Lead Adventure Forum

Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: wrgmr1 on October 24, 2018, 06:19:36 AM

Title: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on October 24, 2018, 06:19:36 AM: I've started a 1945 winter game, British and Germans. Here are some trees, hedges and buildings. Next up fields and roads.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/923/tUBTe0.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/924/KIdiyN.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/921/lCnMTA.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/924/PyhXFA.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/921/7RMMMI.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/924/kc4Vn0.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on October 24, 2018, 10:18:56 AM: Nice.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Mad Lord Snapcase on October 24, 2018, 10:45:41 AM: Looking great. :-*
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Ballardian on October 25, 2018, 04:12:01 PM: Good looking scenery :)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on October 26, 2018, 10:33:12 PM: Thanks Gents!
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: SABOT on October 26, 2018, 11:34:22 PM: Great start. I will be keeping a keen eye on this project as it develops.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on October 27, 2018, 09:13:07 PM: Moving forward with this, here is the first terrain board of six.
Grass is from Michael’s Leemax Hollween Collection. It’s a mesh covered with moss, glued to MDF, dry brushed white, white glue and Woodlands Scenics Soft Flake Snow sprinkled on. Rubber road covered with snow mash and again sprinkled with Snow Flake. Just an example shot of terrain placed on the board to see how it all looks.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/921/ky0J2a.jpg)

Also beginning of fence, matchsticks and coffee stir sticks cut to length.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/469x626q90/923/Cjz6wi.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on December 11, 2018, 12:15:59 AM: I spent some time scratch building some barbed wire roads fences and a back yard for the blacksmith shop for The Battle of Kievelburg, Jan 1945. The Americans south of here are in the Battle of the Bulge, while the British sectors are fairly quiet. The Germans pushed into this unoccupied village in the night and The Sherwood Rangers Yeomanry are tasked to take it back. This is from David Renders book Tank Action. Rule set Rapid Fire. Of course it could really be used for anywhere.
This is one of six boards. It is a representation of what it will look like.Here are a couple of photos.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/475x356q90/924/hWOIX6.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/475x356q50/924/25UV5S.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/475x356q90/922/tIJ4O3.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/475x356q90/921/6GmMTb.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/922/6QgJpZ.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Wildman II on December 13, 2018, 11:06:47 PM: Very nice. I wish I had the energy to do a project like this.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on December 19, 2018, 10:23:18 PM: Thanks! Slow and steady is my motto.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: traveller on December 20, 2018, 06:49:37 AM: Looks great! and cold!!! :-*
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: flatpack on December 20, 2018, 07:11:57 AM: Looks that realistic, I’d have to game it wearing a wooly hat and scarf.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Sunjester on December 20, 2018, 07:26:16 AM: That's looking fantastic!
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on December 23, 2018, 06:29:21 PM: Cheers Gents!
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on December 24, 2018, 07:48:02 PM: Hello Gents,
Working on German winter infantry. Comments are welcome!

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/923/Huoofw.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/922/Wf4tCR.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/922/KScPH4.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: flatpack on December 25, 2018, 08:08:20 AM: What make are the figures ?
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on December 25, 2018, 08:42:27 PM: Originally Sgt Major Miniatures, but they closed down.
Early War Miniatures picked up this line.

https://earlywarminiatures.com/product-category/late-war-1943-1945/late-war-1943-to-1945-german-army-1943-to-1945/late-war-grenadiers/
(https://earlywarminiatures.com/product-category/late-war-1943-1945/late-war-1943-to-1945-german-army-1943-to-1945/late-war-grenadiers/)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Redmist1122 on December 27, 2018, 04:18:10 AM: I've done some winter Germans and added some SS Camo scheme mixed in with the various combos from smocks to pants. On the winter smocks, you can do the camo scheme inside the hood, then a mix/match of both winter and camo.

Oh, the terrain looks pretty good too!
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on December 27, 2018, 11:41:03 PM: Thanks Greg.

Yes, this is my version of the Heer swamp 44 on some of the figures jackets and pants.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/769x577q90/924/3oKAlP.jpg)

A tad too much red brown are my thoughts.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Redmist1122 on December 30, 2018, 05:36:27 AM: From the pics, they look pretty good. I would use that.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on December 31, 2018, 04:37:56 AM: Cheers Redmist!

I actually cut back on the red brown. I'll post photos when they are done,.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Redmist1122 on January 01, 2019, 04:20:15 PM: Looking forward to the next wave of figs.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on January 15, 2019, 05:35:51 AM: After a week of no painting, I finally have almost finished these winter Heer figures. Just the boots and a final check.

Not what some of you can do, but decent enough for my table.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/922/5CbOyc.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/921/93cze1.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/922/eKIzxH.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/922/NH9aHs.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/922/i1npjE.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on January 22, 2019, 03:10:11 AM: Finished Heer Infantry. Figures by Sgt Major's now sold by EWM.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/922/oiCaIu.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/923/IYxDEo.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/924/uiPAzo.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/922/sNETRy.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project Try Again
Post by: wrgmr1 on January 22, 2019, 09:31:36 PM: Further work on this project.

