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Title: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Onebigriver on March 17, 2019, 05:39:59 PM
I recently read Volume 3 of the comic "American Vampire", in which some specialist US troops take on an unusual type of vampire as well as the Japanese during WW2 . I fancy doing some scenarios based on this, using perhaps Mantic ghouls as a base but I'm failing to find a source of head swaps. The heads and tongue are reminiscent of the Resident Evil Lickers  but the head is smooth like Giger's Alien.
(https://i.imgur.com/qv5cM21.jpg)

 I was hoping Heresy still did the Lurker heads but it doesn't seem to be the case.


Any suggestions for heads that doesn't involve me trying to sculpt? My google fu has failed!
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: OSHIROmodels on March 17, 2019, 05:41:20 PM
Would one of the GW genestealer heads do the job?
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Onebigriver on March 17, 2019, 05:43:58 PM
Would one of the GW genestealer heads do the job?

Possibly, but I doubt I could source them separately!
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Daeothar on March 18, 2019, 08:25:06 AM
Heresy Stalker heads; I used them on a horde of Hormagaunts (as per mcfonz's idea actually) and they're perfect for that; smooth, long heads, no eyes and 'sharp, pointy teeth'.

I also converted several Hormagaunt heads with some judicious cutting and a tiny bit of GS, so I could have a few with their mouths open, just for variety.

I don't have many pics, but here's one from a small AAR in which they featured:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=110369.0;attach=81259;image)

(Pardon the unfinished bases; those have been fixed since then :D )

Also; I just tried to find them on the Heresy site, but they appear to be gone, but I'm sure if you contact Andy directly, he can still sort you out...

Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: beefcake on March 18, 2019, 10:21:34 AM
Heresy used to do some guys that fit the bill completely (heads and all), like Daeothar's stalker heads but more humanlike.
Unavailable now though. They were called Lurkers. You may be able to find some somewhere though. Sorry not much more help than that though.
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Daeothar on March 18, 2019, 11:22:28 AM
LURKERS! That's the name I was looking for...

Cheers Beefcake; I knew there was something off with the name I used. I just checked the Heresy invoice for the heads, and I can confirm it was 'Lurkers'...  :D

Too bad they're gone; I could do with some more, as I ran out building my swarm. Better send an email myself too...
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: DS615 on March 18, 2019, 12:14:49 PM
They instantly reminded me of the Marvel villain "Venom".
If you can find some clix, a head swap would work.
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Onebigriver on March 18, 2019, 12:35:33 PM
I was hoping Heresy still did the Lurker heads but it doesn't seem to be the case.
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Daeothar on March 18, 2019, 01:25:56 PM
I was hoping Heresy still did the Lurker heads but it doesn't seem to be the case.

My bad; I totally missed that line under the pictures... ::)

Still though; it couldn't hurt emailing Andy, just in case. I know I will...
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Onebigriver on March 18, 2019, 02:08:33 PM
My bad; I totally missed that line under the pictures... ::)

Still though; it couldn't hurt emailing Andy, just in case. I know I will...

Good idea I must admit, will email him. I do have a couple of the Lurkers, shame he withdrew them.
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Cait Sidhe on March 18, 2019, 02:40:56 PM
Good idea I must admit, will email him. I do have a couple of the Lurkers, shame he withdrew them.

Apparently they were real mould rippers with the spines on their back and the claws. Surprised Andy hasn't reworked them given how popular they were and he's been remastering a bunch of his minis. I think they would look fine without any spines like the vampires above.
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Daeothar on March 18, 2019, 03:22:56 PM
If I recall correctly, he has been selling the heads separately for the past few years. Hopefully, they were on a separate mould, because I could certainly do with another couple of dozen...
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Onebigriver on March 18, 2019, 06:58:28 PM



Apparently they were real mould rippers with the spines on their back and the claws. Surprised Andy hasn't reworked them given how popular they were and he's been remastering a bunch of his minis. I think they would look fine without any spines like the vampires above.

IIRC he did say he was going to redo them at the time he withdrew them, but best laid plans....I'd bought 2 to be future predators in a game based on the Primeval TV series. Wish I'd bought more now! You never know, Andy might get chance one day.
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: beefcake on March 19, 2019, 07:58:30 AM
I was hoping Heresy still did the Lurker heads but it doesn't seem to be the case.

Oops, missed that too! I think he may have been planning on rereleasing them though as part of the kickstarter he ran as I saw they were available to purchase in it.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/heresyminiatures/return-of-the-monsters/description
It's a fair way down to see the pics.
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Cait Sidhe on March 19, 2019, 10:58:49 AM
Oops, missed that too! I think he may have been planning on rereleasing them though as part of the kickstarter he ran as I saw they were available to purchase in it.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/heresyminiatures/return-of-the-monsters/description
It's a fair way down to see the pics.

They're flagged as KS exclusives so I guess a limited run only for backers.
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Onebigriver on March 19, 2019, 05:37:48 PM
I'm sure I've seen GW's bloodletters converted to Gigeresque aliens so I might pick some up on Ebay at some point.
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: GDonk on March 19, 2019, 06:52:06 PM
Possibly, but I doubt I could source them separately!
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There are quite often people on E-Bay selling separate Genestealer heads, if that's of interest to you . .
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Onebigriver on March 19, 2019, 07:10:42 PM
Thanks, did a search today. TBH I think they might look odd on Mantic bodies.
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: GDonk on March 20, 2019, 06:07:08 PM
Fair enough. Good luck with the project - I look forward to seeing the results. All the best
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: mcfonz on March 20, 2019, 08:03:58 PM
They were available as seperate heads, may well be worth contacting him for them. I have done so for other heads with success. It may just be he hasn't added them to the new system yet.
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Daeothar on March 22, 2019, 08:09:07 AM
I dropped Andy an email, and amidst his preparations for Salute, he found the time to answer quite quickly.

It's as Cait Sidhe mentioned; mould wear. As I understood it, they're in the same mould as the Hellhound heads, and those were 'mizing up' the mould.

He can still supply them, but has to cast them separately, as they're also out of stock. He was thinking of withdrawing them, as he mentioned that I was the only one who has ordered them!

Now, I know that mcfonz definitely had some, as my own alien horde project was heavily based on his, using the same heads, so that may not be entirely true. But obviously nobody has bought any since September 2017, when I ordered mine.

At any rate; I've asked him for about 40 extra heads, and he will cast them up. I told him that I was not in a hurry, so it might take a while, but if there are others interested in getting some, I'd suggest emailing Andy as well, so he can cast them up in one big batch...

Oh, and Onebigriver: if you're after Hormagaunt heads; I have plenty of spares... ;)
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Onebigriver on March 22, 2019, 08:44:11 AM
Thanks Daeothar!
Title: Re: Help with Monster/Alien Heads
Post by: Ragsta on April 02, 2019, 03:25:13 PM

Inspired by Daeothar’s prompting I may have sent a similar message...  :P