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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Sangennaru on September 19, 2018, 05:27:44 PM

Title: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on September 19, 2018, 05:27:44 PM
Cheers everyone!

Just to test out my little printer (a SparkMaker - i would reccomend it for its price if you're OK with messing around with a LOT of mechanical issues, otherwise go for a fancier model!), i did sketch some simple 6mm tanks, and printed them out.
I made two chassis variations, plus one for a missile system of some kind.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/WhatsApp-Image-2018-09-19-at-10.47.49.jpeg)

That said, the print went nicely, and the result showed all the details of the original model. A bit chubbier and softer, not as good as a professional print, but at least there are no print-lines!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9190008.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9190009.jpg)

With a first coat with the airbrush, it's blending nicely with the rest of my forces (Ground Zero Games, mostly).


(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9190010.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9190011.jpg)

Soon i'll try to paint them up! I've got a force already painted, and I will follow the same scheme! Something like that:
[img width=600http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/DSC00650.jpg[/img]

Stay tuned, or follow the progresses on facebook! https://www.facebook.com/thelazyforger

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Vanvlak on September 19, 2018, 05:34:34 PM
Those look quite good.  8)
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: fred on September 19, 2018, 08:36:54 PM
They have come out well

How long did it take you to draw up the first tank? I assume the variants were fairly quick after the first one was done.
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on September 19, 2018, 09:22:13 PM
Those look quite good.  8)

They have come out well

How long did it take you to draw up the first tank? I assume the variants were fairly quick after the first one was done.

Thank you!

The original design took around one hour tops. The variants yeah, fairly little. The rockets maybe another 20 mins, as i wanted them to look nice. :)
It's quite a rough design, but it does its job! :)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: jambo1 on September 20, 2018, 07:32:24 AM
They look fine, very decent job indeed, I would be happy with them on my table! :)
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on September 20, 2018, 10:03:51 AM
They look fine, very decent job indeed, I would be happy with them on my table! :)

Thanks!
I'm printing the rocketlaunchers today, let's see if the tiny little tips will come out well! :)


I'm still undecided whether to release the designs (with others) for free or to sell them to some company. We'll see. :)
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: zemjw on September 20, 2018, 10:12:10 AM
It may be worth looking at selling them through Shapeways, assuming they pass their tests. They're small enough that they shouldn't be too expensive.

I'm not sure you'd make a huge amount, but more than you'll make if you put the designs on thingiverse :D

I also suspect you'll need a resin printer or better for those pieces, which would limit the number of people who could print them successfully.

Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on September 20, 2018, 10:20:06 AM
It may be worth looking at selling them through Shapeways, assuming they pass their tests. They're small enough that they shouldn't be too expensive.

I'm not sure you'd make a huge amount, but more than you'll make if you put the designs on thingiverse :D

I also suspect you'll need a resin printer or better for those pieces, which would limit the number of people who could print them successfully.

My point here exactly, selling the STL or the prints is not an option for me. I'm seriously annoyed by the large amount of low-quality 3D stuff being sold on SW and as STLs around. People are pouring money out of the hobby for this bubble, and the actual people doing the serious work (sculptors and companies) are losing income thanks to that.
I usually sell my 3Ds to companies that cast them (as i do with my physical sculpts), but I'm considering with some fellow sculptors to start a collection of ranges of free 3D models, to discourage people from buying cheap STLs in quickly cobbled together kickstarters.

Sort of a pro-bono thing, but honestly I'd rather help a bit this fragile community rather than making a few bucks out of quickly made models.

It's sort of a vague idea for now, but we're three for now and hopefully more will come. :)
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on September 20, 2018, 05:21:34 PM
YAYYY! The rocket launchers are a success!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9200016.jpg)

Very happy with the print! Motivated to do more.


C&C and suggestions for new parts welcome!
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Jagannath on September 20, 2018, 07:10:40 PM
These are cool! I wish I could use Sketch Up well - it took me about to 4 hours to make some cube crates though!
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on September 20, 2018, 08:09:15 PM
These are cool! I wish I could use Sketch Up well - it took me about to 4 hours to make some cube crates though!

It's a very easy software to begin with. Then it becomes frustrating to improve, then easy again.

Some heavy armour for the tank too:

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/42178393_556617958107501_1215871448694915072_n.png)

Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: gregmita on September 20, 2018, 10:38:14 PM
These look great! I have a Sparkmaker myself and have had mixed results. What layer and speed settings do you use to get this level of detail?
This Epic scale vindicator was printed at 25um but still shows print lines.
(http://i.imgur.com/jmoaQqu.jpg)
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on September 20, 2018, 10:45:44 PM
These look great! I have a Sparkmaker myself and have had mixed results. What layer and speed settings do you use to get this level of detail?
This Epic scale vindicator was printed at 25um but still shows print lines.

I'm using the Anycubic grey resin. The LCD-T isn't awesome, and the N is messy, i had some decent results with that but still.

here are the settings:
(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/SparkAnyCubicGreySettings.png)

Moreover, i did replace the screw nut, swapped the LCD with the glass and replaced the FEP film.

Now it's working good! :)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: gregmita on September 22, 2018, 06:34:43 AM
Thanks! I have the LCD mod but not the others. I'm going to try them.
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on September 22, 2018, 09:07:06 AM
Let us know the results! :)

MEANWHILE, some heavy tanks have been printed, as well as other light ones. Notice the additional elements on the hulls, and the open door on one turret.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9220023.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9220024.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9220026.jpg)

C&C welcome,
Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Cherno on September 22, 2018, 01:02:39 PM
These come out surprisingly well for a home printer! I would never have imagined usch a quality would be possible with a non-professional product.

I remember something about GHQ circumventing the issue with details disappearing in their tiny 6mm metal tanks by making them far larger than they would be to scale, mostly rivets which would be three times larger or even more so they are prominently visible at this scale. Maybe that's something to consider when creating the 3d models for printing as well.
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on September 22, 2018, 02:05:40 PM
These come out surprisingly well for a home printer! I would never have imagined usch a quality would be possible with a non-professional product.

I remember something about GHQ circumventing the issue with details disappearing in their tiny 6mm metal tanks by making them far larger than they would be to scale, mostly rivets which would be three times larger or even more so they are prominently visible at this scale. Maybe that's something to consider when creating the 3d models for printing as well.

Thanks! It's something i always do when modelling. In fact, most of what i do couldn't be just "rescaled" to other scales and work as well. I keep the polygons to a low level and dthe details as exxagerated as possible. :)

The printer itself is very nice. Any SLA-DLP printer can achieve this quality, the increasing price is more due to reliability and speed. Of course, when you go tenfold up, the quality is much better too. :)

Still, for a 200 euros kickstarter, i'm happy. :)
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on September 22, 2018, 03:51:59 PM
A few more tanks printed. And two little soviet cars, who doesn't need a Trabant?

Now looking for new designs, I'm happy with my first one! How should i call it, btw? Ideas?

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9220027.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9220026.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9220028.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9220030.jpg)

Here are the trabants. Not a lot of details, but good for scenery.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9220034.jpg)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on September 29, 2018, 10:13:20 AM
More designs in the works! APCs and heavier tanks. Some long range cannons too.

The heavy version of the tanks above has a taller hull and a much larger turret. I guess it'll be slower, but it's not a big deal:
(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/42808508_254831931887257_851552926575886336_n.png)

APC and long range cannon on a different hull. Not a super fan of this design, i might ditch it entirely for my forces.
(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/42744654_1912176972200350_1684963314293014528_n.png)

That's it for now. Printed copies of the heavy tank are being done.

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on September 29, 2018, 04:12:25 PM
Here's some photos before i start the painting:

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9290064.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9290066.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9290067.jpg)

Cheers again,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Tungdil on September 29, 2018, 04:22:41 PM
Nice stuff! 
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on September 29, 2018, 07:18:47 PM
Thanks! I've airbrushed the whole batch now, time for washes and details!
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on September 30, 2018, 09:14:23 PM
An airbrushed group photo. As you can see, i couldn't resist to print more heavies in the weekend:

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/P9300068.jpg)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: grant on September 30, 2018, 09:54:46 PM
If those could be used for hammerís slammers, Iíd be all over them. Thereís a gap right now. Make them hover?
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on October 01, 2018, 07:56:50 AM
I definitely could, but the over-tanks don't fit my taste or style I'm afraid. :(
You're not the first asking for that,though. I might find a solution that i like that does not include tracks nor wheels!

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on October 07, 2018, 05:18:57 PM
A minor update: I figured it was time to spend some time to prepare a proper rendering environment. Now the tanks look a bit fancier. :)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/TanksImg.jpg)

As a bonus, I've spent the weekend in Sofia, Bulgaria. They have an amazing War Museum, and their soviet tanks collections is impressive. Lots of nuclear missile launchers too! :)
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on October 09, 2018, 07:52:30 AM
And... a howitzer is designed. The first prints are done, I'll post more updates once I'll have a few assembled..

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/WhatsApp-Image-2018-10-08-at-23.53.56.jpeg)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Easy E on October 09, 2018, 04:47:35 PM
Very cool designs. 

I really need to get on this 3D Printing and Modelling band wagon.  I feel like I really wasted my time learning how to sculpt (even if it is still a pretty crude level) and should have focused on Sketch-up instead.
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on October 09, 2018, 10:59:46 PM
Very cool designs. 

I really need to get on this 3D Printing and Modelling band wagon.  I feel like I really wasted my time learning how to sculpt (even if it is still a pretty crude level) and should have focused on Sketch-up instead.

In my opinion, 3D modelling is just another tool in the arsenal. I rarely produce masters with out of the printer stuff,as the hand work for weathering and damaging is incomparable. Still, knowing a bit of 3d is indeed useful!
Title: Re: 6mm Tanks
Post by: Sangennaru on October 10, 2018, 07:30:30 AM
Howitzers printed! Six done, three to go. I've got my heavy battery for the Baran Siegemasters. To follow, the gun emplacements! :)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/PA090083.jpg)

C&C welcome!

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 22, 2018, 07:45:02 AM
Adding some infantry to my forces! Models from GZG, bases are custom lasercuts on PETG, with holes drilled to fit the infantry slots and allow a more flat ground.
The bases are larger in area than the standard EPIC ones, but still within the rules. This way I could add some serious terrain and "feel" to each base, which is what is generally lacking entirely from most of the Epic armies.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/44402503_2074519596211585_7748256804554932224_n.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/44587762_338896286675955_5604840761167183872_n.jpg)

I also tested the first base with a simple colour scheme, to go with the rest of my tanks: Green shades with bright red spots. In this scale, having clearly identifiable models is more visually appealing than sheer realism.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/44502968_756745801365046_7817303411769999360_n.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/44504134_185219769069239_7966980646918684672_n.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/44563798_1953800354914657_1534145778212143104_n.jpg)

Looking forward to your comments.

Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: fred on October 22, 2018, 07:54:26 AM
I do like the look of these. I know what you mean about standard sized epic infantry bases, you just about squeeze the models on and that's it. I'm generally liking bigger bases these days, but haven't tried it for epic figures yet.

This may sound weird, but I actually like the unpainted bases more. I think there is more contrast between the figures, the ruins and the bases.  I get what you are trying to do with the painted one, but figures blend to the base colour too much (in my view!). Also the red car probably needs more dirt and rust, if the ruins are so old that there are plants growing over them, then the car needs to look similarly aged.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 22, 2018, 09:03:52 AM
I do like the look of these. I know what you mean about standard sized epic infantry bases, you just about squeeze the models on and that's it. I'm generally liking bigger bases these days, but haven't tried it for epic figures yet.
The rules are quite elastic with the base sizes, i just fear that larger bases could be less effective in game. Considering how little i will play, i don't think it is a problem. :)


This may sound weird, but I actually like the unpainted bases more. I think there is more contrast between the figures, the ruins and the bases.  I get what you are trying to do with the painted one, but figures blend to the base colour too much (in my view!). Also the red car probably needs more dirt and rust, if the ruins are so old that there are plants growing over them, then the car needs to look similarly aged.
I see what you mean: I added the red bright backpacks to have them pop out more, and in flesh they tend to be more visible anyways.
Something that has been pointed out is that i shouldn't have red elements other than the actual figures: if the car was blue (and rusty?), the blending would be reduced, probably. :)


Thank you for the feedback!
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Jagannath on October 22, 2018, 09:11:02 AM
YES!!!!!!!

