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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Cacique Caribe on March 26, 2019, 12:32:00 PM
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I just came across this item, and thought some of you might find it useful as a playing surface:
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KTQAAOSw76hZkXQx/s-l300.jpg)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Abstract-Wall-Vinyl-Background-Backdrop-3x5ft-Photography-Studio-Props/142475933077
Or at least for taking photos, seeing as how it is apparently a non-glare material.
Anyway, enjoy.
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Yes it would.
It looks great.
The price is nice, BUT
the cost of getting it in the UK is a deal breaker.
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I found similar items on Amazon for photography backgrounds. Picked up large one with an interstellar background for space ship combat.
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the cost of getting it in the UK is a deal breaker.
Hmm
I see shipping at 2$ (Shipped to Poland)
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WilliamB: “I found similar items on Amazon for photography backgrounds.“
That’s where I came across the one in my link above. :)
This might be of interest to you then:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fantasy-Nebula-Backdrop-7x5ft-Science-fiction-Background-Photography-Studio-Prop/182763864894?hash=item2a8d93433e:g:zQsAAOSw9DVZufCD
Dan
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Reminds me of the opening shots from Red Dwarf.
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This one isn't suitable for my needs... however I think you've stumbled on a really good idea here.
A quick search of Ebay and I've found a ton of vinyl backdrops in browns/greens/greys that would be suitable for a generic playing surface to cover with terrain.
Even the 7'×5' ones are only about £10 inc delivery which is much cheaper than the ones marketed by gaming companies.
Wonder what the quality is like?
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MagpieJono
I just ordered this one, the “Mud Road Texture”:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Photography-Background-Photo-Vedio-Props-Backdrop-Scratches-Texture-Art-New/273215815488?var=572498719738
I hope it can do double duty on my small table (3x5ft), for both off-world desert (like a Firefly outer rim planet) and for post apocalyptic wastelands.
Dan
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Well, for those worried about postage to UK, Amazon.co.uk seems to have something of this type as well. 4X:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ZAIQUN-Photography-Background-Backdrops-Studio/dp/B0714R3CKL
Not sure how fine detail they have, might have to try one to see.
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MagpieJono
I just ordered this one, the “Mud Road Texture”:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Photography-Background-Photo-Vedio-Props-Backdrop-Scratches-Texture-Art-New/273215815488?var=572498719738
I hope it can do double duty on my small table (3x5ft), for both off-world desert (like a Firefly outer rim planet) and for post apocalyptic wastelands.
Dan
You'll have to let us know how it is when it comes Dan.
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Mud road texture looks nice, but the don't ship to the UK.
Low shipping is nice, but Her Majesty's Customs & Excise will want their
pound of flash & the Post Office will want a few quid 'For the admin' ie. one form.
I will look on internet for similar UK based stuff. Thanks lads.
By the way let us all know what they are like 'in the flesh'.
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Mud road texture looks nice, but the don't ship to the UK.
Low shipping is nice, but Her Majesty's Customs & Excise will want their
pound of flash & the Post Office will want a few quid 'For the admin' ie. one form.
I will look on internet for similar UK based stuff. Thanks lads.
By the way let us all know what they are like 'in the flesh'.
You can specify in Ebay for UK sellers. There are plenty such as this one https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F322973970272
Still under a tenner free postage.
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Thanks Magpie. I will look further into UK suppliers. Worth having one or two of them at those prices.
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Thanks for the heads up. I’ve ordered one with a brown / desert print.
I’m interested to see what the finish is as they all seem to be described as cloth and vinyl
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It will probably be very thin, but I’ll post pictures. At least the glare should be minimal when I take them, seeing as how they are made for taking photos.
Dan
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I have no use for the background you posted, but I'll bey trawling ebay for a photobackground that looks like an ocean :)
Thanks for sharing, I'd never have thought to look for photobackgrounds/backdrops otherwise :)
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I have no use for the background you posted, but I'll bey trawling ebay for a photobackground that looks like an ocean :)
Do you mean something like this?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-3x5ft-Vintage-Tie-Dye-Photography-Backdrops-Hand-Painted-Art-Backgrounds-Hot/253387131621?var=552550739381
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H0.Xturquoise+green.TRS0&_nkw=turquoise+green&_sacat=79003&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=15&_osacat=79003&_odkw=turquoise
There are many other similar ones too:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/5x3FT-Vinyl-Photo-Blue-Wall-Photography-Background-Studio-Props/182987699242
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Retro-Gradient-Color-Photography-Backgrounds-10x10-Studio-Photo-Backdrops-Props/323042882322?var=512170185585
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Very much like those :)
I havent decided on wether a turquoise/caribbean colour or a darker blue will be best.
