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Title: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 03, 2019, 06:25:26 PM
Silly little thing...
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Ignatieff on March 03, 2019, 07:14:12 PM
Lots of variants....

Steve
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: carlos marighela on March 03, 2019, 08:20:56 PM
Lovely!

Might be sensible to sell a separate file for the turret or turrets. Lots of those were mounted in the Stalin line, often enough by the simple expedient of burying the tank, leaving the turret clear.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: FramFramson on March 03, 2019, 09:50:32 PM
Well there's no way I can't link this now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=MYLNXfiU25M
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: has.been on March 03, 2019, 10:00:17 PM
Looks like fun to play with. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: vodkafan on March 03, 2019, 11:10:03 PM
Well there's no way I can't link this now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=MYLNXfiU25M

Fram thanks for that. A most absorbing 5 minutes.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 03, 2019, 11:13:04 PM
Lots of variants....

Steve

There are more than that...  there are at least 4 different suspension layouts as well.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 03, 2019, 11:13:29 PM
Well there's no way I can't link this now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=MYLNXfiU25M

I'd roll that to work every day. 
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 03, 2019, 11:14:03 PM
Lovely!

Might be sensible to sell a separate file for the turret or turrets. Lots of those were mounted in the Stalin line, often enough by the simple expedient of burying the tank, leaving the turret clear.

Easily done ;)
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 03, 2019, 11:59:48 PM
Pretty much done.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: carlos marighela on March 04, 2019, 12:37:10 AM
Nice! Going to do the early model turret as well?
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 04, 2019, 06:54:55 AM
Nice! Going to do the early model turret as well?
Thanks!

Suspension is wrong for the early model and I can't be bothered to change that too...
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: carlos marighela on March 04, 2019, 08:14:59 AM
I don’t mean the pre-production item, I mean the actual production version. See the line drawing. Left hand column, second from the bottom. Suspension looks identical to me.

Just saying that would open it up to all the BoB fans.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 04, 2019, 08:20:29 AM
Having scoured the internet looking for pictures there are several suspension/track setups, some looks like it's off an FT-17 some looks very differnet.   Most of them aren't in that image! 

I can do the turret easily if there is a use for it. 
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: carlos marighela on March 04, 2019, 09:56:03 AM
Be careful with internet searches. There’s a widespread confusion out there betwixt the MS-1 and the so called Ruski Reno, essentially a knock off of the Ft-17. There are even conflicting theories on whether any were actually manufactured or whether they were refurbished, captured FT-17s.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 04, 2019, 10:06:47 AM
That might explain it.

I also looks like most of the survivors are ex pillboxes so didn't have running gear and were lashed together with any old scrap
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 04, 2019, 12:26:20 PM
I like the idea of the SU-18 now too...  but they only built one prototype... but it's an easy add on by the looks of it.

So I'll make the octagonal turret, a half hull to make a pillbox and an SU-18 I reckon, that shoudl do it for this tank.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 04, 2019, 10:02:41 PM
Early turret as suggested
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: carlos marighela on March 05, 2019, 12:55:43 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 05, 2019, 06:50:54 AM
I'm not happy with the drive sproket so 'll remake that. 
Otherwise it'll go to the printer this afternoon.

Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Truscott Trotter on March 05, 2019, 10:49:07 PM
is it just me or should that tank have a large key sitting out of the side?  lol
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 05, 2019, 11:04:05 PM
 lol

Vertically out the back deck?
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: carlos marighela on March 06, 2019, 01:09:00 AM
Cute!
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 06, 2019, 06:52:05 AM
Better?
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Dr Bogo on March 06, 2019, 08:34:07 AM
 lol
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: carlos marighela on March 06, 2019, 09:04:25 AM
Well to be thematic really you should take the matroshka doll approach 6mm T-18 nested inside a 15mm, inside a 28mm etc, etc.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 06, 2019, 09:06:14 AM
The resin printer would allow you to do that...  but all you would get is a rattle.

Or a Vickers light, in a Vickers medium in a Vickers independent?
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: FramFramson on March 06, 2019, 05:30:05 PM
 lol lol lol
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Ballardian on March 07, 2019, 03:05:21 PM

 Another lovely job :)
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 07, 2019, 03:12:20 PM
Trouble is Im tempted to include keys with any I print now...
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Truscott Trotter on March 07, 2019, 10:24:55 PM
Trouble is Im tempted to include keys with any I print now...

