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Title: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Longbows 24/2
Post by: Ogrob on August 05, 2018, 03:38:10 PM
For my summer project I decided to make a proper SAGA army. I've got my Game of Thrones minis, but I thought I might as well have a somewhat historical force. I've seen the occasional picture of people taking Perry's Mahdist Ansar and making them into dark age irish, and thought "I can do that!".

So, from no real research, the key compontents of dark age irish are:
1) Bare feet
2) Knee length tunics
3) Possibly trousers

With that in mind, I identified plastic kits to use and settled on a box of Mahdist Ansar, a small set of 12 Victrix Balearic Slingers and a heavy sprinkling of bits from Warlord Games Celtic Warriors. I've ended up also using bits and pieces from Frostgrave, Gripping Beast and Conquest Games. Looking over the irish battleboard and rules, I settled on a simple list to begin with:

1 Warlord with Javelins
2 Curaidh (heroes) with Javelins
24 Warriors with Javelins
24 Levy with Slings

51 models to convert all told. It's taken me about three weeks of work to get to this stage, where I can show you all the converted models (all the Warriors with javelins will get shields after painting):

First of, for the Warlord I decided to go metal. A female barbaian from Oathsworn minis:
(https://i.imgur.com/pr2I9xW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/80dRLGF.jpg)

Levy made from Victrix bodies with a variety of heads:
(https://i.imgur.com/kvAYSSL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tJ8YTPA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/S9Cdm78.jpg)

Also made two warriors from those bodies:
(https://i.imgur.com/YZ0EkzD.jpg)

I really like the dynamic bodies of warlord celts. Inaccurate as they are, they feel close enough for me. Slingers have had sling hands swapped on from Victrix or Gripping Beast kits:
(https://i.imgur.com/K2QGa3o.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jrj6A1c.jpg)

You can probably tell I like the ducking forward bodies. Here's a closer look:
(https://i.imgur.com/FwfXBFL.jpg)

And then the main part of the builds, Ansar bodies. Heads from all sorts of kits, slings and sling arms from Victrix and GB added on.
(https://i.imgur.com/hszA93L.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LnLYDjs.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xQ5ONSa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/h9jlTg4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/L2qW9vB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PkcsCWq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qSD1HGG.jpg)

Also made two Warriors from Conquest archers. These are a bit more generically medieval, but variety is nice, don't you think?
(https://i.imgur.com/2APC1Qg.jpg)

The Curaidh were made by taking GB saxon thegn bodies and cutting off their legs to add Ansar legs. Also added arms from the ansar kit, and did some greenstuffing.
(https://i.imgur.com/vQ1uFpf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gAxhrLw.jpg)

And that's that. Here they are, all lined up ready for priming:
(https://i.imgur.com/j2E8rpl.jpg)

In the end, I'm really pleased with these builds. There are a number of inaccuracies, namely far too many kilts, some tunics really should be longer and there should probably be more cloaks but no big deal for me. What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: aircav on August 05, 2018, 06:14:21 PM
Great stuff, excellent use of the different plastics available making a unique one off Army  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Looking forward to the painted models  :D
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: fred on August 05, 2018, 08:20:34 PM
Great piece of work to convert all these figures.

They have that Irish vibe to them, even if made from a variety of sources.

Looking forward to seeing them with some paint on.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: OSHIROmodels on August 05, 2018, 08:33:05 PM
Brill conversions  8)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: Lost Egg on August 06, 2018, 06:07:06 AM
Lovely job :D It will be cool to see them all painted up.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: Romark on August 06, 2018, 07:49:54 AM
Lovely job :D It will be cool to see them all painted up.

I agree  :)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: Codsticker on August 06, 2018, 07:54:36 PM
Admirable project! I embarked on a similar one: kit bashed dark ages Irish a few years ago but gave up and bought some metal ones second hand. :'( I used Perry Ansar bodies (sometimes just the legs) as well Victrix Carthaginian Citizen warriors. The problem with the latter is the sculpted on swords.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: Ogrob on August 06, 2018, 09:14:39 PM
Thanks for the positive comments everyone!

Admirable project! I embarked on a similar one: kit bashed dark ages Irish a few years ago but gave up and bought some metal ones second hand. :'( I used Perry Ansar bodies (sometimes just the legs) as well Victrix Carthaginian Citizen warriors. The problem with the latter is the sculpted on swords.

Oh yeah, I looked at those. I think I gave them a miss because as you say, the style of the swords and belts over the shoulder. I've cut of some very ancient looking daggers from the Warlord plastics and replaced them with more dark age looking bits from GB and Conquest frames though, so it can be done.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 07, 2018, 01:23:21 PM
Great project. If you want more flowing cloaks, you can support the greenstuff layer with some balls of bluetack. After it sets they are easy to remove.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: Ogrob on August 07, 2018, 01:32:38 PM
Great project. If you want more flowing cloaks, you can support the greenstuff layer with some balls of bluetack. After it sets they are easy to remove.

That's a great tip, thank you!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: Shahbahraz on August 07, 2018, 11:36:38 PM
Great looking set of conversions to get a unique army. I love how dynamic you have made them. Looking forward to seeing these painted up.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: Phil Portway on August 09, 2018, 10:17:35 AM
Really nice conversions. That will be a lovely look band when finished
 :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: Mason on August 09, 2018, 12:18:32 PM
Great conversions!
This will be a wonderful and original army to use.
Looking forward to the colouring-in part.
 :-* :-*

Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: Whitwort Stormbringer on August 09, 2018, 03:54:11 PM
Excellent work! I think you've really captured the feel with these kitbashes, despite the disparate sources for the parts.

Really like the Ansar bodies in particular, I'll have to keep those in mind for future Dark Ages conversions. I used the Victrix Carthaginians for some Scots warriors, but wouldn't mind some variety if I did an Irish or Welsh warband...
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: Ogrob on September 01, 2018, 05:15:04 PM
Still haven't figured out how to take group photos that don't suck, but what can you do? The army is painted, and I've played one game with them.

(https://i.imgur.com/cPonkGo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IgN77Ic.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MnWg2xT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/j8enTRQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ev0zwep.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vFaEPNW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rBX8NeU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qPGjrU2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XN1eNZD.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish
Post by: Mason on September 01, 2018, 11:00:31 PM
Yep, they look the business to me.
A great, and one-of-a-kind army.
 :-* :-*

Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish
Post by: Ogrob on September 02, 2018, 07:19:17 AM
Thank you! It's an unusual project for me, to complete essentially a whole army in one go like this, but I'm really happy with the end result.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish
Post by: ayak333 on September 03, 2018, 02:01:42 PM
Fantastic work! I made celtic skirmishers with the perry sudanese as well! Mine are not half as nice as yours though!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish
Post by: Whitwort Stormbringer on September 03, 2018, 08:45:22 PM
The end result is excellent! Great paint jobs, the warband really looks the part.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish
Post by: Ogrob on September 05, 2018, 04:46:30 AM
Thank you both! I need to get a few shots of the whole army lines up as well.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish
Post by: Captain Harlock on September 05, 2018, 07:59:20 AM
Great painting
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish
Post by: OSHIROmodels on September 05, 2018, 08:01:33 AM
They've turned out well  :)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish
Post by: Bloggard on September 05, 2018, 12:25:12 PM
lovely work .-
I'm a fan of dynamic poses too (although don't manage many myself these days ...)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish
Post by: Mason on September 05, 2018, 01:29:53 PM
lovely work .-
I'm a fan of dynamic poses too (although don't manage many myself these days ...)

 lol lol
That did give me a chuckle.
 :)

Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish
Post by: Ogrob on September 05, 2018, 04:42:17 PM
lovely work .-
I'm a fan of dynamic poses too (although don't manage many myself these days ...)

If you look at the levy with slings, there's plenty of space for men of a certain age and experience :D They get to muddle about the back end of the battlefield and complain about kids these days. Belt and trousers optional.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish
Post by: has.been on September 05, 2018, 07:21:33 PM
I presume that the really nice shield designs are transfers.
 If yes, who sells them?
If no, flipping heck, well done!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish
Post by: Ogrob on September 05, 2018, 07:28:22 PM
Little Big Men studios. Strongly recommend them, really nice to work with.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish
Post by: has.been on September 06, 2018, 10:14:07 AM
Thanks for that Ogrob, I will have to check them out.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish
Post by: Bloggard on September 06, 2018, 02:41:28 PM
lol lol
That did give me a chuckle.
 :)

t'aint no laughing matter, I'll have you know ...   ;)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish
Post by: Ogrob on August 17, 2019, 09:58:03 AM
It's alive! I'll use this thread for my Dark Age and Medieval Stuff. This particular post is a little corner case, as it is a Frostgrave warband but the idea is to grow it into a SAGA Viking/Norse Gael force.

I got the new Victrix vikings earlier this summer, and I finally finished the first bunch of models. The archers are Conquest Medieval Archers, and the Wizard is a Frostgrave plastic model. Transfers from Little Big Men Studios.

(https://i.imgur.com/ATIr45n.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9xtD8ex.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Victrix Vikings 17/8
Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on August 19, 2019, 07:34:36 PM
Saw these on Facebook. I must say this is an outstanding advert for Victrix - they should use your work on their page. Making me very tempted to get some myself, although I hardly need them - got 48 of the old plastic Gripping Beast vikings, who look outstandingly dated next to these!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Victrix Vikings 17/8
Post by: Ogrob on August 20, 2019, 08:40:12 PM
Wow, that is high praise! Thank you!

They are very nice models, so much better than GB's offerings. A good solid kit as well, with lots of heads and all sorts of nice bits.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Victrix Vikings 17/8
Post by: Ogrob on September 26, 2019, 07:47:07 PM
Just a small update, but I finished the first of three Fogou Models beehive huts. Really love these, great quality casts.

Added a little bit of detailing with some bits from Mantic and I believe Steve Barber.