Although at these prices one of each is quite feasible. Ordered seperately of course to be under the minimum amount of the vigorus danish customs people
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Oh EXCELLENT suggestion!
Never thought of anything like this. Just ordered a "cement grey" one that'll be awesome for lunar gaming with Amera plastic craters scattered on it.
I'll keep an eye out for other ones.
Thank you!!
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Hope it helps! And, if this really catches on, I hope that some people remember where they heard it first. :)
Would this next one work for the toxic surface of an alien planet, if the bottom portion were removed?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cracked-Wall-Marble-Floor-Photo-Background-6x6ft-Studio-Photography-Backdrops/253449375065?hash=item3b02c28d59:g:bjUAAOSwafZakSBe
Dan
PS. This orange-red wall looks Alien-like also:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Retro-Tie-Dye-Backdrops-Summer-Textures-Photography-Background-Studio-Photo-Prop/312438776854?var=611115612604
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Thanks for the heads up. I’ve ordered one with a brown / desert print.
I’m interested to see what the finish is as they all seem to be described as cloth and vinyl
The mat arrived today, so less than a week from ordering.
It’s certainly very thin, it is cloth despite the vinyl in the name. The print quality isn’t great close up, but on a table it will look fine, there is a 1cm or so white boarder around the edges, which I’m not sure will be noticed when playing. The surface has a slight tackiness to it.
Certainly a cheap way of getting a decent sized table coverings, the Deep cut mat is much better, but is 10x the price. I think these would be good for giving character to games which are played less often.
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Thanks for the write up Fred.
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Got a picture Fred? Really curious how these look in real life. The typical eBay pictures don't tell anything about the actual product.
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Sure, looks like it would work for several kinds of sci-fi gaming. But first and foremost it got me thinking of searching ebay for photo backgrounds. :D
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Got a picture Fred? Really curious how these look in real life. The typical eBay pictures don't tell anything about the actual product.
Not yet, but should be able to take some tomorrow afternoon
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Oh! Like WOW man!
We've been looking at this all wrong.
We could use them as.... backgrounds for (our) photos!!!!
Seriously I had not thought of that.
I was even planning to spray a sheet of hardboard to look like sky...Doh!
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Found cheap UK source see many possible examples most seemingly under solid colour which are anything but solid colour - between 6 to 7 pounds sounds like it would be worth trying.
Home page and they seem to have a sale at the moment https://www.buy-backdrop.com/
https://www.buy-backdrop.com/new-design-fashion-vinyl-indoor-pure-color-background-theme-attractive-backdrop-wedding-work-photography-p-5592.html - grass forest jungle?
https://www.buy-backdrop.com/latest-thin-photography-background-attractive-fadeless-museum-studio-backdrops-fashion-wallpaper-p-5500.html - might work for snow?
https://www.buy-backdrop.com/fashion-customizable-photography-background-outdoors-photo-backdrops-attractive-vinyl-wallpaper-p-5514.html sci fi planet maybe desert
https://www.buy-backdrop.com/fashion-customizable-photography-background-theme-stage-photo-backdrops-attractive-vinyl-wallpaper-p-5517.html
and https://www.buy-backdrop.com/attractive-outdoors-photo-backdrops-fashion-photography-background-vinyl-durable-wallpaper-p-5526.html
another two for possible dry arid settings
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I’ll try and post photos this weekend of the ones I got.
In the meantime, if anyone needs asphalt/concrete surfaces, check this out:
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=116173.0
Dan
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Just stumbled on this topic, anybody got theirs in yet? these do seem very useful!
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Yes, I got mine. Took some photos. Forgot to upload them...
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Got mine.. they are quite sheer. Maybe too much. Ill get some pics in use this weekend if someone doesn't beat me to it.
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Here are some photos of the cloth I got:
On the table - the figures are 10mm tanks in the foreground and 15mm infantry in the distance. The cloth has a lot of creases from transit - I assume these will come out with an iron. I'm being lazy and hoping they magically fall out on their own...