These look great mate - my preference is bases that size too, I like the sense of movement you can give a squad by model placement. You've done a really ace job here.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: 6milPhil on October 22, 2018, 09:18:45 AM
 8) I like those a great deal.  8)

 I much prefer the diorama approach to basing 6mil, it's a large chunk of real estate to a base so you need more detail rather than less.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 22, 2018, 01:21:28 PM
YES!!!!!!!

These look great mate - my preference is bases that size too, I like the sense of movement you can give a squad by model placement. You've done a really ace job here.

Thanks! :) Ideally larger pieces such as baneblades or mechs will have a lot more on their bases!


8) I like those a great deal.  8)

 I much prefer the diorama approach to basing 6mil, it's a large chunk of real estate to a base so you need more detail rather than less.
Indeed! And it's more fun to paint. Of course, the painting time is likely tripled. But meh.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Dr. The Viking on October 28, 2018, 07:41:49 AM
Very nice designs.  Well done!
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 28, 2018, 11:43:30 AM
Very nice designs.  Well done!

Thank you!

Focusing on the infantry, I managed to complete the first 12 stands.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/PA278254.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/PA278251.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/PA278252.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/PA278253.jpg)

C&C welcome. I'll befocusing on armoured infantry and tanks now.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Tungdil on October 28, 2018, 03:07:30 PM
Amazing. Can't believe this figures are made in 6 mm scale.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: fred on October 28, 2018, 06:57:41 PM
They have come out very well indeed, in these photos the bases look a bit more grey which gives a bit more contrast with the troops.

I think I agree with whomever suggested not having a red car, the ones with the more rusted ones do work better (to me).
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Dr. The Viking on October 29, 2018, 07:28:40 AM
Spectacular!

Looks like a throng of soldiers.
It really demonstrates the benefits of 6mm scale!
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 29, 2018, 03:05:53 PM
Amazing. Can't believe this figures are made in 6 mm scale.
Thanks! They do look nice if you don't get too close! :)

They have come out very well indeed, in these photos the bases look a bit more grey which gives a bit more contrast with the troops.

I think I agree with whomever suggested not having a red car, the ones with the more rusted ones do work better (to me).
Yeah, i didn't want to change colours on the already painted car, but i'll do more sober colors in the next ones from now on!

Spectacular!

Looks like a throng of soldiers.
It really demonstrates the benefits of 6mm scale!
Indeed! :) Thank you Dr!


Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Jagannath on October 29, 2018, 05:54:40 PM
Dude, youíve done a fantastic job here. I love those little old GZG infantry.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 31, 2018, 08:26:56 AM
Dude, youíve done a fantastic job here. I love those little old GZG infantry.

Thanks man! I wonder if i should try RoF with these. Can't wait to see your goodies in play, btw!

Now working on some more infantry bases and two titans. Soon pics!

Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on November 03, 2018, 05:55:45 PM
Cheers everyone

Something while waiting for completed pieces.

I've based titans and some heavier infantry, plus I made a dozen bases for tanks to go with.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/PB018256.jpg)

More soon!

Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Tungdil on November 03, 2018, 06:07:10 PM
Really like your titans and the details like the car or the tank traps, too.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on November 04, 2018, 10:07:56 AM
Nice.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Jagannath on January 14, 2019, 01:20:02 PM
Hadn't seen that last pic - those White Dragon minis work great as biiiig mechs.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on September 07, 2019, 10:06:42 AM
It took me a while to upgrade the SparkMaker with the new screen, and the upgrade itself did not go smoothly. Eventually though, I managed to do some better prints! Still amateurish, but the tanks are sharper than before. :)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/P9079016.jpg)


(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/P9079018.jpg)

I guess now it'd be time to do some more 3D models.

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Macunaima on September 07, 2019, 01:10:49 PM
This is a really sweet little project and I love how all the elements fit together, stylistically! Did you make the titans?
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on September 09, 2019, 08:10:27 AM
This is a really sweet little project and I love how all the elements fit together, stylistically! Did you make the titans?

Thank you!
The titans are "medium" sized mechs from the 15mm White Dragon Miniatures line. Pretty excellent designs.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 13, 2019, 03:25:41 PM
While printing some new stuff (and disperately trying to find some more design ideas for future sculpts), here some excellent Ground Zero Games figures just painted.

For the base colors, i tried mixing a grey contrast paint with some Army Painter black ink. The result was remarkably good!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA139051.jpg)

C&C welcome, hopefully soon with more painted stuff!
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: 6milPhil on October 13, 2019, 04:08:38 PM
What are the GZG flyers (I assume) either side of the tanks?

Might find some further inspiration here: http://roncobb.net/film.html (http://roncobb.net/film.html)

...and if anyone can do THIS in 6mil it's you...
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ea/27/84/ea278454f8c49d9dc0c821e16c495f6b.jpg)
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 13, 2019, 04:15:57 PM
What are the GZG flyers (I assume) either side of the tanks?

I believe these are from this code (no pics, but that matches my order receipt): https://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/6mm-dirtside/future-wars/df-v04.html

I'm now more into small mechs (4-6 meters tall) to sculpt and try to print! :D
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: 6milPhil on October 13, 2019, 05:29:49 PM
Ta, but I got the answer from your FB post...  lol
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 14, 2019, 07:38:59 AM
Fair Enough! :)
 
I should paint a LOT of bases now, i have enough for all my figures three-fold, but it's better to make more and use them later rather than finding yourself trying to replicate a style you don't remember how to do anymore.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: YPU on October 14, 2019, 09:29:33 AM
Glad to see you moving on with this again! And I think we've discussed this before, but army painter stuff, and GW contrast et all seem to get better results the smaller the scale.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 15, 2019, 09:09:44 PM
Yay! slowing getting there.

Meanwhile, just sharing an impressively dense print i manage to do today!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA159057.jpg)

Soon something actual original. Sorry for my recent mildness. :S

Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: fred on October 16, 2019, 06:39:51 AM
That looks very impressive

Interesting that you have printed the tanks and turrets vertically aligned.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 19, 2019, 06:40:02 PM
Two big updates here:

FIRST:

I printed some models from thingyerse (I know, It's not my style, but i can't model EVERYTHING myself), and they look awesome!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA179061.jpg)

With a hand of dark green, they already do the part. The bigger robots have some visible printlines, but will quickly disappear under a second hand of color.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA199077.jpg)

Those bikes, though....

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA199074.jpg)

And infantry ain't bad at all.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA199069.jpg)

You can find the page of the very talented sculptor here: https://www.thingiverse.com/Miffles_Makes/about

SECOND:

I finally based my Ground Zero Games tanks! Half of them, at least, the rest is still awaiting the final painting touches too. I decided to go with full bases to better mix with my infantry (see a few pages ago), and to give them a dynamic look.

I'll let the pictures speak for themselves! :)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA199088.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA199086.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA199083.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA199080.jpg)

C&C welcome, this whole thing is slowing coming toghether!

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Easy E on October 21, 2019, 08:45:20 PM
I love the car on the one base.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 21, 2019, 10:52:00 PM
I love the car on the one base.

Thank you! In fact, there are several of various colors! :)

Meanwhile, some new buildings done, from concepting to model to print to -partial- painting!

First the sketches:
(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/73482693_1731684686967073_8304466541244579840_n.jpg)

and soon after, some models. A lot i've learned from the test print, so the "final" versions will have less problematic printing areas, for once.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/72755561_757412994732146_7348909491242401792_n.png)


... And some prints.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA219091.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA219092.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA219093.jpg)

I started to put some quick paint on the oil tank: let's see how it'll look once completed. For now, only base colors and some weathering.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA219094.jpg)

C&C welcome, updates soon!

Cheers
Jack

Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: fred on October 22, 2019, 06:32:15 AM
Loving it!

The whole being able to come up with an idea, sketch it out, then create the 3D models, then print them, then paint them! A whole bunch of different skills needed, and all executed very well.

Looking forward to seeing the whole shanty town.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 22, 2019, 06:43:09 AM
Loving it!

The whole being able to come up with an idea, sketch it out, then create the 3D models, then print them, then paint them! A whole bunch of different skills needed, and all executed very well.

Looking forward to seeing the whole shanty town.

Thank you! Yeah, when the whole flow works it is some satisfaction.
As for the shanty, it's a project for GameCraft minatures, so there's gonna be some more concepting involved! :)
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: 6milPhil on October 22, 2019, 10:14:06 AM
Those are very nice, what are you outputting them on?
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 22, 2019, 10:19:05 AM
Those are very nice, what are you outputting them on?

Do you mean to release the files? I have no idea yet. For now, i'm mostly doodling for myself. :)
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: 6milPhil on October 22, 2019, 10:41:05 AM
Sorry for not being clear, which printer are you using?  ;)
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 22, 2019, 10:49:14 AM
Ah! A Sparkmaker, a very crappy (as in: it breaks every 2 days, literally) DLP printer. I reckon an Anycubic Photon now would be a much better purchase.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Brandlin on October 22, 2019, 03:53:07 PM
Ah! A Sparkmaker, a very crappy (as in: it breaks every 2 days, literally) DLP printer. I reckon an Anycubic Photon now would be a much better purchase.

Yeah, the Anycubic is a great printer . So is the Elegoo Mars.
But what you are doing with the spark maker is inspirational.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Jagannath on October 22, 2019, 07:32:18 PM
These are fantastic mate. Resin printers are perfect for 6mm, Iíve got so many cool things on the go.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 23, 2019, 07:54:49 AM
These are fantastic mate. Resin printers are perfect for 6mm, Iíve got so many cool things on the go.

Yes, i'm really not sold on 28mm or even 15mm figures, but for 6mm they are just the best solution! :)

More designs and prints tonight... i'd love to do some manual sculpting too, but i need some concrete sculpts to wreck first! ^_^

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 23, 2019, 09:50:56 PM
...and the oil tank is finished!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA239097.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA239099.jpg)


C&C welcome!
Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Brandlin on October 23, 2019, 10:18:56 PM
bloody 'ell !  thats a bit good
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: gamer Mac on October 23, 2019, 10:44:34 PM
Amazing detail :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 24, 2019, 10:40:04 AM
Thank you! :) I might do some more details for the next pieces, but not being self-supporting (the towers and the billboards need a base) i still have to find the best solution! ^^

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Jagannath on October 24, 2019, 06:30:34 PM
Nice job! You always do a great job with turf and flock.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 26, 2019, 11:39:39 AM
Nice job! You always do a great job with turf and flock.

Thanks Jag! =) Yes, I tend to always use the same trick, but it works well. :)
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 28, 2019, 11:36:34 AM
A very simple model i did yesterday evening, and printed in the night. The two parts of the building are indeed separate pieces, but they do stack nicely.
The ladders... are the very reason why 3D printing has a sense: making stuff that cannot be casted.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/WhatsApp-Image-2019-10-28-at-11.33.01.jpeg)
(apology for the crappy picture, better ones will follow!

Seriously, if i had to make a larger terrain piece, i'll make a mold for the whole buildings, printing only the thin and uncastable parts.
Considering to make a KS with all these files, and more.

Cheers,
jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Jagannath on October 28, 2019, 12:35:40 PM
These are very cool! I'd be well up for a kickstarter of your stuff.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 28, 2019, 01:25:15 PM
Thanks, I've got a lot of concepts that could be done. Each needs some printing iterations to fine-tune the details and parts, but that is not impossible. I'm more worried about the bureaucracy and the fiscal issues, especially being based in Italy.

Anyways, more to come! ^_^
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on October 29, 2019, 07:15:15 PM
Some more pictures, and a finished version of the building above!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA299100.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA299101.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA299103.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA299107.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/PA299105.jpg)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: sundayhero on October 29, 2019, 08:48:46 PM
Can't wait to see it painted !
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Jagannath on October 30, 2019, 06:44:19 PM
Beautiful. Those are really nice.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Suber on November 02, 2019, 09:26:54 PM
This whole thread is pure love :-* :-*
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Splod on November 02, 2019, 11:42:05 PM
That is fantastic! I'd happily have that most recent piece on my table  :)
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on November 03, 2019, 10:25:09 AM
Thank you all! It'll be a few weeks wait, since I'm now in chengdu and headed for the sichuan's tibet. By the end of November i will have the model painted, and hopefully many more in my concepts book. Yeah, I did start one! :)
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 07, 2019, 02:58:23 PM
Back from Tibet! I indeed worked on several new concepts, but for now i'm just back to some painting.

I grabbed one contrast color (now i have two!) for the yellow, and tried it on my last batches of printed tanks. Compared to the previous versions, the new printer screen allows a higher definition, and that is reflected on the printed shapes and the effect of washes on them.