(https://i.imgur.com/GVlEqTg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JUcqaxy.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Fogou Beehive hut 26/9
Post by: Ogrob on September 28, 2019, 10:47:04 AM
Little Saturday morning hobbying. I've been thinking a while that the Curaidh models are the weakest of my Irish, and with the new Victrix I've been considering remaking them. I realized that I had a set of GW models with bare legs and feet so I did a bit of kitbashing and a little greenstuff. Heads from Warlord Games.

(https://i.imgur.com/FR4ke8h.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Curaidh kitbashes 28/9
Post by: Olsson on September 28, 2019, 11:04:50 AM

A thread of striking conversions and excellent paint jobs all in all! I really like the look of them and I am jealous of your ability with the greenstuff. I have never figured out how to work the stuff beyond filling in holes myself. Makes me all the more tempted to pick up a box of Victrix.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Curaidh kitbashes 28/9
Post by: Ogrob on September 28, 2019, 01:20:27 PM
Thank you! Don't have too many tips for greenstuff other than practice. Sometimes it won't work out, but that's ok, especially when working with plastics.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Curaidh kitbashes 28/9
Post by: HappyChappy439 on September 29, 2019, 10:16:29 AM
A lot of great conversions in this thread! And nice showcase of the Victrix figs, definitely impressed with the quality there (and how you've used them too!) Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Curaidh kitbashes 28/9
Post by: Ogrob on October 04, 2019, 10:16:42 PM
And here they are, the lads! Keen to defend Ireland against all sorts of heathens.

(https://i.imgur.com/MPFFnaY.jpg)

Whaddya think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Curaidh painted 5/10
Post by: has.been on October 05, 2019, 12:23:52 PM
I like, I like a lot!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Curaidh painted 5/10
Post by: Eoin OCnaimhsi on October 05, 2019, 05:36:51 PM
Very impressive. They look amazing.

As an Irish man who Slings, its great to see my predecessors modelled so well!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Curaidh painted 5/10
Post by: Ogrob on October 05, 2019, 11:13:08 PM
Thank you guys! More to come for sure, playing a lot of SAGA at the moment.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Curaidh painted 5/10
Post by: FreakyFenton on October 05, 2019, 11:22:11 PM
Cracking conversions, just saw this thread now, now that I'm here though I marvel at the work you put into them!  :D

Cool! 
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Curaidh painted 5/10
Post by: HappyChappy439 on October 05, 2019, 11:48:30 PM
Looking excellent! Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Curaidh painted 5/10
Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on October 09, 2019, 09:30:14 AM
Love it. Really characterful painting. Great stuff.

For some reason I'm really amused one of them has a little pot belly.  lol
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Curaidh painted 5/10
Post by: Ogrob on October 09, 2019, 10:44:33 AM
My favourite sculpt from the set. You get two total :)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Curaidh painted 5/10
Post by: Ogrob on November 02, 2019, 09:39:37 PM
My latest LPL entry features a few more Vikings.

(https://i.imgur.com/jVYLmNC.jpg)

And close up:
(https://i.imgur.com/UIhVYRt.jpg)

You can also see another couple of Fogou houses that I've finished recently. Love these, and may need to buy several more.
(https://i.imgur.com/HHPEa4c.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Victrix vikings and Fogou huts 2/11
Post by: HappyChappy439 on November 02, 2019, 10:08:55 PM
Looking great! I'm really impressed with how the hair/cloth areas have turned out especially.

(Also, love those lil beehive houses!)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Victrix vikings and Fogou huts 2/11
Post by: AKULA on November 02, 2019, 10:48:05 PM
Excellent paint jobs & I love the buildings as well

 8)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Victrix vikings and Fogou huts 2/11
Post by: Ogrob on February 21, 2020, 06:19:03 PM
Hey guys! A couple more vikings/norse gael painted. Mostly victrix with a few Perry ansar bodies mixed in for those barefoot Irish types. The shield maid is a Victrix celt kindly gifted by Koyote, I swapped her arms and added some more viking style knife and sword to her belt.

(https://i.imgur.com/AtqLOcv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2YZ63uN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hwmhhh9.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Vikings/norse gael 21/2
Post by: Chimpfoot on February 21, 2020, 06:29:05 PM
What a great thread, creative conversions expertly executed can't wait to see more
Thanks for sharing :)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Vikings/norse gael 21/2
Post by: Captain Blood on February 21, 2020, 06:55:09 PM
Very tasty  :-*
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Vikings/norse gael 21/2
Post by: HappyChappy439 on February 21, 2020, 06:57:51 PM
Oh! Nice use of the Ansar bodies! Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Vikings/norse gael 21/2
Post by: Atheling on February 21, 2020, 07:21:34 PM
Inventive stuff  8) 8) 8)

The brushwork is lovely too  :-*
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Vikings/norse gael 21/2
Post by: Ogrob on February 21, 2020, 08:11:55 PM
Thank you guys! I struggled a little with motivation on these, but a game of SAGA last week got me going again. Will try to get a few more with javelins done at least, and then we'll see how Wargames Atlantic's irish look in the flesh when they come out.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Vikings/norse gael 21/2
Post by: Koyote on February 21, 2020, 08:17:17 PM
Lovely work.

Converting the Victrix Celtic warrior queen into a Viking shield maiden is a brilliant idea.  I'm definitely going to do the same for my Pagan Rus.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8923/Q61wp0.gif)


Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Vikings/norse gael 21/2
Post by: Ogrob on February 21, 2020, 09:34:05 PM
Lovely work.

Converting the Victrix Celtic warrior queen into a Viking shield maiden is a brilliant idea.  I'm definitely going to do the same for my Pagan Rus.


Cool, love to see your Pagan Rus progress.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Vikings/norse gael 21/2
Post by: Breazer on February 22, 2020, 12:35:31 AM
Excellent work on the minis Ogrob and some very creative conversions, good job!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Vikings/norse gael 21/2
Post by: Ogrob on March 03, 2020, 07:58:13 PM
Thank you!

Been gaming a little more Age of Vikings SAGA these last few weeks, and that certainly helps with getting things painted. I promised to demo the game tomorrow, and came to the conclusion that I needed a few more javelin levy painted for Norse Gaels. Got these knocked out over the weekend, fairly quick paintjobs. Usual mix of Victrix, Perry, little bit of Warlord Celt and some Oathmark heads.

(https://i.imgur.com/fyVvnbO.jpg)

Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. More norse 3/3
Post by: Atheling on March 03, 2020, 09:14:17 PM
Great stuff  8) 8) 8)

I love the dark bases  8)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. More norse 3/3
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on March 04, 2020, 10:51:07 AM
Great brushwork and brilliant conversions. Inspirational stuff, so thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. More norse 3/3
Post by: Ogrob on September 02, 2020, 06:51:01 PM
Hey guys, time to bring this topic back from the dead.

It took me ages to get WGAs Irish plastic because a package was lost. Once I contacted them about it they sent me a new one pronto and a couple of weeks ago I started working on them. I've incorporated a bunch of Victrix viking, saxon and gaul parts and even a few Perry zulu arms. The WGA models have a lot of moulded on left arms which limits posing but you can cut them of and grab some spare left arms from Victrix to make new poses.

(https://i.imgur.com/mmLlnuo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7payOrE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IzBuGNO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZEEaJ8Y.jpg)

These will make 24 Javelin armed warriors or levy for SAGA, functional for both Irish and Norse Gael factions.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. WGA Irish kitbashes 2/9
Post by: AKULA on September 02, 2020, 07:24:41 PM
Great to see you back in the groove, love the new additions - there are some particularly angry facial expressions there...especially like the guy second from right in the first photo... is that a WGA head?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. WGA Irish kitbashes 2/9
Post by: Ogrob on September 02, 2020, 07:40:57 PM
Great to see you back in the groove, love the new additions - there are some particularly angry facial expressions there...especially like the guy second from right in the first photo... is that a WGA head?

I think it's a Victrix saxon.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. WGA Irish kitbashes 2/9
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on September 02, 2020, 08:38:35 PM
Great work, yet again!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. WGA Irish kitbashes 2/9
Post by: Captain Blood on September 02, 2020, 10:52:03 PM
None too shabby, especially with the added parts from other manufacturers.

What’s your assessment of the WGA Irish figures?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. WGA Irish kitbashes 2/9
Post by: Ogrob on September 03, 2020, 05:02:15 AM
None too shabby, especially with the added parts from other manufacturers.

What’s your assessment of the WGA Irish figures?

Thank you! I'd say that they are a step above Gripping Beast, with better sculpts and better proportions. Still a good bit behind Victrix however, both in quality and sprue content. Some wonky poses with the integral left arms, and some limited options because bodies can only take bare arms and they are very limited in number. No clever hand swap solutions without cutting things yourself. Biggest issue for me is a lack of slings, there is only one sling per sprue of six bodies.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Curaidh painted 5/10
Post by: Zaheer on November 15, 2020, 11:53:20 AM
My latest LPL entry features a few more Vikings.

(https://i.imgur.com/jVYLmNC.jpg)

And close up:
(https://i.imgur.com/UIhVYRt.jpg)

You can also see another couple of Fogou houses that I've finished recently. Love these, and may need to buy several more.
(https://i.imgur.com/HHPEa4c.jpg)

What do you think?

Finally found your thread, your productivity puts me to shame! Great to see the buildings and minis together :)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. WGA Irish kitbashes 2/9
Post by: Ogrob on February 06, 2021, 01:09:37 PM
Ever had one of those projects that sit half-finished on your desk for ever and ever? Well, this was one of those. These guys have been half painted since a week or so after I posted the kitbashes. And then I just never finished them... until the other day. Nice to have that check of the to do list.

Added a few more conversions that I never photographed in the plastic.

