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Title: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 02, 2019, 10:12:14 PM
I'm about to start a new ACW project. I'm planning to do part of First Bull Run July 1861. I'm just going to focus on Jackson's defense of Henry Hill.

Some of you will already have followed my previous ACW project on LAF:
https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=111577.0 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=111577.0)

That was based on Bloody Lane, Antietam. The problem with it now is, playing with the rules I've got, I've more figures than I can use in an evening. I'll get some longer games in soon, but for now it feels like I'm painting figures that won't get used.

With my enthusiasm still high, I thought I'd go onto a different project, and keep it small.

I fancied doing First Bull Run for a number of reasons.
1) It's colourful. The uniforms on both sides are still based on the earlier militia uniforms, and the majority have disappeared by '62
2) Music. While painting the Antietam collection, I've had ACW songs on in the background, and number of the Irish lyrics sing of Bull Run.
3) The artwork of Don Troiani. He has done some inspirational pieces for 1st Bull Run.
4) Gods and Generals. Not a brilliant film, but they captured the colour and crazy mix of uniforms of Summer '61 well. There's even some guys in Tricorns in shot.

My previous project was all Crusader Miniatures ACW. This one I'm going to use Perry Miniatures metals, as they capture the look of the Don Troiani paintings very well.

I've prepared the first regiment, but not started painting yet. I worked out a way of painting the figures quite quickly to a standard I was happy with, but that was on Crusader Miniatures, I've yet to try it on Perry Miniatures. I detailed my painting technique online here:
http://nstarmagazine.com/PAINTING_COBB_S_LEGION.htm (http://nstarmagazine.com/PAINTING_COBB_S_LEGION.htm)

I'm going to start with Jackson's Brigade, the five regiments 2nd, 4th, 5th, 27th and 33rd Virginia. The intention is, like in my previous project, to do both sides.

I've started this thread before having anything to show as I'd be very happy to hear advice from those of you who've done this project before me, in regards to uniforms, colours and flags.

Cheers Nick

(PS If you followed my previous project, you'll recall I went to some lengths to represent each Colonel of each regiment in miniature. That's a piece of madness I'm not going to continue.)
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 02, 2019, 10:19:10 PM
33rd Virginia

The first figures I've got cleaned and under coated are the 33rd Virginia. I've used these Perry packs:
(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/ACW%2088.jpg)
(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/acw/acw%2031.jpg)
(https://www.perry-miniatures.com/images/acw/acw%2036.jpg)

I chose these figures because this regiment, dressed in Dark Blue coats, were mistaken by a Union Battery as Union troops and got captured by them. My plan is to paint them in dark blue sackcoats, a mix of hat colours. In the film Gods and Generals they have dark blue trousers as well, I still need to do some research there before deciding.

I'm sticking to the regimental formula from my previous project, 16 figure regiments, 4 figures on 4 60mm by 30mm bases.

Flags. I intend to give them two flags, one the Stars and Bars with 11 stars, and a green Irish flag (carried by Company E, Emerald Guard, for some extra colour). Flags of War do both, I've got them on order on the way.

Here's a question for those who know a bit more than me. The Army of Northern Virginia in '62 ordered all flags but the Battle Flag (classic Reb flag) in each regiment to be put aside, and just that one carried. We know that order wasn't universally carried out, some still carried two or more. But back in July 1861, did the Confederates habitually carry two flags into battle? I'd presume the Stars and bars and the State Flag? Or did they have even more, all the company flags flying (I'm not doing that by the way). Or, was it the habit from early on to have one, the National Flag?
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: has.been on June 03, 2019, 12:16:10 PM
You want to do Jackson on Henry hill (Bull Run). Do you have a Bee in your bonnet?
Sorry to Stonewall you there.
I did have the joy of visiting Bull Run, along with a lot of other ACW sites, some years ago.
I like the way the Americans preserve their battlefields. If something interesting happened
they plonk down some cannons to draw your attention. One such turned out to be a Union
battery who were shot to s**t by a grey coated unit they had been told were their support.
Love the early war uniforms, & associated mix-ups.

