to like it, wanted to like it but it was too clunky. Not at all the 'ASOBH in Space' we'd all hoped. Won't make that mistake again.

Cyberpunk fan that I am, I'll keep an eye on this. But will wait for the reviews this time.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: salcor on July 07, 2018, 05:29:39 AM
If you didn't notice, Joseph McGuire of This is Not a Test is writing it.

Salcor
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Burma44 on July 07, 2018, 05:49:53 AM
I have to confess I too was sorely disappointed in Rogue Stars.

I even purchased extra copies for our game group. We tried to like it, wanted to like it but it was too clunky. Not at all the 'ASOBH in Space' we'd all hoped. Won't make that mistake again.

Cyberpunk fan that I am, I'll keep an eye on this. But will wait for the reviews this time.

I once read on a forum someone renaming Rogue Stars as “Homework: The Game”. Lol. A little brutal, but not entirely untrue. As I mentioned above, if you and your crew really wanted to like Rogue Stars and you dig Frostgrave or ASOBH, definitely check out Star Breach. It’s completely free too at starbreach.com too, so no harm done if you and your crew check it out and don’t like it! :)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: dijit on July 07, 2018, 06:34:57 PM
If you didn't notice, Joseph McGuire of This is Not a Test is writing it.

Salcor
Yeah thats what gives me hope, TINT is a great little game, perfect post-apoc. If he hits the right feel with this and uses the TINT mechanics we could be on a winner.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Hobby Services on July 07, 2018, 08:02:27 PM
Weird, I quite like Rogue Stars.  Didn't seem very complex to me, although it takes a few games to get a feel for the way the action system works.  Still, if you want something a little easier but thematically similar I'd recommend either Void Pirates or Blasters & Bulkheads from Four Color Studios.  http://www.four-colorstudios.com/void-pirates.html  http://www.four-colorstudios.com/blasters--bulkheads.html
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: mcfonz on July 07, 2018, 10:03:33 PM
A lot of games in recent times have suffered from misplaced hype.

So, for example, Frostgrave gathered pace amongst forums before and just after it came out as being "the new Mordenheim", in reality it plays nothing like Mordenheim and so some folk were disappointed.

Rogue Stars had the same fate. Despite Andrea sharing what the concept of the game was and that it differed quite a lot to SoBaH and the sci fi version of that game (the name escapes me), there was still quite a growing voice to call it Frostgrave in space or the new Necromunda etc etc etc.

In general, although positivity behind the hype is always welcome, I think it mislead a lot of people and therefore when they got the rules in hand and found it to be drastically different to what they expected it perhaps pushes them to reject it more readily.

I had to play a good handful of games of Frostgrave before accepting it's merits and seeing how it could be a fun game even though it wasn't the game I had expected. I suspect that Rogue Stars might be the same, the reason I haven't picked it up is due to the very small scale nature of it.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Golgotha on July 07, 2018, 11:49:55 PM
Thank you for the Star Breach definitely looks promising.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: dijit on July 08, 2018, 08:17:35 AM

Rogue Stars had the same fate. Despite Andrea sharing what the concept of the game was and that it differed quite a lot to SoBaH and the sci fi version of that game (the name escapes me), there was still quite a growing voice to call it Frostgrave in space or the new Necromunda etc etc etc.

Although true, for me it was simply the very clunky mechanics and the disparity in detail. The game mechanics were just too complicated for a game that really didn't have much granularity. By that I mean, the only way to distinguish different shooting skills was to actually give a guy a special skill, the same with all other skills. This means that most troops were pretty much the same apart from equipment. This jarred with the depth of detail within the rules mechanics. It just struck me as very odd.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: NurgleHH on July 08, 2018, 08:34:26 AM
In the moment RE is only a Name without information. What mechanism will be used? Card driven, only D6?
So, I wait for more details.

Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: dijit on July 08, 2018, 11:07:51 AM
In the moment RE is only a Name without information. What mechanism will be used? Card driven, only D6?
So, I wait for more details.
From what I've picked up on This is Not a Test's (TINT) facebook group is that it'll use the same basic mechanism as TINT.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Darathar on July 12, 2018, 10:52:52 AM
I really hope North Star are making cyberpunk minis for this... there are not enough cyberpunk miniatures in the world!
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: agent_pumpkin on September 03, 2018, 09:18:10 AM
Oooh. I hope this is going to be as good as it sounds.  :o
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: nozza_uk on September 03, 2018, 09:19:41 AM
From what I've picked up on This is Not a Test's (TINT) facebook group is that it'll use the same basic mechanism as TINT.

