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Miniatures Adventure => Pulp => Topic started by: Rich H on March 31, 2019, 10:40:28 PM
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What started out as a bit of a fun build of the Tucker Sno-cat has sort of snowballed...
I started kicking the idea of a Co-op/solo polar exploration game after watching 'The Thing' (the later one not the 50s one) So after a plea on here for a bit of help it turns out Chris has a kickstarter for exactly the right minis! So I basically ended up drafting Whiteout
You take you intrepid team of 3-6 explorers into the arctic tundra to carry out the bidding of a pretty shady government. Your plausibly deniable (and extremely expendable) crew are sent off to clean up various government messes on the quiet while the environment, local fauna and the opposing government's troops do their best to kill you.
The concept is one of random terrain generation and random encounters all driven by cards (3 decks of standards playing cards will do but proper cards will be available eventually). No two missions will be the same and the game will hinge around hording stuff to stay alive while actually getting the job done before you freeze to death or lose the plot... Add in a dose of paranoia, submarines and polar bears for good measure.
Currently the game is in the early stages of alpha testing and clarifications where my perfectly formed rules unravels for want of a comma... lol I've also been schooled on wolves and whiskey.
Fortunately I've got a decent bunch of testers who aren't worried about upsetting me :( Which is exactly what is needed from the playtesters! :D
More will follow.
Rich
Just for a bit of fun - WIP
What it is supposed to look like
(https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/smgco-images/images/3/259/medium_1981_1273__0001_.jpg)
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Awesome! I think Chris was working on something like this as well.
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Isn't there an OOP model of this somewhere? I'm getting vague memories, but maybe that's just age... lol
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Isn't there an OOP model of this somewhere? I'm getting vague memories, but maybe that's just age... lol
Copplestone.
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Yep.Copplestone had a couple of different vehicles.
I do belive Rich's version will sit more comfortablely with the Pulp miniatures figures.
Rich, I'd recommend open hatches and removable roof.Or a slightly more useful version from a gaming point of view . Would be a flat bed.
As I've seen the Copplestone one used in a couple games where its little more than a odd shaped brick holding down the mat. It doesn't lend its self to much interpretation or provide any plausible area to place figures when gamed with.Which is a shame as its quite a signific piece of kit on a winter themed table.
Still the speed your knocking these ideas out with is impressive
Mark.
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Good idea. The internal layout is very simple.
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Is there enough room for the hot-tub?
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It's not Finnish ;)
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That's one cool cat - nice work, looking forward to seeing the solid version.
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been chopping it up a bit (electronically!)
I've now got a hollow cab with basic dash and seat and hollow rear cabin.
The roof is removable and in two parts too.
I'm going to open up the roof hatch too.
I've also made a 'what-if' open load deck in the style of a flat bed truck of the era.
It's pretty tiny despite how it looks! It will fit on th eback of a flat bed truck!
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LlrAnrXSLFQ/ToGztL3UcII/AAAAAAAADew/B6rtHFVY9g0/s400/1957%2BSnowy%2BMountains%2BHydro-Electric%2BScheme%2BLoading%2Bsnow%2Bcat%2Bonto%2Btruck%2Bphotographer%252C%2BW%2BPedersen%2BTucker%2BSnow%2BCat%2Bmay%2Bbe%2Ba%2BFreighter%2BDouble%2BDrive%2BNo%2B743.jpg)
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That looks like a Gerry Anderson show. :-* You know I'm going to nagg for them.
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I wonder if they do orange resin?
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They do do orange resin...
Very nearly done.
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Nice work Rich.
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Thanks, only fiddly bits still to go.
Door handles and hinges
Check the suspension (looks a bit simple at the mo)
Bonnet and grill details
Might make another rear hull with windows.
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..and hot tub.
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Now post print curing in the dim sunlight of Lancashire.
Not been tidied up yet so still bits of support to trim and sand.
The rest of it is still in the printer as it didn't fit!
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Does it come with Order Dice too? :D
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Print failed so reprinting now.
Plus just for funsies.
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What are you up to? ;)
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What? You mean you've Snow idea !
Sorry couldn't resist ;D
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First print. Some mods done mostly making bits more robust
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That is one nice little model :o :-*
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VW blaze orange. Not perfect but all halfords had to offer today!
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Tweaked the model to sharpen up the letters, I spent ages softening the edges like the real thing... now I've just had to spend ages removing it...
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Great work Rich...I have no need for one, but suspect I’ll end up getting a couple
lol
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So is the hot tub in the rear compartment then?
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Still no hot tub.
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Genius!
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That looks very good indeed!
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A friend of mine is going to cut me some vinyl letters for the logo - not sure I could freehand it neatly enough!
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We are going to be well served for Arctic gear as we have a small Snow-Cat and a Ski-doo in our upcoming Sally 4th Classic Movie Miniatures Mountain & Arctic Kickstarter!
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Noted then in the other thread - nice!
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My skidoo and first Jamesway hut
(I know the jamesways have fabric roofs but this will do for now)
I need 4 huts so they will all be different. I'm hoping to make the roof removable somehow on the others but I've not figured it our yet as the corrugated card is strong when curved like this but extremely fragile if not supported well.