All in all, the resulting effect is pretty good.
For this first piece, i tried to highlight the edges on one side of the model. The effect was good, but it took far too much time.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/OrangeTank.jpg)

I've already done a few more iterations, i'll post some more results once i'll have found my final workflow!
C&C welcome!

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: fred on December 08, 2019, 05:06:39 PM
Nice. The edge highlighting certainly lifts the model - can you do a quicker version with a dry brush along the corner of the hulll?
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 08, 2019, 11:47:05 PM
Nice. The edge highlighting certainly lifts the model - can you do a quicker version with a dry brush along the corner of the hulll?

I've been experimenting more to cut off the times - for this project, i really don't want to spend time in detailing, i just want to add the two base colors for the details and then work with global effects (washes and drybrushes)

Right now i've reached this:

- grey-white airbrush
- Contrast (Iyander yellow)
- drybrush(wetbrush almost) of warcolours "yellow 4" (warcolours are eccellent glazes!), twice, until fully saturated.
- white drybrush, very light, to highlight the edges and desaturate a bit.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC090001.jpg)

The result is pretty great imho, and it took me about 50 minutes for the 12 tanks. I reckon i could finish them entirely in about 2 extra hours, if not less.
And i'm quite happy with the tank designs too: the details really pop out!

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Jagannath on December 09, 2019, 07:48:28 AM
Yeah thatís really effective! I always do one last spot highlight, literally dots just on the corners, which helps them pop. These look fantastic though - I really think 6mm is a great place for contrast.

Any more thoughts on a Kickstarter for those buildings?
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 09, 2019, 11:20:29 AM
Yeah thatís really effective! I always do one last spot highlight, literally dots just on the corners, which helps them pop. These look fantastic though - I really think 6mm is a great place for contrast.

Any more thoughts on a Kickstarter for those buildings?

Thanks! Yes, highlighting might work (and i might consider doing that ) but takes time, and i want to have the best result with "global" actions such as washes and drybrushes. I'll add more details tonight, we'll see where this goes.

As for the buildings: for now i'm still gathering concepts. And I still have to figure out the legal aspects of this. Worst case scenario, i will sell the files to a company.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 09, 2019, 07:45:36 PM
A  first completed test model, with the yellow - black (dark blue) "hyperion" theme.
Pretty happy considering the time involved.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/IFV.jpg)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: YPU on December 10, 2019, 07:28:52 AM
That came out looking extremely clean and sharp considering the "fast paint" method!
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Jagannath on December 10, 2019, 01:18:45 PM
Fantastic job - they dark detailing really makes the yellow look so clean.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Grumbledook on December 10, 2019, 08:48:49 PM
Oooooooh my! One of the nice things about being away for a bit is seeing a fully fledged thread like this, packed full of exciting work!

Love the development of the buildings and the paint work is very effective indeed!
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 12, 2019, 11:22:13 PM
Thank you all!
I've started painting the main battle tanks (i've got 15 on the workbench) with the very same colour scheme. Meanwhile i've done a simple sketch for some infantry i'd love to sculpt soon.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/HeavySoheiConcept.jpg)

The long skirt is pretty useful when you're printing in 6mm: the ankles tend to be the weak point, and below the skirt you can add additional supports for the minis during play without being noticeable.

let's see how difficult it will be to model these.

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 15, 2019, 04:59:37 PM
Aaand... the first infantry pieces are done! Not good enough, but being the first time printing my own infantry, i had a lot to gauge!

That said, the real "star" of the printing were the bipedal robots i modelled a few years ago: they never saw the light, but now i can finally have them in hand!

and... I have to say, they do look great!
(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC150013.jpg)

C&C welcome, new ideas are always precious!


Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on December 15, 2019, 06:46:37 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Jagannath on December 15, 2019, 06:47:15 PM
Wow! Those walkers are fantastic! For the infantry, looks like they're maybe a little too 'realistically' proportioned?
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 15, 2019, 07:27:08 PM
Thank you!
The walkers are still missing the legs: i've put just volume blocks, but they have to be modelled entirely.
Also, for 6mm i will need to re-do some details, probably.

As for the infantry: yes, i've doubled the head (almost) and changed some other proportions. Now they do look better, and i've got some being printed as we speak!

Updates soon, hopefully! :)

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 15, 2019, 10:30:35 PM
Well, here comes the update:

I painted one of the mechs. The print lines are ...inadequate for me, but that's due to the bad alignment of the model on the bed (a lot of pixel showing due to slightly diagonal faces!). I will cut it in parts and print it properly, so next models will be better!

Here are the pictures anyways:


(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC150018.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC150020.jpg)


Soon with better mechs, hopefully!

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: madman on December 16, 2019, 12:56:13 AM
If you are re-doing the infantry with bigger heads anyways what about more life to their poses? Have a bit of bent leg and aiming weapons, maybe crouching. I doubt prone and not knowing their intended weapons I can't comment on heavy weapons poses. The figure standing akimbo makes no sense to me, unless it is somehow posable after manufacture.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 16, 2019, 07:32:47 AM
If you are re-doing the infantry with bigger heads anyways what about more life to their poses? Have a bit of bent leg and aiming weapons, maybe crouching. I doubt prone and not knowing their intended weapons I can't comment on heavy weapons poses. The figure standing akimbo makes no sense to me, unless it is somehow posable after manufacture.

The akimbo figure is the "t-pose" which is the way it's sculpted. I am now only testing proportions, the proper posing will come later! And yeah, it will be far more dynamic! :D
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: YPU on December 16, 2019, 01:31:49 PM
The robots are fantastic!
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Jagannath on December 16, 2019, 01:37:41 PM
You're smashing it here dude. I need to pick up my 6mm projects.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: 6milPhil on December 16, 2019, 02:51:45 PM
Those robots are great.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: madman on December 16, 2019, 05:26:36 PM
The akimbo figure is the "t-pose" which is the way it's sculpted. I am now only testing proportions, the proper posing will come later! And yeah, it will be far more dynamic! :D

I am ignorant of 3D sculpting. Personally I really like the infantry figures more than the giant robots but that is my preference for troops in 6mm. They really have detail at that scale. Great work.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Grumbledook on December 17, 2019, 12:04:41 AM
Ahhhh, those walkers are very cool indeed and look to be a good size. I like the concept art for the infantry and, if I was to go on a personal preference, the prints look a bit less chunky than the sketches..... but hey.... sci fi and all!

Great stuff.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 17, 2019, 08:44:44 AM
Thank you all!
I will try to finish the robots in the weekend! Splitting them in parts will  complicate the assembly (there is none, right now) but will result in much cleaner surfaces!!

I am ignorant of 3D sculpting. Personally I really like the infantry figures more than the giant robots but that is my preference for troops in 6mm. They really have detail at that scale. Great work.

Ahhhh, those walkers are very cool indeed and look to be a good size. I like the concept art for the infantry and, if I was to go on a personal preference, the prints look a bit less chunky than the sketches..... but hey.... sci fi and all!

Great stuff.

Thanks!
Regarding the infantry, it will need several print iterations to get it right (even before posing), since it's a first for me. the chunkyness is required to prevent breaking them (of the first print, about 40% broke before placing it in position, and now i'm finding ways to make them more robust.

Once i've gauged the proper details scale, i'll start with variations and posing. In truth, the harder part is still to come, since i will have to "sculpt" the soft parts (skirt and other cloth) after posing. We'll see.

Updates soon!

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Daniel36 on December 17, 2019, 10:46:49 AM
Your models are pure joy! I love them!
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: madman on December 17, 2019, 12:05:50 PM

Thanks!
Regarding the infantry, it will need several print iterations to get it right (even before posing), since it's a first for me. the chunkyness is required to prevent breaking them (of the first print, about 40% broke before placing it in position, and now i'm finding ways to make them more robust.

Once i've gauged the proper details scale, i'll start with variations and posing. In truth, the harder part is still to come, since i will have to "sculpt" the soft parts (skirt and other cloth) after posing. We'll see.

Updates soon!

Cheers,
Jack

That makes a lot of sense. You have both a new medium as well as new subject matter. Other than not touching during creation of the physical entity sounds just like regular art work. Thank you for taking the time to inform us. It really helps seeing into the mind involved.

ps I still love your Inktober work from a few years ago.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 17, 2019, 01:24:48 PM
Your models are pure joy! I love them!
Thank you! I'll tell my robots!

That makes a lot of sense. You have both a new medium as well as new subject matter. Other than not touching during creation of the physical entity sounds just like regular art work. Thank you for taking the time to inform us. It really helps seeing into the mind involved.

ps I still love your Inktober work from a few years ago.
Cheers! I like to keep this thread for that precise reason, happy to be of any interest!
The inktober.... that was some fun stuff! :3
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 17, 2019, 11:14:57 PM
New iteration of the infantry come out a bit better. The bottom half of the figure is still ways too stiff, but at least they are solid now and don't break. :D

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC170026.jpg)

C&C welcome!
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: madman on December 18, 2019, 01:41:06 AM
Now there is more life in the figures on the left. My thoughts were to put a connection between the legs all the way to the base and another web between the legs and the "skirt" or the between leg web and the skirt in order to strengthen things. Personally a solid web between the legs and the skirt which occupies 50% or so of the cross sectional area would be very acceptable and may be needed to cast these figures.

Assuming these are masters would you cast the "infantry" in resin or metal?
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 18, 2019, 08:10:27 AM
I already added a block between the feet, so that they are far more stable once based!

However, my goal is not to cast them: I see people 3D print a lot, but while often they don't cast their pieces, their geometries are always simple. By aiming at people with printers, i want to make designs that have intricate enough undercuts to be impossible to cast instead. Look at these shields: these are what give the infantry their tridimensionality. And that's a huge difference and the only true advantage compared to lead!

Let's use our tools at their full! :D

Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 19, 2019, 09:36:04 PM
First paint on the infantry. As above, most of it is still to be sculpted, but i wanted to see how the effect was at this stage. Pretty good, i'd say.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC190030.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC190032.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC190034.jpg)

C&C welcome, do share any suggestion!

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 21, 2019, 08:05:45 PM
And I've COMPLETED the first walker bot (as in, without optional loadouts or armor!).
And - I dare to say - the result is pretty solid!

Pics below:

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC210045.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC210037.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC210039.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC210036.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC210041.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC210040.jpg)

And i've got a gif too, which i'm not sure it'll work:

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/RotatingRobots.gif)

Anyways, a lot of mods will have to follow this, and possibly some other variants too. This is a great success anyways, both for the printer (i wasn't sure it could handle this) and for me.
Comments and critics are welcome, always interested in improving the line!

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: fred on December 21, 2019, 08:43:04 PM
They look great. Really crisp, and detailed looking, can't see any banding from the printing.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 21, 2019, 11:22:23 PM
There are some slight banding on the bodies, and some nasty ones on the sides of the legs. But totally acceptable, IMHO. :)
A better printing would have done a better job, but all things considered i think that the latest iteration solved most of the issues!

Now trying to print some stuff in 15mm too! :)
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Jagannath on December 21, 2019, 11:35:34 PM
Those are fantastic mate, really nice. Canít wait to see what you do with them.

Thereís not enough mecha that size for 6mm.

How are you going to base them?
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 22, 2019, 09:19:38 AM
I will do more sketches today for upgrades... It's gonna be tough!

As for basing, no idea for now! I'm not even sure they'll be im the same team of the main battle tanks. For now it's mostly a bunch of different designs!
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 22, 2019, 04:20:51 PM
Some more pics of the beds (i've printed a second one!) and of the unassembled robot.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC220048.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC220046.jpg)

That's a vitruvian robot:

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC220054.jpg)
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 23, 2019, 05:20:52 PM
Looks like we've got heavy artillery, rockets and chainsaws. Not sure about that last one, but it was fun to sculpt! :D

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC230069.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC230077.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC230073.jpg)

As always, C&C welcome!
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: gamer Mac on December 23, 2019, 11:49:29 PM
loving the animation in these small fellas :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 24, 2019, 09:33:27 AM
loving the animation in these small fellas :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Thanks! That was one of my goals, and i think that part is a success! :)

at everyone? Ideas for a name? I'd like some interesting acronym (which has a meaning) or just a nice name!


Thanks,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Paratrooper 42 on December 24, 2019, 09:53:41 AM
I've never really considered 6mm Sci-Fi, but seeing what you are doing it's very tempting to take the plunge.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 24, 2019, 09:58:00 AM
I've never really considered 6mm Sci-Fi, but seeing what you are doing it's very tempting to take the plunge.

