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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Frostgrave => Topic started by: Daniel36 on October 15, 2018, 08:40:16 PM
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Welcome weary traveler! If you came upon this thread through Google, there is a 2nd edition of this thread now available here: https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=142647.0
Old edition:
What I want to do is have very short descriptions of the specific type of scenery (aside from the regular ruins) needed for each particular scenario. Then, if there is either a product out there or a very good tutorial, perhaps a thread started by someone here or maybe even some inspirational pictures to get you started, then I will add links below that.
Let's make this a community effort so if you have anything to add, just add a comment and I will see to it that it gets added to the list.
Also, if you have built any of the scenic pieces, please do share pics here!!
(Obviously, if the mods dislike this idea for whatever reason, feel free to delete)
MAIN RULEBOOK - 2ND EDITION
The first edition has half of the scenarios listed here, but it felt unnecessary to keep that list
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#1 - The Well of Dreams and Sorrows
- A well
Product - http://adrianswalls.co.uk/epages/0208e13d-a967-46c1-ba72-2df35cc0f9a6.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/0208e13d-a967-46c1-ba72-2df35cc0f9a6/Products/FCB-07
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#2 - The Mausoleum
- A Mausoleum of at least 6" a side, with a door in the middle of each side
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#3 - The Silent Tower
- A ruined tower, at least 10" and three stories high
- Two smaller ruined buildings with walkways running from their top to either the first or second floor of the tower
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#4 - The Library
- An underground library, built up from a maze of bookcases.
- Frozen book piles
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#5 - The Living Museum
- Broken walls to form a 12" by 12" house.
- Six statues
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#6 - The Worm Hunts
- No particular scenery needed
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#7 - The Haunted Houses
- Six small stone huts without roofs
Inspiration - Look up the word Clochán on the internet. That is, at least, what I imagine them to look like.
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#8 - Genie in the Bottle
- No particular scenery, except perhaps a golden lamp token
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#9 - The Keep
- Remains of an ancient keep, meaning mostly low walls
- Four discs with a diameter of 2" representing transportation portals
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#10 - The Complex Temple
- Six columns or ruined columns
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#11 - The Orb
- An orb
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#12 - The Ice Storm
- No particular scenery needed
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#13 - The Summoning Bell
- A bell tower
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#14 - The Right Hand and the Left Hand
- A step pyramid
- A golden statue on top
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#15 - The Treasure Phantasmal
- No particular scenery needed
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#16 - The Mine Cart
- A factory complex
- A railroad track
- Several mine carts
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#17 - The Lock Box
- Ruins of a giant warehouse
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#18 - The Steam Vents
- It reads like some sort of underground sewer passage
- A 12" diameter pool with a 3" diameter island in the middle
- 4 grates
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#19 - The Swirling Mist
- Mist tokens
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#20 - The Mine Field
- No particular scenery needed
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THAW OF THE LICH LORD
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#1 - Total Eclipse
- No particular scenery needed
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#2 - Battle on the River
- Two river banks / canal walls
- One large shipwreck, partly submerged
- Several smaller shipwrecks
Product - https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/Etheric-Vortex-Gloomtide-Shipwreck-2018
Top Tip - If you have a snow playmat with no stonework pieces printed on it, you can easily create your own canal walls to act as the river banks and have the playmat be frozen water with snow on top of it. That is what I am going to do, and hopefully I will have a small tutorial up for that soon!
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#3 - Loot the Cart
- A broken-down wagon or cart
Product - http://northstarfigures.com/search.php?query=cart&page=1
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#4 - The Storm of Undeath
- A central plaza 12" long and wide
- Four pillars on the plaza edges
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#5 - Run of the Rangifer
- No particular scenery needed
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#6 - The House of Longreach
- Ruins to represent a vast mansion
- Six magical doorways
- A seperate 1' by 1' (30 cm by 30 cm) "dungeon-esque" table representing a treasure room
- Assorterd furniture pieces
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#7 - Lair of the Ghoul King
- A vast underground chamber comprising of many walls, some still standing, some crumbled.