I also need a surfaced sub, an icebound ship, an arctic base, loads of icey things like crevasse fields, pressure ridges, thin ice, and so on....
#Whiteout
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Very nice work Rich, I particularly like the Sno Cat.
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Interesting developments :)
As for supporting the corrugated card, how about 3-2 mdf arcs, connected with with 2-3 strips of mdf the lenght of the hut (minus the thickness of the two walls).
Its hard to explain but basically a # where the horizontal lines are curved?
They would only be visible when the roof is removed so it shouldnt offend anyone.
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I started down that route, I even drew it all, then figured it was all to hard... lol
Might try again and turn this one into a burned out wreck.
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Rich,
I was contemplating vinyl floor tyles as a base .Should be easy to represent most of the tiles .It should easily work for the ice bound ship, and submarine by pushing the base model up from underneath.Through a shaped hole in the tile.
Just a musing at the moment.( it means standing in B&Q hoping no one asks me if I need any help. Because you know the look your going to get when you say what you want them for.)
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lol
Will work fine, good idea. I was plannign on using polystyrene tiles but can't find 12/12...
Like when I was in Games workshop buying paint and the GW minion asked what army it was for and I said a 1947 Soviet scout platoon. I got a "Oh cool...." ###Does not compute###out of cheese error### and he just backed away....
(If you don't know what we are on about then all will become slightly less murky in due course... ;D )
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lol
They've stopped asking me Anything!
I'd also thought abought using the tabletop protector you get at Dunelms .White felt one side and pvc the other .
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This weekend, I'm going to be starting making some Terra-Former 12" tiles for this.
Very excited, I've had snow & arctic tiles on my 'must try' list for several years now.
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I was thinking of reversing things and having my snow felt cloth with 12" squares of wadding covering it up instead.
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I think both version are possible from the one source.
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In the meantime... huts and a sub sail.
No one told me they were so big... this is a guppy2 class fin at 1/56 scale. Its massive....
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:o
To scale never even crossed my mind . The ship should be interesting then. lol
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Liking those huts!
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(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-uss-ronquil-stands-in-for-the-us-nuclear-attack-submarine-uss-in-picture-id1077133886)
They are pretty big ;) I did look at shrinking the scale but to keep room for a 25mm base on the bridge I couldn't easily. I was going to shorten it but figured in for a penny..... lol
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Does the sub have a hot tub?
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Not until 1975, this is a 60's sub.
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Now I was thinking a little more like this would be more likely to change the colour of the snow once sighted. ( slightly under gunned compared to the bigger subs.)
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Had you gone with an early SSN, like USS Nautilus you could have had a substantially shorter sail.
Fascinating project btw.
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It's the 'Tigerfish' from Ice Station zebra. So appropriate to the theme :D
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Bit more work completed
28mm mini for scale
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Careful now.
This could easily become another Reichstag. ;D
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Curiously the first thing SWMBO said was "there better not be a submarine to go under that"
I was impressed she recognised it for what it was actually :-*
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lol
You didn't happen to show here what you've written?
Because it's literally on the cards.
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I modelled a similar (although slightly smaller version) for Wargames, Soldiers & Strategy back in 2015.
Here is an image;
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gBr-GRIw1Pk/VKZqmyZZLuI/AAAAAAAAMt4/io5A-V5AiOo/s1600/Zebra%2BSubmarine%2B072.jpg)
You can find details in W, S & S issue 76. I always intended modelling the ice flows but never got around to it.
Yours looks great. As usual!
Tony
https://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/2015/01/uss-tigerfish-ssn-509-from-ice-station.html (https://dampfpanzerwagon.blogspot.com/2015/01/uss-tigerfish-ssn-509-from-ice-station.html)
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Neat. Yours is a far more sensible size! I just can't help myself... lol
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Looking good!
Tony - great painting, I really like the use of silver/washes.
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Great stuff!
These threads,and Mark’s made me pull out my road going Hurricane fighter ‘plane... ;D
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Work in progress on today's little project, an ice bound ship tile for Whiteout!
I'm using a spare Tramp Steamer that I assembled for writing the kit instructions.
I'm setting it into a 2' x 1' Terra-Former Tile. All the other tiles are going to be 1' square for maximum swapability.
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Work in progress on the prototype Sally 4th Jamesway Hut.
This is to scale and is actually the smallest size that was supplied. The width goes to double this, and it was supplied in depths of 6' multiples. This is scale 30' deep or 5 bays. I've made an accurate support structure in case any one wants to model a derelict one with canvas removed! I've made base bigger at front as photos often show a porch way to keep the weather out made from the packing cases the hut was supplied in.
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Cool!
Or shoudl I say COLD!
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Nearly done.
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OK for anyone reading this wondering what is going on it's in order to test a new set of rules I've been kicking around for a bit.
It's a co-op/solo game of polar exploration, secret missions and trying not to die in the snowy wastes...