Happy to be of inspiration! :D

Printers work well for this scale (better than with 15mm or 28mm), and metal is reasonably cheap too! :D
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: zrunelord on December 25, 2019, 07:40:04 AM
Very nice 3d work my friend.
Love the way you grouped them in the print job.

Names? How about .....

JACK - Jackal or SCAR - Scarafaggio ( bug ) + numbers to denote models would sound nice.

Wonder how they would look next to  15mm mini?

And all the best to all for Christmas, may you have peace & health.

Keep it up
Z
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 25, 2019, 10:30:31 AM
Thank you! :) The print bed is small, i had to do some tetris. Of course it'd be more efficient to print only legs in one bed, then only bodies and so forth. We'll see. :)

Jack would be a bit self-referenced (i'm jack!), scar could work. Maybe not enough buggy for that? Numbers - definitely a good option!
I'll try to take a 15mm shot, although i'd print it at 250% for that purpose instead!

Likewise, all the best to y'all!!

Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: zrunelord on December 25, 2019, 10:56:59 AM
You go by many names  ;)
I was thinking about the armour plates that's why Scarafaggio
or perhaps Testudo/ testudine.You can also consider doing some
With large rectangular shields.

Quote
I'll try to take a 15mm shot, although i'd print it at 250% for that purpose instead!
Wow that's a lot.
That would be great. Getting the feel from a picture of the
Mini size would be nice.

Thanks
Z
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 25, 2019, 07:44:33 PM
You go by many names  ;)
I was thinking about the armour plates that's why Scarafaggio
or perhaps Testudo/ testudine.You can also consider doing some
With large rectangular shields.
Wow that's a lot.
That would be great. Getting the feel from a picture of the
Mini size would be nice.

Thanks
Z

Here is the 15mm comparison shot! :)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC250081.jpg)

While i was at it, i did take a shot of the 15mm APC (or IFV?) that i upscaled 250% for 15mm figures too. It might be a bit underdetailed, but it's definitely good!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC250082.jpg)


As for the naming, it might be fun to have a range of names of animals all from the same geographic areas.
Like marsupials (Wombat, Quokka, Wallaby, and so forth), or crostaceans!


C&C welcome, and happy christmas to you too!
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: zrunelord on December 25, 2019, 10:08:28 PM
Thanks for the comparison pic.

The vehicle looks nice & they are all ideal for 15mm also
Lack of detail is not a big deal at that scale.

Naming conventions depend on where you plan the users
to be from.. for e.g. their culture, language etc. Or general shape vehicle.

Keep it up
Z

Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 27, 2019, 12:55:42 PM
...and a brand new bot (a smaller recon one) is done and printed!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC270088.jpg)

Pretty happy with this one, and fun to have as a sidekick of the bigger ones!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC270083.jpg)


Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: gamer Mac on December 27, 2019, 02:15:12 PM
Thats cute :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 27, 2019, 03:59:08 PM
Better cuteness in pictures now!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC270093.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC270091.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC270092.jpg)

Lightly armoured, mostly recon and scouting, smaller profile for enemy weapons. And unbereably cute!

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on December 27, 2019, 04:52:48 PM
And unbereably cute!
Very cute.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: zrunelord on December 27, 2019, 05:05:38 PM
Lovely work my friend. :D

These remind of flightless birds...
You built them in sketchup?

Z
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 27, 2019, 05:08:45 PM
Lovely work my friend. 👍👍👍👍
These remind of flightless birds...
You built them in sketchup?

Z

That was the plan! Maybe Kiwi? Or Cassowary, where the Kiwi will be even smaller robots i will use with infantry! :D

Yes, I mostly use sketchup for mech design. It's incredibly immediate compared to pretty much all the other software, and i've been using it since forever so i'm pretty fast with that. :)
Having a concept drawing beforehand helps a lot too, of course. :)
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: zrunelord on December 28, 2019, 07:04:12 AM
I have so many concept drawings that I dream would become Real models some day & sketchup might be the way to go.
A good idea would be to have basic scifi greebles in sketchup format one can use .
Fans, wheels, mecha legs , bits & pieces etc.

Thanks again for the great ideas.
Z
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on December 30, 2019, 11:19:24 PM
I have so many concept drawings that I dream would become Real models some day & sketchup might be the way to go.
A good idea would be to have basic scifi greebles in sketchup format one can use .
Fans, wheels, mecha legs , bits & pieces etc.

Thanks again for the great ideas.
Z

Oh, please do try making some! Or share the concepts, if you don't mind me peeking at them!

Meanwhile, I printed the new bots in 15mm. The scale comparison looks remarkably cute.
(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/PC300109.jpg)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: zrunelord on January 03, 2020, 03:33:39 PM
Hello again my friend,
did not forget your request.

Look here
https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2020/01/concept-drawings.html (https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2020/01/concept-drawings.html)

and just a taster...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LKtm0PHlZYo/Xg9dHqI2xEI/AAAAAAAAOU4/R2zCKuhXJVYYXeQTw5QqiEUapfrIQdhkwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Concept%2B%25286%2529.jpg)

Z
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on January 13, 2020, 01:26:30 PM
Hello again my friend,
did not forget your request.

Look here
https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2020/01/concept-drawings.html (https://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2020/01/concept-drawings.html)

and just a taster...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LKtm0PHlZYo/Xg9dHqI2xEI/AAAAAAAAOU4/R2zCKuhXJVYYXeQTw5QqiEUapfrIQdhkwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Concept%2B%25286%2529.jpg)

Z

This is pretty awesome! a LOT of stuff going on there! I don't know how i missed this last week!
We'll talk more, always interested in cool designs!


Meanwhile, something not much military, but cool nonetheless. Mining equipment. Planning a full set in the few weeks, if i'll find the time.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/81950333_505467833415069_8221257360975331328_n.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/81840754_466108987396642_2268334024730607616_n.jpg)

C&C welcome, as always

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: zrunelord on January 13, 2020, 02:44:03 PM
 Thanks  :D
More stuff here
http://castrarunis.blogspot.com/2020/01/concept-drawings.html?m=1

That mining rig looks great... can be used for 6mm necromunda also ....

You can do panels , bridges, bulkheads etc
Basically square building blocks.



Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on January 23, 2020, 11:57:52 AM
Just leaving this here.
Still WIP, proper pictures tonight or possibly in the weekend!

The main body is hand-made. An XPS form poured in plaster.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/83006370_2663898843659020_222024928457654272_o.jpg)

From there, i started decorating!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/82867471_580343409489277_7990882255885041664_n.jpg)

The house - you have already seen it. The silos are new though.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/83254266_566531624275524_6107892727016325120_n.jpg)

Printing right now some more additions to it. A bit of manual detailing (hand-sculpted) will follow.

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: gamer Mac on January 23, 2020, 12:02:52 PM
WOW  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Loving the detail
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Calimero on January 23, 2020, 12:11:15 PM

That's FANTASTIC work!!!  :-* 8) :-*
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Jagannath on January 23, 2020, 12:25:56 PM
Dude - that's incredible.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on January 23, 2020, 01:22:45 PM
Thank you all! I can't wait to get back home tonight and add the remaining details on it!

Now i REALLY have to find a badass way to make ladders in concrete. All the solutions so far are less than optimal. :(
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on January 23, 2020, 08:11:12 PM
AAAnd... here we are with the completed piece.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/P1230140.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/P1230141.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/P1230142.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/P1230143.jpg)

All the details added. Some parts are removable for easier painting, but all will be glued in place eventually!

C&C welcome!

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on January 23, 2020, 08:54:50 PM
Excellent.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on January 24, 2020, 06:38:13 PM
Thanks! Hopefully more to come
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: madman on January 24, 2020, 09:58:23 PM
Excellent. I like the "been attacked" look to everything. It has been under fire but not overdone which is too easy to do.

I am curious about the black (dark) car. It has the look of generic 1960s to early '70s. Is that one of your doing, a metal casting or?? In any case a bunch of them for some imaginations back water location would do great. Thank you.
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on January 25, 2020, 09:45:05 AM
Excellent. I like the "been attacked" look to everything. It has been under fire but not overdone which is too easy to do.

I am curious about the black (dark) car. It has the look of generic 1960s to early '70s. Is that one of your doing, a metal casting or?? In any case a bunch of them for some imaginations back water location would do great. Thank you.

Thank you! Yes, the damage in 6mm is easily brought to the "heavy armor attack" point which is too much. In fact, most of the "light" dents should represent the damage concrete gets just by being there. No weapon, just machinery moving and making mistakes over the years.
As for the damages on the railings: i realized some of the parts were too thin, and they broke when i was cleaning the silos. I guess i used that to my advantage.

The car is something i made about a year ago, and was modelled following the design of the Trabant. Ended up more like a Lada, which is pretty similar anyways. :)
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on January 30, 2020, 11:53:03 AM
Just a quick update regarding the terrain. I made containers (the ones included in the piece in the last page - but improved a bit) and i'm now casting several in resin. Ideally, the next step terrain-wise would be to make a containers field!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/82936353_218628089158350_8009463903610208256_n.jpg)

More juicy stuff after the weekend, hopefully!
Title: Re: 6mm SciFi Army
Post by: Sangennaru on February 01, 2020, 11:26:30 PM
Just to keep on with the terrain stuff, here's a second block of industrial silos.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/P2010115.jpg)

The building in there is from a kit sold by Vanguard Miniatures that I sculpted a few years ago. I'm glad I can finally put the pieces to some use now!
Other than that, pretty standard aliexpress light poles and cars, and everything else done by myself!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/P2010110.jpg)

C&C welcome, do post your ideas for the next pieces!

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: pixelgeek on February 01, 2020, 11:50:28 PM
That is beyond incredible  :o
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: gamer Mac on February 02, 2020, 12:10:54 AM
Very nice work :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on February 02, 2020, 09:06:09 AM
Excellent.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on February 02, 2020, 08:57:52 PM
Thank you all! :)

I just need to find the strength to make some more fencing and additional details for the next pieces!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on February 24, 2020, 08:20:55 PM
Aaaaand... something big is now ready!
Starting from the usual plaster block, i used a set from Vanguard Miniatures that I sculpted a few years ago and detailed it with loads of new printed pieces and such.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/P2240173.jpg)

Here some "skyline shots"

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/P2240200.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/P2240182.jpg)

...and some top views as well.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/P2240197.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/P2240186.jpg)

Some details:

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/P2230159.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/P2230164.jpg)

C&C welcome, and if you have suggestions, do shoot!
Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Commander Roj on February 24, 2020, 09:57:00 PM
Astonished! My meagre, tardy efforts pale by comparison.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: gamer Mac on February 24, 2020, 10:08:00 PM
Cracking work :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
when can we see some paint?
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on February 24, 2020, 11:33:25 PM
Astonished! My meagre, tardy efforts pale by comparison.

Don't despair! it's mostly a matter of composition, putting the stuff in the position that looks best! :)

Cracking work :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
when can we see some paint?

erm... do you have a backup question?
Seriously though, UV resin tends to crumble if left to the light for too long, so that's a good motivation to start painting them soon!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: von Lucky on February 25, 2020, 02:11:59 AM
Urgh - I never commented so I could follow this thread. Some expertly crafted stuff here - well done. Will now follow with interest!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on February 25, 2020, 09:30:22 AM
Urgh - I never commented so I could follow this thread. Some expertly crafted stuff here - well done. Will now follow with interest!

Thank you! :)

I think it might be time to put some paint on these.
When i finish a bunch of commissions i might also start working back with the robots too!

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on February 25, 2020, 09:50:56 PM
Excellent.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: YPU on February 25, 2020, 10:28:42 PM
Indeed, literally some of the best 6mm terain I have ever seen, and its not even done yet!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on February 26, 2020, 09:32:26 PM
Very kind words, thank you!

Meanwhile, i primed the pieces and took some more blend-in photos. I'm just delaying the painting, i know.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/DSC06115.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/DSC06116.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/DSC06132.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/DSC06131.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/DSC06126.jpg)

A couple of believable configurations of the three pieces i've done so far:

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/DSC06125.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/DSC06117.jpg)

And finally, a top view:

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/DSC06133.jpg)

C&C welcome,
Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: aliensurfer on February 26, 2020, 11:33:02 PM
wow  :o
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Darathar on February 27, 2020, 02:15:17 AM
Amazing!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on February 27, 2020, 08:07:05 AM
They are amazing.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on February 27, 2020, 08:36:24 AM
Cheers, thank you all! Unfortunately the rattle can had a bit of droplets left here and there. With the following airbrush layers it should all fade away, but still pretty unsettling!

