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Title: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: traveller on February 06, 2019, 06:09:00 PM
With all these new Vietnam ranges in the works (Empress, Black Sun, Gringo40s) I get all these images from Apocalypse Now, Full metal jacket, The Platoons etc in my head and cannot avoid to start planning for transport. I would be grateful for recommendations for:

-Huey UH-1 choppers
-M113
-PBR (classic patrol boat)

Plastic, resin or diecast in 1/48-1/50 scale. Many thanks!
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Elk101 on February 06, 2019, 06:34:43 PM
I managed to get some very decently priced Corgi 1:50 Hueys but they're rather expensive now. They great for cobras too. For the slicks I got some Easy Model ready made kits which are very useful out of the box. I picked up a cheap 1:48 kit to use for a crash site objective / scenery piece.

I've got a Force of Arms M113 somewhere too.

It looks like there will be some vehicles produced as part of at least one of the new ranges too.
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: AKULA on February 06, 2019, 06:39:42 PM
Are you UK based traveller?

I’ve got a whole bunch of 1:50 corgi hueys that I was considering selling off...

 :)
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: GDonk on February 06, 2019, 06:42:07 PM
Slightly beaten to it there but I was just typing - Revell do a PCF "Swift Patrol Boat" plastic kit in 1/48 - no idea of its historic etc accuracy - I bought it 'cos I was looking for boats as a conversion basis for PA and pulp transport.
They are a number of Hueys available as plastic kits in 1/48 (Revell, Monogram, Easy Model and others) and Corgi do a  diecast one. Have a look on E-Bay. All the best, GDonk
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: tin shed gamer on February 06, 2019, 06:47:52 PM
I've a water lined. Swift patrol boat. ( burried in the loft at the moment) that I'd be willing to part with later in the year. So when you do get going drop me a reminder PM.

Mark.
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: carlos marighela on February 06, 2019, 08:41:03 PM
Italeri make 1/48 UH-1D and UH-1H models if you after slicks. IIRC they also make a B model gunship as does Revell (ex Monogram kit). The best build for wargamers is the lovely Hobby Boss 1/48 UH-1C. It’s one of their easy kit range. Basically falls together. Alas, its a C model which were almost exclusively dedicated gunships and the kit does not supply the weapons. Still if you aren’t fussed about makes and models it’s by far your best option because in addition to being a simplr yet accurate kit, it’s as cheap as chips. Locally model shops have them for a little over $20 AUD so probably a shade under ten quid in the UK.

Academy make a variety of  1/48 OH-6 Cayuse and Hughes 500 models. These are super cheap, so cheap I’ve even bought them just to use the crew figures for other projects. Italeri do the OH-47 if you want early war.

If you want a late war OH-58 Kiowas then there’s a good 1/50 scale diecast out there, IIRC it was Cararama.
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: carlos marighela on February 06, 2019, 08:47:08 PM
I forgot. TAG produce a couple of 1/50 M113s They only manfacture them once or twice a year but worth checking their site or inquring directly.

Barrage miniatures make a variety of useful boats for Vietnam, including Yabuta junks and a variety of local sampans, all nominally 1/56.
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Lord Raglan on February 06, 2019, 08:50:02 PM
I have 3 x Easy Model Hueys for sale - 40 quid for the lot?
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: traveller on February 07, 2019, 06:48:09 AM
Thanks for all the recommendations! As usual LAF has all the answers  :)

Patrol Boat: I have seen the Revell PCF but I was looking for the iconic PBR featured in Apocalypse now. It seems OG is the only option unless I can find the Monogram Rambo set somewhere at a reasonable price

Huey: I am really only looking for one model to fit some 28mm gunners into (Thanks for the offers anyway AKULA and Lord Raglan)The Black Sun crew are designed for the Italeri 0849 but the Hobby Boss mentioned by Carlos sounds tempting...