Currently it's a very early stage with my crack team of testers currently giving it a pull through.
Hopefully more to follow....
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In June Sally 4th will be launching our 3rd Classic Movies Kickstarter, based on adventurers in the Arctic and mountainous environments. At the core are some lovely looking miniatures that Mark Fuller has sculpted for us ‘inspired by’ some favorite films set in cold places. We are very fortunate that at the same time as we were developing this range and associated Arctic terrain that quiet independently, Richard Humble has been developing an exciting Solo / Co-Op play set of rules; Whiteout which is also set in the Arctic. We have agreed to work together, Sally 4th will publish the Whiteout rules, cards and vehicles that Richard has designed alongside our own Arctic models as part of our Kickstarter which will run for 2 week in June with fulfillment in December.
(https://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/WebRoot/Namesco/Shops/950003459/MediaGallery/Hobby_Articles/Arctic/Sub_4.jpg)
Project Includes
• Ski-doo kit (metal & resin kit)
• Medium SnowCat & Trailer (MDF & Card Kit)
• Large SnowCat (Resin Kit)
• Arctic Science researchers (4 fig pack)
• Skiers (4 fig pack)
• Arctic soldiers (4 fig pack)
• Sub Conning tower breaking through ice (MDF, Card, 3-Decals and resin)
• Arctic research station (MDF & card)
• Crashed Satellite / Camera Objective Marker (resin)
• Jamesway Hut – Accommodation (MDF & card)
• Jamesway Hut – Garage (MDF & card)
• Expedition dome tent (resin)
• Tramp steamer kit for Ice Bound Ship
• Printed Whiteout Rulebook
• Printed Whiteout cards
Stretch Goals
• Ice Station Zebra Character Pack
• Soviet Paratroopers in Arctic Kit
• Character pack based on ‘The Thing’
• Dog Sledge Pack
• Man pulled sledge pack
• Arctic wildlife pack
Any additional stretch goal ideas, please let us know.
We are really looking forward to working with Richard , Mark and Nik from N-FX to deliver a great game with a complete accompanying set of miniatures, terrain and vehicles.
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I've also been very busy at the weekend, working on my own set of terrain for 'Whiteout'
(https://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/WebRoot/Namesco/Shops/950003459/MediaGallery/Hobby_Articles/Arctic/Sub_3.jpg)
(https://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/WebRoot/Namesco/Shops/950003459/MediaGallery/Hobby_Articles/Arctic/Sub_5.jpg)
(https://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/WebRoot/Namesco/Shops/950003459/MediaGallery/Hobby_Articles/Arctic/ship_3.jpg)
I've put together a hobby blog where I will document the progress of the terrain boards and features, as well of course as sharing the key developments here.
http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/Hobby-Blog/Whiteout-Arctic-Gaming (http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/Hobby-Blog/Whiteout-Arctic-Gaming)
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This looks absolutely amazing Chris, Rich, and Mark!!! Can't wait for the Kickstarter :D
Regarding the stretch goals for 'The Thing' which movie are you basing the figures of off, the original (and best :) ) 1951 version or the Kurt Russell 1982 version?
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I have a confession to make... I have not seen either version of 'The Thing', and we only included it in project because a couple of gamers looked at what we had done so far and said, that would be great for 'The Thing', so it is on my to watch list, certainly for before the Kickstarter. Mark often takes elements from different depictions of something to feed into a miniature, so interested to hear his thoughts. We would need to pick 4 characters to make a pack, and of course the stretch goal would need to be met too!
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All looks great Chris, I've never done a kickstarter before but it might be time to dip my toes :)
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In June Sally 4th will be launching our 3rd Classic Movies Kickstarter, based on adventurers in the Arctic and mountainous environments. At the core are some lovely looking miniatures that Mark Fuller has sculpted for us ‘inspired by’ some favorite films set in cold places. We are very fortunate that at the same time as we were developing this range and associated Arctic terrain that quiet independently, Richard Humble has been developing an exciting Solo / Co-Op play set of rules; Whiteout which is also set in the Arctic. We have agreed to work together, Sally 4th will publish the Whiteout rules, cards and vehicles that Richard has designed alongside our own Arctic models as part of our Kickstarter which will run for 2 week in June with fulfillment in December.
(https://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/WebRoot/Namesco/Shops/950003459/MediaGallery/Hobby_Articles/Arctic/Sub_4.jpg)
Project Includes
• Ski-doo kit (metal & resin kit)
• Medium SnowCat & Trailer (MDF & Card Kit)
• Large SnowCat (Resin Kit)
• Arctic Science researchers (4 fig pack)
• Skiers (4 fig pack)
• Arctic soldiers (4 fig pack)
• Sub Conning tower breaking through ice (MDF, Card, 3-Decals and resin)
• Arctic research station (MDF & card)
• Crashed Satellite / Camera Objective Marker (resin)
• Jamesway Hut – Accommodation (MDF & card)
• Jamesway Hut – Garage (MDF & card)
• Expedition dome tent (resin)
• Tramp steamer kit for Ice Bound Ship
• Printed Whiteout Rulebook
• Printed Whiteout cards
Stretch Goals
• Ice Station Zebra Character Pack
• Soviet Paratroopers in Arctic Kit
• Character pack based on ‘The Thing’
• Dog Sledge Pack
• Man pulled sledge pack
• Arctic wildlife pack
Any additional stretch goal ideas, please let us know.
