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Title: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: smirnoff on December 14, 2018, 04:57:56 PM
Anyone seen the new Das Boot series? It was supposed to be out 23rd Nov but i can't find it anywhere on UK TV
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: von Lucky on December 14, 2018, 05:23:27 PM
It's on SBS (for those in Australia). Got some good recommendations from fellow wargamers here, so going to start on it this weekend.
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on December 15, 2018, 08:22:41 AM
Anyone seen the new Das Boot series? It was supposed to be out 23rd Nov but i can't find it anywhere on UK TV
It will be on Sky, currently labelled "Coming Soon".

[Edit] Note to self, read thread title. However Sky say it is coming soon, so expect next year.
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: smirnoff on February 22, 2019, 01:25:28 PM
It's on Sky Atlantic now, Wednesday 9.00pm uk time.
Also on catch up.
Enjoyed episode 1
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: NurgleHH on February 22, 2019, 01:30:41 PM
As a german and kid of the '80 I tried it really to like this, but it is so not-boot. It is only a sky production for this time. I saw the oroginal Film, the original 4-Part-long-version and it is still magic. But this? Only a try to be "Das Boot". Like we say in Germany "Schade..."
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: smirnoff on February 22, 2019, 01:45:45 PM
I saw the original way back in Chicago when it was released in 1982 not knowing what I was going to watch.
Blew me away. Helped I'd visited U-505 the day before.
I'll see how this develops....
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: von Lucky on February 22, 2019, 01:48:03 PM
Yeah - as also a German and kid of the 80s I wanted to love it too. Great look, went all Hollywood quickly. WAY too quickly. The scene in the movie where they're sitting at the bottom is INTENSE. I got none of this in the series.
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: von Lucky on February 22, 2019, 01:49:33 PM
It's not hopeless - I think they could have made it a stand alone new series and developed their own thing. Actually, I think if they changed the name it wouldn't carry such expectations.
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Plynkes on February 22, 2019, 01:53:26 PM
Just saw an ad for it on Sky. Seems kind of pointless to me. There are so many stories from WWII that haven't been adapted to the screen and yet they keep remaking the same ones over and over. I noticed there is yet another movie about the assassination of Heydrich coming out. Wasn't the last one only a couple of years ago? - That one with Cillian Murphy, must be the most depressing film I've ever seen, though I thought it was well-made.


Anyway, I'll probably give this a chance, but I'm not exactly optimistic. Nice to see a Sunderland in trailer, though. You don't see many of those in war movies.


Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: M Blakey on February 22, 2019, 09:38:45 PM
I stumbled across it a week ago on sky and loved it! Well worth giving it a go. Im sorely tempted to buy the empress u boat after watching  ;D
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: ErikB on February 24, 2019, 07:16:41 AM
Does anyone know where to find it in the USA?
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: smirnoff on February 24, 2019, 08:15:26 AM
3 episodes in.

Do not expect something that matches the brilliance and power of the original film.
It piggybacks the original's name and reputation with no real justification.

However, it's fairly mindless viewing with some nice kit.
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: von Lucky on February 24, 2019, 10:25:44 AM
Does anyone know where to find it in the USA?
Hulu apparently:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/mipcom-hulu-takes-das-boot-us-1151498
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Captain Blood on February 24, 2019, 03:42:41 PM
I binge watched it a couple of weeks ago.
Starts well, looks good, great cast, big budget, and the action sequences are good.
But both the main U-boat storyline and particularly the secondary ‘resistance’ storyline set in La Rochelle, both get very silly and far fetched after about 5 episodes in. Not remotely credible in either case. Ridiculous in fact.
Still quite enjoyable though.
But not a patch on the original movie. Lacking the gallows humour in fact.

Jawohl Herr Kaleun!  :)
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: ErikB on February 24, 2019, 07:59:29 PM
Thanks, von Lucky.
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Truscott Trotter on February 24, 2019, 11:54:40 PM
I binge watched it a couple of weeks ago.
Starts well, looks good, great cast, big budget, and the action sequences are good.
But both the main U-boat storyline and particularly the secondary ‘resistance’ storyline set in La Rochelle, both get very silly and far fetched after about 5 episodes in. Not remotely credible in either case. Ridiculous in fact.
Still quite enjoyable though.
But not a patch on the original movie. Lacking the gallows humour in fact.

