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Miniatures Adventure => Pulp => Topic started by: oldskoolrebel on June 01, 2009, 08:01:55 PM
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Hey all I've been doing a bit of work on a hopefully upcoming pulp game, I'm afraid that I cannot currently share any pictures with you as my camera is in the repair shop.
I've almost finished one miniature; Dr Marcus himself. Still complete the highlights (My first ever pulp figure!)
another 20 figures have been cleaned and based, just awaiting priming.
I'm just finished laying sand down on my 2'x3' board, and hopefully tomorrow night I'll shake off the excess and seal it ready for painting on Thursday.
I've also been working on some of the characters, details of which can be found here (http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaign/dr-marcus-and-the-strange-case-of-the-nazis-in-cairo/npc-tracker). The system that we're using in .45 Adventures, and as I've never played it before can someone tell me if these characters are under or overpowered?
Thanks
Andrew
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I've also been working on some of the characters, details of which can be found here (http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaign/dr-marcus-and-the-strange-case-of-the-nazis-in-cairo/npc-tracker). The system that we're using in .45 Adventures, and as I've never played it before can someone tell me if these characters are under or overpowered?
Took a look at them and they look like a good mix of skills and firepower. Will all these characters be on the same side or on competing sides?
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Hey Operator,
I might have added more since you last looked :D.
It was Gamermac that introduced us to the game; and he split us into two different group which was OK although most games ended in both sides trying to kill each other. His brother then ran a few games where it was a co-operative this in my opinion worked well for us. The size of the group (there are 10 of us including the GM) affects what we can actually run/play.
I've split the 9 character's into two groups who for the most part will be working together.
Group 1 is the University of Chicago Archaeology Society, a band of treasure hunters and yes you guessed it archaeologists which includes:
1) Dr Marcus
2) Professor Harun Al-Omar
3) Jack Avery
4) Sarah O’Connell
5) William “Wullie” Murphy
Group two is the American International Intelligence Agency, a shadowy agency which does not officially exist (S.P.I.E.S ;)). Group 2 consists of:
1) Captain Howard Black
2) Sergeant Max Simpson
3) (ex-private) Hugh Johnson
4) Specialist Travis Roberts
I don't want to say too much about the scenarios as G-Mac is probably about- not that there is anything here that he shouldn't read lol
More biographical details of our heroes to follow...
Cheers
Andy
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The only reason I ask is that, and I am sure you have dealt with this already, you need to keep the players challenged and that many Grade 3s can be tough.
I am going to PM you so GM doesn't see what I'm about to write. :D
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Well, your blog certainly looks promising. Inform us when the campaign starts rolling.
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@ Operator 5: Thanks for the PM :D
@ Doomhippie, I shall don't worry.. I'll also hopefully start to upload pictures where when I get my camera fixed!
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Has anybody else got that spooky feeling that someone is talking behind your back. :o
No :?
It must be just me.
Hello Andy and Richard lol lol lol
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Has anybody else got that spooky feeling that someone is talking behind your back. :o
No :?
It must be just me.
Hello Andy and Richard lol lol lol
It's just paranoia Colin! Honest ;). You should join Obsidian Portal, its free plus you can there upload 2 campaigns, join mine and place comments etc. Have a look around and see what you think.
OK so good news I got my new paints delivered today, just finished the second coat of watered down pva on the board (and cleaned up the 'escaped' sand phew that was a big job) but sadly behind on the priming of models. I won't get a chance to do anything tonight sadly nor tomorrow. Looks like it will need to be Thursday! Argh!
Thanks
Andy
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Got some good and bad news.
Bad news first. My Compact Digi is going to cost at least £80 to repair, so I'm now looking to buy another one! (Damn Electrical Problems!)
Good news is that today's been rather productive... I'm halfway through painting my desert board, primed 21 miniatures, and started to paint 3. The board will need another coat before the final drybrush, the miniatures have been 'blocked' in, so now I've to highlight and wash. It's a pity that I cannot take a picture of them- however they're not that well painted. I'm incredibly envious of the paint skills of others on this forum.