We are really looking forward to working with Richard , Mark and Nik from N-FX to deliver a great game with a complete accompanying set of miniatures, terrain and vehicles.
Sounds great. I’m thinking even more Bond...stealthy with snowsuit and silenced pistol, and on a snowboard. Other Arctic film inspiration might include a film also called “Whiteout” a female US Marshall in snow gear perhaps?
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I'm currently working on combining elements from all three films (1951,1982, 2011).heres the first test musing.Not a master just a styling test.
Mark.
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Really cool
I've modified the first post to clarify what is going on a bit... repeated here:
I started kicking the idea of a Co-op/solo polar exploration game after watching 'The Thing' (the later one not the 50s one) So after a plea on here for a bit of help it turns out Chris has a kickstarter for exactly the right minis! So I basically ended up drafting Whiteout
You take you intrepid team of 3-6 explorers into the arctic tundra to carry out the bidding of a pretty shady government. Your plausibly deniable (and extremely expendable) crew are sent off to clean up various government messes on the quiet while the environment, local fauna and the opposing government's troops do their best to kill you.
The concept is one of random terrain generation and random encounters all driven by cards (3 decks of standards playing cards will do but proper cards will be available eventually). No two missions will be the same and the game will hinge around hording stuff to stay alive while actually getting the job done before you freeze to death or lose the plot... Add in a dose of paranoia, submarines and polar bears for good measure.
Currently the game is in the early stages of alpha testing and clarifications where my perfectly formed rules unravels for want of a comma... lol I've also been schooled on wolves and whiskey.
Fortunately I've got a decent bunch of testers who aren't worried about upsetting me :( Which is exactly what is needed from the playtesters! :D
More will follow.
Rich
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You may want to contact Hu Rhu who did a very similar game at BLAM '17
(http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s540/garybourne/Ice%20Station%20Zebra/Sub20to20Base_zpsqgdfoazz.jpg)
Build thread here: https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=94670.0
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Interesting! I'll have a read.
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Looks like very good stuff!
Passing common themes but not much similar in detail. I'l keep reading though!
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Toyed with the idea of the odd mammal too .
There's also another thread I can't remember the name of . It covered a modular board idea which fit into a carrier bag. It might be worth a trawl for.
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Character looks great, and an Arctic wildlife pack is certainly on the stretch goal list as I'd really to see some mammals in the game too.
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I've assembled 12 winter germans as generic bad guys and Iv'e cut the roof out of the first Jamesway hut to make it removable - just need to add the frame to the roof.
Next will be:
2 more huts - possibly different designs
1 boat trapped in the ice (smaller than Chris's!)
1 Arctic base - 4 more huts
My polystyrene has arrived too so I need some hardboard to amke up the terrian tiles.
Possibles:
Another 3d print vehicle - Sweedish Snow-Trac.
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Now THAT has to have a hot tub!
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Tiger Minis stuff turned up 4x Archeologists 4x Explorers on skis and 5 wolves.
They are on the larger end of the 28mm scale and make the warlord plastics look a bit small! The wolves are on the small side too.
Even so I'll base them up and see what they look like with a bit of paint.
I also got my Britains plastic polar bear and walrus from the 1970's - demould-lined adn undercoated they will be fine. Going to base everything I reckon.
Finally my polystyrene tiles arrived. They are 500x500 (annoyingly 300x300 don't seem to be a thing anymore) so Ive gone for 250x250mm terrain squares, I was going to make them 300x300 but it would involve an awful lot of waste. Plus the change in tile size doesn't really marke much difference, just the encoutners will be a little closer... Sharp scalpel and they are all cut up. Table of simple textured terrain for £8.99
Next will be adding some 3d to the board, I'll be making up scatter to represent crevasses, pressure ridges and the like. Plus I need to make a hole for the sub sail and a boat.
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..and some photos.
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Sounds great. We're on holiday in Scotland over Easter weekend so no progress on the Sally 4th offering until next weekend, although mind is still active and working on new ideas!
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Terrain tiles drying. Polystyrene glued to hardboard
Tiger minis, warlord baddies, polar bear and a walrus
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Those skiers look great - I love the ideas coming together in this project.
Have fun
Finn
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I have finally found the use for the toy walrus I have in my bits box lol
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Those skiers look great - I love the ideas coming together in this project.
Have fun
Finn
Tiger mininis skiers look better than I anticipated. Where do the polar bear and walrus come from?
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Britains zoo toys!
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For those who don't have the mdf fu of Rich and Chris.
This would make a good stand in for an arctic base/building.
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Looks like half an arctic base there ;)
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For those who don't have the mdf fu of Rich and Chris.
This would make a good stand in for an arctic base/building.