A norse-gael warlord with dane axe:
(https://i.imgur.com/kM6pa5M.jpg)

Three irish warriors with dane axes (kitbashed WA irish with Victrix axes) and a hearthguard with dane axe:
(https://i.imgur.com/Li0rhqb.jpg)

The irishmen with javelins were divided into four groups of six, colour coded in the dark age irish scheme of yellow, grey, black and white. The white is really a tan and the black a dark gray, but I figure that's what natural dyes would look like.
(https://i.imgur.com/fpJySJM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SW5uW10.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/w7d3cio.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WF7gXn8.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Irish painted 6/1
Post by: HappyChappy439 on February 06, 2021, 02:25:01 PM
They look great! The high-contrast colour scheme works really well!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Irish painted 6/1
Post by: Atheling on February 06, 2021, 03:05:08 PM
Lovely work  8)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Irish painted 6/1
Post by: Ogrob on February 06, 2021, 03:30:11 PM
Thank you both! The yellow is a lot more yellow than my first take, but I think I like this take better.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Irish painted 6/1
Post by: Ogrob on April 01, 2021, 02:24:17 PM
One more little update on here. I've bought the Baron's War game from Footsore, and might be making some minis for that (but we probably do 100 year war instead, still like the look of the rules for that). As I was buying the book I took the opportunity to order some more Matt Bickley sculpts, some of the lovely late Saxons he has done for Footsore.

Here are the saxon archer pack and their Hereward the Wake hero miniature.
(https://i.imgur.com/Hdt655u.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/v69u5rq.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Footsore saxon archers, no fool 1/4
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on April 01, 2021, 06:30:37 PM
Looking good mate!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Footsore saxon archers, no fool 1/4
Post by: Captain Blood on April 01, 2021, 07:18:33 PM
They are great sculpts. Nicely done :)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Footsore saxon archers, no fool 1/4
Post by: Atheling on April 01, 2021, 07:48:06 PM
Perfect colour choices for the "period".

Lve your work sir!  :-*
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Footsore saxon archers, no fool 1/4
Post by: Ogrob on April 03, 2021, 11:24:33 AM
Thanks for the kind words fellas!

Finished the last Footsore saxon for now. Also did up another Warlord-base for him for SAGA. You really want big bases for your SAGA warlords, but I also like not having my minis locked into that base size, so I got these 50mm circles with 25mm cutouts from Warbases. Very handy I think.

(https://i.imgur.com/l9coQpW.jpg)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Footsore saxon warlord 3/4
Post by: Atheling on April 03, 2021, 11:28:40 AM
As long as the outer base of the sabot is nicely modelled, like yours I'm all for it.  8)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Footsore saxon warlord 3/4
Post by: MaleGriffin on April 03, 2021, 02:42:03 PM
Brilliant!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Footsore saxon warlord 3/4
Post by: Ogrob on April 03, 2021, 02:54:38 PM
A second update for today, as I also finished these V&V irish command and hearthguard. This is my first experience with V&V, and I am somewhat unimpressed. To begin with it took a solid six weeks and an email reminder for them to even send me any miniatures at all. Secondly, the minis are super fiddly (something I very rarely complain about), as each mini is 6+ pieces of somewhat soft resin. I even ended up having to replace all axe hafts with 1mm plastic rod. Design is very nice, material pretty bad and assembly really annoying. Don't get me started on the 100 year war pack I ordered and how sword, hand and handle are three separate bits.

(https://i.imgur.com/9lmJfNH.jpg)

Here is also a size comparison with a Victrix viking:
(https://i.imgur.com/qKub2mm.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. V&V Irish 3/4
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on April 03, 2021, 04:00:27 PM
Wow! Those Irish look amazing mate! Your work paid off.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. V&V Irish 3/4
Post by: AxolotlQuestions on April 03, 2021, 09:07:46 PM
If you're in the UK, I highly recommend Mezzers Miniatures for V&V stuff. I ordered over the weekend and the package arrived on the Tuesday.
The minis are very fiddly though.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. V&V Irish 3/4
Post by: Ogrob on April 03, 2021, 09:15:47 PM
If you're in the UK, I highly recommend Mezzers Miniatures for V&V stuff. I ordered over the weekend and the package arrived on the Tuesday.
The minis are very fiddly though.

Alas, I am in Sweden. I've found that Stronghold Terrain in Germany have them as well for us EU residents, but to be honest I will probably stick to other manufacturers for the forseable future. If I am to get any more Dark Ages stuff right now, my first priority will be the remaining Matt Bickley-sculpted Saxons from Footsore, and beyond that probably Victrix's Normans.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. V&V Irish 3/4
Post by: HappyChappy439 on April 03, 2021, 09:39:03 PM
Oof, sorry to hear you had such a rough experience there! I've heard the V&V figures are notoriously fragile as well, so good call on replacing the axe hafts. It's a shame really because the sculpts themselves are great

You've definitely made the best of a bad situation though, really nicely done with the painting, the cloth highlights especially are top notch!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. V&V Irish 3/4
Post by: Tonhel on April 04, 2021, 06:17:41 AM
Fantastic paintjob! :-*

I mostly order directly from V&V and it does in take around 4-6 weeks to arrive in Belgium.

I quite like the figures, but they do take time to assemble.

Keep up the fantastic work! I am looking forward to see you paint the other beautiful Footsore Saxons sculpted by Matthew Bickley and in the near future the Victrix Normans!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. V&V Irish 3/4
Post by: mikedemana on April 04, 2021, 09:14:56 PM
Looks good. I like to put a bannerman on the my base with the warlord, along with maybe a musician or favorite dog.

Mike Demana
http://leadlegionaries.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. V&V Irish 3/4
Post by: Koyote on April 05, 2021, 10:02:04 PM
Nice job on the warlord and archers.

The base insert is a good idea, but Warbases' decision to center the smaller base leaves too little room for other interesting bits -such a standard bearer, companion animal, or fallen foe. 


Excellent work on the Irish axemen.

My only complaint about V&V is that the detail is closer to true scale than what you see in many minis.  As a result, it's a bit too fine for my taste.  I prefer details (chainmail links, belts, satchels, pouches, buckles, sheathed knives, etc) that are a bit exaggerated in size.  The larger bits are easier to paint and show up better at a distance.  Overall, I think Victrix does a better job than V&V of balancing realistic looking proportions against the need to paint and display minis.

With that said, I own dozens of V&V minis -most of which are going to find their way into my Pagan Rus warband.

Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. V&V Irish 3/4
Post by: Ogrob on April 05, 2021, 10:26:15 PM
Thanks for the comments everyone!

In regard to banners with warlords, I agree that it looks quite nice but I struggled with transporting these big bases with banner poles sticking out. The lower large base is less visually interesting, but it looks good enough and is so much easier to transport.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. V&V Irish 3/4
Post by: Koyote on April 05, 2021, 11:20:35 PM
Thanks for the comments everyone!

In regard to banners with warlords, I agree that it looks quite nice but I struggled with transporting these big bases with banner poles sticking out. The lower large base is less visually interesting, but it looks good enough and is so much easier to transport.

Use rare earth magnets to hold the bannerman's arm to the torso.  This will allow you remove the banner and arm for separate storage while transporting models.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/5120/cCfZIL.png)

Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. V&V Irish 3/4
Post by: Ogrob on November 10, 2021, 07:47:07 PM
Well, been a while, but I finally got to play a game of SAGA! We played Age of Vikings and just the basic Clash of Warlords from the book. I played Norse Gaels versus my opponents Vikings.

First time trying the Gall Gaedhil mercenaries, and they sure add a good punch to this force. I ended up winning a fairly decisive victory, leaving only my opponents Warlord on the table by the end of turn five.

No game shots I'm afraid, just my army line up. Used a combination of my Irish and Viking models.

(https://i.imgur.com/YW1K1Du.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Got to play a game 10/11
Post by: Koyote on November 10, 2021, 11:03:34 PM
That's a handsome warband.

I had hoped to use Gall Gaedhil with my Irish at Adepticon in March, but it looks like mercs will be disallowed.  :(

I've never used the Norse Gael board.  How is it?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Got to play a game 10/11
Post by: Maniac on November 11, 2021, 02:21:34 AM
Shame your experience with V&V was sub-par.  I have a couple of their figures, and while I did have to add a brass pole for the banner man, the sculps were excellent, and I've often considered future purchases from them.

Resin is a bit hit and miss though.  In general I am not a huge fan, but you can work with it.

That said, your warband is excellent.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Got to play a game 10/11
Post by: Ogrob on November 11, 2021, 06:35:15 AM
That's a handsome warband.

I had hoped to use Gall Gaedhil with my Irish at Adepticon in March, but it looks like mercs will be disallowed.  :(

I've never used the Norse Gael board.  How is it?

It's fairly one sided, with no defensive abilities at all. They do have some neat tricks, like shunting fatigue over to levy, allowing you some solid threat range on your fighting units.

Maniac: The sculpts are great indeed! I was mostly frustrated with the assembly process, but with the benefit of some time, I may consider getting more of their minis as they are very good looking.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Got to play a game 10/11
Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on November 11, 2021, 04:03:52 PM
Glad to see this thread back! Looks like you had a good time. Love that warband.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: Mr. White on January 26, 2022, 08:25:30 PM
Still haven't figured out how to take group photos that don't suck, but what can you do? The army is painted, and I've played one game with them.

(https://i.imgur.com/cPonkGo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IgN77Ic.jpg)

This is _years_ old, but I love the basing style here. It has a very lush, wet look I associate with Dark Ages. What's the forumula?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: Ogrob on January 26, 2022, 08:43:30 PM
This is _years_ old, but I love the basing style here. It has a very lush, wet look I associate with Dark Ages. What's the forumula?

Oof, yeah, it has been a minute since I did anything in that style. I think it is a base of Scale75 Black Forest Green followed by drybrushes of S75 Sherwood Green and either S75 Autumn green or possibly P3 Thrall Flesh. The tufts are either Army Painted or Gamer's Grass, I just used any lush green tufts I had lying around, trying to get some variation of greens.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Got to play a game 10/11
Post by: SotF on January 26, 2022, 08:55:43 PM
I might need to grab one of those oathsworn barbarians...with the shield swap she looks like she'd work well as a character for one of my projects.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: Mr. White on January 26, 2022, 09:47:58 PM
Oof, yeah, it has been a minute since I did anything in that style. I think it is a base of Scale75 Black Forest Green followed by drybrushes of S75 Sherwood Green and either S75 Autumn green or possibly P3 Thrall Flesh. The tufts are either Army Painted or Gamer's Grass, I just used any lush green tufts I had lying around, trying to get some variation of greens.