I'm not familiar with TINT, how does that work?
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: WulframMors on September 03, 2018, 06:14:29 PM
I'm not familiar with TINT, how does that work?

D10s system, you add a model's relevant skill to the result and either try to reach a target number (usually 10), or compare against your opponent's score.

Has a neat activation mechanic, every time you activate a model you roll an activation test. On a success, that model gets to spend two action points and you get to activate another model. On a failure that model gets one action point, and play passes to your opponent.

TNT is a really fun game, and I'm sure Reality's Edge will be too.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: NurgleHH on September 03, 2018, 09:23:58 PM
D10s system, you add a model's relevant skill to the result and either try to reach a target number (usually 10), or compare against your opponent's score.

Has a neat activation mechanic, every time you activate a model you roll an activation test. On a success, that model gets to spend two action points and you get to activate another model. On a failure that model gets one action point, and play passes to your opponent.

TNT is a really fun game, and I'm sure Reality's Edge will be too.
Sounds good, a real skirmish game. Only a few figures..
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: salcor on September 04, 2018, 12:38:50 PM
Yes TNT is anywhere from 3 to 10 mdels depending on faction.

Salcor
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: has.been on September 04, 2018, 05:41:19 PM
Interested in what develops. I have bought a lot of the Osprey rules, some I use as is,
others as a 'Starter for 10' as a dear friend of mine says, i.e. stick on extra bits you like while
removing the bits you don't like.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: johnl5555 on September 05, 2018, 08:47:06 PM
 I like how activationworks in TINT. The Fun at version we use does something similar. Fail activation and you only get 1 action. Pass, you get 2.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: hummus on September 05, 2018, 10:09:03 PM
sounds similar to fubar or dragon rampant activation
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: WulframMors on September 07, 2018, 03:25:14 AM
Yes TNT is anywhere from 3 to 10 mdels depending on faction.

Salcor

I believe every faction can get up to 20 models, but it takes a a good chunk of campaign play to get there, and even then some factions have a much harder time of it than others. My longest campaign to date ended up with a 10 model warband, not that much bigger from where we started.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Popi on September 25, 2018, 12:18:45 PM
How about network? I think it's hard to work in a skirmish game.

Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Tungdil on September 25, 2018, 12:49:08 PM
Reminds me at Shadowrun.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: salcor on September 25, 2018, 01:20:14 PM
From what I have seen hacking is a very important part of the game.

Salcor
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: commissarmoody on September 26, 2018, 01:01:00 AM
Looking forward to seeing more about this game. I am fallowing the Cyberpunk minatures but don't know of any other forums or pages to fallow to get more info. Unless he is posting more on his TINT page.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Fates Fickle Finger on October 25, 2018, 08:47:56 PM
Really interested in these rules, made my order to East Riding miniatures for some corporate wars gold😎. Anyone got any good links to some Cyberpunk miniatures 28mm ( aware of foundry, copplestone castings) some Zombie survivor ranges look ripe for conversion and even some miniatures from the modern “Spectre” range...any ideas?

FFF
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: katie on October 25, 2018, 08:59:00 PM

Moonraker - Future Skirmish
ERM - Corporate Wars - Corporate Enforcers
Prince August - Future Shock

There may also be some useful ones in Baggage Train's Future City and Andromeda ranges.

Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Historiker on October 25, 2018, 11:31:16 PM
I came to late to the "This is not a Test"-Party and unfortunately have never played that game. Apparently the rules are excellent and some of my buddies still play regularly in an established group but I never felt like investing in yet another system which I would have to start from zero.

"Reality´s Edge" might be different because I could join with publication and since it is published by Osprey the game will probably see excellent future support.