Do the stoves lift up to disclose a 300 yard tunnel beneath? :)
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Those Great Escape POW huts do look great, I love the furniture. Might be a little drafty in the Arctic, but then you can always wrap up warm!
We will be releasing kits for an Arctic base as well as the Jamesway huts very shortly as part of the Whiteout / Classic Movies range, very shortly, along with the miniatures, vehicles, sub, crashed satellite, tents, ship etc....
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Britains zoo toys!
Is Britain’s still a thing? Naturally, you have lovingly recycled these from your youth?
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Ebay - the Walrus is 1975! lol
But I think thye are still a thing - I hope so as I want to get my lad some ;)
Many a happy hour laying out farms in the sandpit... :-*
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Had a look at three this morning and there's even a full retail display box of walrus (brain fart couldn't think of the plural for walrus ;D )
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Had a look at three this morning and there's even a full retail display box of walrus (brain fart couldn't think of the plural for walrus ;D )
Walri lol
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Ebay - the Walrus
Odd name for a Walrus.
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I think it's a perfectly normal name. I had a ferret called brush lol
(I've an odd mind in the middle of the night lol, the other one that was Bugging me was.Porcine = pig,bovine= cow,equine= horse.sheep?)
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(I've an odd mind in the middle of the night lol, the other one that was Bugging me was.Porcine = pig,bovine= cow,equine= horse.sheep?)
Ovine :) (I have a rather nice book with lots of useful lists like that!)
BTW I forgot to say, I am loving all this Whiteout stuff. Doug em4 reminded me that I have some terrain boards which are crying out for this.
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I've agreed to do a couple more packs of figures to go with Rich's and Chris's work.
Mark.
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BTW I forgot to say, I am loving all this Whiteout stuff. Doug em4 reminded me that I have some terrain boards which are crying out for this.
Glad to see you’re taking notice of an older and wiser chap, old boy....😀
Doug
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We're really grateful to Mark for his great sculpting.
What we have so far for definite in the project is:
• Ski-doo kit (metal & resin kit)
• Medium SnowCat & Trailer (MDF & Card Kit)
• Large SnowCat (Resin Kit)
• Arctic Science researchers (4 fig pack)
• Skiers (4 fig pack)
• Arctic soldiers (4 fig pack)
• Sub Conning tower breaking through ice (MDF, Card, 3-Decals and resin)
• Arctic research station (MDF & card)
• Crashed Satellite / Camera Objective Marker (resin)
• Jamesway Hut – Accommodation (MDF & card)
• Jamesway Hut – Garage (MDF & card)
• Expedition dome tent (resin)
• Tramp steamer kit for Ice Bound Ship
• Printed Whiteout Rulebook
• Printed Whiteout cards
Marks just started on the first couple of stretch goals, as I'm pretty certain this is going to be popular.
This is the full list of stretch goals, how many we get done will be dependent on how much interest there is in the project.
• Ice Station Zebra Character Pack
• Soviet Paratroopers in Arctic Kit
• Character pack based on ‘The Thing’
• Dog Sledge Pack
• Man pulled sledge pack
• Arctic wildlife pack
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First run through with Richard Naylor tonight. I was pleasantly surprised that it worked out OK. The card system works but it's clunky and remembering what all the cards do is hard work but either some printed cards of just stickers on the cards would fix that.
Suffice to say meeting a Polar Bear on the second tile at point blank did not go well... tweaks made and started again!
Some changes to be made to sort the balance and more details of the game to follow...
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Very exciting...
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It was actually. We ran out of time but I think we'd jsut entred a differnet phase, we'd been mauled by an enemy patrol and we were low on food. I suspect we might struggle to keep going for much longer which is exactly what it was intended to be.
Some things have been adjusted for balance and some clarified but generally we didn't find any parts that weren't covered in the rules to some extent
It narrated itself too, the polar bear encounter, the sentry appearing at the sight of the broken down sno-cat, the skulking wolves keeping an eye on us, the abandoned ship, the returning patrol... you'll see from the pictures the terrain totally randomly formed a harbour around a frozen in ship.
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We played it last night as well. lol
Rich I'll drop you a line at the weekend to let you know how we got on as were going to try agin on friday with a replay as I need to reread the rules.(As the first run saw little more than starvation ,an amorous walrus and a preasure ridge.)
Mark.
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OK thanks!
Surprised that that - we had all sorts of death and destruction going on. Pics will follow later!
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You've not got my luck lol( played zombies afterwards and the helicopter arrived on the third board )
It's was that bloody dog eating provisions that did for them. So when the Walrus arrived everyone had reduced stats,so it was able to get amorous.
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Oh I see! lol
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Not sure if you WANT to see that...
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We're really grateful to Mark for his great sculpting.
