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Title: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Cacique Caribe on January 23, 2019, 10:53:17 PM
I decided to use some spare junk bits and give it a try:

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4894/46801428212_e0ddcd4b5a_k.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7827/46802132282_6962b905e9_z.jpg)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/9593487@N07/albums/72157705635591075/with/46802132282/

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=114549.0

My wife says that baobab remind her of upside down plastic carrots, with leaves on the tips of the small roots.  She might actually be on to something ...

Anyway, before I go any further with this little project, I wanted to hear suggestions and perhaps get some links to tutorials (with photos or video).

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: FifteensAway on January 24, 2019, 03:52:00 AM
Explore the Workbench page (which has mysteriously disappeared from my listing but I can get to by a search).  I'm pretty sure someone was recently posting about building baobab trees.  Not certain, though.  Go to the page and do a search.

Good luck.  Oh, and nice start to your project, just need to very the smooth portion of the trunk a bit and coat somehow, like thinned plaster perhaps, and you'll be really close.
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Barry S on January 24, 2019, 05:21:56 AM
Hi CC,

A friend and I have made several Baobab trees over the years for customers.

We used dowel with the top shaped for the trunk which we thickened and smoothly textured with caulk and  inserted wire armatures to act as the base for the foliage. We did consider using sturdy cardboard tubes or even PVC pipe as the core, but we decided on dowel for reasons that escape me now.

Here's a very poor photo of one set we made. 
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l12/LeadBear/Terrain/African%20Trees/BoabSmlMedLge.jpg) (http://s92.photobucket.com/user/LeadBear/media/Terrain/African%20Trees/BoabSmlMedLge.jpg.html)

As for tutorials, I know that Bob Murch wrote an article in Wargames Illustrated #245, March 2008.
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Cacique Caribe on January 24, 2019, 09:56:36 AM
I was also looking for references in the workbench, but found very little, which I thought was odd.

Wow, those three babobab trees look amazing!  A definite inspiration to push along and finish mine.

Thanks so much.
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Plynkes on January 24, 2019, 10:18:01 AM
Looking good. Remember that there are quite a few types of Baobab, though, and they don't all look like that.


I've got a horrible feeling that particular type is only native to Madagascar. Of course, nobody is obliged to care about that, and it would still look good on any African table.  :)


Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Cacique Caribe on January 24, 2019, 10:41:09 AM
True, most of the other baobab species, like those on the African continent and Australia, aren’t as majestic as the tall ones (adansonia grandidieri) from Madagascar.

I also like this baobab from continental Africa, the adansonia digitata:

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ctwAAOSwGotWnQPl/s-l640.jpg)
(http://sites.psu.edu/plantpropagationmethodskrs/wp-content/uploads/sites/19342/2014/12/1024px-Adansonia_digitata.jpg)
(http://www.baobabs.info/grobritannien-uk/images/festland.jpg)
http://www.baobabs.info/grobritannien-uk/description/index.html
http://www.krugerpark.co.za/africa_baobab.html
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Plynkes on January 24, 2019, 12:32:46 PM
For those less inclined to make their own stuff (like my lazy and feckless self), Schleich make a ready-to-use African Baobab...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/37/163-240119130233.jpeg)
(I say ready-to-use, but I did repaint the foliage, which looked a little anemic and not at all how it appears on the box art. The wood however I left as it was.)


Doesn't look too bad on the tabletop...

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/30/163_21_11_17_6_57_31_0.jpg)

Though it will be great to see Cacique's version when it is done. Looking forward to seeing it.


Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Barry S on January 24, 2019, 02:12:55 PM
Looking good. Remember that there are quite a few types of Baobab, though, and they don't all look like that.


I've got a horrible feeling that particular type is only native to Madagascar. Of course, nobody is obliged to care about that, and it would still look good on any African table.  :)

Polynkes,

It's also my understanding is that these are particular to Madagascar, but we were supplied photos of these types of trees, so it's what we made.

Thanks by the way.



 
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Cacique Caribe on January 24, 2019, 02:15:51 PM
Now that’s a beautiful addition to an already beautiful setup!  I think I know what type of baobab I’ll be trying next.

Thanks for those pics.
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Poiter50 on January 24, 2019, 02:33:02 PM
Some of those in the North West of Australia, Kimberley Plateau, get as big as that and there are mini-me's all over that area, quite heavily forested. The hollow ones have been used as prisons on some occasions.

True, most of the other baobab species, like those on the African continent and Australia, aren’t as majestic as the tall ones (adansonia grandidieri) from Madagascar.

I also like this baobab from continental Africa, the adansonia digitata:

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ctwAAOSwGotWnQPl/s-l640.jpg)
(http://sites.psu.edu/plantpropagationmethodskrs/wp-content/uploads/sites/19342/2014/12/1024px-Adansonia_digitata.jpg)
(http://www.baobabs.info/grobritannien-uk/images/festland.jpg)
http://www.baobabs.info/grobritannien-uk/description/index.html
http://www.krugerpark.co.za/africa_baobab.html
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Cacique Caribe on January 24, 2019, 05:18:12 PM
Poiter

That’s fantastic info!  I can already imagine babobab decorating a table with aboriginal people vs megafauna (such as megalania prisca).