- Stone and debris piles
- A throne worthy of a Ghoul King
Inspiration - While not a chamber as per the Set-Up of this scenario, you could do worse than check out pictures of my Breeding Pits dungeon here: https://imgur.com/a/KJLbsCr
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#8 - The Dark Cauldron
- A dark cauldron
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#9 - The Bone Wheel
- A wheel-like structure, approximately 6" in diameter, placed on a central axle at approximately eye level, constructed of human bones and leather straps, with 6 victims chained to it
Inspiration - http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=117431.0 Snitcythedog has a wonderful looking bonewheel to get inspired by!
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#10 - The Final Battle
- A floating castle
- A single board edge spanning wall
Top Tip - You can also just imagine your gaming surface to be the floating castle, obviously
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INTO THE BREEDING PITS
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Note - Since these battles take place underground, you can either choose to play in "vast caverns" or large chambers and use the Standard Set-Up, or go for a Dungeon Set-Up using dungeon tiles.
You can find a couple of pictures of my personal, home-made dungeon that I built specifically for this right here: https://imgur.com/a/KJLbsCr
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#1 - The Moving Maze
- Fungus covered ruins (or you can place fungus tokens in the ruins)
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#2 - Here Comes the Flood
- 3" wide sewer canals crossing in the middle
- Numerous small bridges crossing the canal
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#3 - The Breeding Pit
- No particular scenery needed
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#4 - The Rats in the Walls
- No particular scenery needed
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#5 - Mating Season
- No particular scenery needed
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FORGOTTEN PACTS
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#1 - Secrets Uncovered
- Ruins depicting an ancient temple complex
- Amulet treasure token
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#2 - Time Rot
- Ruins depicting an ancient temple complex
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#3 - The Coming of Ambronax
- Ruins depicting an ancient temple complex
- A large altar
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#4 - Enemies Without Number
- Some walls freshly painted with strange symbols
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#5 - Mortal Shells
- Seven standing stones or pillars
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#6 - Rescue the Prince!
- A small altar with a bound person on it
- The same altar without the bound person on it
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#7 - Chamber of Horrors
- Six giant brass telescopes
- Two trapdoors or stairwells down
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#8 - The Burning Sphere
- A pedestal holding a magic sphere
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FROSTGRAVE FOLIO
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Note - Scenarios are simply listed in order of appearance in the book
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#1 - The Attack Site - The Hunt for the Golem
- Corpse markers instead of treasure tokens
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#2 - Field Research - The Hunt for the Golem
- Terrain depicting a once lush garden now turned into a barren, icy wasteland
- Statues
- Fountains
- Monuments
- Eight statues
- Small walls
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#3 - The House of the Golem - The Hunt for the Golem
- Terrain depicting a badly ruined factory where constructs used to be built
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#1 - The Stars are Wrong - Sellsword
- Six pylons or pillars
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#2 - With Magnetic Force - Sellsword
- No particular scenery needed
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#3 - The Pits of Null - Sellsword
- The ruins of a large house
- Five small, identical pits or wells around 2-3" across
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#1 - Alchemical Monstrosity - Dark Alchemy
- A smaller 2' by 2' (60 cm by 60 cm) table depicting an old alchemical factory
- Two doors that function as an exit
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#2 - Skeletal Run - Dark Alchemy
- A 2' by 3' (60 cm by 90 cm) table depicting the ruins of a complex filled with broken vats, ovens and pipes
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#3 - The Spreading Flames - Dark Alchemy
- Flame tokens/markers
- This table could be split into the last part of the factory and Felstad
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#1 - Walenton Manor - Arcane Locations
- Two 3' by 3' (90 cm by 90 cm) tables both depicting a floor of Walenton Manor
- At least three staircases
- At least three trapdoors
- Items you would find in a manor
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#2 - Brycho's Celestium - Arcane Locations
- A three-tiered, circular step pyramid consisting of an 18" bottom tier, a 12" middle tier and a 6" top tier, each approximately 1" high
- Five pillars or pylons
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#3 - The Arena Without Walls - Arcane Locations
- Not much
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#1 - The Pyramid of Decay - The Ravages of Time
- Some kind of ornate casket
- Broken interiour walls
- Piles of rubble
