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Title: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 19, 2018, 01:14:12 AM
Grognards will have seen all this before, but I'm slowly gathering together the best of my old photo galleries together onto my blog.  So here are the British units I painted for the Waterloo Bicentennial game in 2015.  Netherlands, French and Prussians to follow:

http://www.jemimafawr.co.uk/2018/09/19/the-scum-of-the-earth-wellingtons-army-at-waterloo-in-15mm/

(https://imageshack.com/a/img924/6152/sSkZcW.jpg)
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: FifteensAway on September 19, 2018, 01:38:21 AM
Quite nicely painted 15 mm figures.  And may I complement you on your skills with lighting, depth of field, and camera work?  Also quite nice.
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 19, 2018, 02:01:57 AM
REALLY??!!  :o

Lighting:  Outside on a sunny day (which in Wales means that I get to take photos about twice a year...).  ;)

Depth of field:  With that particular camera there was almost no depth of field at all.  It would focus on one solitary figure and everything else was out of focus (look at the photos where a line is angled away from the camera - the ends of the line are out of focus).  However, the colour saturation was superb and the resolution was epic, allowing spectacular zoom-in.  However, that camera broke about two years ago and I've used my phone camera ever since (e.g. for the 2nd foot Guards photo).  The depth of field with that is great and the resolution is good enough for the screen, but the colour when working indoors can be rubbish and usually needs tweaking.

But thank you very much! :)
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: DintheDin on September 19, 2018, 06:41:15 AM
You did a lot of finely painted little men! Superb!
You are a prolific and very talented painter!
And AB figures are just... beauties!  :-*
Congats for your job, a great collection! Cheers!
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Wellington Bonaparte on September 19, 2018, 10:58:36 PM
Fantastic stuff on the blog, its amazing these are 15mm! They really are superb, thanks for showing them   :)
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: FifteensAway on September 20, 2018, 04:41:26 AM
Even in natural sunlight, making choices determines if the photo tells its story, yours do.  And depth field matters when the target subject is not in focus, yours are all in focus as far as I can see.  So, still I say, good job.
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 20, 2018, 07:18:05 AM
That's very kind of you chaps, especially the unfounded accusations of photographic competence!  ;)

We Welsh have now had our sun ration for 2018 (just enough to turn us from our natural pale blue colouring to white), so no more decent photos until 2019! :(
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 20, 2018, 11:05:15 PM
I've added the Netherlanders:

http://www.jemimafawr.co.uk/2018/09/20/long-live-the-house-of-orange-netherlands-troops-at-waterloo/
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: DintheDin on September 21, 2018, 06:41:57 AM
I was amazed to see your post presenting the whole House of Orange down to its smallest detail! The command base is a vignette on its own!
And then all the Netherlanders and Belgians presented with such an accuracy! -Using the info you had at hand then-. And it is also great that you comment the little mistakes or ommissions or guesses adding corrective additional information! And all what we see, for sure took you hours of hard work and a serious money investment to buy such wonderful sculpts in quantities. Well, when you enter a project, you enter a project with all your heart! My best compliments! 
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 21, 2018, 08:35:32 AM
Cheers that's very kind!

Yeah, well where there's a mistake it annoys me more than anyone!  ::)

I also thought it was worth pre-empting criticism re 'deliberate mistakes' such as those 'wrong' 1815 Pattern (i.e. post-Waterloo) flags.  It's always problematic when you buy a unit with a standard-bearer figure... something has to go on the pole unless you have a spare figure to fill that gap in the line!  Old Glory are buggers for that - they'll give you standard bearers in a pack for units that didn't carry standards (e.g. SYW Prussian Grenadiers)...

It's also interesting to highlight how lucky we are now compared to just a few years ago, in the wide variety of models we now have to choose from, as well as the easy availability of uniform information via t'interweb.
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: OSHIROmodels on September 21, 2018, 08:38:57 AM
Nicely done  8)
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Cubs on September 21, 2018, 09:28:01 AM
Gorgeous. I have an on-again, off-again semi-project based around painting up my old Airifx Napoleonics and this has given me a nice boost. Lovely bit of factoid about the battalion colours, too. I never knew that.
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: DintheDin on September 21, 2018, 09:35:16 AM
Cheers that's very kind!

Yeah, well where there's a mistake it annoys me more than anyone!  ::)

You are a person who likes to recreate history with the most possible accuracy, so incorrect information may mislead other people using your work as reference.

Old Glory are buggers for that - they'll give you standard bearers in a pack for units that didn't carry standards (e.g. SYW Prussian Grenadiers)...

 :? and they are so good sculpts, one can't resist to buy!


It's also interesting to highlight how lucky we are now compared to just a few years ago, in the wide variety of models we now have to choose from, as well as the easy availability of uniform information via t'interweb.