The cloth is light and quite stiff so doesn't sit well over hills placed under it. The white edges aren't an issue as they are either off the edges of the table, or are right at the edge, where you are expecting an edge anyway.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/X0V-QRz2eeUr-suKf9YvfgeVbtBT7Nyih2JIVlLugxdtsLq1xEvDRFyu2B8v_baaAZF9Un8rCCMMnZdZ-kJ1EspXGhjodleYVL4a8BEOojnsj15nmPLPw_2mEiCULrLrkLm6IHcqL4x6RMJ96ONW_KiWXjfuq9JS4suA6CaWW1i36_v2J_XD311CWMLfoPtoGIIQvFkta0jL6Vy9i7tFfKH8rht16cWTxucnwebErK9fWX5jiT2LsXlnIn76VRTm7Z9t9_G8LsJJA7SI8ENoO9dgZ7SN9fhLP8V8dd8kBMsB5G61wAbhhVEzrx9m7EZvdeHiQlOEE9jeuzoDO3DclAyBEtYGLt45tfjTdErOAIdn7uSrc62ktxQF7uC8FqKBxHFiE5Qjmg8nZmuooBSp9nQQMn18np990jNU1Roz01mUM8uKXD7rucqQ1lJS0nyGQonJ87s1TkvAGYDjiBHjvGmzua5_aJI6GGa7le1Qge5xClkHSEcL9GL61h5dZ5TaBm9GCKRrNJVp_thcXZpwcMBxlst5ImDJxNW0QtgPCnFy0FR_nXAQYGt_Ws1_Tj8x9qfX_zx2gsz7au2gU7wjtuqcoK-X1CjTC9fio61M4xdo72GBqspK73RMiBj3QIE3tFBvPwNfk77HB7ZKpj4OWnwQoWpAy8VqAhCkdgJf3XA8gkD8A6haiBzEz8zKyPMkAFJt0Jq13EstWvrEoUvC49lElQ=w900-h675-no)
Closer view of the 10mm tanks on the hill
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fExbgi12cCnHhkN4tSAedlq6DXvgz3gOC2KMLI5USRA1u35rirdkOiIm1lGlrf5_zld2pr4NIrMNVY6-6kakoiEx7SmCCNlPiU0C6WkOhVNxPGfamyyzYvyJ66E9rz0Qxtktb1vVbgYtFBWCVxhKfxkwJFpYpOXdwolROYYdGe90BBYcchg9GGkVJOdbAoEiEwo9LR294qSLeim3YmyYTboDBOdPsPTylsDUAjq9JxsISzQMLv-Tw9hUrQeAec7QCG_y3T94zd-xBta_iuPVsrgDLL5s5DOgPiCXU5eJBwcrjw6zVvcSUMviE06ZJ04YXdq_BKdkVciSVZ0KtsAIMyIjWw9ul_tO2c5Mj2U47jDyRWhUlNkzLABt1rcrsV_4d5WNdupkHaI86p3C4tLW6rqVZzVgopV4o-daN5gIu8rb2qP1zVdSe2mnXjcgiFgGbVRdQzu3vXpHQxgHiAAAW5n7p19F9Ieh98i_HFzhV25zHgsXzNKwn-C1-9UaOLzfgMSZLM_6pVS-D8M3chiK18Zk_qWZV6E4GHTr6sL98zpAN3vdye2Q70KU2dDIS8K2280q3Pa1fHj2O6bdgb64gOkuugaeLAknwG0c8lRMM8HkyDvgtqwHu7VfLxKTuzFRGwxgHSne_LdUooGK-wEfuXT1QBdPcU87e7cPGX-W18Ed-ppJDC90Q8c2Hgsu79XlQ3IIRvuE6_B9LKRBoxXKiG2elQ=w900-h675-no)
15mm figures
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HEvyNtflmQwdjQq0Kdvpgd6u2QsP5eWuZ2ivedFFuSJflMSnwY2N6sF3LQGPx6-p9O5l3g4Fdrrw8FoKmvnWOWrjwRb7q0oc094pJUmb7e1FYXqWC3WzAu_YHeOTi_Mj5o_WhYfmt6aHLDvtMBybJUD_HIGVDUXp0nZWROBHd4D8NmmHzF5_eDNzsZmzTPQ0fc4nOGPtOO8siPfTsQlZOPhyJ4Hxbk4BMbe97ZSRGoa66guzpF8kolSL9HfS0URfbfpEJWM0mgAEVirxoUuN1XE5-ZiTr9OXWYacQjsTFiA0YYEBlL4N9ZluSVR7yJJkOLsoeTMQegNlDL7O6a6TnzcxLhgQU3k7RvYjmx3XIzdG0zkhbHxYZapIhw-HS3x3EWSKJEYfnm29zUByHUg8lzHk9GeW3EeKf7Zrj37MNAUIMrwEiqpw5UQe1GpPBTRTm7Stlbs6_BkYrcaYH3UorF_yTQOx12BNGbUw_oSiZjWVc_eDsoOfpdTnBDSaJxIz5aZgwcawVAJG4eQhubBJwNnVQcFk2bWePuPsJ3oALR3EhJ7gTDZu6xcqx3NUVr3O7SE9T3PUi2Z5ONi-2Z05XRJRjIZZt1-RtCsyvMhqAf0EJx2ro62Ug-FHdzTi5o7cXyGhQl2jPG-pXGIa8FuGQp0ZpeL8N3OAOBskV9LQm8nfDjDMqIwDYGo0kmuMOqLsTFJO1TuAelF4D_pxZVB2iCc5gg=w900-h675-no)
Close up of the printing
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ACCvgJR94QseURnlnUnFOUzBmgusLfGsAxYN2me7Bn5nmFkL9Z6bM9Gj1vcU9CmfjdMGUhpodGFeBJvOxtMzFgzzZCcnHrezNLk-J4R6HqN5aBWx2FGxJYzAtjSkIgVEb6K5A8klynFxMgwsFT_uRuTI_pVpb4SPrg-iegwOC_biACP2S4gp2KVViHk-2Cqk2Ujun6FxF6fhpizUUl4JKZmX2ndj26o855TGk-qn76irlY5OG4krqV3RuEDqiO_UTD9othRevDsKGxy9LL8dhErcp1e0NfBRzr7WUBdR17XCMGhpmBNSVKCLbgLr2Yr8dXqmwlBBjkXkVXaD-SBLADtPJ2iiVjqqzXa9Kj64q9PBsnavHRWZWXwBIEzw0mw-D_Z9RTnWrbnLx7Hr2JRYFJbBf-62hfcO31e4IazKi-WjJaSEGuRhVCodh9KJq1zL7all0UEJRSaBsEHw45vqwzbXZhdCJueuam2l7K307T5BXEe5j7GXjzYgQ3uaCDQkpkFCAqXE4erqQnbHEhShveLmauUFWvc3-AC1aQ88PVjaEZekvn_lvc-7uS7cky8Q5hmHTSgX5oy3z6ANffnc3i5BXIGAb1tOJ4-uHFCOyBOC5Dm1OS6yRFBy66ILYXoWwFWzO3qnnGIaDz4TeB1t4jL6L5P4CzhTJTI5oZGrLqubh6TG4xpgSkuDjcMHfG0IDYu5td9sHUETkPN3XAeCylSPPw=w813-h1083-no)
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Thanks for the pictures Fred, that says a lot more than the ones the seller has up!