What we have so far for definite in the project is:
• Ski-doo kit (metal & resin kit)
• Medium SnowCat & Trailer (MDF & Card Kit)
• Large SnowCat (Resin Kit)
• Arctic Science researchers (4 fig pack)
• Skiers (4 fig pack)
• Arctic soldiers (4 fig pack)
• Sub Conning tower breaking through ice (MDF, Card, 3-Decals and resin)
• Arctic research station (MDF & card)
• Crashed Satellite / Camera Objective Marker (resin)
• Jamesway Hut – Accommodation (MDF & card)
• Jamesway Hut – Garage (MDF & card)
• Expedition dome tent (resin)
• Tramp steamer kit for Ice Bound Ship
• Printed Whiteout Rulebook
• Printed Whiteout cards
Marks just started on the first couple of stretch goals, as I'm pretty certain this is going to be popular.
This is the full list of stretch goals, how many we get done will be dependent on how much interest there is in the project.
• Ice Station Zebra Character Pack
• Soviet Paratroopers in Arctic Kit
• Character pack based on ‘The Thing’
• Dog Sledge Pack
• Man pulled sledge pack
• Arctic wildlife pack
I need this (like I need a hole in the head)
Can't wait
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So our first proper go at trying the rules!
Richard and I set out on a daring mission to recover a film canister from a politically and environmentally sensitive area on behalf of a shady unnamed gov't agency.
Our party was rolled up and we decided it consisted of Jean Claude Van Damme, Sean Connery and Roy and Moss from the IT crowd.
So two heroes and 2 nerds ;)
It started badly... Finding an isolated hut was a good start... finding there was a polar bear behind it was not!
It turns out that the polar bear as originally specced was an unstoppable monster and basically ate the whole party. But that's what play testing is for! So readjusted the stats and tried again. Turns out Roy was a crack shot and felled the bear in two shots! This time the polar bear was a huge threat but we managed to fell it before it ate anyone just about!
Once that was out of the way... we found more huts, a icebound ship and an airfield (well helicopter). Aware of our mission we pressed on....
A pack of wolves was prowling abut we decided to leave them... but that affects your overnight sanity checks...
Bit of an oddity in that we had two lots of bad weather and a lot of good weather, we decided that actually it represented the weather over the day so you can get cold adn wet, then slightly less cold and wet then cold and wet again.
A vantage point loomed and Moss climbed up to have a look revealing the surrounding terrain - a Sno-Cat and another hut! We cautiously approached the sno-cat looking to get a ride... but there was a sentry on guard and we moved on.
Our last move of the evening saw us walk into a heavy patrol 4 soldiers armed to the teeth. Having run out of ammo we had to move in to assault.
Again the balance was off and we adjusted the stats. We ran out of time at this point.
Despite being the author... I was pleasantly surprised it seemed to hand together quite well. There was plenty going on and lots to keep you busy. The balance was somewhat off and a few its need adjusting but on the whole it seems to work.
Major changes:
Enemy balance - the polar bear was too tough and the heavy squad was too well armed for a party to deal with.
Gun run out of ammo too easily, I've removed ammo limits from rifles and pistols, only automatics now have ammo limits.
Critical hits added to speed up the contacts.
Loads of minor tweaks but generally the basics work well.
Observations - using playing cards is hard as you have to keep trying to remember what each card is but some stickers will sort that in the short term.
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More pics
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I’ve been thinking about what else could work. I previously mentioned the film “Whiteout” from 2009. The plot featured a downed Soviet era plane (an AN - ro I believe) buried in the ice for 50 years. I think it was carrying radioactive ore. Of course it would be possible to buy and cut up a 1/56 scale model, but it would be quite big. Would it be possible to do a bit of wing with engine, sticking out of the ground? Maybe a bit of upper cockpit canopy and tail? Just a thought.
The other thing I thought of was another AM novel, “Bear Island”. I can’t remember much of the book, but the film ( which wasn’t that great in my opinion) has quite a bit of action involving small Aerosans. The film involved a buried Nazi Uniat pen on Spitsbergen, and information still on the sub. In a game that could be ex Nazi collaborators. The Soviets would want to get their hands on that information, and others to bury it...
The third Harry Palmer film “ Billion Dollar Brain” also had some Arctic action, but I can’t think of anything specific that could be used, except Palmer in snow gear.
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Thanks! All good stuff!
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I hope you find something useful out of that. Strangely enough, I just noticed that “Bear Island” is on in the UK this week ( Wednesday C4 or Film 4 I think)
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Love this and has inspired me to do something similar. Time to use those copplestone castings I had ages ago. 8)
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I've been working on some Arctic Terra-Former terrain over the last couple of days and also this design for Arctic Base building which will be included in the Kick starter. I'm planning to do some variation of steps, doors and windows as well.
We are still on schedule for a June Kick Starter.
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Well chaps if you want to blow things up in the snow with Royal, as opposed to US, Marines, there’s always Thule. The Task force did prepare to take it by force but sensibly the Argentine garrison surrendered without a shot being fired. Makes for a good what if though.
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That looks great Chris, looking forward to the kickstarter
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Our party was rolled up....Sean Connery and Roy and Moss from the IT crowd.
That’s what I need! With Soviet Paratroopers, naturally.
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Seems there is quite a selection for anyone wanting to do an arctic-antarctic themed game. The OOP stuff from Sgt Majors 28mm Pulp range also had Inuits and Cossak types, with various armaments, some mounted on Yak and Bear type animals, that would fit perfectly with these figs. Hope it catches on, can envision some very cool game layouts.
