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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: YPU on August 12, 2018, 08:09:16 PM
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There has been a sudden surge of interest in Epic 40k around here, so I decided to try and 3d print some of the more enticing models out there on thingy-verse. Quite happy with the results so far!
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Great tank! Would it be possible to print 6mm infantry? Just curiosity.
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Lovely job on both - that Warehound's lovely looking. I know the rest of the new Titanicus has mixed opinions, but I'm really looking forward to the plastic knights. I'll be using them with 6mm, regardless of the 'scale'.
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Great tank! Would it be possible to print 6mm infantry? Just curiosity.
On my printer its on the edge, some details become too fine and gloop together. I think I might be able to design around it and am working on some things. I have done the knights on the right here:
(https://i.imgur.com/yTj54Ef.jpg)
(infantry on the left by irregular)
And this entire aircraft including pilot are printed
(https://i.imgur.com/tWQWmwT.jpg)
Lovely job on both - that Warehound's lovely looking. I know the rest of the new Titanicus has mixed opinions, but I'm really looking forward to the plastic knights. I'll be using them with 6mm, regardless of the 'scale'.
Yeah I spend most of today painting the warhound. Glueing it together was quite the ordeal but I'm very happy with the results in the end, I feel like it can more than pass for an official model when on the table.
Yeah I'm sure there will be plenty from that line to use with 6mm stuff in the end. If I remember correctly the larger epic models often were underscaled when considering their in-universe stated size, so maybe the new stuff ends up being more "true size" in the end?
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Great stuff! 8)
I think IG infantry could be proxied by several different lines anyway, and I know of at least one site selling not-Necrons, not-Chaos etc infantry miniatures in 6mm.
But what is keeping me back from doing an actual Epic IG army is the absolutely ridiculous cost of even one simple Chimera.
For a sizable army, you'd need dozens, plus dozens of Leman Russes as well. And with those models regularly going for €25,- a piece, every time building such army crosses my mind, I quickly look for the nearest available other shiny thing; anything to keep me from diving into that bottomless pit ::)
But if those could be cranked out by a 3D printer, it may become that much more realistic a goal...
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Great stuff! 8)
Thanks mate!
Yeah, that was pretty much my train of thought as well. I have quite a few pax arcadia infantry from dark realm miniatures that work just fine. (though I might need to re-base them, not enthused about that) And when the sudden burst of interest came for epic online I couldn't help myself looking at the stuff on thingyverse. What with my printers material being quite pricy its still not "free models" as some people think about 3d printing, but its quite affordable. suddenly owning a good looking warhound titan kinda surprised me! I might have just printed another superheavy tank and 3 leman russes since my last post.
BTW are you on the dutch epic facebook group yet?
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I think the russes worked out quite well, the vanquisher I'm not sold on but the turrets are separate and I have files for all variants and then some.
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So here is the current state of my force. At this point, I need to admit that I've never played epic armegedon so I could use some pointers on how best to turn this into a playable fun 2000-3000 point force. I fully expect I will need to print another 10 or so russes to make a tank legion for example, but I feel like I've reached a point where I need to decide a direction before spamming out another dozen random vehicles, no matter how tempting!
So my current "collection" consists of:
3 Shadowsword/Stormblade/Stormsword plus the bits to make any of them any of the 3 types
(https://i.imgur.com/eM9B1Ee.jpg?1)
3 leman russ, I could print any variant turret if needed, or hulls without sponsons, thumper and destroyers are possible as well.
(https://i.imgur.com/KktVc0s.jpg?1)
7 Chimera, I could print bolter and flamer turrets as well
(https://i.imgur.com/uCm6GEF.jpg?1)
2 Hydra, 2 Deathstrike
Probably a bit specialized for a starter force, but couldn't resist their more complex shapes for variety. The missiles are removable as well for keeping track of their ammo state as well!
(https://i.imgur.com/oo6uUGZ.jpg?1)
Now infantry wise I have these dark realm infantry stands, mostly divided into 5 man fireteams and 2 man specialist teams, I figure I'm going to need to re-base some of these and I might re-paint them at that time as well if I end up going that route.
(https://i.imgur.com/OqrpeGY.jpg?1)
With the elite infantry especially, I clearly need to re-shuffle the MG units into the main units and work it out to 8 units so I can use them as stormtroopers.