Thanks for trying to pull this up out of the memory haze. One other question...are the base rings Scale75 Black Forest Green or are they simply black? It's hard for me to tell.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA irish - massive plastic kitbashing
Post by: Ogrob on January 26, 2022, 10:21:07 PM
Thanks for trying to pull this up out of the memory haze. One other question...are the base rings Scale75 Black Forest Green or are they simply black? It's hard for me to tell.

Just plain black there. I usually do my edges black, unless the minis are going in a movement tray.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Got to play a game 10/11
Post by: Ogrob on March 04, 2022, 01:45:49 PM
Just a small update to this thread. Earlier this winter I forgot how much I disliked assembling V&V miniatures and ordered a few more sets through Stronghold Terrain.

I've gotten around to painting up two sets of Irish Slingers. Sculpts are nice as usual with V&V, but the I found the faces a bit plain. Paintjobs are fairly quick and dirty, but should do just fine on the table.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ggi853v.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Got to play a game 10/11
Post by: Little Odo on March 04, 2022, 04:03:50 PM
They look mighty fine to me.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Irish slingers 3/3
Post by: Ogrob on June 19, 2022, 02:27:17 PM
Small update here as well today. Hoping to do some more Viking age stuff alongside my Rohan project this summer, including fleshing out some of the mercenary options from Saga Age of vikings. To that end I have put together this small unit of Shieldmaidens. Models are Stronghold terrain with a Hasslefree leader.

(https://i.imgur.com/wpJlaGL.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. WIP Shieldmaidens 19/6
Post by: DavidJ on June 27, 2022, 07:22:15 AM
I have those miniatures but they are cast in resin by Brother Vinni.

http://www.brother-vinni.com/shop.htm#!/Spear-Ladies/p/116507099/category=14147797

Are they licensed copies?

Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. WIP Shieldmaidens 19/6
Post by: Ogrob on June 30, 2022, 08:04:24 PM
@DavidJ, no idea but I imagine so.

Heres how they turned out anyway. Not my best photography, might try to get a better shot at some point.

(https://i.imgur.com/Fi4myKe.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Shieldmaidens 30/6
Post by: MaleGriffin on July 02, 2022, 03:25:39 AM
Gorgeous! I love the color choices!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Shieldmaidens 30/6
Post by: DavidJ on July 04, 2022, 03:39:58 AM
I have around 30 Brother Vinni's miniatures (I doubled up on one order) and some more in the post.  They are very well sculpted and, being resin, are quite easy to convert or improve with Victrix leftovers.

Mine don't look quite as good as yours ... but I'm happy with them  :)

As MaleGriffin said, your colour choices are great.

The Hasslefree figure turned out very well, that's one I don't have!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Shieldmaidens 30/6
Post by: Ogrob on September 22, 2022, 08:58:57 PM
Well, it's been a few months so time to revive this thread I guess.

I at some point recently grabbed the last pack of V&V irish slingers, some nice old geezers to complement the young lads above. While painting these I also went ahead and painted the four slingers I got as part of Footsore's Welsh kickstarter. I will use these as Irish and stick to archers in my future Welsh forces.

Getting close to the point where I have replaced all the original Irish kitbashes in this thread with models that did not exist when that project began. Just need to make some WGA/Victrix slinger kitbashes.

(https://i.imgur.com/O1Klgns.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Irish slingers 22/9
Post by: Pattus Magnus on September 22, 2022, 09:42:43 PM
Those look great! I like the sense of motion in a lot of the sculpts, not a lot of figures really capture that effectively.

Just curious, are the models fairly durable? Some of the parts look delicate and I would be terrified of breaking them!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Irish slingers 22/9
Post by: Ogrob on September 23, 2022, 09:26:51 AM
Probably a bit fragile. The V&V resin has some flex so it is more  durable than it looks but parts are thin. The Footsore minis are metal, mostly I'm concerned about the released sling which may bend.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Irish slingers 22/9
Post by: Ogrob on October 30, 2022, 09:19:57 PM
Right, going to be quite a few pictures on here, so let us get on with it. Managed to finish a chunk of models in the last few days, which gets a couple of projects to the stage where I can show a load of photos.

First, I finished this load of slingers, four Footsore welsh and four kitbashed WGA/victrix plastics. Painted as Irish to join my SAGA irish force.
(https://i.imgur.com/qmQJAYH.jpg)

This means I have 24 slingers, composed of V&V resins, Footsore metals and a few plastic kitbashes:
(https://i.imgur.com/WRr5lgs.jpg)

And those 24 levy slingers finish a project I never really set out on, which is to completely redo the irish army that started this entire thread. When I began making my irish force four years ago, there were few decent irish minis on the market and I wanted to do a plastic kitbash. Since then, we have been treated to Victrix entire dark age range (excellent source for kitbashing), WGAs decent plastic irish, V&Vs irish range and Footsore's welsh range sculpted by Matt Bickley.

As a result, my irish force now looks like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/tgJXU69.jpg)

Rather than like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/4TNjrAE.jpg)

It seems every single mini except the original Warlord has been replaced. So I decided to raffle off the original army to my gaming club. I am keeping the original Warlord though, so as you can see in the "old" photo, there is a simple WGA plastic Irish warlord. I painted this guy up with the purpose of raffling off an all plastic army.

Secondly, I've also managed to get started on a Welsh SAGA force using Footsore miniatures. The core is the kickstarter from earlier this year, but I am supplementing with some more Matt Bickley sculpts. Rather than source Welsh minis that do not share a sculpting style, I am aiming to make this a 100% Bickley force, by supplementing with his Saxons as well as some Antedilivian Islemen. I figure there will be overlap in styles along the eastern border.

Here's what I have so far:
(https://i.imgur.com/sjvgGmH.jpg)

Warlord:
(https://i.imgur.com/CtOTRBp.jpg)

Hearthguard:
(https://i.imgur.com/fyiHUqc.jpg)

Warriors:
(https://i.imgur.com/UCuwcx5.jpg)

Warriors with heavy weapons:
(https://i.imgur.com/1GbYa22.jpg)

Levy with bows:
(https://i.imgur.com/gK2LoCW.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Big update on SAGA irish and welsh 30/10
Post by: HappyChappy439 on October 30, 2022, 11:49:09 PM
Really impressive forces here!

The bright blue accents on the Welsh colour scheme are a really nice touch as well!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Big update on SAGA irish and welsh 30/10
Post by: Ogrob on October 31, 2022, 01:38:04 PM
Really impressive forces here!

The bright blue accents on the Welsh colour scheme are a really nice touch as well!

Thank mate! I felt like the rich elite fellows needed a bit of pop.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Big update on SAGA irish and welsh 30/10
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on October 31, 2022, 03:15:11 PM
Brilliant work! 👏🏻
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Big update on SAGA irish and welsh 30/10
Post by: Pattus Magnus on October 31, 2022, 04:44:12 PM
Agree with the others, that’s a very nice looking force. Lots of subtle details in the mix, too!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Big update on SAGA irish and welsh 30/10
Post by: Codsticker on November 01, 2022, 03:54:04 PM
Fantastic to see your Footsore Welsh; I haven't seen many painted up outside of Footsore's shop. I have the knife men and archers primed and in the queue so I find your work motivating.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Big update on SAGA irish and welsh 30/10
Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on November 03, 2022, 03:03:27 PM
Very generous of you to raffle off an old army mate - you may have given me an idea for some of my stuff in fact.

Loving the new additions; oddly I've never played against Irish! Hope to remedy that some time.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Big update on SAGA irish and welsh 30/10
Post by: Ogrob on November 03, 2022, 03:59:55 PM
Very generous of you to raffle off an old army mate - you may have given me an idea for some of my stuff in fact.

Loving the new additions; oddly I've never played against Irish! Hope to remedy that some time.

It is a fun way to make space on the shelves. I fear my club mates may think I'm a little bit insane as beside the irish I raffled off 6 pts of Epirotes (hated playing the faction, never finished painting) and my old Lannisters which is roughly another 6-8 pts in SAGA terms. The thing is that indie games like these are almost impossible to sell in Sweden, beyond possibly these few club mates, and for spare change if so.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Big update on SAGA irish and welsh 30/10
Post by: Ogrob on November 19, 2022, 09:42:51 PM
Couple more Welsh units done, getting closer to a playable force now. I will initially play these as Cymry Welsh from Age of Invasions, even though the sculpts are more 10th-11th century. The simple reason for this is that cymry get foot hearthguard without javelins, which I had nice miniatures for from the kickstarter. I will eventually paint up some mounted and javelin-equiped hearthguard and run the Age of Viking standard list as well.

So, five hearthguard. Four are really Saxons, but i figure cultural overlap. I prefer to have matching Matt Bickley sculpts over being a stickler for trouser length. The last is a bonus mini from the kickstarter. The previous set having one lad with a dane axe has bothered me a bit, so this gives me eight hand weapon and shield lads.

(https://i.imgur.com/lNzr43S.jpg)

And then my first javelins for what is a javelin focused faction in SAGA, eight warriors. These are a mix of the different Footsore packs with javelins and spears. I've done plastic javelins and shields on most of them as I prefer that to metals. They need at least eight more stick throwing friends, maybe more.