M113: seems still to be unsolved unless the TAG option works. I was surprised to read that the Corgi one is 1/43 while their other ”Unsung Heroes” are 1/50?
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Poiter50 on February 07, 2019, 06:58:49 AM
I think Corgi missed a great opportunity there when they produced some of the Vietnam range in 1/43. Had they kept their scale at 1/50, gamers would have flocked to their product. Personally, I have been hunting the Gun Truck that they did and managed to secure 3 of them over the years. I also have 3 of the generic transport trucks for convoys.
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Jericho on February 07, 2019, 07:13:37 AM
For the M113A1 and M113ACAV have a look at Parkfield Miniatures:

(http://parkfieldminiatures.freeservers.com/M113%20ACAV%202.JPG)

(http://parkfieldminiatures.freeservers.com/M113%20ACAV%203.jpg)

http://parkfieldminiatures.freeservers.com/28MM%20MILITARY%20VEHICLES.html (http://parkfieldminiatures.freeservers.com/28MM%20MILITARY%20VEHICLES.html)
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Elk101 on February 07, 2019, 07:17:50 AM
For the M113A1 and M113ACAV have a look at Parkfield Miniatures:

(http://parkfieldminiatures.freeservers.com/M113%20ACAV%202.JPG)

(http://parkfieldminiatures.freeservers.com/M113%20ACAV%203.jpg)

http://parkfieldminiatures.freeservers.com/28MM%20MILITARY%20VEHICLES.html (http://parkfieldminiatures.freeservers.com/28MM%20MILITARY%20VEHICLES.html)

Totally forgot Park field, which is bad considering I have most of their figures.
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: carlos marighela on February 07, 2019, 07:49:46 AM
IIRC Parkfield are 1/56 and the OP was looking for 1/48-1/50 scale models.

In the same vein, I could mention that Eureka do a couple of M-113s. Again they are 1/56 ish. There’s also South African poster here who makes a greyboard M-113. Cost effective.

The other source for a 1/48 M-113 is Quarter Kit/Gasoline. They aren’t cheap but they are superb models.
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on February 07, 2019, 09:39:25 AM
Empress are just about to put into production an M113 in 1/50 scale.
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Wyrmalla on February 07, 2019, 09:47:35 AM
Empress are just about to put into production an M113 in 1/50 scale.

A new one? Your existing M113 kit has a fair level of detail, so I'd be interested in seeing what else could be added to that (other than details for specific variants). Though a M113 with a turret would be appreciated. Not just for that vehicle of course - I mean those turrets have appeared on pickup trucks and all sorts over the years. :)
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on February 07, 2019, 10:23:01 AM
Good idea. Its a new one based on the old one but made older. How complicated was that description  lol
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: proditor on February 07, 2019, 01:19:21 PM
FYI: The Rambo  set comes with a Rag Boat, not a PBR. I just snagged one recently. On the up side, you also get the Huey.  :D
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: traveller on February 07, 2019, 02:14:48 PM
FYI: The Rambo  set comes with a Rag Boat, not a PBR. I just snagged one recently. On the up side, you also get the Huey.  :D

Thanks for that info. What does the Huey look like?
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Nicolo on February 07, 2019, 03:04:22 PM
Easy model is perfect for exemple :

https://www.ebay.fr/i/323645634168?chn=ps&dispItem=1

and force of valor :

http://www.norton.co.uk/diecast-models-c20/aircraft-military-c536/1-48-un84005-u-s-uh-1d-huey-helicopter-vietnam-1968-worn-box-p10510

for scole : http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=111073.15

(http://fotoforum.fr/photos/2019/02/07.28.jpg) (http://fotoforum.fr)
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: traveller on February 07, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
Great game you got there! Are the side doors possible to open on the Easy Model Huey?
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Nicolo on February 07, 2019, 06:05:13 PM
Great game you got there! Are the side doors possible to open on the Easy Model Huey?
no and there are pilots and gunners but there are six different models at easy. however, the force of valor does not have a mark.
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on February 07, 2019, 10:45:22 PM
Empress are just about to put into production an M113 in 1/50 scale.
A new one? Your existing M113 kit has a fair level of detail, so I'd be interested in seeing what else could be added to that (other than details for specific variants). Though a M113 with a turret would be appreciated. Not just for that vehicle of course - I mean those turrets have appeared on pickup trucks and all sorts over the years. :)

I was going to mention their M113.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gTGPKzaCPaU/Uo2gh8t8SJI/AAAAAAAAAj4/8cOntjQlHqc/s1600/M113wip.png)

Of course I assume their existing one is 1/50.