On a happy note, I'm going to Alton Towers tomorrow with my work- an entire day of hair-raising rides... great fun! :D
Thanks
Andy
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I've spent some time working on the Campaign, so far I've started to paint the 9 characters, each of these are at a different stage;
Dr Marcus: Almost finished; need to fix eyes and highlight
Professor Harum: Complete need to finish large areas especially the robes, and skin.
Jack Avery: I've now completed the shade colours, now just need to add the medium tone and highlights.
Sarah: Still require alot of work, only painted some shade/base colours
Wullie: Almost completed the base colours
Captain Black: Yet to start....
Srgt Max Simpson: Yet to start...
Hugh Johnston: Almost finished; need to paint eyes and some highlights
Specialist Travis Roberts: Don't even have a model yet! I need an American soldier (WW2) armed with a pistol and a satchel charge (or just a pistol).
Cheers
Andy
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I've attached a progress picture... please be nice ;D
Still got a lot to do, I've been working on Professor Harun and Dr Marcus. Please excuse Marcus's eyes... I'm not very good at eyes. Dr Marcus is the first pulp miniature that i've painted, so please be nice.
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt24/oldskoolrebel/campaigns/45adv/Harunandmarcus.jpg) (http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt24/oldskoolrebel/campaigns/45adv/Harunandmarcus.jpg)
Obviously I've alot of tidying up to do, and I need to develop my painting skills. They're currently really bad. It might be worth pointing out that I've not really painted much before this.
Any Hints and tips would be great!
Cheers
Andy
EDIT: Ouch the Pictures look terrible! Additionally Prof. Harun's robes aren't white...
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Andy,
they are not so bad, really.
If you have difficluties in painting eyes... well, don't do it! ;)
A dark shadow is enough!
Usually our figures are seen from minimum 1 meter (a little more the a yard) away.
So, my first suggestion is to paint them trying to obtain a good effect from 1 meter away.
This means: do not stick too much on tiny details, and add a "stronger" highlight than in the real thing, to obtain a more "moved" figure.
Just my 2 cents... :)
Anyway, keep on with your good work!
Marco
PD Digital pictures are really the painter nightmare, because their huge pixel definition is able to pinpoint also the minimum mistake... so, don't trust in pics, but on your own feeling.
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Andy,
I think for a non-painter you are doing quite well. It takes quite a bit of practice to get to the level of some of the painters here.
Marco has a good point about quality. A figure up close will show details differently than a figure on a game table. Don't spend too much time with details that can only be seen from 6 inches away. You may want to experiment with some inks or washes. By brushing them over an area you can soften or blend a highlight. And there is no need to spend lots of money on custom ones. You can make your own washes just by watering down your own paint. It will take time to find the right ratio for you, but it can also be quite satisfying.
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Thanks all for the advice, My photographs seem a bit on the large side compared to several others on the site so I've reduced their size. I hope they look better.
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt24/oldskoolrebel/campaigns/45adv/Harunandmarcus2.jpg)
cheers
Andy
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Andy,
if you would like to try with homemade washes, remember to add just a drop of liquid soap to the water used to dilute the paint (assuming that you're using acrilics).
This will break the surface tension of the water, allowing the wash to run smootly in the folds, and avoiding the stains of colour that otherways happen.
Ciao! :)
Marco
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Andy
Now you have seen the problems I am having taking photographs. lol
I have seen these figures in the flesh so to speak and the photos don’t do them justice.
These are some of the first figures Andy has painted. They are a lot better than my first attempts which had only single flat colours with no highlights or shading. (Andy you will have seen some because we still use some of them as DnD characters)
The Prof Harun figure is very nicely highlighted and as stated above will look good from the normal viewing distance. Digital photography is a pain. :'(
These ones are getting better and better every time I see them. (I’ll not talk about the fluorescent American sniper ;))
“Practice makes perfect” as the saying goes. :D
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Andy
Acouple of picture from the LPL for reference for American uniforms.