(https://i.imgur.com/TifGzqx.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Some more Bickley Welsh 19/11
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on November 20, 2022, 05:35:11 AM
Looking good! 👍
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Some more Bickley Welsh 19/11
Post by: fred on November 20, 2022, 07:32:23 AM
These are some very nice figures, with great paint jobs, but then that is what we have come to expect!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Some more Bickley Welsh 19/11
Post by: Captain Blood on November 20, 2022, 11:26:46 AM
Very dynamic. It's a great collection  8)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Some more Bickley Welsh 19/11
Post by: rumacara on November 20, 2022, 11:39:11 AM
Nice looking force. :-* :-*
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Some more Bickley Welsh 19/11
Post by: Bloggard on November 21, 2022, 10:51:04 AM
Excellent.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Some more Bickley Welsh 19/11
Post by: MaleGriffin on November 23, 2022, 03:12:28 AM
Fantastic figures! Some of the most life like I've ever seen!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Some more Bickley Welsh 19/11
Post by: Ogrob on December 05, 2022, 08:32:22 PM
And some more... The sculpts on these are great, but the casts are not as good as I would like. Not a candle to Claymore for example. Bit dissapointing really, and makes them a bit less fun to work on.

Still, eight more warriors done, I now have something of a playable force. Next up, and last for this, eight mounted hearthguard and a mounted warlord.

(https://i.imgur.com/MaXdZRm.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Some more Bickley Welsh 5/12
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on December 06, 2022, 02:02:01 AM
Looking good mate!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Some more Bickley Welsh 5/12
Post by: Pattus Magnus on December 06, 2022, 03:16:37 AM
They look quite good - nicely dynamic sculpting and I like your paint jobs!
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Some more Bickley Welsh 5/12
Post by: .:Gunslinger:. on December 06, 2022, 10:41:32 AM
Looking brilliant! I love Matt Bickleys dynamic way of sculpting miniatures, and they work a charm with a nic epaintjob like this.

I agree on the casting quality though. I think it was a bit of a rush to cast everything for Kickstarter backers (I am one of them)...but there a lot of flash and unfortunately a good bit of fudged up faces (especially those wearing helmets). Its odd, because normaly I find Footsore castings to be quite good (even though Antediluvian, doing some Matt Bickley medievals too, is a whole lot better)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Some more Bickley Welsh 5/12
Post by: Ogrob on December 31, 2022, 01:22:50 PM
And done! Managed to finish the last of the Viking Age welsh with hours to spare in 2022. I have already complained a bit about casting quality of this range of miniatures, so I will just quickly point out that horses have been swapped for plastic horses from Victrix gaul cavalry set. Fortunately I had used up the riders from this kit elsewhere and left the horses. Some carving and sanding and riders were able to fit on the plastic horses. Javelins and shields and also plastic, from Wargames Altantic's Irish sprues. I couldn't resist giving the Warlord the spiffy commander shield from there, probably incredibly historically incorrect.

(https://i.imgur.com/OdcWfEM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/arbvMv8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LAWGTfb.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Mounted welsh hearthguard and warlord 31/12
Post by: Pattus Magnus on December 31, 2022, 04:47:54 PM
They look great! The figures are nicely dynamic and your painting looks excellent.
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Mounted welsh hearthguard and warlord 31/12
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on December 31, 2022, 08:55:24 PM
Bendigedig! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Mounted welsh hearthguard and warlord 31/12
Post by: levied troop on January 01, 2023, 08:04:48 AM
There’s luvverly  :)
Title: Re: Ogrob's SAGA and Dark Age stuff. Mounted welsh hearthguard and warlord 31/12
Post by: Ogrob on January 03, 2023, 12:19:57 PM
Well, new year and new project. I was very much inspired by Koyote's and Knight-captain Tyr's excellent Pagan Rus projects last year and had an eye toward something similar. When I started my Rohan project I knew I would have a lot of victrix foot troops left over and so this project is a step towards using some of them.

I've also been playing a lot of Mount & Blade II Bannerlord this last year (as mentioned in my fantasy thread) and one of my two prefered factions to play is Sturgia, very much a Rus-inspired culture.

So with that in mind I decided to get started. It seems the Pagan Rus in SAGA is a relatively elite force, prefering hearthguard and warriors over levy, so this might be quite quick.

These last few days I have managed to kitbash a warlord and four hearthguard, using a variety of Victrix and even Wargames Atlantic parts. I see a lot of Rus figures have mustaches rather than beards so I even used an anglo saxon body amoing the vikings. Also a dacian body and some cloaks. What do you think, does it work?

(https://i.imgur.com/0QbPhdk.jpg)

Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. First Pagan Rus kitbashes 3/1
Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on January 04, 2023, 02:06:27 PM
The green stuff work is seriously impressive. That Cossack hairdo on the warlord is top tier.
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. First Pagan Rus kitbashes 3/1
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on January 04, 2023, 03:05:16 PM
The green stuff work is seriously impressive. That Cossack hairdo on the warlord is top tier.

I agree! 👍
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. First Pagan Rus kitbashes 3/1
Post by: Axtklinge on January 04, 2023, 09:22:37 PM
Brilliant job!
Looking forawrd to see the rest of the warband together!
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. First Pagan Rus kitbashes 3/1
Post by: Ogrob on January 04, 2023, 09:38:47 PM
Thank you! Started a little painting today, another eight hearthguard will be recycled from a retired Black Duns unit (one of the projects in my fantasy log), so no conversion pictures there. Once the hearthguard are done I need to built 24 warriors and then I am planning a multi-purpose mercenary unit. I have been meaning to make a unit of javelin armed woodsmen for my Rohan (again, in the fantasy thread) representing Mirkwood woodsmen, but they should also work as some baltic scouts.
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. First Pagan Rus kitbashes 3/1
Post by: Ogrob on January 22, 2023, 09:16:04 PM
Right, here we are. Took a couple of weeks but I managed to paint the hearthguard, including their repurposed friends who have previously been Oathmark humans. I've taken some inspiration form V&V minatures' design on their Pagan Rus when converting these, going for some helmet spikes and some feathers. Then I have just gone for some wintery themes with a bit of fur around helmets and shoulders, probably very fantastical but another visual cue that they are not vanilla vikings. The colour scheme is inspired by the Sturgian faction in Mount & Blade: Bannerlord. Warriors will be more gray and less blue.

(https://i.imgur.com/2f5pFPV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qx9xrxg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JIVtSTI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/28W6Q6V.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/L9oHlJR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qPtYDoD.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Pagan Rus hearthguard 22/1
Post by: commissarmoody on January 23, 2023, 01:19:35 AM
They look pretty hard to me.
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Pagan Rus hearthguard 22/1
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on January 23, 2023, 12:59:27 PM
Great work! 👍
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Pagan Rus hearthguard 22/1
Post by: Ogrob on January 29, 2023, 06:24:25 PM
With the twelve hearthguard built I started on 3 points worth of warriors. There was only a single old Black Duns figure that I wanted to recycle for this project, so I had to build 23 new ones. I've used a majority Dacian bodies, even two of the Bastarnae barechested bodies, plus a few Vikings and a couple of bodies from the Dark Age archer kit, especially the slinger bodies that I had spare anyway. You can make some nice dynamic poses with those.

Because I am using snow on the bases I want the minis to reflect some colder temperatures. I tried to do some scarves as a homage to the Sturgian soldiers and spearmen, but didn't like how they came out, so I've gone with mostly cloaks and some fur. Minis with hats have fur rims added on. In the Osprey volume on russian middle ages there are some pictures of Rus in long open coats, so I sculpted a pair of those as well, but they are a lot of work, so only a few.

I've gone for more old short swords, axes and seaxes as I don't want them to look too professional. For shields, I am thinking a mix of square shields (borrowed from my Oathmark humans) and rounds. Ideally I could split my big warrior units into a round shield unit and a square shield unit on the table.

(https://i.imgur.com/myvLOe3.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Pagan Rus warrior kitbashes 29/1
Post by: Ogrob on February 05, 2023, 10:40:24 AM
And while I slowly paint the warriors I kitbashed the last component of this force, eight mercenary troops with Javelins. When working for the Pagan Rus they represent baltic woodsmen paid to scout for the main force. In SAGA terms that means they are Guide mercenaries, with javelins.

I've used bodies from Victrix Dark Age archers and Vikings, and heads from those kits plus the Dacians. I went for beards, long hair and if possible bandanas to give them some distinction from my other hairy fellows. For arms and weapons I've used Fireforge's Almughavar kit, with those lovely chopping knives, and supplemented with some javelins and shields from Victrix norman cav and WGA's Irish kit. A real frankenstien to be sure.

(https://i.imgur.com/DywlFhC.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Kitbashing some baltic scouts 5/2
Post by: tancrede on February 06, 2023, 08:07:34 AM
Real frankenstein minis, for sure.
But really good job too !  :-*
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Kitbashing some baltic scouts 5/2
Post by: rumacara on February 06, 2023, 06:14:14 PM
Very nice kitbashing.
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Kitbashing some baltic scouts 5/2
Post by: Ogrob on February 19, 2023, 09:06:02 PM
Got the Warriors completed. Leaning more towards the quick and dirty, but it will do for gaming. Ended up going with a mix of square oathmark shields and round shield from Victrix. This way I can differentiate units on the table.

(https://i.imgur.com/wK4S3ym.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Yn8JyNB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/d8EZTZV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/v6zPdDZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sICTGKR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CW2PfL8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QYc9Z9P.jpg)

And a fairly bad photo of the whole force. Waiting on a sabot base for the warlord, affected by the royal mail mishap unfortunately.
(https://i.imgur.com/wvju7bs.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Rus warriors painted 19/2
Post by: Tonhel on February 20, 2023, 06:07:17 AM
Very cool!

The conversions worked great!
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Rus warriors painted 19/2
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on February 21, 2023, 08:00:53 AM
Looking good mate! 👍
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Rus warriors painted 19/2
Post by: Ogrob on May 18, 2023, 08:55:58 PM
And with my Rhudaur hillmen finished, it is apparently time to embark on SAGA project #3 this year. Could not resist the Victrix late romans, and while I was drawn to the british for modelling reasons, their gameplay in SAGA seemed poor at best, so I went with me second favorite option, the germanic people. Going to be using these as both visigoths and saxons in SAGA.