All the vehicles in the first photo are slated for winterizing.

First up, Tiger 1.

First white wash on the Tiger 1, using Vallejo white wash with added white paint, as it's too thin.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/922/JgMmOQ.jpg)

Added mud.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/924/HOjF5z.jpg)

Then detailing and snow. 75mm pak 50 on the left.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/924/RGYI9k.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/922/uqgM5F.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/923/6HrjG4.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on January 23, 2019, 08:38:02 AM: ~~Not sure why, but tiger is missing!~~

I can~~not~~ now see the photographs.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Redmist1122 on January 25, 2019, 01:11:29 AM: Wow! A very nice collection to be proud of...great show.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on January 26, 2019, 10:11:46 AM: Nice Tiger.

You might want to add some more track armour to those Shermans lurking in the background...
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=97132.msg1434366#msg1434366 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=97132.msg1434366#msg1434366)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on January 26, 2019, 09:41:27 PM: Cheers Gents!

Ultravanillasmurf! Quite the track job on that one.

Here are some photos of Sherwood Ranger Yeomanry tanks.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/934x626q90/921/XR8NgA.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/864x626q90/922/02ZBWY.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: jamesmanto on January 26, 2019, 11:08:34 PM: Nice work!
I'm getting a chill just looking at your terrain!
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: FreakyFenton on January 27, 2019, 10:39:18 PM: Very cool indeed! :D

Pardon the pun, but outstanding work and lovely terrain!
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on January 28, 2019, 04:56:23 PM: FreakyFenton: love the pun! Thanks!
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on January 28, 2019, 06:24:14 PM: Vehicles finished for the winter game.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/923/sA36vL.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/924/mIgkJe.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/924/21gGSE.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: FreakyFenton on January 28, 2019, 06:51:27 PM: Good stuff! ;D Like them all!
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on January 29, 2019, 06:23:29 AM: Cheers FF!

Close ups.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/922/cu7YNu.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/834x626q90/923/0TgJmj.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: FreakyFenton on January 29, 2019, 01:22:26 PM: Nice PaK! :o
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on January 29, 2019, 05:20:32 PM: Cheers FF!

PSC 75mm Pak 50. Sgt Majors crew.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: FreakyFenton on January 29, 2019, 07:39:23 PM: Oof, still have loads of 1:72 stuff. Changed scale though, I like 28mm better. Personal opinion as I like to get overly detailed sometimes.

But PSC is good, the Hanomag is the downscaled version of Warlord's methinks, or vice versa, just downscaled.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on January 30, 2019, 12:55:49 AM: I had a bunch of 28mm WW2 but our rather large group was not interested and the scale is more for skirmish games. So I sold them all a few years ago. If you have 1:72 you don't want maybe I could buy or trade you for some?
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: jamesmanto on January 30, 2019, 03:18:52 AM: Does it hurt to fully paint a tank and then whitewash over it?
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on January 30, 2019, 08:15:07 AM: Quote from: FreakyFenton on January 29, 2019, 07:39:23 PM
But PSC is good, the Hanomag is the downscaled version of Warlord's methinks, or vice versa, just downscaled.
The PSC are the original, the Warlord are (sort of) upscaled.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: FreakyFenton on January 30, 2019, 01:59:30 PM: Oh blimey! Didn't know that, thanks UVS!
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on January 30, 2019, 05:32:51 PM: Jamesmanto - I spray all my finished vehicles with an acrylic gloss coat then Dullcoat after it is dry. The snow application was put on after a coat of Vallejo Chipping Medium seen in one of the photos. This allows you to chip the paint or rub it off with a bit of water.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: James Morris on January 30, 2019, 08:29:35 PM: Loving the scenery. I keep getting tempted to make a winter cloth!
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on February 01, 2019, 10:33:50 PM: Cheers James!
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on February 18, 2019, 06:27:35 PM: Hello Gents,
Continuing with this project are 40 British Late War AB Miniature figures in leather jerkin.
I decided that I wanted a rather darker looking uniform so the base coat is Vallejo 871 Leather Brown. highlight is 921 English Uniform 2/3, Leather Brown 1/3.
Unfortunately AB has not produced heavy weapons in winter kit yet so I have them in battle dress only.