(https://i.imgur.com/Zwsq1zI.jpg?1)
Not pictured, but I also have a couple of imperial cruisers from battlefleet gothic, so orbital strikes are a possibility I suppose.
And finally, I'm having a hard time deciding on a paint scheme for these guys, and I would really appreciate suggestions for a good looking scheme that's not too intensive to carry through on an entire force.
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These look good, I can understand why you keep wanting to print more!!
@Daethoer - have you had a look at Vanguard Miniatures for good proxies at a sensible price (and very nice models too).
As to an IG force for EA. There are a bunch of different rules (and even more army lists) under the EA banner so you probably want to check what version you will be playing. But in most the IG comes as big blocks of troops. So 10 Leman Russ is a good start, as are the Chimera to carry a company of infantry. For your Stormtroopers some Valkriye and Vultures will be good (gives some much need mobility).
A big block of artillery is very IG in EA - it can either be super effective, or a bit of a damp squib. But when it is a damp squib its because it has focused a lot of the opponent's energy onto neutralising it.
The Shadowswords are always good.
The deathstrikes are a bit silly - they either pretty much auto kill an enemy titan on the first activation, or are useless if the enemy hasn't brought any titans. Its a bit of a guess as to what your opponent will bring as to whether they will work or not. They are hugely annoying to play against, as there really isn't much of a counter to them.
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Thanks Fred!
I'm still very tempted to print at least one more warhound. Pitiably there aren't any good files for reaver titans, but I might just do those myself now I'm on a roll.
I think the preference is for net EA, since that appears to be the most active community. Sticking to their less experimental lists I think I'm either down to steel legion or tank legion. I'm still unsure about those 2, since I have this bunch of infantry ready that would work in the steel legion, however, they have hardly any aces to superheavy and tank variants meaning I have less choice there. On the other hand I guess I could play steel legion now with "just" shadowswords and stock leman russes, and switch to tank legion when I have enough tanks printed and painted.
You make an interesting point on the artillery, I guess I might need to print 10 manticores or basilisks. I think I prefer the manticore look, but either is viable print wise.
Yeah I feel you on the deathstrikes. They feel a bit like fun killers. if come turn one my 150 point unit wipes your 400+ point titan that feels very anticlimactic plus it was probably the unit you were most looking forward to fielding... I'll have to see on using them or not.
I think I will mostly be playing against orks of various kinds, and while I dislike tailoring a force entirely to my opponents, I have this idea that a 3 stormsword company with a 3 hellhound and 3 griffon upgrade would become a delightful ball of BP, flamer and heavy bolters. Opinions?
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My oppo has both IG and Orks - so I haven't seen the two fight each other. Could be interesting as both are quite horde like.
Orks aren't very shooty so being able to take them on at range is probably a good thing. We have tended to find that putting less well armoured stuff with good stuff, just means the good stuff tends to take a lot of Blast Markers as the chaff is killed off. I've also found trying to get units/formations that have both BP and normal shooting attacks, quite hard to get both working optimally. But give it a go, it may be a nice synergy.
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Damn, I wish I had 3d printing capabilities. I always wanted Epic Armageddon IG but was never able to gather models :(
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Thanks for the advice Fred!
Awu, Yeah I'm kinda surprised at how easy this is going truth be! If you are still looking to play, there are quite a few models out there which (intentionally) come very close to the GW models, quality wise they are often better than the original epic models since 3d sculpting and printing has come a long way since then.
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Looking fantastic so far. I'm on the verge of starting up some Epic for HH with a friend, so I'm always looking for options and directions to go. You've had excellent results from what I can see.
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Looking fantastic so far. I'm on the verge of starting up some Epic for HH with a friend, so I'm always looking for options and directions to go. You've had excellent results from what I can see.
And pretty much zero effort, the files were ripe for the picking form thingyverse. The tanks are good, but that warhound titan is something else. People in other forums were doubting if it was actually 3d printed and not just a forgeworld one lol
I'm still open to sugestions for camo schemes btw!
I'm considering that clasic green and yellow imperial guard scheme if nothing else pops to mind. Pretty much the way GW shows them still, though maybe a yellower yellow than this sand yellow.