Here's what I assembled for my first batch to be painted:
(https://i.imgur.com/jCvYzAi.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Migration era germanic people 18/5
Post by: Ogrob on June 05, 2023, 06:19:48 PM
...and I changed my mind. Inspiration and desire to paint are key to my productivity, I am not a planner. Was not feeling the germanics, so I went back and stripped of some greenstuff, plied off some heads and rebuilt the figures as Romano-British. The Briton force is considered somewhat underpowered in SAGA, but on the other hand, due for a buff when the next FAQ comes out.

So six foot hearthguard from the armoured kit:
(https://i.imgur.com/akoAheO.jpg)

And 11 warriors, from both the regular unarmoured sprue and the command sprue in that kit:
(https://i.imgur.com/g1MS5eS.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Victrix late romans as britons 5/6
Post by: Pattus Magnus on June 06, 2023, 07:11:02 PM
The figures look great to me! I’m looking forward to seeing the painted versions when you complete them- your colour choices always suit the figures well.
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Victrix late romans as britons 5/6
Post by: Codsticker on June 07, 2023, 04:06:05 AM
Nice work so far- I look forward to seeing them painted. I might have to get a couple of those kits: some as Britons and some as Germanic types.
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Victrix late romans as britons 5/6
Post by: Ogrob on July 06, 2023, 09:52:08 PM
Spent the day building more Romano-British. The Victrix kits continue to be absolutely lovely. For the army, I am envisioning a british warlord returned to Britannia after serving in the roman army. He brings with him some veterans, some mercenaries and a desire to carve out a kingdom of his own. His clan makes up the bulk of the force. Conveniently this gives me an exuse for both some more Roman and some more germanic features in my army.

So warlord with a banner bearer plus companions. The warlord and banner will go on a sabot base once painted. Mostly from the armoured late roman command sprue, though the warlord head is from the unarmoured roman command sprue instead. I just loved that boar crest plus plume.
(https://i.imgur.com/0tYL3l8.jpg)

12 briton warriors, pretty much straight from the unarmoured roman sprue and command sprue. Two future unit leaders got the two facemask helms from the armoured command sprue.
(https://i.imgur.com/6TdWJlF.jpg)

And finally, a unit of roman deserters. This is a mercenary option in Age of Invasions, and they are essentially regular infantry that due to their mixed equipment can make a ranged attack per turn. I decided to model two bows, a pilum and two darts in the unit to represent this.
(https://i.imgur.com/U32COyu.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. More victrix late romans as Britons 6/7
Post by: Ogrob on July 14, 2023, 09:33:56 PM
Couple more builds for the Britons. Painting is under way and should have something to show soon.

First, another four hearthguard as I had the figures, may as well build them. Small conversions with getting the rolled up cloaks (what are these called in english?) onto some figures that normally do not have them.
(https://i.imgur.com/iEmFsOj.jpg)

And then a bishop, a mercenary hero in Age of Invasions. My quick research indicated that clerical vestments were in their infancy in the 5th century, and that clergy were known to break the ban on fighting in battles for various reasons. The hero stats in SAGA indicate an armoured figure as well, so I decided on a more noble appearance and then just a staff with crucifix to indicate his religious authority. Cleary he figures family and power are important enough to break some rules and heads over.
(https://i.imgur.com/kwL7cqL.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. More victrix late romans as Britons 14/7
Post by: Pattus Magnus on July 15, 2023, 02:15:45 AM
The figures in the last few posts all look quite good, they definitely should make a great post-Roman British force. I’m looking forward to seeing the units as they are painted!
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. More victrix late romans as Britons 14/7
Post by: Ogrob on July 15, 2023, 12:25:56 PM
First set of warriors painted and based. Waiting on transfers to do the shields.

I decided on a limited palette for this force, with red as the focal colour. Inspired a bit by the masai, another people known for their plaid game.
Basing is rugged fields by geek gaming, and then a mix of green tufts.

(https://i.imgur.com/0NXCOdd.jpg)

What do you think?

Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. First romano-british painted 15/7
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on July 15, 2023, 01:01:19 PM
Sweet. Ambrosius would approve!
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. First romano-british painted 15/7
Post by: Ogrob on July 16, 2023, 09:39:04 AM
And some mercenaries got completed as well. Had some LBMS transfers left from when this was going to be a germanic project, and couldn't let them go entirely to waste.

(https://i.imgur.com/PStSklN.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Germanic mercenaries 16/7
Post by: LouieN on July 16, 2023, 07:33:54 PM
Good work.  TY
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Germanic mercenaries 16/7
Post by: Aethelflaeda was framed on July 16, 2023, 07:44:54 PM
Vortigern would approve!
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Germanic mercenaries 16/7
Post by: Ogrob on July 25, 2023, 09:55:31 PM
Plugging away at this little Arthurian project. First up, finished the second mercenary unit, a squad of Roman deserters. In SAGA terms, these are plain warriors with sword and shield, but have a special rule to reflect varied equipment, allowing them a once per turn ranged attack activation. I decided to model this by having a variety of weapons in the unit, but still making sure each figure had a large shield (their second distinct rule).

(https://i.imgur.com/e7IDAdT.jpg)

And then assembled/kitbashed 12 levy with sling. Staff slings to be specific as I liked the idea, though some of them were a pain to assemble. Four connection points is at least two too many to deal with. Had to rummage thorugh the bit box for some heads as well to get variation, so we have a bit of gallic, anglo saxon and irish representation in this romano-british unit.

(https://i.imgur.com/Z6o1h3z.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Roman mercenaries 25/7
Post by: peachey_c on July 26, 2023, 12:30:44 AM
These are nice, and I like the blue on the Rus.  8)
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Roman mercenaries 25/7
Post by: Pattus Magnus on July 26, 2023, 03:06:34 AM
Awesome job on the mercenaries, they look suitably businesslike!
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Roman mercenaries 25/7
Post by: Tonhel on July 26, 2023, 07:01:54 AM
Fantastic work! :-*
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Roman mercenaries 25/7
Post by: Ogrob on July 28, 2023, 01:36:26 PM
Bit more work done on the britons. These are the same warriors shown previously, but now with shields as I received as shipment of Victrix transfers today. Looking forward to making some serious progress on this project now.

(https://i.imgur.com/foeILTP.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Romano-british warriors 28/7
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on July 28, 2023, 02:13:50 PM
Looking good mate!
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Romano-british warriors 28/7
Post by: Ogrob on July 29, 2023, 08:32:05 AM
Had a productive day yesterday, finishing the paintjobs on the other 12 briton warriors and built a few figures as well. That means I am done with painting warriors for this force, most of what is left is now hearthguard and heroes, which should be fun. Speaking of hearthguard I also received the final kit I needed, Victrix late roman cavalry, and build six mounted hearthguard. Gave them all face mask helments as the kit had enough of these for the unit, and did a little bit of greenstuff work to sort of cloaks.

(https://i.imgur.com/M6nc5DH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jhwNBEw.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Romano-british warriors 28/7
Post by: Codsticker on July 30, 2023, 10:28:41 PM
Really nice work! I love the Victrix Late Roman range- some wonderful kits.
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Romano-british warriors 28/7
Post by: Ogrob on July 31, 2023, 08:32:02 PM
Thank you! Such a nice range indeed, the armoured infantry are the highlight for me but all of it is really nice.

Finished the levy today, starting to incorporate a few more speed paints into my routine which really helps. Tunics here are speedpaint and then two quick layers of drybrush for example.

(https://i.imgur.com/27IEAgs.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. British slingers 31/8
Post by: Ogrob on August 07, 2023, 11:13:41 AM
And the foot hearthguard are completed as well. Victrix armoured late romans is a fantastic kit for sure, so it was fun to paint these even though they probably will be sidelined for cavalry most of the time.

(https://i.imgur.com/ENIP39z.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Romano-british hearthguard 7/8
Post by: Ogrob on August 11, 2023, 09:46:14 PM
And foot command done. Warlord, his two companions which is a unique feature for the Britons in SAGA, and a banner. Warlord and banner will go on a sabot base in the future. The companions did not initially have any cloaks as there are none for these bodies on the sprue, but halfway through painting I felt that they were not cohesive enough with the force, so I sculpted some. Fortunately nothing got messed up and I am quite pleased with how they turned out.

(https://i.imgur.com/6lxT6rn.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. King of the Britons 11/8
Post by: peachey_c on August 11, 2023, 10:34:52 PM
They look great, and I am tempted to buy some.  :)
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. King of the Britons 11/8
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on August 12, 2023, 02:51:40 AM
Brilliant work mate! Good call on the companion cloaks.
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. King of the Britons 11/8
Post by: Captain Blood on August 12, 2023, 09:45:17 AM
Excellent. If only I didn’t already have a massive collection of Footsore figures for this setting  ::)
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. King of the Britons 11/8
Post by: Ogrob on August 12, 2023, 01:03:39 PM
Excellent. If only I didn’t already have a massive collection of Footsore figures for this setting  ::)

But these are plastics, you can kitbash them ;)

Took a moment to plonk the army down on my Rohan display board to see how they look together. The mercenaries certainly add some colour.

(https://i.imgur.com/OYC3kb9.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. King of the Britons 11/8
Post by: Ray Rivers on August 12, 2023, 02:17:58 PM
Some outstanding painting on this thread!  :-*

Lots of nice detailing and basing. A superb collection!
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. King of the Britons 11/8
Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on August 12, 2023, 08:17:35 PM
But these are plastics, you can kitbash them ;)

Took a moment to plonk the army down on my Rohan display board to see how they look together. The mercenaries certainly add some colour.

(https://i.imgur.com/OYC3kb9.jpg)

That display board really is a thing of beauty. As for the army, one of your best projects yet. Great work mate.
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. King of the Britons 11/8
Post by: Ogrob on August 13, 2023, 10:38:06 AM
Some outstanding painting on this thread!  :-*

Lots of nice detailing and basing. A superb collection!

