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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: smirnoff on December 11, 2018, 12:21:21 PM
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Gents
Any views on the best 1/56th Somua S35? Warlord or Blitzkrieg? Or...?
Need it for the Tunisian campaign, so would also welcome advice on camo (found this 1/72 one in desert camo https://www.diecast.es/somua-altaya-s35.html but no idea if it's accurate).
And where do I get decals for these as neither Warlord nor Blitzkrieg supply them with the model?
Merci....
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Rubicon do French decals in 1/56 scale.
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Cheers, but none useable for the French
No playing card suit symbols etc....but Warlord do so I'm told and they look spot on
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Nothing beats a diecast Solido in scale 1/50 ;)
One example on ebay, and there are plenty for sale ;)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Solido-Metal-Militaire-Somua-S-35-N-234-Annee-03-1973/253997078272?hash=item3b2367d700:g:CzIAAOSwsqxb-Wr1
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Cheers, but none useable for the French
No playing card suit symbols etc....but Warlord do so I'm told and they look spot on
Maybe they do not do them separately, included in the Citroen and the two tanks
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YhPeGZr0POY/Wvh6vcR-iFI/AAAAAAAAD0M/LJDfkQmBc9Qu2138HQPK0PSyvf65VpfSACLcBGAs/s1600/citroen1-2.png)
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I wonder if they will sell them separately...can but ask. Cheers.
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I wonder if they will sell them separately...can but ask. Cheers.
Found the reference:
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Waterslide%20Decals/Early%20French%20170823-1s_zpsttwafear.jpg)
http://forum.rubiconmodels.com/index.php?topic=628.msg7578#msg7578 (http://forum.rubiconmodels.com/index.php?topic=628.msg7578#msg7578)
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12th RCA in Senegal
(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/10036810.jpg)
(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/90163110.jpg)
(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/93786010.jpg)
In Tunisia 1943
(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/93082210.jpg)
(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/90612010.jpg)
(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/90202510.jpg)
(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/90200710.jpg)
(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/90200610.jpg)
(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/89759710.jpg)
if this help ... i also used decals by Gaso.line http://www.phpshopxml.com/quakit.shop/CID/458d45fd0c4ec17cb0559ab0b1a11147/function/itemPageDisplay/shopItemCode/GAS50908 (http://www.phpshopxml.com/quakit.shop/CID/458d45fd0c4ec17cb0559ab0b1a11147/function/itemPageDisplay/shopItemCode/GAS50908)
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Great set of Pix Lou!
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Great images, thanks.
Can't see evidence of much camo going on in the Tunisia pictures, the Senegal ones seem to show something like the ribbon effect?
And thanks for the decal sheet.
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Depends on whether you enjoy building plastic kits. If you want one in 1/56 then I suspect the Italeri (packaged and sold by Warlord) is the best option in terms of detail and utility, plastic being easier to fiddecwith, open hatches etc.
The kits aren’t as well engineered as Rubicon’s offerings but they do build up into nice models. Buy the identical Italeri version through a model shop and save yourself some dough.
Company B also make a range of suitable French decals, including playing card symbols and roundels.
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only camo scheme i know for the 12th RCA in Tunisia :
(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/captur27.png)
seem's that the Somua has seen some camo , as it's not a Somua factory Camo scheme .
when ? in France before despatching to Africa ? latter ? nobody knows ...
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I'm amazed that the Germans permitted the transfer of the Somua S-35 to Africa or really anywhere out of Europe given that it was one of the best tanks available at the time.
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Thanks for all your help gents
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I'm amazed that the Germans permitted the transfer of the Somua S-35 to Africa or really anywhere out of Europe given that it was one of the best tanks available at the time.
was done after the Dakkar operation . the German-Italians allowed a 23 tank unit creation . the tanks were sent to Morocco for repair and training , then to Senegal to" prevent a Free-French/British land operation from British Gambia" .
the tanks leaved France , in theory with limited supply of ammo, repair ability etc .
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I'm amazed that the Germans permitted the transfer of the Somua S-35 to Africa or really anywhere out of Europe given that it was one of the best tanks available at the time.
Best in what respect? The commander is still commander, gunner and loader. The radio operator still often has no radio and has to pass some of the shells over his shoulder to the commander, who has to bend to reach them.
I'm not aware that the same modifications to seating carried out by the Germans on the vehicles they seized was ever done to those that remained in French service. Even the vehicle on display at Saumur is a German-modded vehicle handed back, complete with retro-fit cupola hatch.
Good armour, speed and gun, but one man turret and lousy ergonomics.
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I went to the Rubicon web page...didn't see the French decal set...has it been discontinued?
Thanks.
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the French decal set is part of the H39 R35 and citroen traction kits ...
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Aaaaah...ok...will have to get one of those bad boys tomorrow...my payday.
Thanks!