It seems that most of the lands on the edges of the Indian Ocean also have one or more species of baobab, which means that they must be spread by ocean currents or in the gut of birds that migrate that immense expanse of coastlines.

Such a prehistoric or alien-looking tree.  I really wish we had something like that here in Texas.

Almost forgot ... I used some thin pieces of card to bulk the base a bit more and enhance the conical appearance.  Then I used the tip of my hot glue gun to smear some material in incomplet horizontal bands.  And then I applied a heavy dose of thick PVA glue:

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4809/46862687351_baa0f54f9f_k.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7876/46862687621_d0ac3394e1_k.jpg)

Except now I usually have a figure in hand for scale every time I make some terrain piece.  So I didn’t realize until now how puny my 15mm figures look beside the tree.

Anyway, I might have to add a little bit of joint compound to fill many of the gaps between the hot glue bands.

Thanks

Dan
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Mindenbrush on January 24, 2019, 08:44:44 PM
Neat work, looks like I might be trying my hand at some for Historicon 2019
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Clearco on January 24, 2019, 09:11:16 PM
I begun this one one year ago but never finished it  ::)

(http://i67.tinypic.com/23kvnk.jpg)

It's in 15mm scale. I was trying to make it like the ones I have seen on pictures of Tanzania, not the smooth one from Madagascar though :)
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Cacique Caribe on January 24, 2019, 10:35:43 PM
Clearco

That looks great!  Go ahead and finish it.  I think that with baobab trees the key seems to be less foliage rather than more.  So the number of leaves on the canopy always tends to look inadequate for the girth of the trunk.

I say go for it!

Dan

ADDENDUM

Here’s the tree, now that I’ve coated the grooves with wall joint compound (filler).  Once dry I followed it up with a coat of straight PVA.  I’m finally starting to like the “bumpy” texture now:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7842/46813763852_608316dfa6_k.jpg)

Most of the photos I find show that the bottom edge of the trees sustain a lot of damage from animals or the elements, so I left the pits along the bottom unfilled.  I hope I don’t come to regret that later.
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: cram on January 27, 2019, 03:33:51 PM
Great project.

Looks like the baobab that Plynkes suggested is no longer available  :(
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Dr Mathias on January 27, 2019, 03:53:15 PM
Baobabs are on my 'to-do' list :)

Excellent work in this thread!
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Plynkes on January 27, 2019, 03:58:10 PM
Great project.

Looks like the baobab that Plynkes suggested is no longer available  :(

Well that's a bit of a shame. I guess we'll all have to follow the pointers in this thread then.

Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Cacique Caribe on January 27, 2019, 07:40:40 PM
This might explain why Baobabs have such big scars along their base:

(https://www.tanzania-experience.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/6.jpg)

And then goats get to the inner wood once the bark is compromised.

I’m learning more than I ever thought I needed to know about these trees! :)

Anyway, I already started on another one, much smaller though, and I plan to paint them all at the same time.  So I’ll be posting new photos soon.

Dan

Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Hupp n at em on March 21, 2019, 02:57:14 AM
Looking good so far! I may try to make some as I have colonials in 28 and cold war africa in 20 that could both use something distinctively African to set the scene...
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Hammers on March 25, 2019, 11:55:55 AM
This might explain why Baobabs have such big scars along their base:

(https://www.tanzania-experience.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/6.jpg)


"Sir, I regret to tell you we have a quite serious elephant infestation in our baobab plantation. They have gotten under the bark and are digging canals. Shall I call the fumigators?"
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Cacique Caribe on March 25, 2019, 01:33:06 PM
Lol.  Either that or some REALLY big mouse traps.  :)

Dan
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: soldado on March 25, 2019, 02:07:46 PM
Lol.  Either that or some REALLY big mouse traps.  :)

Dan

That's just mean, the elephant has just mistaken that hole for a telephone booth, all he want to do is make a trunk call back to his mum!

Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Poiter50 on March 25, 2019, 03:16:14 PM
Will he reverse charges?

That's just mean, the elephant has just mistaken that hole for a telephone booth, all he want to do is make a trunk call back to his mum!
Title: Re: Anyone Tried Making Baobab Trees?
Post by: Cacique Caribe on March 25, 2019, 05:57:20 PM
Soldado:  “That's just mean, the elephant has just mistaken that hole for a telephone booth, all he want to do is make a trunk call back to his mum!”

lol I’m sure the hole was very tiny (if there was even one there to begin with) when the elephant found it and got busy expanding it.

I guess they are more like us than most people want to believe.  They have no problem reshaping their environment when they need to.  Or when they simply feel like it.  Or when they just want to see how far they can push the envelope of creativity via their massive strength.  But mainly because very few creatures are crazy enough to try to stand in their way or to dare tell them no.

Dan