Thank you! You can see some evolution of my basing in this thread, from the painted sand and tufts to the premixed flock mixes from Geek Gaming Scenics. Really recommend these as they are very easy to get looking good, and it's quite fun to select different mixes for your projects.

That display board really is a thing of beauty. As for the army, one of your best projects yet. Great work mate.

Thank you! That one you did with the little frozen jetty was a big inspiration.
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. King of the Britons 11/8
Post by: Ogrob on August 13, 2023, 08:29:39 PM
And the hearthguard cavalry are done. These painted up much quicker than I expected, with a lot of detail on the horses and tack. Quite pleased with these, and I think I might be getting closer to figuring out my new light setup for photography.

(https://i.imgur.com/R2vmLAn.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Arthurian knights 13/8
Post by: Maniac on August 13, 2023, 11:46:29 PM
Those look lovely.
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Arthurian knights 13/8
Post by: Captain Harlock on August 14, 2023, 12:44:58 PM
Really good stuff!
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Arthurian knights 13/8
Post by: Tonhel on August 14, 2023, 05:38:12 PM
I love it! Such a cool project with fantastic painting! :-*
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Arthurian knights 13/8
Post by: Knight-Captain Tyr on August 16, 2023, 11:37:02 AM
I can't believe the speed with which this force came together. What is this, like 6pts in a month or something?

Now to get you to London for Battle Brothers  lol
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Arthurian knights 13/8
Post by: Ogrob on August 16, 2023, 11:57:43 AM
I can't believe the speed with which this force came together. What is this, like 6pts in a month or something?

Now to get you to London for Battle Brothers  lol

Haha, yeah, I started painting just over a month ago. So far, we're are 10.5 pts painted, but half of that is hearthguard.
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Arthurian knights 13/8
Post by: Captain Blood on August 17, 2023, 10:02:55 AM
Superb  :-*
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Arthurian knights 13/8
Post by: Bloggard on August 18, 2023, 08:54:06 AM
really lovely results.
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Arthurian knights 13/8
Post by: Ogrob on August 20, 2023, 12:18:22 PM
And here is a mounted version of the Warlord and his companions. Seems I didn't post pictures of the builds for these, but the warlord has the upper body cut from the Unarmoured Command Sprue, while the companions just have heads from the command sprues. The companions use one part of the two-part cloaks on the cavalry sprue, but I used greenstuff for the lower part as I didn't like how the bit fit.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZqeqFAq.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. King of the Britons again 20/8
Post by: Ogrob on October 07, 2023, 08:48:09 PM
And a little surprise update for my Irish. I bought this Gripping Beast figure, he's intended as Ulf the Quarellsome, on a whim. The sculpt is lovely, but the casting was pretty bad. Things did not fit together and the weapons were awful so I swapped them for some Victrix plastics by just cutting off the original hands and gluing some hands from the Norman cavalry set in place.


Will just use as a regular Warlord for my Irish as I am not huge on the terribly unbalanced legendaries in SAGA.

(https://i.imgur.com/LYIevk5.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Irish warlord runs to the fray 7/10
Post by: MaleGriffin on October 09, 2023, 05:25:18 PM
Lovely brushwork! Masterful basing!
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Irish warlord runs to the fray 7/10
Post by: Dean on October 09, 2023, 06:51:29 PM
Great stuff here, inspirational!
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Irish warlord runs to the fray 7/10
Post by: Ogrob on October 10, 2023, 10:50:29 AM
As I was looking through the Age of Invasions book again the other day, I once again happened to read the Scotti old friends, new enemies. This is a variant of the Age of Vikings Irish faction, using the irish battleboard but with some different equipment options. Notably the Warlord can go on a chariot, and warlord and curaidh can me mounted with javelins.

I also realised that I happened to have exactly three Victrix late roman cavalry left from the Britons, and that I had a chariot lying around, so mini project started. So far I've built the mounted variants:

(https://i.imgur.com/OMVX0a3.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Scotti mini project 10/10
Post by: Ogrob on October 14, 2023, 06:10:28 PM
Was able to get the scotti warlord and curaidh ready for a little game day at the club today. Very much enjoyed playing the Scotti variant in SAGA, as the mobility of the warlord and curaidh give so many more opportunities for the warband. I also was able to run my favourite mercenaries, the Roman Deserters, and they are super solid with the Irish battleboard. So fun all in all, at least for me. My opponents were not quite as impressed....

(https://i.imgur.com/T5VZxjE.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. King of the Britons 11/8
Post by: Koyote on October 14, 2023, 08:25:09 PM
But these are plastics, you can kitbash them ;)

Took a moment to plonk the army down on my Rohan display board to see how they look together. The mercenaries certainly add some colour.

(https://i.imgur.com/OYC3kb9.jpg)
Overall, a handsome warband.

I am particularly fond of the cav and their striped cloaks. 

Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. King of the Britons 11/8
Post by: Ogrob on October 15, 2023, 03:08:03 PM
Overall, a handsome warband.

I am particularly fond of the cav and their striped cloaks.

Thank you! The cavalry is probably my favourite part of the warband as well.
Title: Re: Ogrob's early medievals for SAGA. Scotti heroes ride out 14/10
Post by: Ogrob on November 07, 2023, 07:31:27 PM
...and starting anther project, for the upcoming SAGA Age of Chivalry (100 year war and related conflicts). Going to paint these quite generic so they can play several of the factions.

Figures are a mix of Claymore Castings and Perry.

(https://i.imgur.com/H6O50Pl.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Preparing for 100 year war.
Post by: Pattus Magnus on November 07, 2023, 10:33:03 PM
Very cool! I am looking forward to seeing this project as it moves forward, I expect your figures will be quite good!
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Preparing for 100 year war.
Post by: Basementboy on November 08, 2023, 06:05:32 PM
What manufacturer are the painted knights in the middle? They look great! And I’m looking forward to seeing the whole lot completed :D
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Preparing for 100 year war.
Post by: Ogrob on November 08, 2023, 06:55:17 PM
What manufacturer are the painted knights in the middle? They look great! And I’m looking forward to seeing the whole lot completed :D

Thank you. They are Claymore Castings french knights, except second from the right who is a 3d print, Portugese Knight by Reconquer Designs.
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Preparing for 100 year war.
Post by: Basementboy on November 09, 2023, 08:41:42 AM
Thank you. They are Claymore Castings french knights, except second from the right who is a 3d print, Portugese Knight by Reconquer Designs.
Thanks so much! :D
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Preparing for 100 year war.
Post by: Ogrob on November 11, 2023, 12:52:32 PM
Took a moment this morning to build a few more pavisiers, as my Claymore figures wouldn't exactly make a full point for SAGA. Somehow I got my units mixed up an made four when I needed two, so after lunch I came back and built yet another two, to get me to 20 pavisier warriors, or 2.5 pts in SAGA terms.

(https://i.imgur.com/q8ApLrY.jpg)

Initial four with the Claymore figures. As you can see they match quite well in size and style, and even though Claymore is meant to be Crecy and Perry Agincourt, they blend well enough.

(https://i.imgur.com/KUzVj5n.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Pavises and math is hard 11/11
Post by: Ogrob on November 12, 2023, 05:10:42 PM
And got the first unit painted. I had several knights already in progress from an old partially abandoned project, four partially and one fully painted Claymore french knights, plus a started John the Blind figure (with the generic helmet to make my own noble rather than John himself). I added their Count Alencon and a 3D printed Portugese Knight by Reconquer Designs that I had assembled but not started. These took me a little while as I am not the biggest fan of painting such bright colours.

The idea is that they are generic enough to serve as a number of factins, such as Gascones in english service, French, Navarrese or castillian on either side.

(https://i.imgur.com/Xkdorcn.jpg)

I will probably go back and add some dirt to the barding, and lavender tufts on the bases.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Pavises and math is hard 11/11
Post by: Atheling on November 12, 2023, 06:08:49 PM
And got the first unit painted. I had several knights already in progress from an old partially abandoned project, four partially and one fully painted Claymore french knights, plus a started John the Blind figure (with the generic helmet to make my own noble rather than John himself). I added their Count Alencon and a 3D printed Portugese Knight by Reconquer Designs that I had assembled but not started. These took me a little while as I am not the biggest fan of painting such bright colours.

The idea is that they are generic enough to serve as a number of factins, such as Gascones in english service, French, Navarrese or castillian on either side.

(https://i.imgur.com/Xkdorcn.jpg)

I will probably go back and add some dirt to the barding, and lavender tufts on the bases.

What do you think?

They look great mate- I don't know whether to mention this or not but in Heraldry you cannot pout a "colour" on a "colour", nor a "metal" on a "metal". One can put a "metal" on a "colour" and vice versa .

Colours:
Red = Gules.
Blue = Azure.
Green = Vert.
Black = Sable.
Purple = Purpure.

Metals:
Argent (silver, white)
Or (gold, yellow)

It get's a lot more complicated than that!

Hope that helps?
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Pavises and math is hard 11/11
Post by: Ogrob on November 12, 2023, 06:20:27 PM
They look great mate- I don't know whether to mention this or not but in Heraldry you cannot pout a "colour" on a "colour", nor a "metal" on a "metal". One can put a "metal" on a "colour" and vice versa .

Cheers! I did know that somewhere in the back of my head, but oh well.
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Knights ride to battle 12/11
Post by: Ogrob on November 19, 2023, 08:22:55 PM
Final thing to complete the basing scheme, some lavender flowers. Wanted to evoke southern France.

(https://i.imgur.com/Qin0zdc.jpg)

Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Knights ride to battle 12/11
Post by: Dean on November 20, 2023, 12:04:22 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Knights ride to battle 12/11
Post by: Basementboy on November 20, 2023, 04:49:39 PM
It looks gorgeous!
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Knights ride to battle 12/11
Post by: Ogrob on December 22, 2023, 10:24:46 PM
It's taken a while, but I managed to finish two points of warriors. Mostly Claymore Castings, a couple of V&V to round out the numbers.