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Last week, we received the first test casts fn our 'Ski-doo' kit. This will be part of Sally 4th's third Classic Movies Kickstarter:Whiteout...Miniatures and models inspired by movies set in cold places.
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As well as miniatures, vehicles and buildings the campaign features 'Whiteout' a solo / co-operative miniatures game by Richard Humble. Kickstarter is scheduled for late June / early July.
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That doesn't look frightening at all... :o
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lol
It certainly is . (its the prop for the Gyrocopter.) A Heath Robinson version Chris?
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Ooops. feels very embarrassed now.
I'm sure I'd seen a picture of one with a propeller somewhere.
I'd best have another go at assembling one tonight, and send a note to Jon in case he does the same!
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It's a fun look . Don't worry about it.There are prop driven vehicles they just tend to be more on the line of pushers once you get nearer to WW2.
Here's a book I couldn't for the life of me remember who illustrated it so I've just bought a copy. It's probably worth while Rich and you getting hold of one as there's plenty of inspiration in the illustrations alone .( if you've not already got it ;) )
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Thanks, I will look that one out.
In the mean time, here is the correct photo for the Ski-Doo.
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.... and a couple of images of that troublesome propeller correctly installed on the Auto-gyro!
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Interesting looking book - ordered thanks!
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To be honest Rich I've bought it for the illustrations. As there's some lovely pulp ideas that'll bounce into clay quite easily.
Chris you need to check your casting there's something seriously amiss with the rocket pods.
( they've either been mis aligned during casting or have failed under the pressure of moulding.)
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"I only read it for the pictures!"
That's certainly an interesting inversion of the old classic. lol
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I was wondering who'd pick up on it. The best thing about that inversion is if you use it in the context of the original. Nobody enquiries any further. lol
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I must get a copy of the book now, as I am intrigued!
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Rich ,
Definitely not a Walrus .
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:o
Started on Beyond the timberline - fantastic imagination and great book so far.
Interesting idea on the 'track' need to read the rest of it now...
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I must admit it's an interesting vehicle Sorely tempted to build one.That said you can tell it's designed by someone who works in 2D.Its a bit of a tardis lol
I've popped a 'Thing' thread on Future Wars so you can get a better idea of the size relative to 28mm.
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Pulpy goodness in the coldest of places....
Launch - 5
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I absolutely can not wait for this Kickstarter :o
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You've only got to hang on until Saturday now!
The Kickstarter also includes Richard's Solo / Coop Pulp Arctic game Whiteout.
Backers will get access to download PDF copy of playtest version to participate in playtest and in December A4 perfect bound illustrated book and cards will be available.
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Really neat stuff, Chris.
Look forward to the Kickstarter.
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I guess I should have also mentioned that the Kickstarter will open it's doors at 10:00 GMT on Saturday 29th June and runs for just over two weeks until Monday 15th July.
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Today we've been working on the card decks for 'Whiteout' the solo / coop play game of Polar exploration by Richard Humble, launching on Kickstarter on Saturday (29th June).
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A PDF playtest version of the full rules and the three card decks will be available to all backers to enable immediate play and feedback with printed versions developed through the campaign.
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They look ace!
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I have also set up a Facebook Group specifically for playtest feedback, chat about the rules, distributing updates of rules and components. If Whiteout is of interest, please join the group and start spreading the word!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/312595339694953/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/312595339694953/)
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Hi Chris
Have joined the Facebook Group (I think!). I will be backing the Kickstarter. I have never play tested anything in my life but would very much like to give this a go from the Solo perspective. Cheers, Joe
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It's designed for solo or co-op works just as well.
The idea is it'll start easily enough but you'll soon find that supplies are hard to come by and the fights get hard as your characters get exhausted... But do you dare risk making camp to rest using up more of your scant resources?
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Chris,
For those that don't do Facebook,
can you set it up so it can be read?
I have seen other groups where that is possible.
Thanks.
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That sounds like a good idea.
I think I have updated settings so anyone can find it.
Can someone who does not have a Facebook account have a look and confirm please?
Thanks,
Chris
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It's designed for solo or co-op works just as well.
The idea is it'll start easily enough but you'll soon find that supplies are hard to come by and the fights get hard as your characters get exhausted... But do you dare risk making camp to rest using up more of your scant resources?
It looks like it might be a bit reminiscent of Ospreys “Lost Expedition” game. Looking good. I hope there is some “latitude” in the KS, because I don’t need everything...
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Concept of an expedition is similar, but Whiteout is a Solo/Co-Op miniatures game.
Our Kick starters are always very flexible so as well as pledges for different groups of products we have a £1 pledge where you can just add whatever add-ons you might like from the campaign.
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will check out your kickstart with interest :D. What will you be offering besides the rules and cards?