Damn,  I am already checking out Copplestone minis to use with it  :D
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: NurgleHH on October 26, 2018, 11:37:28 AM
Moonraker - Future Skirmish
ERM - Corporate Wars - Corporate Enforcers
Prince August - Future Shock

There may also be some useful ones in Baggage Train's Future City and Andromeda ranges.
I think 2000AD from Warlord is an option, also the Lead Adventure Miniatures-Range. A lot of stuff from Wargames Foundrys Near Future Range. Have a look at Nortstar, they have the Rougue Star-Range.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Dentatus on October 26, 2018, 01:20:01 PM
Human Interface: Nakamura Tower figs are nice.

http://www.hint-thegame.com/
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Earther on October 26, 2018, 10:37:00 PM
Hasslefree has some suitable character types, as does Fate Amenable To Change and Statuesque Miniatures. Some of the Studio Ministures range might be good for conversions too.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Earther on October 27, 2018, 01:02:22 PM
Take a look at the Anvil Industry range, particularly the PMC operatives and the cybernetic conversion parts.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Sir_Theo on October 27, 2018, 01:28:04 PM
Infinity?
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Dentatus on October 27, 2018, 03:30:39 PM
Infinity?

D'oh!

I bet there's a couple that might work in a pinch.  ;)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: salcor on October 27, 2018, 05:30:26 PM
So has anyone thought anymore about crowds for a game like realities edge?  There are some good O scale figures in  few threads here. Mercs Recon also had some good civilian models but they don't sell them separately.

Salcor
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: AWu on October 27, 2018, 05:37:15 PM
Cheap railway models in bulk from china. Many poses and 100 for around 5 pounds.
Not ideal, but cheap..
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Earther on October 27, 2018, 09:33:54 PM
So has anyone thought anymore about crowds for a game like realities edge?  There are some good O scale figures in  few threads here. Mercs Recon also had some good civilian models but they don't sell them separately.

Salcor

Where can tou buy the Merc civilians? Can't find them on their site.  :?
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: YPU on October 27, 2018, 09:44:52 PM
With the cheap railway figures, it might work to spray them black and give them a slight grey drybrush for that blacked out anonymous masses feel you see in a lot of art and animation. Literal faceless masses as it were, I think that might be preferable over the often brightly dressed way the figures come.

"Reality´s Edge" might be different because I could join with publication and since it is published by Osprey the game will probably see excellent future support.

I think that is debatable, the support for their games has only been high if the game was a strong success, most others got some support from author initiative or nothing at all.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: mcfonz on October 27, 2018, 09:47:25 PM
Fenris games does silouettes of people that could work if you want just blacked out representations of people?
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Historiker on October 28, 2018, 01:15:52 AM
With the cheap railway figures, it might work to spray them black and give them a slight grey drybrush for that blacked out anonymous masses feel you see in a lot of art and animation. Literal faceless masses as it were, I think that might be preferable over the often brightly dressed way the figures come.

I think that is debatable, the support for their games has only been high if the game was a strong success, most others got some support from author initiative or nothing at all.

Maybe I have over-generalised. The only Osprey game I have played so far is Frostgrave and that system has seen lots of additional publications since the core-rulebook and apparently there are further publications planned. Hoping that Reality´s Edge will do equally well :)
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Post by: Fates Fickle Finger on October 28, 2018, 10:25:02 AM
Good shout outs so far, infinity are very “anime” thinking more Blade runner than ghost in the shell😉 Anvil do some great stuff and think I could make some good contenders from the regiments range🙂. Was looking at some of the void line with some head swaps as well......keep the suggestions coming 🙂🙂👍🏻

FFF
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Post by: AWu on October 28, 2018, 10:58:24 AM
Comparison photo with stock Chinese models and Infinity and Hasslefree models

(https://scontent-waw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/44891548_2320086844692296_2855040941209681920_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent-waw1-1.xx&oh=a71fc60d78816b3fd351b3662e2587d6&oe=5C44CD69)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: salcor on October 28, 2018, 11:53:16 AM
Where can tou buy the Merc civilians? Can't find them on their site.  :?

Sorry to get their civilian miniatures you have to buy the Mercs: Recon game boxes.  I wished they would sell the civilians online individually.

AWu,
Thanks for the comparison photo.

Salcor
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Post by: Earther on October 28, 2018, 12:34:28 PM
Ah.  :( Thanks for the info. What an odd way to make them available...  ???
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Post by: n815e on October 28, 2018, 03:18:03 PM
Don’t forget the Rezolution line.

Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: salcor on October 28, 2018, 03:39:32 PM
Earther,

Yeah,

The civilians are an integral part of the Mercs:recon game.  I would assume that Megacon doesn't think anyone would want to spend money on just civilians.

