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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Admiral Benbow on April 26, 2019, 12:51:13 PM
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When the new Perry Agincourt mounted knights arrived at my stores I immediately wanted to build something from it, as is our nature ... But with so many ongoing projects around, I couldn't start another large one. Looking around at the net what could be done as a small "side project", I found the dynamic but rather stylish monument for Jeanne d'Arc at the french town Chinon:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/38/93-260419124208.jpeg)
So the idea was born to use the new Perry parts to convert my version of Jeann d'Arc presented here:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/38/93-260419123400-38758976.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/38/93-260419123359-38755882.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/38/93-260419123359-387562011.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/38/93-260419123400-387571972.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/38/93-260419123400-38759285.jpeg)
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That is a very dynamic pose! As far as I can tell, the horse is fully supported by just two contact points on the left front leg - might be tough to do the same with a heavier metal model!
As for the components, is that head from some kit or did you convert it somehow?
Also very nice paintjob, though personally I would have probably done the armour with a bit more shading to make the individual armour plates stand out better.
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Wonderful conversion!
Dynamic is the word and beautifully executed ( no pun intended!).
Cani always where Joan’s banner is from please?
All the best
Simon
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Wunderbar Herr Immig!
I think the head is from Statuesque? She has the same look as my Brienne of Tarth :)
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Superb, a really striking conversion, full of movement and very dynamic. The paint job is first class too. ;D
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Amazing :-*
Well done
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Lovely conversion and modelling I am sure everyone looks at it and finds something they might have done slightly differently, but they haven't have they? Armchair Quarterbacks is the American term I believe. Love it, and it's hard to believe it's 28mm and not a much larger figure.
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Also very nice paintjob, though personally I would have probably done the armour with a bit more shading to make the individual armour plates stand out better.
I would like to add that this comment was based on the first picture, which is the one that I paid most attention to. Now I took a closer look at how the armour looks like at other pictures, and on them there seems to be more shading on the armour - and I would say that the last picture is actually very close to how I would like armour to look on my models.
So I presume there is something with the angle of lighting and photography that makes the armour shading appear different on the different pictures?
(Actually, from the realism point of view one could argue that 15th century plate armour should not really have much shading between the armour plate, since these do not really stand out in nature - but I personally like the slightly exaggerated shading style that makes these sort of details to stand out on 28 mm figures.)
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Stunning work :-* :-* :-*
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The Maid of Orleans of yours turns out to be an entire diorama in its own right instead of being just a gaming piece. Wonderful execution and surely an eyecatcher wherever you´ll deploy her!
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Very animated; has one looking for a few Gallic saints flying overhead.
Won't modelers take a few minutes to look at a few horses' eyes and note the way that you almost never see any white?
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Won't modelers take a few minutes to look at a few horses' eyes and note the way that you almost never see any white?
1. Actually, you can’t see the whites of the horse’s eyes on this beautifully painted model. What you can see is the gleam on the horse’s eyeballs.
2. That is such a tedious and oft-repeated fallacy here on LAF that I have a rebuttal picture on standby, for every time someone trots out that same sad, tired old myth. Here goes...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/577_25_05_17_10_41_26.jpg)
Stressed, frightened or angry horses (in the middle of a battle, let’s say) roll their eyes and you see the whites A LOT.
Commenters could take a few minutes to examine the evidence before regurgitating shibboleths of such flaky provenance ;)
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That is a stunning model, beautifully done. Hoping you do drift into a large project on this one Admiral.
I do like the phrase ‘regurgitating shibboleths’ and shall try to use it in everyday conversation this weekend :)
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I do like the phrase ‘regurgitating shibboleths’ and shall try to use it in everyday conversation this weekend :)
It’s a lot of syllables, but I think it lands the point ;)
lol
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Absolutely cracking conversion, and paint job
shibboleths
8)
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That is a delightful conversion and paintjob, Admiral. 8) :-*
1. Actually, you can’t see the whites of the horse’s eyes on this beautifully painted model. What you can see is the gleam on the horse’s eyeballs.
2. That is such a tedious and oft-repeated fallacy here on LAF that I have a rebuttal picture on standby, for every time someone trots out that same sad, tired old myth. Here goes...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/577_25_05_17_10_41_26.jpg)
Stressed, frightened or angry horses (in the middle of a battle, let’s say) roll their eyes and you see the whites A LOT.
Commenters could take a few minutes to examine the evidence before regurgitating shibboleths of such flaky provenance ;)
That is delightful wordage, Captain lol lol
And yes, clearly it’s a glint of light off the eyeball, which I quite like on wargame models as it adds to the sense of movement.
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Splendid work Michael :-*
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And yes, clearly it’s a glint of light off the eyeball, which I quite like on wargame models as it adds to the sense of movement.
And just to add, Admiral Benbow is in good company by doing so. Some (indeed many) would argue that George Stubbs is the best painter of horses and here’s his Whistlejacket:
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And yes, clearly it’s a glint of light off the eyeball, which I quite like on wargame models as it adds to the sense of movement.