GI's
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/577_31_05_09_8_01_31_4.jpg)
Airborne
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/2/577_10_05_09_7_37_57_3.jpg)
I am sure if you search throuh the forum or the web you can find loads of others
Colin
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I have painted the US infantry in gamer Mac first photo. If you need infos on the colors I used I have taken notes while painting them so I can post it here if you need to.
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Another picture, this time of Jack Avery... Please excuse the painting and photography skills, this one is just a quick shot.
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt24/oldskoolrebel/campaigns/45adv/jackavery.jpg)
Yup still not finished, I'm not sure of the skin it looks too pink. I've been using GW Dwarf Flesh with a GW Ogryn flesh wash, what else can I do to make it look better? Perhaps highlight with elf flesh? Or am I using the wrong base?
Andy
Now you have seen the problems I am having taking photographs. lol
I have seen these figures in the flesh so to speak and the photos don’t do them justice.
These are some of the first figures Andy has painted. They are a lot better than my first attempts which had only single flat colours with no highlights or shading. (Andy you will have seen some because we still use some of them as DnD characters)
The Prof Harun figure is very nicely highlighted and as stated above will look good from the normal viewing distance. Digital photography is a pain. :'(
These ones are getting better and better every time I see them. (I’ll not talk about the fluorescent American sniper ;))
“Practice makes perfect” as the saying goes. :D
Wow might praise indeed, thanks Colin. Photographing the models brought home to me just how untidy a painter I was, and how many mistakes I made although it was still a shock. I've still got a very very long way to go to be anywhere near your or your brother standard! :D
As for photography, wow its difficult. I thought that I could take an OK photograph but this is something else. Plus I'm using a borrowed compact which isn't ideal- eventually I'll get the camera of my dreams!
I have painted the US infantry in gamer Mac first photo. If you need infos on the colors I used I have taken notes while painting them so I can post it here if you need to.
Actually Calimero, that would be fantastic although sadly I'm limited in what colours I have. Although I could try and pick some new colours up :D
Cheers
Andy
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Here they are... All color are from Vallejo’s Model color serie except those cited otherwise…
Helmet = Brown Violet
Helmet Chin Straps = Red Leather
Uniform coat = Khaki, Citadel’s Thraka Green Wash, Khaki highlight
Trousers = US Field Drab, Dark Brown painted in the recess, 50/50 US Field Drab and US Tan Earth mix highlight
Boots = Leather Brown
Gaiter and equipment = Khaki from the Game Color range (which is closer to Buff than that the Khaki of the Model Color serie)
Wood part of the weapons = Mahogany Brown
Metal part of the weapons = Citadel’s Chaos Black, highlight of a 50/50 blue and grey mix
Flesh = Vallejo’s Game Color Elf Skin, Citadel’s Ogryn Flesh Wash, Elf Skin highlight
As they are 20mm and the helmet rest pretty low on their faces, I didn’t paint the eyes you just can let the Wash show in this part of the faces.
You can use this Internet address to know the equivalent color from one range to an other: http://colors.silicon-dragons.com/full_line.php a VERY useful tool!!!
The best colors are always those that you find the most adequate… You're always your No 1 critic! ;)
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Thanks for the list Calimero, and also the excellent site. Hopefully I'll be able to post a picture of the American's soon. And yes as GMac said, my American looked as though he came back from a disco (Although I still liked him lol)
Cheers Again
Andy
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I visited B&Q today looking for cork tiles, sadly I couldn't see any (a quick web search showed hat only Wicks sell them) although I did walk out with this
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt24/oldskoolrebel/campaigns/45adv/stone.jpg)
After a quick test I'm really happy with the results. I'll be using it as a city board. Perhaps before I sprayed I should have primed the board black; although this should be rectified with another coat later.
(http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt24/oldskoolrebel/campaigns/45adv/cityboardtest.jpg)
For £7.00 I think its a bargain
Cheers
Andy
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I think the color is great. Streets are actually more white than black. A very light grey. Only very freshly paved streets seem to be black.