More pictures when i'll manage to put some paint on this! :)

I might work on more terrain or - who knows - another robot thingy too!

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: von Lucky on February 27, 2020, 09:22:23 AM
I still can't believe the scale.

But I'm with the others - amazing that you finally undercoated them lol
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on February 27, 2020, 10:20:32 PM
I still can't believe the scale.

But I'm with the others - amazing that you finally undercoated them lol

Hah! I should take pictures with a model or a coin to give a beetter perspective, yes! :)

I hope to put some basecoats with an airbrush this weekend! Depending on how full with other stuff to do I'll be! :)

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: precinctomega on February 29, 2020, 06:30:36 PM
I was going to ask this on Facebook, but seeing as I'm here...

This stuff looks gorgeous, obviously.  But it does strike me as being almost unplayable, because there's no room to place based miniatures on it without having to place on top of your lovely design work.

Do you intend it to be on a gaming table, or is it purely a modelling project for your own entertainment?
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on February 29, 2020, 10:53:47 PM
I was going to ask this on Facebook, but seeing as I'm here...

This stuff looks gorgeous, obviously.  But it does strike me as being almost unplayable, because there's no room to place based miniatures on it without having to place on top of your lovely design work.

Do you intend it to be on a gaming table, or is it purely a modelling project for your own entertainment?

Thanks! :) Well, the problem is Epic Armageddon related: In there units move in pretty large formations (although i'm hoping to find a way to trim the sizes down), so "cityfight" is not a thing anyways. At that point, there are types of terrain that count as passable for infantry and not tanks, but they still require large areas to move the numerous bases.

At that point, i'm considering these pieces as "impassable terrain", or objectives. Conversely, i'll have rubbles areas, or containers fields for playable terrain.
For skirmish gaming i go 28mm anyways! :)

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: FramFramson on March 20, 2020, 05:03:32 PM
Thanks! :) Well, the problem is Epic Armageddon related: In there units move in pretty large formations (although i'm hoping to find a way to trim the sizes down), so "cityfight" is not a thing anyways. At that point, there are types of terrain that count as passable for infantry and not tanks, but they still require large areas to move the numerous bases.

At that point, i'm considering these pieces as "impassable terrain", or objectives. Conversely, i'll have rubbles areas, or containers fields for playable terrain.
For skirmish gaming i go 28mm anyways! :)

Cheers,
Jack

It's nice to see that with forethought, you've still left enough open space should you end up re-using these for a game with smaller model bases and that that space would be multilevelled and highly interactive.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Splod on March 20, 2020, 10:35:58 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

Talented git  :D
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 26, 2020, 05:30:33 PM
Ok, definitely NOT scifi, but since it's indeed a test for future scifi figures, i'm gonna post this here:
I managed to sculpt a human figure, rig it and make a few poses for it.

Then i made some VERY BASIC armor and details, and BOOM, i got over-detailed 6mm figures.
I am quite confident that by adding the proper details you could go very far with this approach.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/94195962_579475082662837_431767672082923520_n.png)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/94423828_1661393257333739_8966150401162215424_n.png)

And then I printed some. The detail is more than enough. I was in particular interested in quick ink-painting, so the parts had to be defined and separated enough:

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/P4260120.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/P4260306.jpg)

Since it was a first test i posed them BEFORE painting, which is not optimal.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-admin/upload.php?item=2169)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/P4260313.jpg)

Scale Comparison:

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/P4260316.jpg)

and, after 30 minutes of painting, with almost base colors and washes only, here they are!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/P4260126.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/P4260124.jpg)


Long story short: now i know how to make warboys for my Mad Max dune buggies! Or marines sitting on the side of my tanks!

C&C welcome. Seriously, any trick to improve is well appreciated!

Cheers,
Jack

Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: zrunelord on April 26, 2020, 09:23:06 PM
Wow.....
6mm magic .... :o

They're great as they are
Keep it up
Z
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: aliensurfer on April 26, 2020, 10:04:09 PM
Wow  :o
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: gamer Mac on April 26, 2020, 10:18:25 PM
WOW Great work
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Jagannath on April 27, 2020, 08:18:06 AM
Nice work dude - I just couldn't get Blender to click. I was hoping to spend some of lockdown learning Zbrush, but I've been busier than ever! (Which I should be thankful for). Hope you're staying safe pal.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 27, 2020, 08:42:09 AM
Wow.....
6mm magic .... :o

They're great as they are
Keep it up
Z

Thank you Z! :D

Wow  :o

WOW Great work

Cheers, and thanks for the WOWs! If i'll make more models (i'm already making some) i'll probably open a different thread for the fantasy stuff... :D

Nice work dude - I just couldn't get Blender to click. I was hoping to spend some of lockdown learning Zbrush, but I've been busier than ever! (Which I should be thankful for). Hope you're staying safe pal.

You too Jag!
Blender is really powerful, and while not the best for anything is good enough for a lot of stuff, and has EVERYTHING available. Also, free.
For this kind of project i basically made a simple human shape, with the sculpt tool i shaped it, and then i added some hard surface elements (which i'd rather do in Sketchup, but for 6mm these are simple enough to be made in Blender.
Posing, however, is a true pleasure, once you get a few silly rules to follow! :)
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 27, 2020, 05:09:48 PM
Ok, just one more picture, i'll then post the full medieval project on another thread.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/P4270129.jpg)

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 28, 2020, 07:41:18 AM
...and I made a dedicated thread for these now.
Come and say hi!
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=124219
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on May 13, 2020, 10:23:32 AM
Well, after the fantasy diversion (we have a store on mmf, do check it out! https://www.myminifactory.com/users/TheLazyForger )

I am back experimenting with 6mm modern-scifi.

with ZOMBIES!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/96727356_699199414248427_6231399665573560320_n.png)

Not any zombie, a horde of them. I've joined 20-something of them in a single piece, which will be printed as almost-self-supported, since most of the zs limbs will be touching another fellow undead.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/97816732_532439754116109_4926905586815074304_n.png)

Printing them as we speak, we'll see about the outcome!

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Grumbledook on May 13, 2020, 11:36:06 AM
Absolutely fabulous..... all of it!

The figures are great and I particularly like the ruins, perfect for my 6mm fantasy project. No 3D printer though, boooooo.

Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on May 13, 2020, 11:51:05 AM
Absolutely fabulous..... all of it!

The figures are great and I particularly like the ruins, perfect for my 6mm fantasy project. No 3D printer though, boooooo.

Thank you man!

For 6mm a resin printer is particularly useful, yes! Are you sure you don't have any fellow modeler nearby for that?
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on May 13, 2020, 04:56:32 PM
Some zombies printed!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/P5130328.jpg)

Meant as a single piece, all the limbs are connected so that the amount of supports is reduced to a minimum.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/P5130331.jpg)

Here a scale comparison!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/P5130335.jpg)

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: zrunelord on May 13, 2020, 04:59:13 PM
Splendid Idea, reducing the amount of supports by a lot... and less cleaning up also.

Z
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on May 15, 2020, 09:49:36 AM
Splendid Idea, reducing the amount of supports by a lot... and less cleaning up also.

Z

I still gotta try printing them. For zombies it will likely be fine, but with more detailed kinds of troops it is not feasible, probably!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: zrunelord on May 15, 2020, 10:30:15 AM
But for horde armies it is a great idea.
Imagine hordes of nids , like ripper swarms.
It reminds of some of the Warmaster minis which were moulded as a one piece strip.

Z
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on September 09, 2020, 07:54:20 PM
Weeelll... the fantasy range took a toll, and drawing commissions and all required some more of my time:

- The fantasy models got painted, and published on a MyMiniFactory store (https://www.myminifactory.com/users/TheLazyForger)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/DSC06562.jpg)

- Some 28mm fantasy models appeared (also on the MMF store)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P7030452.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P7260503.jpg)

Aaand yet, i managed to re-do the supports for the walkers (at least, i begun that) and I printed the shanties!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9090538.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9090524.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9090540.jpg)

Aaand... that's all for now, but i'm planning to work a lot more on this in the near future!

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: aliensurfer on September 14, 2020, 10:54:48 PM
Really nice stuff  :)
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on September 20, 2020, 10:00:58 PM
More shots of the shanties and robots (with an added water tank!):

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9200591.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9200602.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9200603.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9200606.jpg)

And a closeup of the new buildings Feo recently modelled.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9200597.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9200595.jpg)

They'll be soon for sale at GameCraftMiniatures, and for sale as STL files in our MMF shop tomorrow, together with the shanties!

Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: gamer Mac on September 20, 2020, 10:25:47 PM
Lovely detail :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: clanmac on September 20, 2020, 10:56:44 PM
These are ridiculously good
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Cacique Caribe on September 21, 2020, 06:52:49 AM
Amazing detail!

Dan
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Jagannath on September 21, 2020, 08:17:14 AM
OOh these will come in very handy, glad you're releasing STLs!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Splod on September 21, 2020, 09:17:20 AM
Those buildings are fantastic! I can't wait to grab some to go with my shanties you did for Gregster's Lab many moons ago  :D
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Steam Flunky on September 21, 2020, 10:04:44 AM
I cannot understand how anyone cannot like 6mm after they see this.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: YPU on September 21, 2020, 10:35:59 AM
The shanties were great already, but adding those high-rises really sell it though!

I cannot understand how anyone cannot like 6mm after they see this.

Hear hear!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on September 21, 2020, 12:41:43 PM
Thank you all! :) :)
The two sets are now online at https://www.myminifactory.com/users/TheLazyForger/collection/battlefields-of-tomorrow - do check that out!!!

OOh these will come in very handy, glad you're releasing STLs!
Those buildings are fantastic! I can't wait to grab some to go with my shanties you did for Gregster's Lab many moons ago  :D

Here it is, LAFers! :) :) Really curious to see them in use, especially with the Gregster's shanties! I should experiment mixing them together too, since i've got a few casts of those too!

I cannot understand how anyone cannot like 6mm after they see this.
I know! That's just such a cute scale!!!

The shanties were great already, but adding those high-rises really sell it though!

I concur! Feo's work was really well balanced and the two sets together now work like a charm!


Again, thank you all, and check the store if you fancy grabbing some STLs: https://www.myminifactory.com/users/TheLazyForger/collection/battlefields-of-tomorrow

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Commander Roj on September 21, 2020, 02:57:10 PM
They really do look astonishingly good!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on September 21, 2020, 03:49:07 PM
Thanks!

As an extra, here's a tiny sweet diorama made by MŠrcio P. P. Nicolai on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/995116487298484/permalink/2200718410071613

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/120070318_10221281334479705_8834042543577817301_o.jpg)

Cheers, soon with new updates!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: aliensurfer on September 21, 2020, 10:39:40 PM
Stunning.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Andym on September 23, 2020, 08:57:19 PM
Amazing project! :o Any chance of any 15mm versions?
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: darthfozzywig on September 23, 2020, 09:04:03 PM
Those buildings are great!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on September 23, 2020, 10:24:24 PM
Thank you all!! :)

Amazing project! :o Any chance of any 15mm versions?

I miiight have something planned:

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Robotos15mm.jpg)

And scale shots with 15mms and 28mms:

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9220614.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9220617.jpg)

Cheers,
Jack 
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on September 25, 2020, 10:38:52 PM
So, since i liked the big one so much, I decided to increase the size of the 6mm ones by 25%. And I REALLY like the result!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9250618.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9250620.jpg)

The goose-like robots now are clearly smaller, like they should be, but they still tower over infantry, like they should be!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9250624.jpg)

C&C welcome. Printing some more terrain for next monday's release!
Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on September 26, 2020, 10:58:26 AM
...and finally, I'm going to release the towers-antennas next monday!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9260625.jpg)

Cheers

Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: YPU on September 26, 2020, 01:53:35 PM
absolutely loving the antenna, its one those things you see everywhere but on the wargaming table!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on September 27, 2020, 08:22:43 PM
Painted the robot! well, at least one. The painting took a bit less than an hour, but i reckon that by using the wise amount of serialization I could paint multiple pieces in about 20 minutes each!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Robot6mm_horz.jpg)

The technique was the same I used for the IFV: contrasts, drybrush of the main color, details then white drybrush. Here a scale shot with some 6mm troops and tanks.

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/P9270659.jpg)

They are BIG, big enough to work as imperial knighs for a Knights World or a Knights Crusade Epic army. Would there be enough interest for these??