This most definitely, it adds movement, realism and dynamics. :)
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It’s a lot of syllables, but I think it lands the point ;)
lol
Technically I think it should be a fallacy, not a shibboleth, but quibbling butters no parsnips 8)
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Technically I think it should be a fallacy, not a shibboleth, but quibbling butters no parsnips 8)
lol
Damn you sir, for an (entirely correct) pedant! :D
Although wait... Dictionary.com does have shibboleth as 'a common saying or belief with little current meaning or truth' - which I think fits the bill?
However, now back to the Admiral's lovely creation. (I swear off further derailing :))
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Gents, thank you all for your kind words. Next time I will choose smaller pics, these are a bit too large. I'll try to answer some of your questions.
That is a very dynamic pose! As far as I can tell, the horse is fully supported by just two contact points on the left front leg - might be tough to do the same with a heavier metal model!
As for the components, is that head from some kit or did you convert it somehow?
Also very nice paintjob, though personally I would have probably done the armour with a bit more shading to make the individual armour plates stand out better.
Indeed it's only one contact point. After all conversion work done on the horse, I cut it free from it's base and attached a pice of copper wire into one of the front legs back. The aother end was epoxied into one of the stakes I carved from sprue. Which was then firmly fixed to the base groundwork. That's one of the benefits of lightweight plastic figures, doing that with metal ones would be a challenge indeed.
The head is one of the standard Perry horse heads but I converted it's position and the neck. See the following pics showing the conversions:
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/38/93-270419114631-38772223.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/38/93-270419114631-387741407.jpeg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/38/93-270419114631-387751693.jpeg)
Wonderful conversion!
Dynamic is the word and beautifully executed ( no pun intended!).
Cani always where Joan’s banner is from please?
All the best
Simon
Thanks, Simon! The banner can be found easily when you search for pictures "Jeanne d'Arc banner" on Google. Interestingly it's a mystery till today about her banners, if she had one, and if so, which one. I would recommend this site about that: https://www.jeanne-darc.info/biography/banner/ (https://www.jeanne-darc.info/biography/banner/)
Wunderbar Herr Immig!
I think the head is from Statuesque? She has the same look as my Brienne of Tarth :)
Absolutely, Richard! Brilliantly sculpted heads ...
And thanks very much for your wonderful comment on horses eyes and their appearance on tiny miniatures. There is nothing to add.
:)
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Thanks for adding the work-in-progress pictures. That horse looks even more gravity-defying than in the final version!
I am also surprised to hear that those stakes started their life as simple plastic sprue.
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1. Actually, you can’t see the whites of the horse’s eyes on this beautifully painted model. What you can see is the gleam on the horse’s eyeballs.
2. That is such a tedious and oft-repeated fallacy here on LAF that I have a rebuttal picture on standby, for every time someone trots out that same sad, tired old myth. Here goes...
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/28/577_25_05_17_10_41_26.jpg)
Stressed, frightened or angry horses (in the middle of a battle, let’s say) roll their eyes and you see the whites A LOT.
Commenters could take a few minutes to examine the evidence before regurgitating shibboleths of such flaky provenance ;)
It seems like a lot of horses roll their eyes as you stop to take a photo, Richard. Perhaps that says more about you than about the horses. ;)
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Hahaha! I never went near those poor horses, Peder. All images courtesy of Google :)
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Gorgeous work Michael :-*
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On the issue of horses eyes... generally you don't see much white, but when frightened or to trying to look at something that is to their flank/rear then you will see quite a bit more which is what you see in Captain Blood's picture collection, with the exception of the paint horse (left hand frame, middle row) which is relaxed and interested in something to his/her front (probably his/her horse mommy coming out of the feed room with a treat ::) lol).
The eyeball on the painted mini looks perfectly natural to me.
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The figure and the paint job is magnificent. The photos of the horses seem to prove the point well too.
Fun thread!
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That’s some very impressive conversion work and painting.
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Fantastic conversion, so much fluidity in the piece.
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It seems like a lot of horses roll their eyes as you stop to take a photo, Richard. Perhaps that says more about you than about the horses. ;)
lol lol lol
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Lovely conversion and painting. :-* :-* :-*
Keep it coming. :)
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Thanks, Simon! The banner can be found easily when you search for pictures "Jeanne d'Arc banner" on Google. Interestingly it's a mystery till today about her banners, if she had one, and if so, which one. I would recommend this site about that: https://www.jeanne-darc.info/biography/banner/ (https://www.jeanne-darc.info/biography/banner/)
beautiful work on this miniatures, really stunting work !
For the banners, I use the site you link to made some here : https://aleaminiatures.blogspot.com/2017/12/peindre-des-chevaliers-7-jeanne-darc.html (https://aleaminiatures.blogspot.com/2017/12/peindre-des-chevaliers-7-jeanne-darc.html)