Base coat:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/833x625q90/922/8stiK8.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/833x625q90/923/sYUWgj.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/833x625q90/923/WoaMNh.jpg)

Highlight:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/833x625q90/921/DV0eWT.jpg)

I wanted quite a reddish brown leather jerkin so I used as a base coat Liquitex Burnt Umber then highlighted with Vallejo 828 wood grain.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/833x625q90/923/Bj64Gn.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/833x625q90/923/WZqD5x.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: FreakyFenton on February 18, 2019, 11:31:58 PM: Thus far nice progress! Can't wait to see them painted up. :D
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Ash on February 18, 2019, 11:36:45 PM: Very nice, colour choices look the part. Good job.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: tuco74 on February 19, 2019, 10:06:11 AM: I'm loving this thread although it is stoking my desire to get into 20mm...
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on February 20, 2019, 05:05:28 PM: Cheers Gents!
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on March 05, 2019, 05:59:03 AM: Continuing with winter game project.
Webbing Vallejo Russian Uniform 924, highlight 1/3 Iraqi sand 829 and 2/3 Russian Uniform. Helmets are Americana Plantation Pine, Highlight will be 1/3 Americana Hauser Light Green 2/3 Plantation Pine and Delta Ceramcoat Warm White for the white covers. Lee Enfield wood stock is Vallejo Leather Brown, 1/4 English Uniform 1/4 and Burnt Umber 1/2.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/833x625q90/921/jve1mo.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/833x625q90/922/GAbWfe.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/833x625q90/923/ObMX0Y.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: TacticalPainter on March 05, 2019, 06:08:27 AM: Nice to see some of the new AB figures, they look great. You are making a winter project very tempting.....
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: FreakyFenton on March 06, 2019, 05:44:16 PM: Agreeing with the above! Don't make me buy WinterBrits with that nice painting! lol ;)

Cracking work!
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on March 09, 2019, 08:01:05 PM: Thanks Gents!
These boys are just about done. Painting boots and basing.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/922/EzWDFP.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/922/bCkqHe.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/923/MtS7vj.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/924/kmRdGX.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/921/3ISm3r.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/922/HSkOVv.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on March 10, 2019, 08:18:41 AM: Nice work.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on March 11, 2019, 05:04:54 AM: Finally decided the boards I was going to use would not work, so I bought a mat from Deep Cut Studio. I set up the game and took some photos to see how it looked.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/923/jxrkac.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/921/5Cpwl3.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/922/bs1n4s.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/921/jS2NxP.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/924/DDRc2C.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/922/oMNyru.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/921/3Lokfh.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/923/LeNfV2.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/924/fXWy8p.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/923/YaZIwA.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/922/Vwe0ZH.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/921/ALlUfr.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on March 11, 2019, 08:19:04 AM: Suitably chilly.

So that is just a mat with scenery on top?
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Ash on March 11, 2019, 08:27:07 AM: That all works rather well together. Great looking table - actually looks cold.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: FreakyFenton on March 11, 2019, 02:57:18 PM: The mat was well worth it! Looks suitably cool. lol :o

And please, easy on the tomatoes for that bad pun.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Charles the Modeller on March 11, 2019, 03:58:31 PM: Absolutely amazing stuff. The figures are fantastic and I’m loving your scratch built stuff!
The mat and terrain are superb! Let us know how the game went!

CtM
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on March 11, 2019, 04:33:28 PM: Thanks Gents.
I actually didn’t play a game. Just took photos.
This is the first time the whole board was put together.
I’ll be play testing it soon.
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on March 13, 2019, 08:05:20 PM: Thanks for all your kind comments gents!

These boys are done. This project is near completion. I have a vignette of a German Goulash wagon and some Stg Major's after the battle figures to paint up.

Any suggestions as to how to improve the above layout is welcome.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/921/VPAihn.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/923/FYY84u.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/923/AKvPEa.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: Tony Barton on March 24, 2019, 04:10:39 PM: Love all the scenic work, extremely well done.
AB have produced a set of British heavy weapons, with Vickers and 3" mortar, wearing winter kit: sorry if you missed it , but it's been out for at least a year.
We are also ( cough) now producing winter Germans both in greatcoats and padded suits, should you by any chance be running short !
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: FreakyFenton on March 24, 2019, 05:13:35 PM: Lovely detail on the helmets! I'm amazed that you manage to, that scale was too eye puzzley for me! o_o

Also, cracking job on the table! :D
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on March 24, 2019, 06:19:44 PM: Thanks for you kind words Gents!

Tony -
Quote
AB have produced a set of British heavy weapons, with Vickers and 3" mortar, wearing winter kit: sorry if you missed it , but it's been out for at least a year.

Dang it! Ok, heading to your website now. ;) I love the detail you sculpt into your figures. Fantastic to paint. I would love to see some Kangaroo or tank riders in Jerkin, also winter Russians? :-*
I also painted shoulder flashes on their shoulders, forgot to do this.....

Cheers, Thomas
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on March 25, 2019, 06:16:33 AM: Adding a small vignette to the game. A Goulash wagon.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/921/F7JtgV.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/768x576q90/923/JrBiIc.jpg)
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: FreakyFenton on March 25, 2019, 10:16:51 AM: Hey, great work on the Gulaschkanone/Feldkochherd!

Argueably the most important bit of kit when out in the cold. lol
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: wrgmr1 on March 25, 2019, 05:47:07 PM: Cheers! Thanks for the accurate name!
Title: Re: 20mm Winter Game Project
Post by: FreakyFenton on March 26, 2019, 08:56:41 AM: Oh, it's the german one, I believe your description was correct as well. ;)