- Ruined furniture
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#2 - Chamber of Thralls - The Ravages of Time
- A 2' by 2' (60 cm by 60 cm) table depicting the second level of the pyramid
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#3 - Battle of the Pyramidion - Ravages of Time
- A 1' by 1' (30 cm by 30 cm) table depicting the upper-most chamber of the pyramid
- A low dais
- Scattered rubble
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THE MAZE OF MALCOR
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#1 - The Relic Room
- Walls on all sides
- One door on each side
- Four display cases per player, each approximately 6" long, 1" wide and 1" tall
- Collapsed elevetad walkway (to view the display cases)
- Two Collegium Porters
Inspiration - http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=116046.0
Product - https://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/epages/950003459.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950003459/Categories/TerraBlocks/Exotic_Location_Sets
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#2 - Feast Hall
- Walls on all sides
- Two doors on each side
- Long dining tables in the middle
- Statues on the sides
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#3 - Aviary
- Walls on all sides
- One door on each side
- The table is basically an indoor jungle with pathways
- Many trees, paths, fountains, statues
Inspiration - http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/wesa/files/styles/x_large/public/201807/after_photo_tropical_rainforest_photo_by_jim_cunningham_photography.jpg
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#4 - Furnace
- Walls on all sides
- One door on each side
- A furnace 6" long and wide in the middle
- Machines, debris and coal scatter terrain
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#5 - The Gondola Docks
- A table edge representing the open side of the sky gondola docks
- Three gondolas plus one for each additional player
- Rubble, crates, barrels
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#6 - The Cloister
- Walls on all sides
- Two doors on each side
- The table is an open air, frozen and snowed in garden
- Six frozen trees
Inspiration - https://cdn.britannica.com/s:700x450/02/140702-004-0CD376A4.jpg
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#7 - The Wheel
- Eight columns
- Six doorways
- Broken furniture
- Strange statues
- Fallen masonry
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#8 - The Echodrome
- Walls on all sides
- Two doors on each side
- The table is a college hall with a podium
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#9 - The Astracarnum
- Walls on all sides
- One door on each side
- The table is a round room of about 14" diameter with 6 telescopes
- Debris and ruined furniture
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#10 - The Bender
- Walls on all sides
- One door on each side
- Dungeon walls between 4" and 8" long to create a dungeon maze
- A studyroom in the middle
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SPELLCASTER MAGAZINE
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#? - The Lair of Gremolean
- Table depicting a vast cavern
- Large rock formations
- Fallen boulders
- Treasure piles (dragon hoard style)
- Bone mounds
- Four large crystals
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Bonus Feature - The Completionist's Appendix to Frostgrave Scenery
Below are scenic items you could create from the flavour texts scattered throughout the books.
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Main Rulebook - 1st edition
p.38 - A tall tower with a flashing green light on top
Inspiration - http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=115168.0
p.99 - A very tall ladder, standing by itself, leading nowhere in particular. Make it at least 20 cm. long
p.104 - A ruined temple with giant, collapsed columns, with in the middle many frozen ghosts
p.106 - A library of inscribed slabs of rock, each about the size of a man and a half
Thaw of the Lich Lord
p.6 - A bottomless pool of water
p.12 - A little greenhouse, seemingly untouched by the cold, filled with flowers of all colours
p.20 - A carousel of skeletal horses
p.26 - A building with a ruined ceiling, from which headless corpses are hanging, their feet frozen to the ceiling
p.47 - a cube, roughly 30 cm. by 30 cm., filled with holes from which honey comes dripping (let's just assume it is a hallucination spell of sorts, shall we?)
Into the Breeding Pits
p.16 - A giant glass cylinder filled with solid ice and fish swimming around (good luck!)
p.21 - A bottomless pit
p.24 - A table depicting an arena, with a frozen audience
p.40 - A tiled wall, each tile with a rune painted on it
Forgotten Pacts
p.16 - A stained glass window built into the floor
p.24 - A spherical cage made of steel snakes
p.32 - A floating ship, hovering above the ground, icicles hanging from it
p.34 - An abandoned catapult
p.44 - A location holding hundreds of potions
p.52 - A lighthouse inside another building
The Maze of Malcor
p.8 - A rusted plaque found on a courtyard
p.13 - Many barrels of poisoned beer
p.15 - A human sized book, bound together with chains
p.24 - A fire chasm
p.40 - Two doors, one with 732 locks (good luck)
p.45 - A giant glass orb with a comfortable chair inside of it in an otherwise empty room
p.64 - A construct made of gold crowns
p.71 - An inscribed archway
p.81 - A marble statue with a blood dripping heart in its hands
p.84 - A giant anchor attached to the wall by a massive rope
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I think this thread is a great idea. I'll grab my rulebook and read the scenarios carefully again. Maybe i can have a try.