(https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120105048_LemanRussBattleTankNEW01.jpg)
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Green and Yellow is a good scheme. Painting camo on epic models can be fairly quick, I did a grey and green scheme for my squats and it was pretty quick to add the green camo over the grey basecoat. I think you are right to brighten up the sand to be a bit more yellow.
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For today’s progress (and its coming daily, tomorrows stuff is already printing) we have 3 hellhounds fresh of the priming, and the first camo scheme test! I’m trying to go classic IG camo scheme on these, I quite like the result, it's a bit involved to be doing 30-40 tanks in but let's see how far I get with batch painting these.
(https://i.imgur.com/5z9aIGn.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/9xK6Gpa.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/Y110LcK.jpg?1)
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Like the yellow and green. Not sure about the black lining at this scale, it looks a bit thick. I've done it on French WWII tanks in 10mm, but on 6mm I'm not so sure.
I meant to ask earlier, what 3D printer are you using? You seem to be getting some very smooth prints.
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I get what you mean, though I did them last and definitely feel they add something to it. I found some pictures of older 40k models from he that had lines a centimetre wide. That of course doesn't make it better looking at 6mm
My printer is a form 1+ older but it works for now.
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Something tank company shaped is coming this way I think, but for today I have something that provides a bit of reach.
(https://i.imgur.com/z1ISE99.jpg?1)
Reach out and etc...
The barrels on these are just wedged in there since I am planning to make a medusa variant barrel soon.
I’m also testing an infantry autocannon design right now, so I can re-base my infantry with a bit more accurate weaponry. Especially for support squads, this should get me a long way I think, using the leftover engineer and spotter models I still have.
(https://i.imgur.com/MXnrjEf.jpg)
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Great little thread 8)
I prefer the green/sand colour in the Russ picture though.
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I prefer the green/sand colour in the Russ picture though.
I'm not saying you are wrong, but I just did 7 chimera in that scheme and I'm not going back now :p
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Fair enough lol
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Nice and bright is good for epic!
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Talking about nice and bright here they are:
(https://i.imgur.com/HsO9Xl7.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/PReS5Gz.jpg?1)
Can't say I immensely enjoy army painting half a dozen IFV's like this but they be done. Though I do now realize I will probably need 3 more to transport the support squads and snipers I would like to attach to the formation.
next up probably my last mayor prints for this faction until I've painted more, I have printed 7 more Leman Russ tanks, including 4 mars pattern ones for variety. Luckily since my first tank prints Mkhand uploaded alternative designs for pretty much all russ turrets, including two alternative vanquisher turrets, so I replaced the old one with the big bell on the end with something a bit more reasonable.
Assuming I can get myself to paint all this I might end up printing 3 more hulls sans sponsons, for the conqueror and executioner variants (I think those are the ones) and some tank destroyer and thumper variants as well should I wish to play as a tank legion. But first let's paint these 10!
(https://i.imgur.com/Uj6Yxah.jpg?1)
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This whole 3D printing thing seems like necromancy to me, so this looks like purest magic. How fantastic.
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The painted ones look good.
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This whole 3D printing thing seems like necromancy to me, so this looks like purest magic. How fantastic.
You should see the printer in action, it's like some goopy alien birth!
The painted ones look good.
Thanks mate!
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Fantastic!
We really do live in the future. I really need to get me one of those magic 3d printers and the skills to use it...
Out of curiosity how long does it take to print a tank at that scale?
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Fantastic!
We really do live in the future. I really need to get me one of those magic 3d printers and the skills to use it...
Out of curiosity how long does it take to print a tank at that scale?
horizontal surface hardly matters but vertical takes a lot of time, however putting surfaces at 45-degree angle on the longest axis is ideal to it mostly depends on the length of a vehicle. I can print about 3-4 normal sized tanks in 4 hours at the highest detail setting. I could fit triple that on the print platform and increase the time by maybe an hour but that increases the chances of flaws and visible print lines.
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If you will forgive the clutter, here are 3 basilisks I finished last night.
(https://i.imgur.com/rIxzTdx.jpg)
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Really, really good.
There seem to be no printlines, do you sand the minis after printing?
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Really, really good.
There seem to be no printlines, do you sand the minis after printing?