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Pattus Magnus on September 27, 2020, 11:43:32 PM
Those are great! Iím not an Epic player but I certainly would look for ways to use them in my 6mm scifi forces.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Ray Rivers on September 28, 2020, 12:00:20 AM
Nice paint job on the mech!  :-*

More importantly, nice designing on the entire range.  ;D

Lots of neat stuff in this thread.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on September 29, 2020, 08:10:59 AM
Those are great! Iím not an Epic player but I certainly would look for ways to use them in my 6mm scifi forces.

Thanks! Severeal more variations are under works, so hopefully you'll find the perfect fit for your scope!

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/120316972_3284837721607828_1651736135283305631_n.png)

Nice paint job on the mech!  :-*

More importantly, nice designing on the entire range.  ;D

Lots of neat stuff in this thread.

Cheers Ray! Yeah, the range is growing and i like that. I'll be slowly putting most of the designs on the STL store too!


Speaking of which.... two new products are on the store!
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-battlefields-of-tomorrow-ramps-and-silos-135704
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-battlefields-of-tomorrow-towers-and-lookouts-135702

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/resize-towersandlookouts.jpg)   (http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/resize-rampsandsilos.jpg)
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: 6milPhil on September 30, 2020, 12:45:20 PM
Excellent work, as per usual, and easier to get hold of than those great bazaar buildings you did.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Steam Flunky on October 02, 2020, 03:38:47 PM
..  :o... :-*...Temptation...... >:(
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Macunaima on October 02, 2020, 10:58:22 PM
I would love the files for all of these ó towers and Ďbots ó shrunk down to 50% for 3mm. Do you think that is possible?
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Macunaima on October 03, 2020, 01:37:38 AM
I desperately want to get those shanty town Stf files to try them out for 3mm. Where can I buy them?
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on October 03, 2020, 04:08:49 PM
I desperately want to get those shanty town Stf files to try them out for 3mm. Where can I buy them?

Wow! That would be interesting to see! You can find all the files on the store: https://www.myminifactory.com/users/TheLazyForger

As for rescaling the towers, i guess it is possible but they would be VERY fragile once printed (but it can be a non-problem i guess)

Do let me know how you'll find yourself with these for 3mm!!!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Macunaima on October 03, 2020, 05:28:39 PM
The towers donít interest me so much as the shanty towns and asian modern buildings... plus, of course, your walker robots. Will they ever become available?
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on October 05, 2020, 08:07:54 AM
The towers donít interest me so much as the shanty towns and asian modern buildings... plus, of course, your walker robots. Will they ever become available?

The robots are ALMOST ready for release. They were due for release today, but i had a few mishaps in the weekend that delayed the process. :(
I have a bunch of them printed, and they are oh-so-fun to pose, so many possibilities!

So far this is the current status:
(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/WhatsApp-Image-2020-10-03-at-22.03.19.jpeg)

Cheers, soon updates, promise! :)
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Jagannath on October 07, 2020, 05:26:02 PM
Looking forward to the walkers too - definitely picking these up.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on October 12, 2020, 09:43:46 AM
Looking forward to the walkers too - definitely picking these up.

Walkers are on the way - painting 7 now! And looking for test printers too! (i just PM'd you!)
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: zrunelord on October 13, 2020, 05:23:45 PM
Some very nice work my friend,
Have you tried to scale the roots to 15/18mm scale ? I think they would be great as scout mecha.

Thanks for sharing
Z
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on October 13, 2020, 07:23:08 PM
Some very nice work my friend,
Have you tried to scale the roots to 15/18mm scale ? I think they would be great as scout mecha.

Thanks for sharing
Z

Scales with robot have relatively little meaning. But i upscaled them 160% (see the pages before this one) and they work pretty well for 28mm too! For 15mm, the robots at 100% work pretty darn well. probably not for "manned" machines, but as big tough 4-meters-tall robots they work pretty great! :)
 
More pics VERY soon, btw!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on October 14, 2020, 04:46:55 PM
Yay, the robots are finally painted! :)

Here some group shots:

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA140676.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA140674.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA140672.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA140678.jpg)

And close ups. I decided to equip those to match Epic's loadouts... and we got
---A BARON
(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA140683.jpg)

-- THREE KNIGHTS PALADIN
(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA140680.jpg)

-- THREE KNIGHTS ERRANT
(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA140681.jpg)

C&C welcome, more pics will follow, and in the following days a link to my MyMiniFactory new line!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: gamer Mac on October 14, 2020, 08:48:11 PM
Very nice  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: aliensurfer on October 14, 2020, 10:09:13 PM
They look fantastic  :-*
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on October 14, 2020, 10:28:07 PM
Thanks guys! Pretty happy with the photos. The robots are going live tomorrow for 12$ on MMF, and with some extra weapons in a separate pack out for free! Planning to release two other versions of the robots too, as soon as I find the inspiration for that! :)
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on October 15, 2020, 01:36:12 PM
And... finally released!

https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-138213
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-138214

Some extra pictures of the "extra free weapons" below:

HANDS
(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA150696.jpg)

LASERS
(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA150693.jpg)

MISSILES
(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA150694.jpg)

CANNONS BATTERY
(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA150695.jpg)
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on October 17, 2020, 03:48:48 PM
Strangely, the robots didn't sell at all (https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-the-tech-socrates-class-battle-rig-138213). Compared to all the other stuff, they're doing underwhelmingly bad. Ideas on how that's the case? I realize I might like them too much, being a vanity project of mine I worked on for quite a long time. Yet --- nearly zero responses.

But --- on a lighter note: painted shanties!! Shots below:

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA170729.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA170738.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA170742.jpg)

(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA170743.jpg)

Once again, a link to the shanties: https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-battlefields-of-tomorrow-shanty-town-134864

C&C welcome, and feel free to share the links around!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Pattus Magnus on October 17, 2020, 10:15:01 PM
I like the robot designs a lot (and pretty well everything else youíve posted here) but I donít have a 3D printer. There might be a service locally where I could get them done, but I havenít looked into it. I wonder if maybe a lot of other war gamers are in a similar situation in relation to 3D printing technology and donít have easy access yet. Give it a couple years and that will change, though!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on October 18, 2020, 09:21:09 AM
I like the robot designs a lot (and pretty well everything else youíve posted here) but I donít have a 3D printer. There might be a service locally where I could get them done, but I havenít looked into it. I wonder if maybe a lot of other war gamers are in a similar situation in relation to 3D printing technology and donít have easy access yet. Give it a couple years and that will change, though!

That's a very common situation, true, BUT I'm comparing the results of this set with the others i have on the store, which are selling pretty well instead. It could be the period (upcoming US elections, new lockdown coming to most countries), the theme (cool robots, there are already around) or the target (epic players want to play with canon setting, battletech players have free stl options out there already)... I don't know, really. But feels weird.

ANYWAYS - here's a sneak pic of the next thing coming:
(http://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA170756.jpg)

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on October 21, 2020, 01:30:19 PM
...the tutorial is out!

https://thelazyforger.com/tutorials/shanty-lookout/

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA170751.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA170754.jpg)

C&C welcome,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Commander Roj on October 21, 2020, 05:25:26 PM
...the tutorial is out!

https://thelazyforger.com/tutorials/shanty-lookout/

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA170751.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PA170754.jpg)

Love this. If I had a printer... really like the island. I would love a little archipelago like that.

C&C welcome,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: YPU on October 21, 2020, 07:27:46 PM
Quote
Love this. If I had a printer... really like the island. I would love a little archipelago like that.

I've been thinking of waterworld games as well with stuff like this, might be better suited to do that in 20mm with gaslands rules though.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on October 21, 2020, 08:14:20 PM
Love this. If I had a printer... really like the island. I would love a little archipelago like that.

Hah! Well, the island thing is scratchbuilt! You can always add some resin terrain to it! :P
And as mentione above, GameCraft will sell the resin copies of the shanties asap!

I've been thinking of waterworld games as well with stuff like this, might be better suited to do that in 20mm with gaslands rules though.

It would pretty badass to use Epic rules for naval action. Except the infantry would look dumb. :D
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: FramFramson on October 21, 2020, 08:20:19 PM
The robots really are great.

They have the perfect sort of fantasy/realistic feel, like Gundam meets General Dynamics' Big Dog.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on October 21, 2020, 08:27:30 PM
The robots really are great.

They have the perfect sort of fantasy/realistic feel, like Gundam meets General Dynamics' Big Dog.

Thanks Mat, that was exactly the look i was looking after! <3
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: YPU on October 21, 2020, 10:38:35 PM
It would pretty badass to use Epic rules for naval action. Except the infantry would look dumb. :D

Says you, my tyranids would only be scarier when swimming and humming the jaws tune!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on October 29, 2020, 08:43:36 PM
Says you, my tyranids would only be scarier when swimming and humming the jaws tune!

I can see the robots doing some front crawl swimming! :)

MEANWHILE: here's another robot i churned out in the last days.
First the sketch (in scale)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/122509732_2814405565456095_6353761981611055836_n.jpg)

Then a first version (the Socrates for scale)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/122461037_841597879939203_8661235189129315772_n.png)

and what proved to be an acceptable one, once test-printed. More in line with the socrates, under many regards.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/122620778_351801956094657_2785480093521536021_n.png)

More news soon, i've gotta equip these little fellas!

Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Cacique Caribe on October 29, 2020, 09:03:45 PM
How tall would it be, in millimeters?  I donít to 6mm but am always looking for cool ďman-sizedĒ bots for 15-18mm.

Dan
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on October 29, 2020, 10:44:02 PM
How tall would it be, in millimeters?  I donít to 6mm but am always looking for cool ďman-sizedĒ bots for 15-18mm.

Dan
measuring one i have with me, it's about 16mm to the "head". A pretty nice non-human humanoid, i'd say!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Cacique Caribe on October 30, 2020, 12:01:58 AM
Very cool!

Dan
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on November 06, 2020, 08:31:33 PM
Some updates on the "other faction", the one i'm not 3D printing!
I've started preparing the bases for all the remaining tanks and for the robots (from White Dragon Miniatures) and i'm particularly proud of the big 'un.
Totally WIP for now, but still worth sharing

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PB060763.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PB060766.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PB060760.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PB060769.jpg)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Billchuck on November 06, 2020, 08:46:10 PM
Damn man, do you have any idea how much work it is to put those big transmission structures back up after something has knocked them down? 


That base looks incredible. 
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Andym on November 08, 2020, 09:42:40 AM
I absolutely love this project! :-* You've applied your usual attention to detail! Amazing!! 8)
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on November 10, 2020, 11:06:03 PM
Thanks guys!

The smaller bots (see last page) is now equipped, printed and painted.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PB070776.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PB090777.jpg)

In fact, I even did a mini-painting-tutorial for the painting process. Mostly for myself, so that I won't lose track of the steps.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/miniBotTutorial.jpg)

Words will follw soon.

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on November 20, 2020, 11:28:03 AM
More updates on the infantry!

about 4 years ago I re-sculpted with slight modifications the old 15mm infantry i did 5-6 years ago in 6mm. I never tried printing some, so I did and i painted them quickly.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PB170806.jpg)
THEN i decided to resculpt them from scratch in a better style. I did learn a thing or two in the last half-decade, afterall!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/bots-V2.png)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/bots-V2_comparison.jpeg)

...now they have chunkier proportions to work well in 6mm. Cute, no?

... as a bonus, here is a finished shot of some of the White Dragon Miniatures robots used as titans!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PB150794.jpg)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Karadek on November 20, 2020, 01:04:03 PM
Fantastic work.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on November 21, 2020, 02:38:51 PM
Fantastic work.
Thank you!!