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Thanks! I am currently building a small ruin, and I am hopefully getting some new material later today with which I can build the canal banks for the Battle on the River, which will be an interesting thing to build and share pictures of.
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My idea is to try the silent tower but that might be a too tough nut, for a wannabe terrain maker, like me. But i sketch a plan first and then hope i can do it.
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If I can offer a very unhelpful tip as a slightly more advanced terrain maker, is don't overthink it nor underthink it.
The most important part in the planning on a scenery project is your choice of material, as that will dictate what you can achieve and more importantly how you can achieve it.
I don't think the silent tower is extremely difficult, just rather large. By far the most important decision is what material you will use.
These for example should make your life real easy, while not being overly expensive: http://www.greenstuffworld.com/en/104-model-bricks
I wouldn't use it for a straight wall section, as I can make those easier and cheaper and still good looking enough, but these could be quite high on my list for a round tower.
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10" diameter is quite big for a piece of homebuilt terrain, but depending on where you live you might be able to get heavy cardboard tubes that size at a building supply store - they are used as forms for pouring concrete footings.
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Thanks guys for your tips and ideas. My material is the blue styrofoam with 20 mm thickness.
Well with 10" or 254 mm it will be big, that's true.
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I have officially begun working on a huge piece of scenery for the scenario The Living Museum. Obviously will be usable for other scenarios as well, but it will be a 12" by 12" ruin with plenty of room in the middle for the 6 statues. I also finished a small piece of regular scenery today, I will be uploading pics of that tomorrow.
Anyone else working on scenery from the list? Anyone have a book that I don't have yet, to add to the list?
It's going to be a fun build from a gameplay point of view as well. Since it is built atop a "rock" of 5cm high, with only the stair on the front giving access, things like Leap will grant you a fun advantage.
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This might be very helpful some day. I am fascinated by the maritime objects there - a floating ship and a lighthous in a building...
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I started making a list for the Lost Colossus campaign, and I think I gave up at the second scenario because it has so many large and specific pieces that it's just completely impossible.
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I don't make progress with the Silent Tower. Because i was busy. Maybe i should try something smaller for the Start.
Edit: I have the Maze of Malcor here. You want to add the Campaign Scenarios, daniel?
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This might be very helpful some day. I am fascinated by the maritime objects there - a floating ship and a lighthous in a building...
Thanks! Yeah, it can be helpful when you are stuck for ideas and here you can easily skim for scenery that also has a purpose.
I started making a list for the Lost Colossus campaign, and I think I gave up at the second scenario because it has so many large and specific pieces that it's just completely impossible.
Well, even if I DO make it to the end of the list and have every piece of scenery herewith listed, it'll probably take me a good few years, but it's a nice list to have for reference, if anything.
I don't make progress with the Silent Tower. Because i was busy. Maybe i should try something smaller for the Start.
Edit: I have the Maze of Malcor here. You want to add the Campaign Scenarios, daniel?
Starting small is probably a good idea! Especially since you are going to need more "basic" scenery pieces anyways, if you want a good filled table.
Yes, please do tell me what specific scenery the Maze of Malcor has! I probably won't get the book very soon, and it would be nice to have the list ready before that.
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Ok i have to read it first. There 12 scenarios and aftermath. Well i'll do it tomorrow Daniel. I'm too tired today. Hope it's ok.
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Here is my version of the stone huts. A very quick build - rather self explanatory
Materials needed
- Cardboard tube
- MDF (for the bases)
- your choice of base texturing mix
- textured paint (inside of the hut)
- air draying clay (for the outside)
Cut the carboard tube to the desired height, add a doorway.