Thanks man,
I clean up the bottoms where the supports are attached mostly. I sand where needed but on those basilisks, the cleanup didn't involve any sanding at all.
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Amazing, considering how many printlines are on Shapeway prints, this is quite an achievement!
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Nice.
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Amazing, considering how many printlines are on Shapeway prints, this is quite an achievement!
Yup, I'm not out of a job yet. But like I said there is a trade-off in the supports. But since most wargaming miniatures have a bottom that sits on the table anyway...
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The basilisk have come out very nice. The black lines on the camo work well on them
I am very impressed with the quality of these prints. The print time seems reasonable too - you can only paint them so fast, so it seems you can have stuff printing, and then paint it, in more of a production line style, rather than the normal buy a big pile of stuff, then try to get round to painting it.
This thread is making 3D printing much more attractive.
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Really impressive. Like those a lot, the warhound is incredible
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Definitely true fred! I need to watch how much I print for myself since it's my main money maker as well.
Thanks steders! The warhound was the first print of this project and what got me hooked on just printing the entire force!
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Yep, while a 3D printer is in my future, threads like this don't help me wait. lol Particularly for stuff like Epic which is dead and gone and unsupported (though official channels). Being able to print the bulk of your army is fantastic.
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I'm with you. With the release of Adeptus Titanicus a lot of people are 3d printing bits and it makes me want to get a printer as well. :'(
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Cheers guys,
Just keep in mind I could have bought a LOT of adaptus titanicus sets for the price of my 3d printer, not to mention the price of the resin. o_o
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Oh, for sure. That's why I haven't jumped on the $250 printer bandwagon.
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I was talking about this, there are a number of far cheaper resin printers out there (sparkmaker for instance) that have lots of potential but also huge flaws. Many of those flaws can be fixed with some elbow grease and replacement parts. The actual value and use of those machines is debatable (though the price matches that fact) however once other people learn from their mistakes and improve upon it I think we will see a new category of middle priced consumer resin printers in the 500-1000 euro range that might be worth it form miniature gamers.
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Bit of firepower today, some far range and some up close. Hellhound flame tanks and basilisk SPGs.
(https://i.imgur.com/xLNi56p.jpg?1)
The basilisk is, of course, a mainstay of the imperial guard and the classic howitzer style artillery piece.
(https://i.imgur.com/wrop00S.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/eU0xrIM.jpg?1)
The hellhound, on the other hand, has a very close range anti-infantry flamethrower that is good at flushing the buggers out of cover, which is a huge pain in the ass in epic!
(https://i.imgur.com/mzpjPIU.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/8HDCkDQ.jpg?1)
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I must admit, the bolder colour scheme is growing on me 8)
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Definitely not regretting it yet. I'm moving into aircraft soon I think, and I think those should have a different scheme, not sure on what yet though.
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Same on top and pale grey underneath?
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Oh hey, good idea. I was thinking pale grey but not sure what to do on top, that sounds like a good one!
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Either that or the lighter colour all over, that might be a bit too much though :?
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Very, very nice. I take it your is an SLA printer. What resolution is that at?
I might need to start out my own little epic force (Don't think it would work too well on an FDM printer at 100 microns though)
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Yeah, if extrusion printers would be pulling these result.... o_o Its a SLA indeed, resolution a mix of 25 and 50-micron prints.
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I've been ploughing on, by which I mean I've added a plough or 2 on. my own design and print this time.
(https://i.imgur.com/qKlwvND.jpg)
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:o again , great job!
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Been following closely. :-*
Must be fun to print your own models.
Anyway the Basilisks are my favorite and am looking forward to see how the Leman Russ tanks come out.
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Must be fun to print your own models.
Anyway the Basilisks are my favorite and am looking forward to see how the Leman Russ tanks come out.
Addictive is the word I think. As for the russes they are going to come out in force, have a unit of 10 ready and primed now!
With this project rolling along nicely, I've started thinking about scenery. I have a decent collection of desert rocks mesa's and bluffs that are all scale agnostic enough to be of use. I've been working on some hills with cliffs and escarpments as well which all fits the generic armageddon terrain I think.