Here is website that shows the different civilian minis. 

https://mellis1644.wordpress.com/2016/12/20/mercsrecon-civilians/

Salcor
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: dulydude on October 28, 2018, 09:54:09 PM
@AWu You might want to know that's an old Infinity miniature you have there, those guys are now tiny compared to the current range of minis. I have some of those stock Chinese models myself, so if I get a chance tonight I can take a picture of the newer minis with the stock Chinese models if you want.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: AWu on October 28, 2018, 11:38:49 PM
I dropped from Infinity very early so I have only 1st edition miniatures :)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: YPU on October 29, 2018, 10:56:19 AM
Comparison photo with stock Chinese models and Infinity and Hasslefree models

Those look a lot better than I remember them. I might have spoken too soon.

Maybe I have over-generalised. The only Osprey game I have played so far is Frostgrave and that system has seen lots of additional publications since the core-rulebook and apparently there are further publications planned. Hoping that Reality´s Edge will do equally well :)

I'm not bashing the idea, but frostgrave is definitely the exception at the moment. I would love to have a cyberpunk game like this do as well or better!
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: AWu on October 29, 2018, 11:13:35 AM
Cyberpunk (any Sci-fi)  - Frostgrave style would be very cool.

Simple and playable with some depth decision and campaign rules with lots of scenarios that are again simple ut fun and challenging. This is a hit recipe.

But most of the Osprey games are one shot publications.. Event very good ones like Ronin.

In Her majesty name was an exception with 3 book but Ive never seen it played.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Historiker on October 29, 2018, 08:02:00 PM
I never played "This is not a Test" but people keep telling me how great it is which is why I am quite optimistic regarding Reality´s Edge.

Would like to see more information on the game though :)

Does anyone here know whether there is some official info apart from the announcement?
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Post by: katie on October 30, 2018, 05:16:17 PM
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Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Burma44 on November 06, 2018, 01:24:04 PM
Cyberpunk (any Sci-fi)  - Frostgrave style would be very cool.

Simple and playable with some depth decision and campaign rules with lots of scenarios that are again simple ut fun and challenging. This is a hit recipe.

But most of the Osprey games are one shot publications.. Event very good ones like Ronin.

In Her majesty name was an exception with 3 book but Ive never seen it played.

If you’re looking for a solid Sci-Fi Frostgrave alternative, I highly suggest looking into Star Breach immediately: starbreach.com. Second edition just dropped and it’s solid. Free ruleset and supplements. 20 factions. Model agnostic. Massive scenarios book for 2-6 player games. Campaign and Tournament modes. It’s Frostgrave in space, but better. And free.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: sleep when Im lead on November 12, 2018, 11:53:34 AM
I have high hopes for this. I think it's written by the same guy who wrote This Is Not A Test.To my mind that was one of the better sets of small scale skirmish rules out there. I like the cyberpunk genre so will certainly be getting a copy (assuming I don't get consistently told it is a turkey). :)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Thorsmitersaw on December 10, 2018, 04:27:46 AM
From what I have seen hacking is a very important part of the game.

Salcor

Interested to see what hacking entails in the actual game mechanics. Would like to see something baked into it other than "roll a 6+ to hack this or that". Feels too much like a spell or some such to me.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: sundayhero on February 16, 2019, 06:24:58 PM
Is there any chance to see arcane/magic/psy powers in this game ? Thinking of Shadowrun of course  8)

thanks


edit : and races/archetypes too !
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Historiker on April 16, 2019, 08:34:13 PM
Has anyone of heard news of the game?

I am being told that there is quite a lot of information in a Facebook group but I don't have an account there.

On Amazon it is being listed as being released on July 25th this year. Would that be correct?

Having become a huge fan of "This is not a Test" by the same author I am very much looking forward to playing a similar system in a cyberpunk setting and I even bought my first Infinity miniatures for this reason. Great models  8)

Any news regarding the game are appreciated. Thanks :)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: YPU on April 16, 2019, 09:30:46 PM
No idea, there doesn't appear to be a dedicated facebook group that I can find, though it might be the TiNaT group?
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Historiker on April 16, 2019, 09:56:09 PM
Yes, I think that's the one!
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Post by: Storm Wolf on April 16, 2019, 10:38:48 PM
No idea, there doesn't appear to be a dedicated facebook group that I can find, though it might be the TiNaT group?