I of course would like the German version (MG3 and different smoke dischargers).
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: carlos marighela on February 07, 2019, 11:23:38 PM
https://modelingmadness.com/scott/viet/previews/hobbyboss/85803.htm

Hobby Boss UH-1C review
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: proditor on February 08, 2019, 02:34:12 PM
Thanks for that info. What does the Huey look like?

It looks to be this one: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/monogram-5201-huey-hog--159055

The old Monogram "Huey Hog".
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: traveller on February 08, 2019, 04:40:33 PM
It looks to be this one: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/monogram-5201-huey-hog--159055

The old Monogram "Huey Hog".

Great, thanks!
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: traveller on February 08, 2019, 04:52:43 PM
I found a proxy to the PBR. The boat comes in three parts, hull, cabin walls and cabin roof:

https://www.ainstycastings.co.uk/product/river-launch-with-cabin/

(https://i.postimg.cc/KcrxHB4Q/78-CF12-E3-1696-41-F2-8-FAD-F61-FD86795-CC.png) (https://postimg.cc/NLM3yy6r)

(https://i.postimg.cc/yxPK3422/3-B2-D019-A-7-A6-B-4809-93-F7-FA539-B081-E5-E.png) (https://postimg.cc/V0dp2TfF)

It is a bit similar to patrol boats used by the French in Vietnam:

(https://i.postimg.cc/SRqqKN1W/41866169-A72-A-4-E2-F-A6-FF-2-BFD7-F398-C45.png) (https://postimg.cc/LYyGCRpX)
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: traveller on February 13, 2019, 09:41:58 AM
Can anyone id this river boat?

(https://i.postimg.cc/K80PqWSF/EAD39972-A264-4917-9-DE3-E3581374946-F.png) (https://postimg.cc/xXbNqt1F)

The image can be found on barrage miniatures website but the boat does not seem be in their range. I emailed barrage miniatures without any response so I try my luck here  :)
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Marine0846 on February 13, 2019, 03:22:19 PM
As far as I know the only guys that make a PBR is Old Glory.
I have only seen small photos of it on the web.
I believe that  one was make by Cold Wars.
(May have the name wrong.)
Maybe Empress or Gringo might make one when
they do their 'Nam ranges.
One can hope.
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Marine0846 on February 13, 2019, 10:04:45 PM
I found this old thread about a PBR.

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=91965.0
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: traveller on February 14, 2019, 07:07:54 AM
I found this old thread about a PBR.

http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=91965.0

That looks great but the KS never happened it seems?

In the meantime I got some response from Alf at Barrage Miniatures. The boat on the picture is indeed a 28mm PBR that is almost ready for production. There are only the design of the roof awning that remains. In order to speed up the process and give Alf some incentive, please email alf@barrageminiatures.com and encourage him if you are interested.  ;)
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Sparrow on February 14, 2019, 08:31:32 AM
Not the patrol boats referred to but don’t forget Grand Manner do the larger Tango boats https://www.grandmanner.co.uk/MOD_Deal_3_TANGOS--product--428.html
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: traveller on February 14, 2019, 06:08:18 PM
Great ships but unfortunately too big for my table  :'(
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Brax182 on February 15, 2019, 02:35:08 AM
How about the old 1/48 rambo attack set by monogram comes with huey and river patrol boat
found a couple on e-bay
www.ebay.com/itm/Monogram-1-48-Rambo-Attack-Set-Chopper-Helicopter-River-Boat-Kit-6039U/123643682697
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: traveller on February 15, 2019, 09:02:26 AM
See above, it is unfortunately not a PBR  :(

FYI: The Rambo  set comes with a Rag Boat, not a PBR. I just snagged one recently. On the up side, you also get the Huey.  :D

Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Marine0846 on February 15, 2019, 02:57:37 PM
Thanks for ferreting out The PBR in the Barrage photo.
Am sending an email today to them about the boat.
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: traveller on February 15, 2019, 03:33:13 PM
Thanks for ferreting out The PBR in the Barrage photo.
Am sending an email today to them about the boat.