Hah....my job here is done!   lol o_o
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Dashetal on March 08, 2019, 01:11:31 AM
A needed model in 1/56. I am doing the 1929 Sino Soviet War and they were present.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 08, 2019, 06:50:12 AM
 :)
Ill see how it prints over the weekend
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: carlos marighela on March 08, 2019, 07:06:28 AM
vz33 next please!
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on March 08, 2019, 04:03:42 PM
:)
Ill see how it prints over the weekend
I will be interested to see how it turns out.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: FramFramson on March 08, 2019, 06:55:06 PM
What about a T-45, I wonder?
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Ignatieff on March 09, 2019, 03:51:36 PM
this is all looking good!
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 09, 2019, 10:57:46 PM
First two prints failed... not sure why.  Trying again. 
Not a problem with the files but the printer.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Dashetal on March 22, 2019, 04:12:44 PM
So its the early 1920s and the Soviets  (or is that Rich) are messing with the prototypes? If the comrades plan to teach the world a lesson they need a Soviet machine to deal with those pesky FT 17s.  So Comrade Rich how is the factory production coming together. Don't make us execute you.  lol
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 22, 2019, 05:26:00 PM
Printer died... has been resurrected.... died again... then several 14 hour days at work so the answer is 'slowly'!

I've got a couple T-18s printed. I'll try and get some pics.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Dashetal on March 23, 2019, 02:09:38 AM
Excellent! I look forward to their shy exposure to our prying eyes. lol
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Griefbringer on March 25, 2019, 01:39:34 PM
Printer died... has been resurrected.... died again...

Sounds like the bourgeoisie imperialist agents have managed to sabotage a manufacturing plant of the people of the union of the Soviets.

Time to call the NKVD to purge the traitors! Za Leninu!
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 25, 2019, 08:13:00 PM
No idea whats going on but the neighbours have been replaced overnight...
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Dashetal on March 25, 2019, 09:26:24 PM
Probably CIA plants watching you preform nefarious activities?  ;)
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Griefbringer on March 26, 2019, 12:38:54 PM
They might also be faithful party members placed so as to prevent further sabotage by the bourgeoisie revisionist agents, as well as to ensure your unswerving loyalty to the internationalist revolutionary cause! Thanks to your proletariate efforts, the Peasants' and Workers' Army will be able to keep the rule of the Soviets safe from imperialist aggression!
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 26, 2019, 07:49:08 PM
Finally pics
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: mysteriousbill on March 26, 2019, 09:55:26 PM
Not bad. How much?
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Maddoc on March 26, 2019, 09:58:33 PM
Yay!!
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 26, 2019, 11:20:07 PM
Not bad. How much?

Drop me a PM ;)
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Dashetal on March 27, 2019, 12:08:52 AM
The Soviets are getting ready to roll right over those FT 17s. Nice Job. PM sent.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: FramFramson on March 27, 2019, 01:25:45 AM
Well that's looking dead good!
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Griefbringer on March 28, 2019, 11:04:21 AM
The Soviets are getting ready to roll right over those FT 17s.

They certainly should, by the laws of historical dialectism! Not to mention that thanks to the heroic feats of the Soviet engineers, every tank has twice the armament of the proletariate-exploiting bourgoisie FT-17!

[That said, the short 37 mm guns on these sort of vehicles were not exactly ideal for anti-tank action.]
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 28, 2019, 02:48:00 PM
When the armour on these things is <5mm in places harsh words or a stiff breeze would suffice... lol
The description was 'bullet resistant' - my water resistant watch didn't like the damp.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Griefbringer on March 28, 2019, 04:40:00 PM
I recall reading that in the Rif War at least one inferior FT-17 tank of the oppressive bourgeoisie imperialists was taken out by a brave local anti-imperialist pushing a sword or long dagger through a weak spot (vision slit?) and to the capitalist lackey crewman inside. (There probably would not have been much room to dodge inside, even if you knew such a blade was aimed at.)

As far as I know, no T-18 was ever taken out by such attack, again proving the superiority of the Soviet design!
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on March 30, 2019, 08:08:57 PM
STL available here:
https://www.wargaming3d.com/product/t-18-ms-1-soviet-tankette/
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on April 02, 2019, 09:21:49 AM
Printing problems...  sadly not spotted until I'd printed 6...
Inadequate support means the idlers aren't round  :-[
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Rich H on April 07, 2019, 05:40:12 PM
A parade of MS-1s

Sadly about half have some print defects. 
Got it sorted now though.

If anyone else needs a slightly wonky MS-1 let me know.
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: Maddoc on April 08, 2019, 12:50:36 PM
so about 1/8th of the way to a complete force?
Title: Re: T-18 / MS-1
Post by: FramFramson on April 08, 2019, 05:57:42 PM
so about 1/8th of the way to a complete force?

Well, 1/8th of a force that the enemy have apparently had the best of  lol