Or it's a dedicated Facebook Tina Turner fan site lol

Sorry couldn't resist

Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Banderium on April 17, 2019, 08:01:57 AM
No idea, there doesn't appear to be a dedicated facebook group that I can find, though it might be the TiNaT group?

I think he refers to the group named "Cyberpunk Miniatures Gaming" whose administrator is Joseph McGuire.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: nozza_uk on April 17, 2019, 03:19:17 PM
On Amazon it is being listed as being released on July 25th this year. Would that be correct?

Amazon showing it as selling for £35. This correct?
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Deathwing on April 17, 2019, 04:05:46 PM
Greetings sprawlers.  I am just now seeing this thread, so apologies for the lack of updates. For the time being, I have played things pretty close to the chest regarding Reality's Edge as I do not have a street date yet from Osprey.  I can say that the book is in the last stages of being prepped.  I am happy to answer any specific questions you may have, but for now a quick blast of the basics:

1.  It's TNT under the hood, but slightly more character driven. Activation is just like TNT, but models have Hit Points and more individual skills.  There are faction specific crews per se.  Instead each showrunner, the leader of the crew, pulls from the same mix of operatives. Though your showrunner's background can tweak things a bit.
2.  Crew size is between 3-9 models.  Most crews max at six models, but some character types can fill two models slots (your punk ganger bullet catchers).
3.  Hacking is included and is a opposed roll system.  I decided to keep it quick and simple.  The game has an on-board virtual element that lets avatars and physical models exist simultaneously.
4.  Basic tropes are Blade Runner and Cyberpunk 2020 inspired.  There is no magic or supernatural elements in the main world.  If the book is successful, more than happy to do a Shadownruneque supplement.
5.  There are rules for civilians getting in the way, drugs, corporate intrigue,  tons of cybernetics, equipment, and other crazy stuff.
6.  The book is huge.  Way bigger than the TNT rulebook.

Hope that helps.

Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: sundayhero on April 17, 2019, 04:14:43 PM
Quote
4.  Basic tropes are Blade Runner and Cyberpunk 2020 inspired.  There is no magic or supernatural elements in the main world.  If the book is successful, more than happy to do a Shadownruneque supplement.

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oKIPa2TdahY8LAAxy/giphy.gif?cid=790b76115cb742d13057556632796164)

I really hope (even if I think it's a mistake to not have integrated it in the main rulebook) you will do a magic and fantasy races supplement ! I already own a collection of shadowrun minis, I will be able to feed the forum with dozens of pages  lol

edit : by the way, is there a french version planned ? I know several osprey games had one. thanks
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: mkultra99 on April 17, 2019, 06:42:56 PM
Sounds awesome.. hopefully it will be what everybody has been waiting for.

Is there crew progression?
Is there a campaign? How detailed/in depth? (by way of comparison, the new KillTeam campaign is neither and sucks)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Historiker on April 17, 2019, 06:58:50 PM
Many thanks for the update! Sounds fantastic!

Really looking forward to seeing more of it in the coming months and hoping for many supplements. There can never be enough Cyberpunk  8)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Deathwing on April 18, 2019, 03:23:12 PM
Sounds awesome.. hopefully it will be what everybody has been waiting for.

Is there crew progression?
Is there a campaign? How detailed/in depth? (by way of comparison, the new KillTeam campaign is neither and sucks)

Yes and yes.  It's a bit different than TNT in the sense that stat raises are rather hard to come by.  Instead the focus is more on skills and class upgrades.  The focus is on street level operatives so no world-class assassins or Olympic level athletes.  Experience is also different.  Not everyone can get it.  Only your leader and the people you bring "in-house" as it were can be expected to want to improve, the rest of your team are just there for a paycheck, not self-improvement.   So the campaign stuff is as in-depth as TNT, though much more tailored for a more small-team of operatives.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Historiker on July 03, 2019, 10:01:53 PM
I recently read a new blog entry from the creator of "Reality´s Edge" and I hope it is okay for the author and this forum that I post it here as well:

https://worldsendpublishing.com/blogs/news/realitys-edge-developers-blog-1

That is a lot of new information and personally speaking I am even more hyped for the game and looking forward to more details. Maybe some of the people in this post find it interesting as well!