Great, thanks!
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Marine0846 on February 17, 2019, 12:41:41 AM
Barrage e -mailed me yesterday about the PBR.
They were working on it, that's a plus.
No time frame when they will put it out.
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: traveller on February 17, 2019, 06:41:42 AM
Good! Lets keep chasing them  8)
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Paratrooper 42 on February 20, 2019, 12:37:21 AM
I have a few of the corgi models, they work very well for 28mm
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: carlos marighela on February 20, 2019, 05:43:25 AM
If you want a cheap alternative M-48 then Revell do 1/48 a 'Snaptite' toy that comes in lurid colours but is otherwise not bad. The rear engine grill is a little off and it lacks details but nothing that can't be remedied with brass wire, plastic rod and a little putty.

IIRC I posted a WIP on here of one I converted some time back.

Found it: https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=75443.msg922898#msg922898
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: traveller on February 20, 2019, 03:15:41 PM
That tank looks good! Sadly it seems to be OOP but can maybe be found on evilbay...
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: lou passejaire on February 20, 2019, 07:01:18 PM
defunct Cold War Miniatures produced a nice PBR ...

(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/pbr10.gif)

(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/pbrcu10.gif)

but it was quite 15 years ago  :?
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: traveller on February 20, 2019, 07:33:34 PM
defunct Cold War Miniatures produced a nice PBR ...

(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/pbr10.gif)

(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/pbrcu10.gif)

but it was quite 15 years ago  :?

Sweet!  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Poiter50 on February 21, 2019, 01:19:48 AM
And sadly the mould has deteriorated and the master is no longer suitable to be used for a new mould. I asked several years ago. If we had an intact, unassembled version, it could be re-done.

defunct Cold War Miniatures produced a nice PBR ...

(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/pbr10.gif)

(https://i44.servimg.com/u/f44/11/63/95/43/pbrcu10.gif)

but it was quite 15 years ago  :?
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: Marine0846 on February 21, 2019, 02:16:26 PM
I have one of the Cold Wars PBRs.
A very nice model.
Sad to say, it is no longer being made.
Guys, e-mail Barrage Miniatures,
they are making one.
Please show some support and interest.
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: tuco74 on February 21, 2019, 03:33:33 PM
Does anybody know of any plans for there to be a Bolt Action Vietnam supplement and range? I'm hopeful given that there is a Korea supplement due soon.
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: NurgleHH on February 21, 2019, 09:38:39 PM
Does anybody know of any plans for there to be a Bolt Action Vietnam supplement and range? I'm hopeful given that there is a Korea supplement due soon.
Korea is close to WW2 and you can use the figures from warlord, but for Vietnam they have no figures. Even the ww1 book for ba was cancelled...
So I won’t bet on it

Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: traveller on May 18, 2019, 07:14:02 PM
Finally built myself an Italeri Huey in 1/48 as I think that is only this one together with the Corgi diecast that have an open door that can take a doorgunner. Even though the Italeri model has all the details I must say that it is not really suited for gaming. A bit too light and flimsy...I figured that out when I dropped it on the floor  :D
Title: Re: Vietnam choppers, boats and vehicles in 1/48-1/50 ?
Post by: carlos marighela on May 19, 2019, 02:17:56 AM
Finally built myself an Italeri Huey in 1/48 as I think that is only this one together with the Corgi diecast that have an open door that can take a doorgunner. Even though the Italeri model has all the details I must say that it is not really suited for gaming. A bit too light and flimsy...I figured that out when I dropped it on the floor  :D

Forces of Valour do a pre-paint UH-1D that comes with open doors and crew figures, including doir gunners. It’s a bit cheaper than the Corgi version but by the time you add in glue paint etc, it’s probably closer to two Italeri Hueys for the price of one FoV diecast. I have yet to build my Italeri one and the only thing holding me back from the FoV version is the price, they are actually very nice models.