Roll out a thin layer of air-drying clay, texture it with one of the many "stamping tools" that are available these days. Press the textured slab of clay to the outside, cut of excess, rework the texture a bit where there's an overlap. Alternatively add the clay to the tube first and apply texture tool later. Inscribing the texture manually will also work when there's no stamping tool in you collection.
Glue onto the MDF-base and paint the inside with textured paint and texture the base.
Let dry and paint.
I finished construction in a couple of hours (2-3 max. I think) . Not the greatest looking terrain, but serviceable.
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#3 - The Silent Tower
- A ruined tower, at least 10" in diameter, at least three stories high
- Two smaller ruined buildings with walkways running from their top to either the first or second floor of the tower
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I interpreted this differently, I thought the height should at least be 10" I'm not a native speaker so maybe the 10" refers to the diameter - this is the exact phrasing in the rulebook.
A ruined tower, at least 10” and 3 stories high, should be placed in the centre of the board.
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You might be right, actually. I have misread it. Thanks for the clarification!
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I interpreted this differently, I thought the height should at least be 10" I'm not a native speaker so maybe the 10" refers to the diameter - this is the exact phrasing in the rulebook.
I'm no native speaker and have misunderdstood it at first, too.
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Yeah, I am editing it right now. And of course it is okay Tungdil, you don't have to do anything you don't have the energy or time for.
Thanks for all the help anyways, and Gnomehome, those are some excellent huts!! I love them!
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I read it again and try to shorten the Text. Because i can't write down the whole book here.
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Yeah, you don't have to type over the entire book, just the basics of the scenery requirements.
Now, I did look at Malcor in a Youtube book review, and I do know that the scenery requirements are a lot more detailed than they were in the other books, so I won't hold it against you if you have to take your time.
Actually, I remember having written down some of the scenery requirements as I paused the video. I might already have some of them ready. I will have to take a look where I wrote those down.
Edit: Found them. I have the scenery requirements for Scenarios 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9 and 10.
I will make a headstart, but if you see something that is wrong, let me know.
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It's more text, that's true. But it's good that you have the Video. You can check up what i write down here, later. Because i don't wan't to spread rubbish.
Edit: Ok i look at scenarios 1,5,7,11 and 12 first.
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You might find this useful guys - http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=90104.msg1112929#msg1112929
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Thanks, I will add the link to the list!
Update: Added several of the scenarios found in The Maze of Macor (not all of them yet)
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Daniel you have 3 pm's. With scenario Set-ups. The last 2 follows tommorrow.
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Thanks! Receiving it this way was very helpful! Added to the list!
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I figured I might as well use this thread to show off my Frostgrave scenery as well!
This here is how I built a standard scenery piece. It was a test piece, but I think it turned out well.
(https://i.imgur.com/WgEWKsX.jpg)
I started with a basic outline of the floor. It was going to be raised a bit.
(https://i.imgur.com/2IGYz6h.jpg)
Next I made the outlines for the walls. Now, I don't like foamcore for stone ruins, but this was going to be the middle part of three pieces, the other two were going to be of the handy foam I also used in my dungeon build.
(https://i.imgur.com/DA9jJ5I.jpg)
As you can see here. One thing I ALWAYS dislike about otherwise good looking commercial ruined buildings is that they are too thin. I wanted my walls to actually look like thick walls. These are roughly 1,5 cm thick this way.
(https://i.imgur.com/VHTEJou.jpg)
It also makes it easy to "dryfit" your scenery as it won't fall over, plus the foamcore... core... makes it very sturdy.
(https://i.imgur.com/5lVqWAX.jpg)
Looks about right for a standard piece of scenery.
(https://i.imgur.com/lEwqRJW.jpg)
Time to draw in the wall. This stuff is perfect for it, as it doesn't damage very quickly but is still easy to apply effects to. An aluminium ball will give me the rocky texture I want.
(https://i.imgur.com/T3mMZOG.jpg)
In hindsight, I could've made the lines a bit more straight, as up close it looks kind of fake, but hey, it was a test piece so there you have it, lesson learned.
(https://i.imgur.com/J8i6NQR.jpg)
It is starting to take shape. Sure, the edges are a bit wonky, but whatever...