I am currently in the process of painting Hasslefree and Infinity miniatures in preparation for release day and this is where I would have a question for the forum members:

Does anyone know good pre-configured Cyberpunk terrain apart from Battle Systems Terrain?

Many thanks!
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: sundayhero on July 03, 2019, 11:02:12 PM
plastcraft games maybe ?
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Dentatus on July 04, 2019, 01:31:45 AM
I'll second PlastCraft for terrain.

(https://stalker7.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/dscf3828.jpg?w=1200&h=)

(https://stalker7.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/dscf3842.jpg?w=1000)

(https://stalker7.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/dscf3848.jpg?w=1200&h=)

Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Historiker on July 04, 2019, 11:51:01 AM
Thank you for the recommendation!

That table is exactly the kind of style I was looking for!

I will still be trying to build and paint some stuff myself but as I wanted to show my friends some demo games I needed good looking terrain that looks great and is easy to set up!

Fits perfect offers much room for creative use of terrain! Thanks again!
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: jamopower on July 09, 2019, 04:59:39 PM
Sounds like my upcoming Human interface More human than human figures will have a home. This is not a test looks like a really nice game and Cyberpunk setting is even more interesting.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: YPU on July 11, 2019, 10:06:38 PM
The second development blog is up, detailing the types of models/units you can field.

https://worldsendpublishing.com/blogs/news/realitys-edge-developers-blog-2-the-models?fbclid=IwAR0HZRi6K_DySgKp4cIj-XULL6ZgfnPC27nsDa8XrCmRYpiG_S4NxtPdTJs (https://worldsendpublishing.com/blogs/news/realitys-edge-developers-blog-2-the-models?fbclid=IwAR0HZRi6K_DySgKp4cIj-XULL6ZgfnPC27nsDa8XrCmRYpiG_S4NxtPdTJs)

This is starting to grab my interest I must say. I'm wondering about doing a cult in the style that ghibli did for a video clip.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3ttfiq (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3ttfiq)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 11, 2019, 10:21:59 PM
This is starting to grab my interest I must say. I'm wondering about doing a cult in the style that ghibli did for a video clip.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3ttfiq (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3ttfiq)

That was cool! Never seen it before though. Any other info on it?
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: YPU on July 11, 2019, 10:36:15 PM
That was cool! Never seen it before though. Any other info on it?

IIRC it was done as a bit of a refresher during other projects, it is an actual ghibli production. There is no exact story or time line, not all of the events could happen together and which are true is for the viewer to decide. It always reminded me of Evangelion in a way. Over the years people have interpreted a lot of world info from the art, but googeling the name of the song ( on your mark) should give any info that is out there.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: OSHIROmodels on July 11, 2019, 10:50:30 PM
Cheers  :)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Doppelbock on July 16, 2019, 04:19:35 AM
Joey do you know if there are any plans to offer the book in softcover at some point? I am excited to see this published but will say that the magic/fantasy aspect is the one thing I didn’t like about Shadowrun so I personally don’t need to see that in a RE supplement (but obviously I would just decline to play those rules should they be released).
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Rhelyk on July 17, 2019, 02:06:00 AM
GMG did a youtube review of it posted earlier today. Looks pretty good, I had no idea the book would be so big compared to the other Osprey games rulebooks. I'll need to look it over and see if I like it or Zone Raiders more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHvGHINQk3o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHvGHINQk3o)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Juan on July 17, 2019, 09:16:38 AM
All of this sounds really interesting. I have discovered myself searching my reserve of Sci-Fi figures and thinking about terrain. Not good...  ;)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: YPU on July 17, 2019, 10:01:09 AM
All of this sounds really interesting. I have discovered myself searching my reserve of Sci-Fi figures and thinking about terrain. Not good...  ;)

Guilty here as well...  Also re purposing some pulp figures.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Hobby Services on July 17, 2019, 03:10:56 PM
GMG did a youtube review of it posted earlier today. Looks pretty good, I had no idea the book would be so big compared to the other Osprey games rulebooks. I'll need to look it over and see if I like it or Zone Raiders more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHvGHINQk3o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHvGHINQk3o)

Good overview video, I was going to link to it myself but you've beaten me to it.  Well worth a watch if you're interested in the game.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: FionaWhite on July 18, 2019, 02:17:53 PM
This is starting to grab my interest I must say. I'm wondering about doing a cult in the style that ghibli did for a video clip.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3ttfiq (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3ttfiq)

That was wonderful. Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Cypher226 on July 18, 2019, 09:41:51 PM
Thank you, YPU. My wife's been searching for that video for 20 years, since seeing it as a music video on MTV, but had no idea what it was called!