Jawohl Herr Kaleun!  :)

I have to say I was soooo looking forward to it but I have to agree with Capt Blood on this one
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: tuco74 on February 25, 2019, 08:49:05 AM
I think it's one of the best things I've watched in a long time - highly recommended.
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Captain Blood on February 25, 2019, 02:13:34 PM
I think it's one of the best things I've watched in a long time - highly recommended.

Like I say, I enjoyed it at one level :)

SPOILER ALERT
 
But in comparison with the original - a gripping and gritty tale of men at war and in terrifying extremis, yet always with a whiff of sardonic black humour – this new ‘Das Boot’ is much more fantasy soap opera.
The U-boat crew casting their captain adrift in a life raft in a mutiny led by a deranged rival U-boat captain plucked from the sea, abetted by the previously ramrod-straight, rules-obeying Prussian second in command? Bonkers.
The glamorous American Spanish Civil War veteran who has somehow taken charge of the French Resistance cell in La Rochelle, despite being a flaky heroin addict who speaks only English to them (while they speak to her only in French)?
And who also happens to be gay and plunges headlong into a lesbian affair with the German female clerk who happens to be a traitor, yet manages to wander around La Rochelle in her time off having all sorts of clandestine meetings – all the while holding the amorous attentions of the town’s (nice) Gestapo chief at arm’s length whilst breaking into the Gestapo’s cells to kill a compromised prisoner, and stealing information from the Gestapo’s office…
It’s fun in parts, and the submarine action sequences are great. But there are so many far-fetched aspects it’s a fantasy ‘on the theme of’, and a very different creature to the original of the same name… Which some people might find a bit disappointing.

The original movie is on Netflix in the UK by the way. Well worth the couple of hours it takes. I recall it has been voted the best war film ever made in assorted polls down the last 30 years...
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: smirnoff on February 26, 2019, 08:08:31 AM
But in comparison with the original - a gripping and gritty tale of men at war and in terrifying extremis, yet always with a whiff of sardonic black humour – this new ‘Das Boot’ is much more fantasy soap opera.
The U-boat crew casting their captain adrift in a life raft in a mutiny led by a deranged rival U-boat captain plucked from the sea, abetted by the previously ramrod-straight, rules-obeying Prussian second in command? Bonkers.
The glamorous American Spanish Civil War veteran who has somehow taken charge of the French Resistance cell in La Rochelle, despite being a flaky heroin addict who speaks only English to them (while they speak to her only in French)?
And who also happens to be gay and plunges headlong into a lesbian affair with the German female clerk who happens to be a traitor, yet manages to wander around La Rochelle in her time off having all sorts of clandestine meetings – all the while holding the amorous attentions of the town’s (nice) Gestapo chief at arm’s length whilst breaking into the Gestapo’s cells to kill a compromised prisoner, and stealing information from the Gestapo’s office…
It’s fun in parts, and the submarine action sequences are great. But there are so many far-fetched aspects it’s a fantasy ‘on the theme of’, and a very different creature to the original of the same name… Which some people might find a bit disappointing.

but it does have a Sunderland in it for 15 seconds....:)
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Captain Blood on February 26, 2019, 09:23:25 AM
but it does have a Sunderland in it for 15 seconds....:)

That is true, and I too appreciated that at the time  :)

Honestly, overall I enjoyed it. It started out so well. Both the main storylines dived off down an implausible, soap shaped rabbit hole halfway through, which turned it into something quite different from the sort of gritty, awful realism central to previous incarnations of the ‘Das Boot’ brand...
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Plynkes on February 26, 2019, 09:39:20 AM
The movie length version of the original series was the first DVD I ever owned. My dad gave it to me and I said, "what the hell is this thing?" I didn't even know what a DVD was at that point. What a thicko.

He said "it will play on your computer", and he was right. Happy times. But even happier times was when the TV series version was shown on the BBC many years before. I once had a computer game set on a U-boat, and you could put your own sound files into the game and play them on the in-game gramophone. So of course, I had to add "It's a Long Way to Tipperary" to it.