I wonder how much of a problem the folds would be on the sci-fi one, it already has a divided pattern in the same direction so it might blend in a bit more.
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Received my turquoise green mat (for my pulp and fantasy games that require a sea or archipelago). The creases suck and the mat is of low quality abd thin...ironing helps somewhat but because of the material it deforms somewhat. And be careful not to tear it at the creases.
So good enough for the price and great for niche games, but not really as a main mat I'd say. I chose this one as I rarely play with a sea setting and I think it'll work well for those games
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Malebolgia
I’m almost tempted to hit the back of mine with fabric spray adhesive and lay it on canvas or something else with substance, so that it can roll up for storage. I would need to iron out the creases on the vinyl mat before doing that.
The wife suggested that, if I do that, I would need to put some small “hem weights” on the four corners, just to make sure the surface always lays flat while in use.
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Hello
I’ve just ordered this 3x5ft one for a basic city asphalt/tar surface, on top of which one can add the buildings, sidewalks, etc.:
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/272509677761-0-1/s-l1000.jpg)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3X5FT-Abstract-Gray-Gradient-Backdrop-Photography-Backdrop-Photos-Studio-Props/273819052196?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
I hope it ends up looking the same as in the picture.
By the way, here’s their 5x7ft one, if that interests you more:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Abstract-Gray-Gradient-Backdrop-Photography-Backdrop-5x7ft-Photos-Studio-Props/272509677761?hash=item3f72d7b0c1:g:5toAAOSwgLVZo8k9
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Got my own test buy last week. Rather like the one pictured above but more blueish (at least IRL) and about the same price. Creases mostly vanished with some ironing (and no doubt someone with a better idea of what temp to use for the material could've done better). The details (such as they are) are coarse, which I suppose is kind of obvious and in the case of something like this particular canvas it doesn't matter too much either. Fairly happy but based on this one example I don't expect these to impress anyone used to actual good quality miniature gaming battle mats. With the caveat that I've mostly seen those in pix only as well so maybe they aren't so hot either.
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I ordered mine a while ago - pretty cheap as I had a $10 voucher from eBay trying to entice me abck after a prolonged absence.
Anyway, here's a few photos:
(https://i.imgur.com/mKuqCug.jpg?1)
It's a dent size and will do for most formats.
X-Wing stuff looks by no means out of place:
(https://i.imgur.com/UrX4dAa.jpg?1)
This print may be okay for games like legion as well:
(https://i.imgur.com/aPHB9Wk.jpg)
Would work better with a lot of urban terrain.
As mentioned above, a good iron is necessary to get rid of the packing creases in the material. Other than that,looks okay to go. The other prints also look quite serviceable. Not sure it will stand up to rough handling so durability may be an issue depending on who you game with.
That said, if you've got an eBay voucher burning a hole in your in-box you could do worse than splash out on one or two of these.