Cheers for the brownie points  ;)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: YPU on July 22, 2019, 01:59:40 PM
Well, I hadn't expected that kind of feedback from posting a music video! Glad I could be of service.

Meanwhile, the next dev blog post is up:

https://worldsendpublishing.com/blogs/news/developer-blog-3-a-different-set-of-mechanics?fbclid=IwAR3lWRb1eSJpruDPq1Ydhey-pzyGvHAqUHKjauLW2VlygjM2y2CARxxOo30 (https://worldsendpublishing.com/blogs/news/developer-blog-3-a-different-set-of-mechanics?fbclid=IwAR3lWRb1eSJpruDPq1Ydhey-pzyGvHAqUHKjauLW2VlygjM2y2CARxxOo30)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Psychopomp on July 22, 2019, 08:14:50 PM
I haven't been following the game like I probably should have been, and the answer to this question wasn't immediately obvious:

Will there be any sort of solo-play mode?  The existance of NPCs suggests there will be an AI system (like in TINaT, if I recall correctly.)  Some solo-play scenarios vs NPCs would be amazong!
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Historiker on August 18, 2019, 04:51:34 PM
Concerning the post above mine:

Some of the characteristics of the NPCS are described in an official blog post. You can find it here:

https://worldsendpublishing.com/blogs/news/developer-blog-4-neutrals

And a question from me:

As we are nearing the release date I wanted to preorder With Osprey but found that only the hardcover book was on preorder. Will there be a PDF option as well? I would like to get both.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: YPU on August 22, 2019, 10:08:01 AM
The book should officially go on sale today, including the pdf/e-pub version. Looking at the osprey page though, its 29,80 pounds for the digital versions. Getting the hardcover from book depository is cheaper  o_o
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Daeothar on August 22, 2019, 10:43:01 AM
The book should officially go on sale today, including the pdf/e-pub version. Looking at the osprey page though, its 29,80 pounds for the digital versions. Getting the hardcover from book depository is cheaper  o_o

I think that's the hardcover PDF...
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: YPU on August 22, 2019, 11:00:42 AM
I think that's the hardcover PDF...

You know if somebody were to sell their cyberpunk game on a dedicated "dataslate" tablet for that price I would probably get it for the novelty of it lol
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Historiker on August 22, 2019, 09:56:28 PM
Thanks for the info! Got myself the hardcover and the PDF.

Right now I am scrolling through the PDF and the first expression is that this is exactly what I had hoped it would be:

This is not a Test at the core, great production quality and  and all the Cyberpunk stuff one could hope for.

What I really like is that the PDF can be properly navigated. That was absolutely necessary at 320 pages!
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: YPU on August 22, 2019, 10:17:26 PM
A osprey pdf with interlinked indexing? What is the world coming to? :D
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Historiker on August 22, 2019, 10:31:22 PM
If you mean a multi-level table of contents which is clickable and brings you directly to the page in question, yes!  Right now I am just randomly clicking through the book and reading stuff (The Frostgrave PDF have this function as well).

Will be glad to get my hardcover as I prefer rules in paper! I still tend to also buy PDFs for the search function and in this case it absolutely makes sense... so much material.

I still have way too many projects on my gaming table (mostly Frostgrave and some SAGA AoM) but I hope we will soon see more Cyberpunk projects. My stuff ist built and primed but therefore not very atmospheric  8)

Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Sir_Theo on August 23, 2019, 09:18:37 PM
Got the hardback yesterday. A lovely production and the game reads very well.

Just waiting for my HINT Be a Better Human kickstarter to land (imminently) for all the Cyberpunk miniatures so I can make a start!
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Historiker on August 23, 2019, 11:09:05 PM
People kept mentioning them on this board and so I googled them.Those are really nice models! Especially with all the variety which will provide lots of miniatures for NPCs in Reality´s Edge.