Such a good programme. I've loved  Jürgen Prochnow ever since. He's one of those actors who is almost always worth watching, even when the thing he is in stinks. And also, German pop singer Herbert Grönemeyer was in it. Anyone remember him? Back in the 90s when in the UK we used to get MTV Europe (before MTV UK was a thing) he was all over it. I loved MTV Europe, it exposed us to lots of European music I wouldn't have known otherwise. Okay, a lot of it was terrible, but there were some gems in there. I would never have known about Les Negresses Vertes without MTV Europe, and I loved that band.

Sorry, rambling on a bit, as is my wont. Incidentally, for the British GLAM veterans, and speaking of Herbert Grönemeyer: He did a song called "Currywurst!"  lol

Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: tuco74 on February 26, 2019, 04:20:04 PM
So of course, I had to add "It's a Long Way to Tipperary" to it.

I live in Stalybridge where the song was first performed and there is a statue of it being written in the town centre. It's also played by the brass band every Remembrance Day.
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Plynkes on February 26, 2019, 04:30:05 PM
I've been to Stalybridge! Went to see Hereford play Stalybridge Celtic once. It was such a lovely sunny day as I've never seen in Lancashire, before or since.


I also got shit-faced on Bacardi Breezers in the pub just by the ground. I don't recall the outcome of the match.

Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: smirnoff on February 26, 2019, 05:15:09 PM
Blimey. I remember when Stalybridge was still in Cheshire....
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: SpaceCudet on February 26, 2019, 05:37:55 PM
Blimey. I remember when Stalybridge was still in Cheshire....
Still a bloody long way to go to see Hereford play :P

(Furthest I've been is Kington to watch Herefordshire beat Middlesex)
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Plynkes on February 26, 2019, 06:12:42 PM
Oops, Cheshire was it? I apologise. In that case the nicest day I ever saw in Lancashire was at Old Trafford. It was an England vs. South Africa friendly, complete with African dancers before the kick-off.

That was almost as nice a day as the Stalybridge day, though it had slipped my mind when I posted before. I've still to see Wigan, Oldham,  Preston, Morecambe, Lancaster or Blackpool on a nice day, mind.  :)

Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Truscott Trotter on February 26, 2019, 11:03:53 PM
I remember when pubs in Cheshire didn't serve Bacardi Breezers......just sayin  lol
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: ARKOUDAKI on February 26, 2019, 11:35:43 PM
I watched all of the new TV version and while it started out well enough it got kinda lame in the end. I won't create any spoilers but the ending was just plain weak! Plus, the show's producers clearly sought to cover all the demographics rather than focus on the story of a U-Boat crew, like the original. I give it a 6/10 overall...started off more like 8-9/10 but then just fell apart.
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Doug ex-em4 on February 27, 2019, 08:11:56 PM
I remember when pubs in Cheshire didn't serve Bacardi Breezers......just sayin  lol

Are you telling me there’s pubs that sell Bacardi Breezers....!?

Doug
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Emir of Askaristan on February 27, 2019, 11:13:02 PM
Well I quite enjoyed that.
Nothing like the original but since I can't remember much about that I wasn't too bothered. Some fanciful storytelling but nothing worse than any other tv show.

A second series is planned apparently.

(If you liked the onshore storyline and haven't seen Babylon Berlin you might like it too).
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: DivisMal on February 28, 2019, 06:40:38 AM

Sorry, rambling on a bit, as is my wont. Incidentally, for the British GLAM veterans, and speaking of Herbert Grönemeyer: He did a song called "Currywurst!"  lol

When I was a student I used to eat my curry wurst in Grönemeyer‘s favorites restaurant :)

Was looking very much forward to the Das Boot series and maybe will have a look at it for the fun, but from what I read here it would have been better if they had given it another name.
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Plynkes on February 28, 2019, 10:00:43 AM
Just to explain, some of the British LAFers who went to Germany for a meet-up in 2010 developed a taste for, and something of an obsession about Currywurst. It became quite the "thing" for a short while.  :)


Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Captain Blood on February 28, 2019, 01:56:07 PM
It’s still a thing Dylan - Nick and I periodically meet up for currywurst and chips lol

We also went on a real U-boat at the Labour memorial...
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: DivisMal on February 28, 2019, 03:16:41 PM
Just to explain, some of the British LAFers who went to Germany for a meet-up in 2010 developed a taste for, and something of an obsession about Currywurst. It became quite the "thing" for a short while.  :)

It’s still a thing Dylan - Nick and I periodically meet up for currywurst and chips lol

We also went on a real U-boat at the Labour memorial...