However I'm lacking area terrain that can provide good cover, and now the idea plopped into my head to make large fields of ruble, together forming a crashed ork spaceship. I blame the fact that the spacemarine PC game was given away for free last week, and the very first level of that game has you fighting on top of a ork ship in the atmosphere. I realized that a crashed version could work well as terrain and the flat ish surface could even be passable (but dangerous) to vehicles.
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My next update is extra small, a autocannon for one of my support squads. Models by dark realm miniatures, now scattered among a couple of manufacturers I believe.
(https://i.imgur.com/8WjhFoI.jpg)
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Thats a nice little model.
Do you know who has the Dark Realm Models now? I have quite a few of their models, mainly Skyth and it would be good to know where to be able to get more from.
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some of them are here: https://www.microworldgames.com/collections/dark-realm-miniatures/skyth
I'm not sure if he own the molds or is stocking them though. :? I really would love to get my hands on some more regular infantry.
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Definitely impressive :o
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Keep on with the goodies Tim! :)
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Keep on with the goodies Tim! :)
Well, I guess I'll have to now! ;D
A griffon heavy mortar carrier squad attachment finished, I would have prefered these to have some crew, but sourcing figures for that crossed my quick and cheap threshold.
(https://i.imgur.com/Tt9rfI6.jpg?1)
Of course, sometimes inspiration strikes and I spend half a day on a complete distraction... you see, I would like a knight army at some point.
(https://i.imgur.com/6x6gmsi.jpg)
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Definitely Epic!
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I like it! Shown that big, it definitely lacks some details, but i guess you'll figure what to add after the first print.
Something i'd be curioust to see are custom-posed figures on the body. Like climbing or commanding from the top. Once you're printing, it shouldn't make much of a difference, right? =)
Cheers
Jack
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I like it! Shown that big, it definitely lacks some details, but i guess you'll figure what to add after the first print.
Something i'd be curioust to see are custom-posed figures on the body. Like climbing or commanding from the top. Once you're printing, it shouldn't make much of a difference, right? =)
Cheers
Jack
You really like setting my challenges, don't you? ;D Still, might be an interesting starting point for my zbrush skills
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You really like setting my challenges, don't you? ;D Still, might be an interesting starting point for my zbrush skills
I always do! And you generally ignore them, anyways. lol
For 6mm figures, maybe protruded nurbs could work as well? it might look less fancy than the Onslaught ones in rendering, but at the end of the day they'll be pretty much the same.
Cheers
Jack
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Just took some pictures of my sentinels, these are entirely my own CAD work, though not design obviously.
(https://i.imgur.com/odkyZlF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/C2HImMW.jpg?1)
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CUTE! 2 cents bases?
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CUTE! 2 cents bases?
Right on the money! The weight keeps them nice and steady.
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Right on the money!
lol
Yeah, what i don't like of 2 cents is the central line. Maybe fill it with a bit of greenstuff?
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There has been a bit of a storm of high quality epic infantry uploaded on Thingiverse, I've started on a couple of stormtroopers, but these are going to take quite some time to get all the details done justice!
(https://i.imgur.com/hGGi55P.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Uu3mSty.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/odVl4ce.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cZRcY11.jpg)
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By the Emperor's Toenails, those are tiny! :o Yet also a very good representation of their 28mm counterparts. These were always my favourite stormtrooper sculpts.
And the painting on that one mini is great too! 8)
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Nice dude - I didn't know those sentinels were yours, I've got some on the printer as we speak! and even weirder - they're to go with those same stormtroopers! I've shrunk them to 90% though because I like small 6mm infantry. They're so nice.
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those same stormtroopers! I've shrunk them to 90% though because I like small 6mm infantry. They're so nice.
Well, they came as a bolt out of the blue superb quality models so I figure everybody who spotted them and has half the machine to do them justice is printing them. They scale perfectly with the Dark Realm infantry I'm using, but those are quite large!
Do post your stuff up as well, always good to see more Epic!
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Coming as no surprise to anyone I've got a bit distracted away from this by the dieselkrieg stuff. However today I did a quick CAD of an old limited release Eldar Phoenix bomber.
(https://i.imgur.com/qVI2Tam.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/Fgd0sNp.png)
This is what it's based on, picture from stuff of legends.
(https://i.imgur.com/HylHBSX.jpg)