(https://i.imgur.com/6Wqkfdg.jpg)
At first I was going to cut out the middle and replace it with the grey stuff, but it turned out removing the paper would give me what I was after as well. It ended up looking good enough.
(https://i.imgur.com/cbVteqO.jpg)
Almost there!
(https://i.imgur.com/wT4PTux.jpg)
Here you can see how I used additional pieces of foamcore to raise the building up and also give the illusion of snow building up against the sides.
(https://i.imgur.com/1dseyN8.jpg)
Some bark pieces for exposed rock pieces, lots of PVA glue and simple sand. This part took a while.
(https://i.imgur.com/zxcBRNV.jpg)
Dirt cheap, simple black and white acrylic paint for the ruins, and just the white paint for the snow. It cost nothing and it looks absolutely fantastic, if I may say so myself.
(https://i.imgur.com/c5JwePO.jpg)
My only gripe right now is that the snow doesn't go high enough against the walls, so I need a solution for that which won't require 400 layers of PVA glue.
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It's a cool looking ruined house. It turns out very well and the snow adds the Frostgrave feeling realy good.
Question about the Alu Ball. You rub it over the Wall?
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Yes, I press pretty hard. Works even better on bluefoam, but then bluefoam also damages more easily.
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This is a great idea! I have been thinking about something like this myself. I will get some pics together and share what I have created too. Thank you.
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Yes, please do! If you like, add them in this thread. That way people can get inspiration from different people all in one thread.
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I came across a preview page of one of the Spellcaster Magazines, for the dragon scenario. It had the scenery requirements in there, so I updated the list to include this scenario's requirements.
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Really like your list! I have the Ghost Archipelago book, I may go through and make a terrain plan list now too. And for Lost Colossus when it arrives in the mail.
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Now that I am the proud owner of the book The Maze of Malcor, I was able to add the flavour text scenery ideas to the list, so the list is now updated.
If you have any pictures of your work you want to share, please do! :)
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Thanks for keeping and updatng the list. It's very useful, especially when I don't have the books on me.
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Thanks! I kind of like to try and get most of the "official" scenic pieces one day, so this list is handy for me, and I might as well share it with others, right?
Plus this way at least I still do something hobby related, as right now I am not really painting or playing much of anything.
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My gaming is pretty stagnant at the moment too, alas.
I try to follow a different path and scratchbuild as much scenery as I can for as little cost as possible ;D
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Oh yeah, I mean that too, scratchbuilt, but official in the sense of whatever the scenarios ask, as in the "right" flavour.
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Ah, gotcha!
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Very useful Daniel, many thanks.
MIlo.
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No problem! Glad you find it useful!
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http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=116046.0 - This here museum thread has sparked some newfound enthusiasm, so I added them to the list in one of the Malcor scenarios.
As of myself, I haven't had a lot of time to do much with my hobby as of late, with life and other endeavours being in the way. Who knows I will be able to pick it up again in a few months time.
In the meantime, I continue to check the forum here for possible additions to the list.
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I have this thread bookmark because I eventually plan on trying to make the various scenery. Good job in collecting it all in one place. Lately my focus has been on making stuff for Rangers of Shadowdeep and more general odds and ends. Once I get more of it done I'll be back at the Frostgrave scenery. It'll work for other games and scenarios too.
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Extremely useful thread - perhaps dangerously so... lol
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Can anyone point me to a miniatures line that has Statues or give me some ideas for some cool figures I can bronze or granite paint into statues?
I have searched some forums and some people have resin cast some actual statues but nobody ever responded to where they got the statues. Over at Hirst Arts there are some excellent pictures of statues but again no response as to where they were sourced.
Ideas welcome.
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I just used any minis I had no use for. I roughed them up a bit and chopped off the odd limb and then painted them a stoney colour. You could get some cheapsh minis from the Reaper Bones line maybe.
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For larger statues I used some Reaper Bones minis and a Mantic Elohim as statues. I was thinking of doing the same thing like jp1885 with man sized extras too but haven't got around to it yet.
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I updated the list with a link to Snitcythedog's wonderful Bonewheel. :)
Cheers!