About your question about skin color.
I usually start out with something like elf-flesh, use lots of brown ink and use a mixture of elf-flesh and sand (bone white?) as highlights. In some cases I even use pure sand as the last highlight. My minis tend to be a bit on the pale side.
But normally people are a lot paler than the colors we are able to buy.
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Try the GW foundation "Tallarn Flesh" colour. I really like it and it doesn't look too pinkish like the other GW colours. Its good for slightly tanned looking figures.
Cheers
Kieran
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Flesh tone: I started with very dark brown, then I paint Dwarf Flesh avoiding the sides of the nose, eyes and the mouth line.
Then a highlight 50/50 Dwarf Flesh / Vallejo Basic Skintone.
And a final highligh with 25/75 Dwarf Flesh / Vallejo Basic Skintone.
Hope this helps,
Marco
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I actually use GW snakebite leather as a base for rugged skin, inked with brown wash and highlighted with Vallejo Model Colour medium fleshtone.
I find this gives a nice weather beaten look.
G
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Thanks all for the advice.
I'm running a bit behind on this project, what with work, Uni and life getting in the way! *Shakes fist* lol I hope to be abe to get back on course over the next week or so.
Even as we speak I've started to produce the first buildings (using Matakishi's excellent cork building tutorial! Thank you it's truly an inspiration). I don't expect them to be fully painted for the first game (if we play).
Painting wise I'm away behind. I've almost finished painting the Chicago University Archaeological Society (to a gaming standard anyway). Sadly the model i was going to use for Captain H. Black was miscast, Colin took him away to see if he could do anything to help him- although I'm not sure that he'll be able to. Below is a picture of what the model should be like! Sadly on my version the legs are especially weak at the join to the boots and even simply by lifting, you're in danger of snapping him.
(http://www.artizandesigns.com/images/plp013.jpg)
I've not touched the Americans yet (Despite everyone's help) and the gangster models lie undercoated. Hopefully I'll get some painted very soon.
Cheers Andy
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Move on a bit, and I've now finished 'painting' the Sarah O'Connor model! And I've started painting some gangsters. The gangsters are a bit different from what I've been painting upto now- for one thing they tend to be predominantly one 'main' colour!
We're playing the first game on Wednesday, so I've still got alot to finish! (and start!)
Wish me luck
Andy
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Progress update... I've emailed the scenario to Richard for his opinions, I've also got all the gangsters and a few yesteryear vehicles... still to paint :'(. Hmm I might see if I can paint the 'basic' base colours and add more detail to the models later.
I've also purchased a camera... but it won't arrive from Jessops for a while :'( so I think I'll miss pictures of Wednesday's game.
@Gamer Mac... Colin do you have two gangsters with hand guns?? If so can you bring them on Wednesday please? Also spoke to your bro today and told him we're playing at mine.
Cheers
Andy (Who'll be being really sad and building/painting all day tomorrow.)
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Finally I can get round to posting a few pictures of my work... please be kind remember I've not been doing this for long!
First up is the Archaeologists. group shot
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/2367_12_08_09_4_19_15_0.JPG)
I've attempted eyes, but I'm terrible so I tend to paint over them again with a flesh colour
I'll list the individual pictures of miniatures in the order which I painted them in.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/2367_12_08_09_4_19_15_1.JPG)
^Dr Marcus the president of the society
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/2367_12_08_09_4_19_15_2.JPG)
^Professor Harun Al-Omar
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/2367_12_08_09_4_27_35_1.JPG)
^Wullie Murphy
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/2367_12_08_09_4_19_16_3.JPG)
^Jack Avery
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/2367_12_08_09_4_19_16_4.JPG)
^Sarah O'Connell
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/2367_12_08_09_4_27_35_0.JPG)
^Another view
OK, so these are the first shots with my new kit, and they miniatures have been used in games that is why some are chipped!
Cheers
Andy
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The camera works then.
Good job :D