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What we have so far for definite in the project is:
• Ski-doo kit (metal & resin kit)
• Gyrocopter (metal & resin kit)
• Medium SnowCat & Trailer (MDF & Card Kit)
• Large SnowCat (Resin Kit)
• Arctic Science researchers (4 fig pack)
• Skiers (4 fig pack)
• Arctic soldiers (4 fig pack)
• Sub Conning tower breaking through ice (MDF, Card, 3-Decals and resin)
• Arctic research station (MDF & card)
• Jamesway Hut – Accommodation (MDF & card)
• Tramp steamer kit for Ice Bound Ship
• Printed Whiteout Rulebook
• Printed Whiteout cards
Marks just started on the first couple of stretch goals, as I'm pretty certain this is going to be popular.
This is the full list of stretch goals, how many we get done will be dependent on how much interest there is in the project.
• Ice Station Zebra Character Pack
• Soviet Paratroopers in Arctic Kit
• Character pack based on ‘The Thing’ (1950's and 1980's versions)
• Dog Sledge Pack
• Man pulled sledge pack
• Arctic wildlife pack
• Crashed Satellite / Camera Objective Marker (resin)
• Expedition dome tent (resin)
• 28mm DB5 kit - maybe not for use on the ice put it fitted with the spy-fi theme!
Plus terrain boards and opportunity to pick up previous classic movie miniatures, sets, props and locations at a discount.
Lots more ideas for stretch goals depending on level of support that we get.
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Dammit - I don't currently need any of these, but I think I might want them.
I love the original version of "The Thing", so parts of this might just be irresistible. >:(
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Concept of an expedition is similar, but Whiteout is a Solo/Co-Op miniatures game.
Our Kick starters are always very flexible so as well as pledges for different groups of products we have a £1 pledge where you can just add whatever add-ons you might like from the campaign.
That’s great. Of course, I would like to buy everything, but sadly that probably isn’t a realistic possibility, and the game looks interesting. (I hope noting the similarity to “Lost Expedition” did not appear negative) Love the concepts for the stretch goal figures. This is a great KS in my opinion.
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Not at all, Ann & I have played 'Lost Expeditions' a lot. It's a favorite when we are away in camper van. We normally die horribly, it's not an easy game to win.
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This has just gone live this morning on Kick-Starter.
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/179272384/616441270 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/179272384/616441270)
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I'm in :D
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Yep - backed
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Chris asked me to add a sneaky peak photo of one of the Soviet para figures. Whilst the Mrs is getting ready (off out for lunch and to see a farrier.)I thought I'd add the pic.
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Thanks Mark, awesome as always!
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Chris asked me to add a sneaky peak photo of one of the Soviet para figures. Whilst the Mrs is getting ready (off out for lunch and to see a farrier.)I thought I'd add the pic.
Col. Ostrovski. Perfect.
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I should have mentioned yesterday that we unlocked another stretch goal.
Explorers hauling sledges.
This is a pack of different explorers hauling two single man sledges, sculpted by Mark.
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We've now just got a week to go on the Whiteout Kickstarter.
Looks like I failed to mention last week a couple of the stretch goals that got unlocked in the first couple of days.
We had.. Officers & Spies
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and a crashed re-entry module.
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If there is anything that you would like for polar or glacier based gaming that we've not got covered, shout up and we'll see what we can do to add it as a stretch goal.
Link for campaign is : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/179272384/classic-movie-miniatures-episode-3-white-out (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/179272384/classic-movie-miniatures-episode-3-white-out)
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Whiteout - Satellite Recovery mission
On Friday night Doug, John and I got together for first playtest game of Richard Humbles 'Whiteout' Arctic survival rules.
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As this was the first game we had played, we decided to use the standard character types provided with the rules
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The game makes use of three decks of cards for maximum replay value of the scenarios. These are the terrain, encounter and equipment decks. At the start of the game the explorers start on a single tile (either 10" or 12" square), when they cross the tile edge onto a new one the top card from the terrain deck is flipped and that type of terrain is laid out. The explorer is moved 1" onto the tile and the top card from the encounter deck is flipped
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Full game report with loads of photos on my hobby blog@
http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/Hobby-Blog/Whiteout-Satellite-Recovery-mission (http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/Hobby-Blog/Whiteout-Satellite-Recovery-mission)
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Just a quick reminder that there in now less than 12 hours until the end of Classic Movie Miniatures Episode 3:Whiteout Kickstarter campaign. A stack of new models have been added to the campaign including a DB5, miniatures inspired by the 1950's and 1980's versions of 'The Thing', Soviet Paras in Arctic Kit and loads more pulpy / spy-fi miniatures, vehicles and terrain.
If you want to take a look before the campaign ends, this is the link: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/179272384/classic-movie-miniatures-episode-3-white-out (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/179272384/classic-movie-miniatures-episode-3-white-out)
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Great looking terrain!
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Will be a new version of the rules (Hopefully!) by the end of the week.
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Today in fat. V0.5 sent to Chris this morning.
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Thanks Richard,
The download Beta-Test rules pack has now been updated with the new version and can be downloaded from
http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/Whiteout-Playtest (http://wargamesbuildings.co.uk/Whiteout-Playtest)