As I am living in quite a distance from the center of wargaming events, imagine how much more difficult it was for me, thirty years before, to gather historical information or even to purchase good figures. My starting armies (mainly Napoleonic) were 1/72 plastic with innumerable conversions. I have still some of them to remember these "heroic" years...
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 21, 2018, 09:40:11 AM
Gorgeous. I have an on-again, off-again semi-project based around painting up my old Airifx Napoleonics and this has given me a nice boost. Lovely bit of factoid about the battalion colours, too. I never knew that.
Cheers!  Yeah, I first cut my teeth on Airfix and Esci plastics, as well as Prince August homecast. :)

Re the flags; the last time I checked, only one Netherlands flag is known from the period - that of the 27th Jagers, which I think was a white flag displaying a hunting-horn badge and the number '27' within, as well as some sort of inscription beneath (regimental title, I think).  IIRC, other Netherlands units are recorded as carrying flags, but they weren't described.  To be honest, as they weren't described we may as well just use the 'wrong' ones (and damned spiffing they look)...  :D
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 21, 2018, 09:51:17 AM
You are a person who likes to recreate history with the most possible accuracy, so incorrect information may mislead other people using your work as reference.

 :? and they are so good sculpts, one can't resist to buy!

As I am living in quite a distance from the center of wargaming events, imagine how much more difficult it was for me, thirty years before, to gather historical information or even to purchase good figures. My starting armies (mainly Napoleonic) were 1/72 plastic with innumerable conversions. I have still some of them to remember these "heroic" years...
Someone once suggested that if you can't discover something, just make a 'deliberate' error and then when someone corrects you, take notes and ask for their references - free research!  :D

Ah yes, as mentioned above, I started out with Airfix and Esci Napoleonics, as well as Prince August home-cast. :)

Re OG SYW - those grenadier standard-bearers did actually come in handy for IR 6 and the 3rd Battalion of IR 15, otherwise not so much... That pack also had a load of useless grenadier officers in mitre caps, which meant that about 20% of the pack was useless.  >:(  I think OG's problem in those days was that they looked at the pretty pictures in Osprey books but never read the text (hence Prussian cavalry with plumes and Garde du Korps officers with tabards - both post-1762).  That said, I can forgive them for the extra Garde du Korps standard bearer they stuck in each Prussian Cuirassier pack and the 'comedy' Prussian ADC with one heavy cavalry leg and one hussar leg... and the French Napoleonic ADC with three arms (one sleeve of his slung pelisse had a hand poking out of it)...  lol
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: DintheDin on September 21, 2018, 11:26:25 AM
Someone once suggested that if you can't discover something, just make a 'deliberate' error and then when someone corrects you, take notes and ask for their references - free research!  :D

Ah yes, as mentioned above, I started out with Airfix and Esci Napoleonics, as well as Prince August home-cast. :)

Re OG SYW - those grenadier standard-bearers did actually come in handy for IR 6 and the 3rd Battalion of IR 15, otherwise not so much... That pack also had a load of useless grenadier officers in mitre caps, which meant that about 20% of the pack was useless.  >:(  I think OG's problem in those days was that they looked at the pretty pictures in Osprey books but never read the text (hence Prussian cavalry with plumes and Garde du Korps officers with tabards - both post-1762).  That said, I can forgive them for the extra Garde du Korps standard bearer they stuck in each Prussian Cuirassier pack and the 'comedy' Prussian ADC with one heavy cavalry leg and one hussar leg... and the French Napoleonic ADC with three arms (one sleeve of his slung pelisse had a hand poking out of it)...  lol

The problem is if nobody corrects your "deliberate" error and everybody believes you are god in your domain, you then condemn many poor souls to sciolism  :?

The first foreign book for the hobby that fell in my hands was "Uniforms of Waterloo" and I started converting every Airfix and ESCi figure to different units. Many Royal Horse Artillery men lost their nice tarleton. Then, the ESCI Scots Greys lost their shako and the tarleton was turned to a British heavy cavalry helmet. With some similar way, other Scots Greys became Austrian cavalry, using Austrian helmets. And my first French Napoleonic Generals' bicorns were bicorns taken from ESCI Prussian infantry  :) On the way, of course, I had amassed a huge Osprey collection of all these armies' uniforms.

IR6 and IR15, at least they are useful somewhere.
But the French ADC with three arms, I didn't know! Hilarious!

But when you love, you forgive and OG is fully loveable!

 
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 23, 2018, 07:49:10 PM
And some Prussians: http://www.jemimafawr.co.uk/2018/09/23/vorwarts-some-prussian-units-for-waterloo/
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 25, 2018, 04:35:24 PM
And the French... http://www.jemimafawr.co.uk/2018/09/25/where-is-grouchy-some-french-units-for-waterloo/
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Andrew_McGuire on September 25, 2018, 05:39:25 PM
I'm unable to view the blog, as it is blocked by Leics. County Council's library service on ground of 'violence'. Why not this forum, in that case?

Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 25, 2018, 05:59:30 PM
I'm unable to view the blog, as it is blocked by Leics. County Council's library service on ground of 'violence'. Why not this forum, in that case?
Yes, the inner-workings of net-nannys are a complete mystery to me.  I'm on my work computer now and can get on this forum fine, but others are blocked as 'games', as are most of my blog pages.   >:(
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: DintheDin on September 26, 2018, 07:46:48 AM
I can see your blog and was awed by these superb AB sculpts, superbly painted!
You really have a rare collection and so historically documented!
I'm envious with all the good sense of the word!
What to comment most? I'm moved by such beauty!
Many congrats and I wish you always be able to maintain it in good condition and display it in big convention games for all the people to admire this treasure!
Cheers!
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Andrew_McGuire on September 26, 2018, 05:23:48 PM
Strangely enough, at the same library I've just watched this trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1W1DLwg3lk

ADVISORY: CONTAINS VIOLENCE
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 26, 2018, 06:07:48 PM
Strangely enough, at the same library I've just watched this trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1W1DLwg3lk

ADVISORY: CONTAINS VIOLENCE
LOL needless to say, the work computer won't let me see it...  lol
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 26, 2018, 06:09:34 PM
I can see your blog and was awed by these superb AB sculpts, superbly painted!
You really have a rare collection and so historically documented!
I'm envious with all the good sense of the word!
What to comment most? I'm moved by such beauty!
Many congrats and I wish you always be able to maintain it in good condition and display it in big convention games for all the people to admire this treasure!
Cheers!
Steady on Din!   :D  The crisp tenners will be in the usual brown envelope...  Now is there any chance you could tell Mrs Fawr how wonderful I am...?  :(
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: DintheDin on September 26, 2018, 06:59:52 PM
Steady on Din!   :D  The crisp tenners will be in the usual brown envelope...  Now is there any chance you could tell Mrs Fawr how wonderful I am...?  :(


LOL! Quite many years before, a TV channel came home for an interview -these times I was prolific with figure painting- then my wife told the reporters that all that work they saw, was because I had a patient wife  8)

Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Andrew_McGuire on September 27, 2018, 03:47:59 PM
I appreciate this is straying a little from the main topic, but, as you haven't been able to watch the trailer for the film, and I can't see your miniatures, I thought you might be interested in these quotes from The Guardian's review:

 "an intestine-snappingly brutal movie"

"Black 47 is a viscerally tough and uncompromisingly violent picture, something like an exploitation shocker at times"

How many war-games achieve this, I wonder?



 
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 27, 2018, 08:44:14 PM
Oh I've had some intestine-snapping wargames...

Though now I come to think of it, that might have been the club curry night beforehand...
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Andrew_McGuire on September 28, 2018, 06:23:47 PM
i envy you, I think, at least as far as the intensity of the games is concerned. I will stay quiet on the intestinal issue, which is something of a sore point for me, so to speak.

On a more pleasant note, I have now managed to see your blog, on a non-library computer, and share the enthusiasm and plaudits expressed by other LAFers. I only hope the library network watchdogs, to whom I have reported the ludicrous anomaly,  are prompt in taking remedial action.
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 28, 2018, 08:03:18 PM
Thanks very much indeed!  To be fair to the librarians, they were only thinking of your well-being... 'tis a silly place...
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Wellington Bonaparte on September 28, 2018, 10:44:59 PM
Just spent a very pleasant half hour or so reading through your blog and gawping at the pictures! I find it difficult to believe that these are 15mm, amazing detail and your knowledge is incredible, I thought I knew a fair bit about Waterloo and the allied armies but ive learnt a lot from your blog.
Many thanks look forward to seeing more.
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 29, 2018, 01:45:46 AM
Cheers Welly!

Or is it Boney...?

There'll be a lot more soon - I've done stacks more French and French-allied Napoleonics since then, as well as Prussian Guards, Portuguese, Spaniards and a whole Austrian army.
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on September 29, 2018, 10:59:25 AM
Here we go again, “Hi Iain, please send me a hundred weight of AB post haste”...
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on September 29, 2018, 12:51:14 PM
Here we go again, “Hi Iain, please send me a hundred weight of AB post haste”...
Oh indeed... Especially as he's just got some new ABs in (Guard Mamelukes and some other Guard stuff, I understand).

Mrs Fawr was convinced I was having an affair with a bloke named Ian, considering how much money I was giving him...
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Andrew_McGuire on October 03, 2018, 04:40:02 PM
Thanks very much indeed!  To be fair to the librarians, they were only thinking of your well-being... 'tis a silly place...

I've just been informed sanity has prevailed, at least in this particular case.
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on October 03, 2018, 05:13:40 PM
And now your descent into insanity can truly begin...  lol
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Andrew_McGuire on October 03, 2018, 05:48:01 PM
And now your descent into insanity can truly begin...  lol

It began long ago, and is on an unstoppable course. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Some Units for Waterloo (AB Figures)
Post by: Jemima Fawr on October 03, 2018, 08:40:11 PM
It began long ago, and is on an unstoppable course. Thanks for the help.
I'll do what I can to help you on your way...  ;)

I'm off to Malta for my hols from Friday, but there will be more Napoleonics when I get back.