It seems there are indeed some boardgames miniatures which are just perfect for a Cyberpunk tabletop game. A friend of mine will be using the Zombicide: Invader - Kabuki Survivor pack and they actually look great next to his other minis which will be from the Corvus Belli Infinity JSA product line.

On another note, I have a question for everyone already owning the rules:

Do I read it correctly that the figure / warband limit is 7 figures meaning

1 Showrunner, 2 to 5 Operatives, 1 Shadowbacker Avatar

?

So the Shadowbacker Avatar does not count toward the 6 figure / model limit? Total anthropomorphic model limit is thereby 7?

Also: Drones do not count as they are equipment of the Drone Jockey?

I could not find confirmation in the book but this official blog entry suggests it:

https://worldsendpublishing.com/blogs/news/realitys-edge-developers-blog-2-the-models
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Jagannath on August 25, 2019, 07:09:38 PM
Slightly off topic but I've had this excellent random generator squirreled away for ages. Hoping to combine it with Reality's Edge

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/202175/Augmented-Reality-The-Holistic-City-Kit-For-Cyberpunk-Games
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: carlos13th on August 27, 2019, 05:06:42 PM
With this game coming out I really wish I had Backed Human Interface Be a Better Human. That said I have more than enough from the first Kickstarter to work with.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: zemjw on September 17, 2019, 08:29:44 PM
It's on sale over at Amazon UK just now at £22.75 rather than £35 - link (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Realitys-Edge-Cyberpunk-Skirmish-Rules/dp/1472826612/ref=sr_1_1)  :)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Historiker on September 17, 2019, 08:41:50 PM
With this game coming out I really wish I had Backed Human Interface Be a Better Human. That said I have more than enough from the first Kickstarter to work with.

In case you are still interested: They do sell Kickstarter Sets right now.

I toyed with the idea as well but I have way too much Infinity stuff lying around to justify another box right now.

On another note:

Is there any info when the FAQ or an official roster-sheet PDF might come out?

The latter would be a convenience and apparently the author is collecting questions for an official FAQ on Facebook?

Any news regarding this would be great!
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Cait Sidhe on September 18, 2019, 10:08:35 AM
It's on sale over at Amazon UK just now at £22.75 rather than £35 - link (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Realitys-Edge-Cyberpunk-Skirmish-Rules/dp/1472826612/ref=sr_1_1)  :)

Cheers, that's definitely worth a punt for me. Had a look at the PDF version but Osprey are wanting £29 for it...  ;D
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: zemjw on September 18, 2019, 08:55:01 PM
My copy just dropped through the letterbox at teatime. It is a big tome :o

Regarding the figure talk earlier, I would add
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Historiker on September 18, 2019, 09:52:23 PM
In my gaming group I have seen JSA Infinity miniatures next to the Kabuki Gang Survivor Pack from Zombicide and it works great when painted!

Might not work with all models though.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Dentatus on September 19, 2019, 11:39:35 AM
I've been eyeing that Kabuki Gang. They look great. Glad to know they mix well.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Historiker on September 19, 2019, 06:13:27 PM
I've been eyeing that Kabuki Gang. They look great. Glad to know they mix well.

Just to be precise: They are slightly bigger! Slightly!

Given the variance in human height and  that it is a setting with augmentations I would not mind at all after painting. They do look quite cool 8)
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Dan on September 21, 2019, 06:54:26 AM
My copy of the rules arrived on Thursday and I have been avidly reading it. I have a large collection of Foundry, EM4, Grenadier, Urban Mammoth and Hasslefree figures already painted up with no ruleset that seemed to fit them. I also have some old Necromunda figures as well as the newer box set. I was building terrain for that set of rules but got a bit put off with all the rule books superseding the ones I just bought. Happy now that I can make the terrain more Cyber Punk than rusty junk. My interest had lapsed in the terrain but I spent an hour or so today reimaging what it could become.
Title: Re: Reality's Edge: Cyberpunk Skirmish Rules by Osprey
Post by: Pascal on October 19, 2019, 06:57:01 PM
Just got my book in the mail today.  Reading it while I eat lunch.  Going to dig into my miniature collection to see what I have.

Does anyone have a batrep or picture of their miniatures?  Trying to figure out a miniature for the Showrunner as described in the book.  Hoping maybe Northstar gives us some miniatures for this game as well.