Meanwhile...
I printed the first infantry troops, and they look pretty convincing!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PB200811.jpg)

I printed them for 15mm too (240% scale) and although they are meant for 6mm, they really do their part. I will have to re-support them properly for the scale though. :)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PB200815.jpg)

And.... HEAVY TANKS! I took the model you can find a few pages behind and made it bigger and tougher. It's not just a rescaling, since the elements used have a fixed size, but i added parts and made it into a properly super-heavy tank!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PB210818.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/WhatsApp-Image-2020-11-20-at-18.41.22.jpeg)

... of course, with multiple weapon options.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PB210822.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PB210825.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/PB210826.jpg)


Soon-ish that will all go to the store! =)

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: zrunelord on November 21, 2020, 05:19:13 PM
Bravo.... :D
Thanks for sharing
Z
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: gamer Mac on November 24, 2020, 06:13:02 PM
Cool stuff :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on November 25, 2020, 11:08:40 PM
Juuuust finished the 3 Heavy Tanks:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/WhatsApp-Image-2020-11-24-at-21.06.50.jpeg)

And more stuff on the workbench:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/127812197_3453436641371899_5665152481004776221_o.jpg)

...AND concepts for some future gigantic engines, too:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/127503574_373590997081391_8522109716196100429_n.jpg)

... all in all, I'm keeping myself busy, when I'm not working on commission stuff (and when I'm not in my day job, of course).
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: FramFramson on November 26, 2020, 01:37:17 AM
The spaced armour doubling as storage (often for something in bulk that can be sacrificed, like water or oil) covering the tracks is very modern and keen. Good eye for adding something like that.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on November 26, 2020, 01:16:55 PM
The spaced armour doubling as storage (often for something in bulk that can be sacrificed, like water or oil) covering the tracks is very modern and keen. Good eye for adding something like that.

Thanks!
Wait. Where did I do that? :D :D :D
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: FramFramson on November 26, 2020, 07:48:21 PM
 >:(
Thanks!
Wait. Where did I do that? :D :D :D

Here!  :D

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/WhatsApp-Image-2020-11-24-at-21.06.50.jpeg)

EDIT: The earliest versions of this were just a long rack of jerrycans covering the tank tracks. In the late 60's I think? Some modern tanks have actual dedicated track protection compartments there too (reactive armour, etc.)
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Roo on November 26, 2020, 10:18:22 PM
Simply beyond awesome!  Design to realisation with great paint jobs and lovely basing...complete talent!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Steam Flunky on November 29, 2020, 05:45:52 PM
Fantastic as always.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on December 05, 2020, 02:24:12 PM
EDIT: The earliest versions of this were just a long rack of jerrycans covering the tank tracks. In the late 60's I think? Some modern tanks have actual dedicated track protection compartments there too (reactive armour, etc.)

Oh i see! :) :) Yeah - my tanks lingo is not excellent, but i've got quite a lot of reference pictures, and some stuff just makes sense! :D :D

Simply beyond awesome!  Design to realisation with great paint jobs and lovely basing...complete talent!

Fantastic as always.

Thanks guys! :) :)

So.. i'm building up the faction, and the infantry is turning out to look awesomely cute, and i think pretty badass too.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/PB270842.jpg)

Now i've got another 60-something troops to paint, plus the bots and vehicles. Ideally i will use most of it as decoration on bots bases. It is just aesthetic, but isn't it all anyways?

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/PB270845.jpg)

Cheers! And stay tuned!
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: zrunelord on December 05, 2020, 04:18:48 PM
Bravo  :D
What 3d program are you using?
As I'm looking for one try my hand.
Sketchup?

Thanks for sharing
Z
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on December 06, 2020, 05:32:10 PM
Bravo  :D
What 3d program are you using?
As I'm looking for one try my hand.
Sketchup?

Thanks for sharing
Z

Cheers!

The small robots are made entirely on sketchup (which i used since forever, so i'm very fast with) but i generally mix blender and sketchup depending on the components to be done.

Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Roo on December 06, 2020, 05:41:28 PM
SWEET AS
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on December 16, 2020, 07:55:01 PM
Aaannd now... Small bots!

Really really happy of the result with those.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/PC160931.jpg)

The infantry on the bse is pretty useful to give a sense of scale, which is very important especially with robots.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/PC160939.jpg)

Once more and i'm done, promise.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/PC160929.jpg)

C&C welcome, as always!

Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: fred on December 17, 2020, 08:15:29 AM
They look cracking!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on December 21, 2020, 06:38:12 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on February 20, 2021, 08:30:25 PM
Cheers gents,
Some more serious update tomorrow or early next week.

Meanwhile, a teaser.
(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/fullBot2.png)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: FramFramson on February 20, 2021, 08:46:25 PM
Holeeeeeeee!  :o :o :o

That looks insaaannnnne!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Brummie on February 20, 2021, 09:37:02 PM
Those look amazing!! Love the dead trees!  :-*
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Jagannath on February 20, 2021, 11:30:25 PM
Love the latest updates dude, very nice.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Billchuck on February 21, 2021, 12:18:35 AM
Cheers gents,
Some more serious update tomorrow or early next week.

Meanwhile, a teaser.
(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/fullBot2.png)

Cheers
Jack

He looks very upset. Downright crabby.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on February 21, 2021, 11:05:34 AM
He looks very upset. Downright crabby.

Not upset, not really.
THIS would be upset:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Emotions.jpg)
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on February 22, 2021, 03:19:05 PM
Printed pictures, finally!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/P2221006.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/P2221007.jpg)

... and with a bunch of their little cousins too:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/P2221010.jpg)

C&C welcome
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Brummie on February 22, 2021, 04:00:04 PM
Now you've got to design a secret underground bunker entrance for him to come crawling out of, to fit the "oh sh*t these guys only seem to be getting bigger" theme.  :D
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: YPU on February 23, 2021, 08:55:46 AM

It's so good!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Jagannath on February 23, 2021, 10:41:12 AM
WOW!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on February 23, 2021, 01:50:23 PM
Now you've got to design a secret underground bunker entrance for him to come crawling out of, to fit the "oh sh*t these guys only seem to be getting bigger" theme.  :D

Hah! that would be rad!

Thank you everyone! ^_^ I'm now creativity-stuck regarding the back-mounted weapons. As soon as i'll get back on track with that, i'll start painting this beast!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: warlord frod on February 23, 2021, 04:20:21 PM
Now thats a thing of beauty  :o
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Jagannath on February 24, 2021, 10:10:35 AM
Hah! that would be rad!

Thank you everyone! ^_^ I'm now creativity-stuck regarding the back-mounted weapons. As soon as i'll get back on track with that, i'll start painting this beast!

I like indirect weapons in big strategic battle games so maybe some mortar type weapons?
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: fred on February 24, 2021, 05:58:32 PM
So cool. And so big (in a small way)!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: gamer Mac on February 26, 2021, 03:11:08 PM
A true beast :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on February 27, 2021, 10:46:49 AM
Thank you all! Working on the weapons now, and a tinier variation of the same. Updates soon! =)
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on March 23, 2021, 07:40:05 PM
Gosh! I totally forgot to post updates here! :D

For now, some new shanty terrain!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3191076.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3191071.jpg)

Close-ups:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3191078.jpg)

And, currently used as part the terrain but definitely to be recycled in the future, a civilian vehicle too!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3231081.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3231087.jpg)

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: gamer Mac on March 24, 2021, 09:38:00 AM
Amazing detail :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: metalface13 on March 24, 2021, 12:41:55 PM
Those are awesome!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on March 24, 2021, 01:28:49 PM
Cheers! The set is to be completed soon enough (and will be "Battlefields of Tomorrow: Shanty Roads" or something along these lines), and i'm already thinking about the next two!

Soon more pictures of the crabs as well!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on March 25, 2021, 08:09:42 PM
While waiting for the crabs - here's the oil station for the "roads" set!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3251089.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3251090.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3251093.jpg)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on March 26, 2021, 09:26:30 PM
A couple of better shots:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3261116.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3261111.jpg)

...I lied, here's a third.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3261101.jpg)

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Calimero on March 27, 2021, 02:07:58 AM

Love the (s)hell sign  lol
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on March 28, 2021, 05:40:02 PM
Love the (s)hell sign  lol

Hah, glad people are getting it! Suggestion of my sculpting buddy. :)

Anyways - proper shots taken for the store!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3281135.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3281134.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3281132.jpg)

And close-ups on the tiny parts too:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3281142.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3281143.jpg)

Soon (tomorrow-ish?) links to the store page too!

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: clanmac on March 28, 2021, 07:13:58 PM
Shockingly good - I don't need this kind of temptation.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on March 29, 2021, 01:36:54 PM
Shockingly good - I don't need this kind of temptation.

Everybody does need temptation!

Meanwhile, the set is out! https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-163148

And some better pics here:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/DSC07270.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/DSC07261.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/DSC07268.jpg)

Hoping that it's tempting even more.

Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: YPU on March 29, 2021, 03:30:23 PM
Man these just keep getting better!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: gamer Mac on March 29, 2021, 04:22:09 PM
Lovely detail :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Jagannath on March 30, 2021, 11:57:21 AM
Wow, these are excellent pal.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on March 30, 2021, 05:57:16 PM
Thank you all!!! :)

Doing the last tests now on the Behemot cannons, and calling that set "done" as well!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on March 30, 2021, 09:59:11 PM
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell, Back to the giant robot crab... it's finally done! The three weapons are test-printed and revised, now I'm happy.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3301145.jpg)

And the trademarked photos "in hand"

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3301149.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3301153.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/P3301154.jpg)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on March 31, 2021, 06:11:55 PM
I guess I had to take this picture too.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/DSC07272.jpg)

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: FramFramson on March 31, 2021, 07:40:38 PM
Now THAT'S a publicity shot!

Really is a testament to 3D printing... imagine trying to make moulds for these!  :o
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 01, 2021, 11:02:44 AM
Now THAT'S a publicity shot!

Really is a testament to 3D printing... imagine trying to make moulds for these!  :o

That would be mental! That's exactly the philosophy I try to follow when modelling - uncastable but not unpaintable.

Very happy how the photo ended up. I will likely take similar pictures in the future with other designs!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Brummie on April 01, 2021, 06:48:17 PM
The Shanty town is amazing, that's defo going on the list for next months prints.

Amazed these things can be so detailed, although recent prints for my Epic 40k project has certainly proven it possible, though this stuff is the next degree  :-*
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 04, 2021, 06:40:07 PM
The Shanty town is amazing, that's defo going on the list for next months prints.

Amazed these things can be so detailed, although recent prints for my Epic 40k project has certainly proven it possible, though this stuff is the next degree  :-*

Very kind, thanks!!

Updates on troops. In this last sprint i've modelled two different units that I had drawn a while ago. Pretty happy on how they turned out!!

Infantry Bots (bigger than humanoid robots, but not huge). There's a 200% print, it looks splendidly with 15mm figures!!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/DSC07306.jpg)

And support fighter!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/DSC07312.jpg)

More pics of the latter:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/P4041176.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/P4041177.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/P4041178.jpg)

Pretty happy with both, and never so close to release the whole bunch!!!

Updates soon

Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Eliot on April 04, 2021, 10:04:01 PM
Really nice work!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 11, 2021, 06:10:43 PM
Some first painted pics! Still not completed the base, but close enough:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/DSC07336.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/DSC07337.jpg)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 14, 2021, 10:02:44 AM
and - another BIG WIP (base not completed)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/P4131200.jpg)

C&C welcome!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Chief Lackey Rich on April 14, 2021, 11:51:22 AM
Lovely work, every bit of it.

Really makes you wonder where this industry is going.  3D printing is bound to make existing business models just unworkable sooner or later, and the more I see work like this the more I think "sooner" is practically here already.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Andym on April 14, 2021, 11:54:19 AM
Stunning stuff! :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 14, 2021, 12:58:57 PM
Lovely work, every bit of it.

Really makes you wonder where this industry is going.  3D printing is bound to make existing business models just unworkable sooner or later, and the more I see work like this the more I think "sooner" is practically here already.

In a sense, it's quite a pity, since some traditional sculptors are simply incredible.
On the other hand... so be it. Those sculptors already proved to be just as talented with 3D medium, and if this allows for cooler stuff it's great.

The problem i see is in the long run. Now i've done a crab mecha, which looks cool. Nothing too original, but it has the wow factor.
In 5 years, i'm sure that many others (including people better than me) will probably do a similar thing, and people will be more and more discouraged to do more.

In traditional sculpting you have molds getting damaged, here everything is persistent. I'm not sure how further we can all go with this.

(spoiler: it could well be "forever", since people will more and more start buying the new idea just because it's new and follows a trend).

Stunning stuff! :-* :-* :-*

Cheers Andym, thanks!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Chief Lackey Rich on April 14, 2021, 02:22:53 PM
In a sense, it's quite a pity, since some traditional sculptors are simply incredible.
On the other hand... so be it. Those sculptors already proved to be just as talented with 3D medium, and if this allows for cooler stuff it's great.

I suspect we'll always have hand-sculpted minis on the market, but they may transition from being the norm (which they really already aren't in many ways) to being niche "prestige" items where the selling point is the fact that they weren't created with softwar.