(https://i.imgur.com/4LWQ5FP.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. 14th century infantry 22/12
Post by: Koyote on December 22, 2023, 11:10:21 PM
VERY nice. :)
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. 14th century infantry 22/12
Post by: LouieN on December 23, 2023, 05:18:15 AM
lovely figures
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. 14th century infantry 22/12
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on December 23, 2023, 05:54:27 AM
Great work mate! 👍
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. 14th century infantry 22/12
Post by: Bloggard on December 24, 2023, 01:20:31 PM
wonderful painting.
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. 14th century infantry 22/12
Post by: Ogrob on December 25, 2023, 11:35:06 AM
Thanks guys, much appreciated!

If anyone followed my Game of Thrones project, I had a period where I got really into civilian figures for the setting. Most of the Claymore figures going into this project have been taken from that old project, but I also happened upon some 1st Corps Camp Follower figures and bits that had been sat unpainted since doing the original lot of civilians. I based them up on 40mm rounds with the idea of using them as objectives for SAGA.

Here's how they've turned out:
(https://i.imgur.com/Z2rrJk1.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. 14th century camp followers 25/12
Post by: Dean on December 25, 2023, 11:58:17 AM
I think they are a great idea and well executed
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. 14th century camp followers 25/12
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on December 25, 2023, 11:59:05 AM
Adding civilians like that for objective markers looks great.
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. 14th century infantry 22/12
Post by: Atheling on December 25, 2023, 01:26:50 PM
Thanks guys, much appreciated!

If anyone followed my Game of Thrones project, I had a period where I got really into civilian figures for the setting. Most of the Claymore figures going into this project have been taken from that old project, but I also happened upon some 1st Corps Camp Follower figures and bits that had been sat unpainted since doing the original lot of civilians. I based them up on 40mm rounds with the idea of using them as objectives for SAGA.

Here's how they've turned out:
(https://i.imgur.com/Z2rrJk1.jpg)

What do you think?

Very nice work. Possibly some variation in the liveries on the shields (They don't appear to be coats of arms unless taken from a couple of centuries earlier?)
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. 14th century infantry 22/12
Post by: Ogrob on December 25, 2023, 02:56:33 PM
Very nice work. Possibly some variation in the liveries on the shields (They don't appear to be coats of arms unless taken from a couple of centuries earlier?)

Just going with what my limited patience can manage to freehand really...
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. 14th century camp followers 25/12
Post by: Ogrob on December 27, 2023, 12:12:42 PM
I went all in on Footsore's Welsh kickstarter a while back, and ended up with just about 6 pts of viking age welsh for SAGA, plus an assortment of rougghly high medieval figures. Some have found their home in my Sludge Free People force, and the last few have been in a box for quite a while. I was not terribly impressed with the quality of Footsore metal figures, so I am not planning on buying any more. As I was looking through the box of kickstarter leftovers I happened upon these four, who Footsore label "poor knights". I figured they could serve in a pinch as welsh adventurers/mercenaries in my 14th century force, even though their equipment is a bit outdated.

(https://i.imgur.com/3iPiYOB.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. 14th century camp followers 25/12
Post by: WorkShy on December 27, 2023, 11:56:41 PM
.... I was not terribly impressed with the quality of Footsore metal figures, so I am not planning on buying any more ...
They still look great even if you're not impressed.

What was the issue with Footsore? I love their Dark Age sculpts but stopped buying in 2022 after repeated issues with casting quality. The same issue? Or not so keen on the Welsh sculpts?
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. 14th century camp followers 25/12
Post by: Ogrob on December 28, 2023, 08:41:39 AM
They still look great even if you're not impressed.

What was the issue with Footsore? I love their Dark Age sculpts but stopped buying in 2022 after repeated issues with casting quality. The same issue? Or not so keen on the Welsh sculpts?

I dislike the metal they use, I believe with quite a high lead content, and the casting quality it gives. The sculpts themselves are excellent.
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Where did these welshmen come from? 27/12
Post by: Ogrob on December 30, 2023, 11:48:57 AM
And I managed to finish a couple more figures with hours to spare before travelling for New Years. After struggling with my first lot of 100 year war soldiers, I decided to paint the next lot in retinues instead of SAGA units, so a couple figures from each troop type, all in the same colour scheme. First retinue out are in my commanders scheme of red and yellow quartered.

(https://i.imgur.com/7nsMC2k.jpg)

This lot adds a second mounted Warlord figure, the lovely Camino de Santiago special figure from Stronghold Terrain. Sculpted by the fellow behind Reconquer Designs. An older, pious noble. He has walked the path of Saint James, and displays the cross to show his virtue.
(https://i.imgur.com/VlSLXNu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lIXFRxO.jpg)

Two foot knights from Claymore:
(https://i.imgur.com/f0Hz5aI.jpg)

Four pavisiers, two perry, one claymore, one antediluvian scot who got a surgical transplant of some plastic Perry arms:
(https://i.imgur.com/bem9YdM.jpg)

And then some Perry plastics, three mounted Warriors (in SAGA terms, not sure what the historical designation would be for these)
(https://i.imgur.com/CFG8MNm.jpg)

And three levy crossbowmen. I used some bodies from the English archers to reduce the amount of armour on these:
(https://i.imgur.com/5buqAi3.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. A lord and his retinue 30/12
Post by: Dean on December 30, 2023, 07:00:01 PM
Nice stuff as always
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. A lord and his retinue 30/12
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on December 31, 2023, 06:12:17 AM
Looking good mate!
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. A lord and his retinue 30/12
Post by: Basementboy on January 01, 2024, 11:22:44 AM
Awesome stuff! Love the grimy colour palette  :-*
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. A lord and his retinue 30/12
Post by: Seditiosus on January 15, 2024, 05:40:34 PM
great stuff as usual! really like the color scheme on these...!
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. A lord and his retinue 30/12
Post by: Ogrob on January 26, 2024, 09:35:00 PM
Another small viking age (or earlier) Irish interlude. Built some Irish characters in older style armour using Victrix late romans. The warlord on chariot is an option in the Scotti variant list from Age of Invasions, so migration rather than viking period.

(https://i.imgur.com/Ar4nymo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2NA5ahb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tZFvSpC.jpg)

Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. An irish interlude 26/1
Post by: Tonhel on January 28, 2024, 09:42:06 AM
Amazing work! :-*
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. An irish interlude 26/1
Post by: MaleGriffin on January 28, 2024, 05:51:27 PM
WoW! Just WoW!  :o
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. An irish interlude 26/1
Post by: Little Odo on January 28, 2024, 06:25:39 PM
Wow! Fantastic painting
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. An irish interlude 26/1
Post by: Ogrob on February 04, 2024, 02:29:21 PM
Thanks guys!

Today, just a small update on the 14th century force. If you are not part of the SAGA community, the Age of Chivalry expansion is still quite a ways out. There is no release date yet, but one of the authors estimated in an interview this summer at the very earliest. So, I have plenty of time to work on that force and it will not be that big a priority this early in the year. I just need to paint enough figures to test Blood & Crowns at some point, but I think I am pretty close there.

Now if you have followed my projects for a bit, you know that I am a big fan of Claymore Castings and their range. Going all the way back to my Game of Thrones project I've bought almost all of their new releases as they have come out. Today I just have a little hobby update, assembling some things, new and old.

First all four of their new knights, which come with foot and horse versions. Absolutely love these. Claymore has intended them as speciic personalities from the 100 year war, but I'm going to be going with other heraldry for these. I used a plastic Perry lance rather than wire, as all my other figures use plastic spears and lances.
(https://i.imgur.com/ezZyJ6f.jpg)

And secondly, some bits and pieces. I dug up their Black Prince figure, and since my force is partially themed around Spain and I happen to have a bunch of suitable archers, I could in fact play his force in the Castillian civil war. May as well paint him in other words. No use for King Edward however, so he got a headswap with one of the very fancy great helms from their modular Knight kit. Potentially a cool warlord, maybe a flamboyant free company leader. Had to do some greenstuff to fix his aventail. I had a spare knight with no horse, but a V&V resin horse, so quick fix there. The horse archers holding horses got assembled on bases that could be objective markers. Finally, one of their two packs of skirmishers. Not sure these will have a use in SAGA, but if they do I can happily buy the second set they offer.
(https://i.imgur.com/9wtHWNn.jpg)
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Assmebling some Claymore figures 4/2
Post by: Basementboy on February 05, 2024, 11:33:59 PM
They look fantastic! Lovely dynamic poses, can’t wait to see them painted ;)
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Assmebling some Claymore figures 4/2
Post by: Koyote on February 07, 2024, 10:13:04 PM
I love what you've done with your Britons. Excellent GS work as well.

I wasn't really too excited about Age of Chivalry until I saw your Claymore Castings minis.
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Assmebling some Claymore figures 4/2
Post by: HappyChappy439 on February 09, 2024, 10:36:27 AM
The figures look great! Thanks for showing them!
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Assmebling some Claymore figures 4/2
Post by: Bloggard on February 09, 2024, 06:26:00 PM
beautiful paint-jobs.
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Assmebling some Claymore figures 4/2
Post by: sir_shvantselot on February 09, 2024, 08:08:05 PM
Lovely.
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Assmebling some Claymore figures 4/2
Post by: Ogrob on February 24, 2024, 04:54:02 PM
Got another 12 archers painted, 8 claymore english and 4 footsore welsh. I had just thought to use these as archer levy for the factions that can take them, but I easily have the figures needed to play the English faction, in which case they are warriors rather than levy.

(https://i.imgur.com/89JZNkD.jpg)

What do you think?
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Longbows 24/2
Post by: Basementboy on February 24, 2024, 06:29:00 PM
I think they look great as always! Love the grubby vibe :D
Title: Re: Ogrob's medievals for SAGA. Longbows 24/2
Post by: Pattus Magnus on February 25, 2024, 03:13:03 AM
Completely agree, they look excellent. The colour palette you used really suits the figures.