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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: FreakyFenton on May 25, 2019, 01:12:33 PM

Title: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on May 25, 2019, 01:12:33 PM
Hey there LAF! I figured I'd document my work on some french paratroopers or alternatively Foreign Legion in Indochina.
 
My guides were the "Men at Arms: The French Indochina War 1946-54", "North Vietnam 1948-52 French Foreign Légionnaire versus Viet Minh Insurgent" both by Martin Windrow and "Ground War Vietnam Vol.1 1945 to 1965" by Jim Mesko.

The figures are Empress, I do however plan to bolster their ranks with some converted paratroopers from Warlord games. Do enjoy, at the moment they're not based and in the midst of painting, feedback is appreciated!
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on May 25, 2019, 01:47:16 PM
Welcome to Vietnam, though about ten years earlier than most (but not all) of us.

Nice work.

So how are you going to base them?

So which paratroopers are you going to use (I have not read  the books you reference, but from my reading the French had a rather mix and match kit)?
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on May 25, 2019, 03:20:26 PM
Hey Ultravanillasmurf! And thanks!

I bought varying plastic plants (bamboo, shrubs and such) and will also use some flock and old brush bristles to emulate high grass and such. Ground will either be red or khaki/sand-ish brown. So they might tie in with some later GIs from Empress I also have knocking about, for thematic purposes.

They will probably end up as the  1st Foreign Parachute Battalion but will most likely stand in for other units as I painted them in lizard camo in large parts and only now and then turned to olive or the british korea pattern smocks. http://camopedia.org/index.php?title=France . Some reference, in case there's interest.

Unless your question was aimed at the hinted at conversion, I will probably use Warlord Games Plastic Us Airborne and equip them with a mix of weapons from british and american kits as well as varying pouches to emulate earlier troops, whilst also doing some headswaps. The second book by Martin Windrow I mentioned focusses on that in detail, and I can recommend it. That is the Foreign Legionaire versus Viet Minh book.



Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: commissarmoody on May 26, 2019, 05:01:07 AM
Off to a great start. Might I suggest the book, "the French foreign legion in Indochina, 1946-1956" by Guyander. Good photos of FFL, and their equipment.
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on May 26, 2019, 12:48:31 PM
Off to a great start. Might I suggest the book, "the French foreign legion in Indochina, 1946-1956" by Guyander. Good photos of FFL, and their equipment.

Thanks! I will check it out!
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: Splod on May 26, 2019, 11:49:15 PM
You're off to a great start!

I love the Mignola avatar too ;)
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on May 27, 2019, 09:32:07 PM
You're off to a great start!

I love the Mignola avatar too ;)

Thanks! Yeah, Simon Anders is great. Might have to start a build/conversion project on the Hellboy comics.
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: Splod on May 28, 2019, 01:23:49 AM
Thanks! Yeah, Simon Anders is great. Might have to start a build/conversion project on the Hellboy comics.

I've been eying off the new Mantic Boardgame and find myself wondering if it would be possible to paint a figure in a similar manner to Mignola's work...
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on June 13, 2019, 06:06:48 PM
The first batch is ready! Constructive Criticism is welcome as is feedback! The rest still needs basing done.  lol
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on June 13, 2019, 06:10:13 PM
And one more!
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: Ash on June 13, 2019, 06:27:52 PM
Now you've got me tempted to do some 'Devil's Guard' type of unit...
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on June 13, 2019, 06:38:26 PM
Can understand that, a documentary got me interested in the topic. And a few issues of history magazines. Sadly I haven't found any proper decals to pin onto them, so they'll be without any rank or emblem yet.

Glad to hear it though! And looking forward to pictures of painted figures, Ash!  ;) lol

Cheers,

Fenton
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: commissarmoody on June 14, 2019, 03:40:15 AM
Only Criticism I have is it looks like you are using a gloss varnish, were as I preferer a Matt. So you don't get that shine affect on the mins.
But that's a personal annoyance of mine, I mean my mins have been primered for a year now with out being painted.  lol
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: Ash on June 14, 2019, 09:00:49 AM
Must say I do prefer a matt finish as well. My current varnish of choice is the AK Ultra Matt, 'does what it says on the tin' (or dropper bottle...)