Quote
The problem i see is in the long run. Now i've done a crab mecha, which looks cool. Nothing too original, but it has the wow factor.
In 5 years, i'm sure that many others (including people better than me) will probably do a similar thing, and people will be more and more discouraged to do more.

In traditional sculpting you have molds getting damaged, here everything is persistent. I'm not sure how further we can all go with this.

(spoiler: it could well be "forever", since people will more and more start buying the new idea just because it's new and follows a trend).

Not to detract from the originality of your work, but broadly similar mecha/walker vehicle minis have been around for decades.  They crop up in several Weird WW2 ranges, GZG has 15mm and even 25mm spider walkers, I'm pretty sure I've seen clockwork/steampunk ones, and both DP9 and Darkest Star have some anime-inspired designs as well.  The idea isn't new, but your execution of it has a new look and a very strong aesthetic.  I think as home printing and the software behind it continues to mature and become more user-friendly we'll see a steady increase in what's out there.  90% of it will probably live down to Sturgeon's Law, but that won't stop people from trying.

Seems particularly likely that we'll see a modding community arise, where people take commercial (or free) STL files and tweak them into exactly what they want, then share the files online so others can use their designs - or further tweak them.  Could be a real golden age where you can make exactly the minis you've always wanted yourself, and at home no less - but I do wonder where the existing manufacturers are going to fit into that model in years to come.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: gamer Mac on April 14, 2021, 03:41:09 PM
Love the upswept wings on the fighters :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Your drawing are good as well you should produce a book of them
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 14, 2021, 04:13:10 PM
Not to detract from the originality of your work, but broadly similar mecha/walker vehicle minis have been around for decades.  They crop up in several Weird WW2 ranges, GZG has 15mm and even 25mm spider walkers, I'm pretty sure I've seen clockwork/steampunk ones, and both DP9 and Darkest Star have some anime-inspired designs as well.  The idea isn't new, but your execution of it has a new look and a very strong aesthetic.  I think as home printing and the software behind it continues to mature and become more user-friendly we'll see a steady increase in what's out there.  90% of it will probably live down to Sturgeon's Law, but that won't stop people from trying.

All of the examples above, however, are physical models. More expensive and often "not worth" getting, unless you really need one for a project.
At the moment 3D sculpting is a land of the "firsts", where the first person to make a new concept usually gets it all, and all the ones that follow can only get a portion if they have a heavy social presence.
Modders are already out there, most of them adopting very dodgy phylosophies regarding other people's work, not to mention 3D models extracted from videogames. All good, but it'll even shrink the range of possible "new" things to do.

Love the upswept wings on the fighters :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Your drawing are good as well you should produce a book of them

haha, thanks Mac! :)

Cheers
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Chief Lackey Rich on April 14, 2021, 06:17:50 PM
Quote
At the moment 3D sculpting is a land of the "firsts", where the first person to make a new concept usually gets it all, and all the ones that follow can only get a portion if they have a heavy social presence.

Don't think that's true unless the subject is very, very narrowly defined.  For ex, I found this on Thingiverse with five seconds worth of searching but it doesn't change the fact you still went and made your own take on crab mechs - and ones that look better than the one at the link, I might add.  I fully expect people will continue to tackle subjects that have been done by others already, making something that makes their personal version simply because they can - just like you did.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2154192

And that's just one non-commercial site.  There are bound to be other mech STLs out there in other styles.  Which particular STL people use is going to come down to how much the artist's design appeals to that particular person. 

There's no "wrong" way to do most subjects unless you're imitating a particular IP - which as you said is pretty dodgy.  Not that that's stopped a bajillion GW knockoffs from cropping up, with varying degrees of piratical skill displayed.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 14, 2021, 09:37:26 PM
Don't think that's true unless the subject is very, very narrowly defined.  For ex, I found this on Thingiverse with five seconds worth of searching but it doesn't change the fact you still went and made your own take on crab mechs - and ones that look better than the one at the link, I might add.  I fully expect people will continue to tackle subjects that have been done by others already, making something that makes their personal version simply because they can - just like you did.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2154192

And that's just one non-commercial site.  There are bound to be other mech STLs out there in other styles.  Which particular STL people use is going to come down to how much the artist's design appeals to that particular person. 

There's no "wrong" way to do most subjects unless you're imitating a particular IP - which as you said is pretty dodgy.  Not that that's stopped a bajillion GW knockoffs from cropping up, with varying degrees of piratical skill displayed.

I see your point.
And maybe the whole 3D market will saturate first of the IP knock-offs. Because who needs another 6mm space marine?
I hope you're right on that, it would definitely be a good thing.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 16, 2021, 08:38:21 AM
MORE PICS!

This time finished, with tiny infantry on all bases. The idea is that "robots are everywhere", so even flyers will have robots on their bases.

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/P4151207.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/P4151211.jpg)

and the small crabs too:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/P4151205.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/P4151206.jpg)

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Jagannath on April 16, 2021, 09:02:44 AM
These are so so good mate, I really need to pick them up.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: has.been on April 16, 2021, 09:43:12 AM
Wonderful work. Love the shade of yellow,
and the 'Robots everywhere' look.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Ray Rivers on April 16, 2021, 11:21:20 AM
Excellent!

I also like the robots everywhere look and the flyer is very nice. Your basing and painting skills really make these minis pop.

If I was 20 years younger, I'd be totally into 3d printing.

BTW: Have you thought about designing an opposing force?
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 16, 2021, 11:38:46 AM
These are so so good mate, I really need to pick them up.

Thanks Jag! If everything goes according to plan, i'll be having a 50% sale on MMF upon releasing these. Worth getting!

Wonderful work. Love the shade of yellow,
and the 'Robots everywhere' look.
Glad to see that it's being appreciated! it takes a while to do all the robots, but it certainly gives some satisfaction!

Excellent!

I also like the robots everywhere look and the flyer is very nice. Your basing and painting skills really make these minis pop.

If I was 20 years younger, I'd be totally into 3d printing.

BTW: Have you thought about designing an opposing force?
Why not jumping on the train now? nowadays resin printers are really low-effort, and cheap!

As for an opposing force: WHEN i'll get back some energies i'm considering a not-mad-max faction, meant to proxy as Speed Freakz orks in Epic 40k. Plenty of ideas for that!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Chief Lackey Rich on April 16, 2021, 01:53:17 PM
Those look great.  Always liked throwing a few infantry on larger Epic-scale bases, although mine never looked as nice as yours.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 19, 2021, 05:28:11 PM
BIG AND FINAL UPDATE about the painting (at least for a while!)

The PLATO CLASS giga-uber-rig is done!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/PlatoClass.jpg)

Here next to the support rigs:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/TeaserTech3.jpg)

And, while being (literally) shadowed by the big guy, this whole bunch of infantry types i'm really in love with!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/TeaserTech2.jpg)

Cheers! C&C welcome!
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Eliot on April 19, 2021, 05:38:19 PM
This whole thread is great but the walker is just outstanding. Well done.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Roo on April 19, 2021, 06:18:48 PM
Very, very cool
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Wirelizard on April 19, 2021, 07:20:08 PM
6mm SF is where I started in wargaming but I've not touched it in well over a decade. This thread is giving me a small scale SF itch again!

Those little quadraped gun bots (top set of the last photo above) are especially great, I could see using them in larger scales as little gun bots, pistol/SMG armed.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Billchuck on April 19, 2021, 07:25:49 PM

Those little quadraped gun bots (top set of the last photo above) are especially great, I could see using them in larger scales as little gun bots, pistol/SMG armed.

I want 8 or so to use for 15mm bots in Five Parsecs.  Sadly I don't have a printer. Or space for a printer.  Or room in the mountain for the landslide of minis that would come out of the printer.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 20, 2021, 07:14:06 AM
This whole thread is great but the walker is just outstanding. Well done.
Thank you Eliot! Pretty happy with the big guy!

6mm SF is where I started in wargaming but I've not touched it in well over a decade. This thread is giving me a small scale SF itch again!

Those little quadraped gun bots (top set of the last photo above) are especially great, I could see using them in larger scales as little gun bots, pistol/SMG armed.

I'm particularly fond of those as well! above in the post there should be a picture of the original sketches and some up-scaled print too.

I want 8 or so to use for 15mm bots in Five Parsecs.  Sadly I don't have a printer. Or space for a printer.  Or room in the mountain for the landslide of minis that would come out of the printer.

What i've experienced, personally, is that most of the 28mm miniatures (or humans in general) don't come out THAT great from printers. They tend to have soft details and while definitely paintable they're not *fun* to paint. So i generally end up with a lot of tiny accessories for terrain, vehicles and scifi looking machinery, but no humanoids (except in 6mm)
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Billchuck on April 20, 2021, 04:44:03 PM

What i've experienced, personally, is that most of the 28mm miniatures (or humans in general) don't come out THAT great from printers. They tend to have soft details and while definitely paintable they're not *fun* to paint. So i generally end up with a lot of tiny accessories for terrain, vehicles and scifi looking machinery, but no humanoids (except in 6mm)

Actually, I'm looking at the quads in the top row of this image, printed this size, to use as 15mm combat bots. (https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/TeaserTech2.jpg)
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 20, 2021, 05:27:29 PM
Actually, I'm looking at the quads in the top row of this image, printed this size, to use as 15mm combat bots.

At that size they would work well too, the size of a dog!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Chief Lackey Rich on April 20, 2021, 07:11:09 PM
Absolutely lovely.  As good or better than the best efforts of companies like Vanguard or Games Workshop.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 21, 2021, 07:48:13 AM
Absolutely lovely.  As good or better than the best efforts of companies like Vanguard or Games Workshop.

Cheers, thanks!

BTW, Yesterday evening I did a proper photoshoot, I'll post some juice later today!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Jagannath on April 21, 2021, 08:27:21 AM
Love this whole project so much, I'm definitely going to paint up some of those giant ones!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Samsonov on April 21, 2021, 09:36:18 AM
To throw a curveball, those small bots, the ones which are dog sized in 15mm, would be excellent for a 3mm cyberpunk project I have planned...
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 21, 2021, 10:18:37 AM
To throw a curveball, those small bots, the ones which are dog sized in 15mm, would be excellent for a 3mm cyberpunk project I have planned...

Looks like the scale intersectionality of these bots is hitting hard!!

Meanwhile - MORE PICTURES!

First a banner...

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/wide2.jpg)

or two:

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/small3.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/small2.jpg)

and then a happy dump of pics below!

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/DSC07344.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/DSC07345.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/DSC07347.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/DSC07359.jpg)

(https://thelazyforger.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/DSC07369.jpg)

Cheers,
Jack
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Ray Rivers on April 21, 2021, 02:27:28 PM
Great detailing on those tiny minis!  :-* o_o :-*

I'd be proud to have that army in my display case! Hope it helps with the sales.
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 21, 2021, 03:05:04 PM
Great detailing on those tiny minis!  :-* o_o :-*

I'd be proud to have that army in my display case! Hope it helps with the sales.

At this point, it's more like the sales are helping with my painting boost. The whole selling stuff is only to motivate me to be more creative (at least for now. We'll see in the future).
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: gamer Mac on April 22, 2021, 11:07:51 AM
Have you thought of opposition?
Lovely work :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 22, 2021, 04:45:27 PM
Have you thought of opposition?
Lovely work :-* :-* :-*

I'm considering a non-mad-max faction full of random vehicles and men attached to them in funny poses. Right now i'm in detox, when back in the game i'll definitely consider it!
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Macunaima on April 25, 2021, 07:37:50 AM
Do you think it would be possible to rescale the infantry to 3mm?
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 25, 2021, 08:45:04 AM
Do you think it would be possible to rescale the infantry to 3mm?

Oh, that would be... interesting. The only way i see that happening is by modifying the files in meshmixer, "fattening" them more. It would be a hard trade-off: either undetailed or too fragile! :S
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Macunaima on April 25, 2021, 01:01:31 PM
The rest of the stuff is perfect for 3mm already. It would be a pity to nit have appropriate infantry
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Sangennaru on April 30, 2021, 02:11:43 PM
In case anyone was interested:
there's a sale going on for the next 2 days on MMF. Using the THETECH30 discount code will add a 30% off the bundle! that makes the whole army 28$ worth!

https://www.myminifactory.com/users/TheLazyForger/collection/the-tech
Title: Re: my 6mm Sci-Fi project
Post by: Calimero on June 13, 2021, 02:43:11 PM

I really like your work! :o :-* :o

I donít own a 3D printer, but, out of curiosity, could these model printed in ď15mm scaleĒ?