Give me a call, when you make the next currywurstventure! I’m a well known currywurstologist in the German lands and have studied many great places in the east and west where it is sold!
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Captain Blood on February 28, 2019, 09:47:30 PM
That should have been Laboe... predictive text... meh  ::)

Give me a call, when you make the next currywurstventure! I’m a well known currywurstologist in the German lands and have studied many great places in the east and west where it is sold!

Florian, you’re on! I’m due a family trip to Berlin some time this year, so I’ll let you know  ;)
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: DivisMal on February 28, 2019, 09:58:44 PM
That should have been Laboe... predictive text... meh  ::)

Florian, you’re on! I’m due a family trip to Berlin some time this year, so I’ll let you know  ;)

Sadly i don’t live in Berlin anymore, dear Captain, having found a job near my wife finally. I now reside in the little British kingdom of Hanover (where I work as a museum curator), but maybe we can also plan a trip to Berlin next year. My wife really misses the big city...and at the moment we are very much bound to our home since our daughter was born this January.
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Captain Blood on February 28, 2019, 10:04:29 PM
Sadly i don’t live in Berlin anymore, dear Captain, having found a job near my wife finally. I now reside in the little British kingdom of Hanover (where I work as a museum curator), but maybe we can also plan a trip to Berlin next year. My wife really misses the big city...and at the moment we are very much bound to our home since our daughter was born this January.

Well that’s nice :)
I think you’ll find we are the little British kingdom of Hanover on this side of the North Sea... 300 years a proud German monarchy...  lol
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: DivisMal on March 01, 2019, 08:47:55 AM
Well that’s nice :)
I think you’ll find we are the little British kingdom of Hanover on this side of the North Sea... 300 years a proud German monarchy...  lol

Yes, and my current home only broke off, when Victoria became queen...that was only possible in the British part. Really crazy to think about how different European history might have been if northwestern Germany hadn’t joined the Prussians...maybe our little wargaming hobby wouldn’t have its spiritual centre in Nottingham, but on the continent? ??? lol

Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Michi on March 01, 2019, 09:56:28 AM
I’m a well known currywurstologist in the German lands and have studied many great places in the east and west where it is sold!

If that is true you have to travel to Bavaria to try 180cm of Currywurst laid out in Brezel-shape and served with two mountains of French fries on a wooden plank in the Gasthaus Alpenrose in Eisenärzt near Ruhpolding. You won't talk about any other afterwards...  :D

PS: Don't forget to order "ATOMIC HOT" sauce.
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: DivisMal on March 01, 2019, 11:34:24 AM
If that is true you have to travel to Bavaria to try 180cm of Currywurst laid out in Brezel-shape and served with two mountains of French fries on a wooden plank in the Gasthaus Alpenrose in Eisenärzt near Ruhpolding. You won't talk about any other afterwards...  :D

PS: Don't forget to order "ATOMIC HOT" sauce.

Lol...180cm of Currywurst? I must say I’m more of a puritan when it comes to currywurst, but maybe that’s something we should try as a LAF expedition.
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Michi on March 01, 2019, 12:54:32 PM
Lol...180cm of Currywurst? I must say I’m more of a puritan when it comes to currywurst, but maybe that’s something we should try as a LAF expedition.

You should be four male gamers or up to six persons to manage the consumption, I admit. At least if you want to eat all of the chips too.
Title: Re: Das Boot Sky uk?
Post by: Captain Blood on March 01, 2019, 01:44:53 PM
Godammit. I was in Salzburg and Berchtesgaden in October. If only I’d known, I could have paid a visit. Ruhpolding is only just up the road...  >:D