...also just ordered a pack of five blokes + the Bigeard cap heads. Going to mix them in with my Congo mercenary types.
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on June 14, 2019, 03:00:38 PM
Only Criticism I have is it looks like you are using a gloss varnish, were as I preferer a Matt. So you don't get that shine affect on the mins.
But that's a personal annoyance of mine, I mean my mins have been primered for a year now with out being painted.  lol

Oh, to be fair, I used both. The matt just wasn't cured. Winsor and Newton Matt UV Varnish and before that Winsor and Newton Gloss Varnish.
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on June 14, 2019, 03:02:33 PM
Must say I do prefer a matt finish as well. My current varnish of choice is the AK Ultra Matt, 'does what it says on the tin' (or dropper bottle...)


...also just ordered a pack of five blokes + the Bigeard cap heads. Going to mix them in with my Congo mercenary types.

Delighted to hear I motivated that with my paintjob! Also the above on my method on varnishing. And the Bigeard cap heads are lovely, a few painted examples of those will follow soon!  :D
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: commissarmoody on June 16, 2019, 09:15:10 AM
Oh, to be fair, I used both. The matt just wasn't cured. Winsor and Newton Matt UV Varnish and before that Winsor and Newton Gloss Varnish.
I see, so got a little excited to share! Happens to us all some times.  lol
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on June 16, 2019, 12:33:47 PM
I see, so got a little excited to share! Happens to us all some times.  lol

  ;D Yeah, but it paid off I'd say.  lol
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on June 26, 2019, 04:48:31 PM
And the last of the lot of 25 finished!   ;D
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on June 26, 2019, 04:54:07 PM
And the rest of them!  ;) And finally room for a new project!  lol

Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: Ash on June 26, 2019, 07:09:40 PM
This might be of interest:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-Command-DVD-Anthony-Quinn/dp/B000065UHS/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+lost+command+dvd&qid=1561571823&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Antony Quinn; 'Lost Command'
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on June 26, 2019, 07:27:41 PM
Haha! I have that movie, although inn the german title "Sie fürchten weder Tod noch Teufel" which roughly translates to "They fear neither death nor the devil".
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: commissarmoody on June 26, 2019, 08:29:25 PM
They look great! Guess it's time to start painting up some Viet-minh or Algerian rebels.  lol
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on June 27, 2019, 12:14:42 AM
Thank you!
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on July 11, 2019, 03:44:33 PM
Hrm, I'm thinking of merging my cold war/modern threads. Might be less spammy.
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on July 12, 2019, 12:12:18 PM
Great work. Do some Vietminh  ;)
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on July 12, 2019, 12:26:12 PM
Great work. Do some Vietminh  ;)

Thank you!  :o

I might have to, been asked twice now.  lol
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: Westbury on July 20, 2019, 04:22:46 PM
Read Windrow's 'The Last Valley' gives a real insight into the combat operations of both sides and the performance of the mish mash of nationalities that made up the French forces. Also makes the important point about the numbers of Vietnamese serving in French units even the Legion, "more Vietnamese than Frenchmen would be killed wearing French uniform" referring to Dien Bin Phu.
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: AKULA on July 20, 2019, 05:01:12 PM
Great job, love the bases as well

 :)
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on July 21, 2019, 01:18:55 AM
@ Westbury : Thank you! I will do so, first I'll have to see if I can find it on amazon though, but should be easy!  ;)

@ AKULA : Thank you, Akula! Hearing that from you makes me especially happy.  :D
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on July 24, 2019, 08:00:08 AM
Looking good.  8)

Yes you should have some Vietnamese troops for your French army. Huge percentage in the ranks.
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on July 25, 2019, 02:37:34 PM
 lol Might have to see if my lead defense budget allows.
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: commissarmoody on July 27, 2019, 11:52:46 AM
That pesky defense budget always gets the way. If only the ministries of housing, water, and power could be persuaded to accept a lower budget.  lol
Title: Re: FreakyFenton does Indochina
Post by: FreakyFenton on July 27, 2019, 06:57:32 PM
That pesky defense budget always gets the way. If only the ministries of housing, water, and power could be persuaded to accept a lower budget.  lol


 lol lol lol