I look forward to more posts of your work.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 03, 2019, 11:10:40 PM
Had a go at one figure this evening with my quick paint method, and I'm happy enough with the result.

This was going to be one of the 33rd Virginia, but I'm thinking of doing them in all blue like this picture instead:
(https://www.fsegames.eu/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.moddb.com%2Fimages%2Fmods%2F1%2F22%2F21131%2F33rd_Render_-_final.jpg&hash=f5f99640cd16a1ff2dd7089bb665206a)
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: FifteensAway on June 04, 2019, 01:48:51 AM
Oy!  Hope it is just the lighting.  The hat?  Lovely.  The pants?  Excellent.  The coat?  Oh, that blue is so wrong to my eye.  Looks like blue-purple.  Maybe a work in progress shot and not done.  Too 'bright' if you get what I mean.  A little dry brushing or maybe a light wash will get it right - or righter, or right enough.   ;)

The way we play ACW here about is if you have units, they get to play.  Doesn't matter if they are 'correct' for the battle.  That leads to madness - a unit only works for a particular battle once - it will be a little different tomorrow, and a little more the day after, etc.  Cut yourself some slack and let the units play on.  They deserve it.  You deserve it.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Leman on June 04, 2019, 11:00:39 AM
Union blue can be a tricky one. Colourfast dyes didn’t really work in those days, neither did each clothing factory use exactly the same shade. I’ve seen Union blue with a hint of purple in it, some with a geysish dulling tinge, some that is so dark it is a real midnight blue etc. Consequently there’s no need to worry about the shade in the above photo. After all this is the start of the war and uniforms are likely to still be bright.

 When I looked at the photo my first thought was - I don’t remember a militia unit that wore the schapka,  but then realised it was the top of the head of a figure behind it.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 04, 2019, 03:19:54 PM
Yes, I wasn't too sure on the Blue. I think I picked up the wrong dark blue from the last time I did some Union. But I wasn't too bothered, as Leman said, I can't imagine they were a hard and fast shade.

I might put this boy in a different unit, and do the 33rd V. like the picture in Darker Blue with white cross straps.

FifteensAway. Did you read my other thread? Am I involved in a form of madness? Yes indeed.  lol

Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: LV426 on June 04, 2019, 09:26:56 PM
I really like the blue. I think colour variation makes for better looking units  ;)
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: FifteensAway on June 05, 2019, 02:14:35 AM
Not a re-enactor but been to many reenactments and never saw that color of blue - unless part of a lady's garment (or maybe an officer's sash?)!  ;)  But it did look better on my iPhone, a bit.  Even new, excepting for sky blue overcoats, all the Union (and even the Confederate) blue coats were a much duller blue.  Does it matter in the end?  Not so much.  But Nick seems quite a stickler for authenticity in many ways so he seems willing to accept constructive criticism.  Nothing wrong with praise but it is more meaningful when tinged with a bit of push for better from time to time - at least that's my way of looking at it.  Otherwise it seems obsequious.  Okay, now you can hurl your taunts of pedantic-ness at me; it's okay, I can take it.   :D
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Leman on June 05, 2019, 09:57:34 AM
Very appropriate avatar.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nikephorous on June 08, 2019, 04:21:47 AM

The problem with it now is, playing with the rules I've got, I've more figures than I can use in an evening.


Oh you poor man. :-) Most of us have exactly the opposite problem. ;-)
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 08, 2019, 01:35:14 PM
Nikephorous. I know  lol

Actually if I was playing Black Powder with full size units, the armies aren't 'massive' and we'd be done quicker. It's because I'm working through this adaption of Death In the Dark Continent with units of 16 figures that I'm not finishing games in evening at our club.

Either way, it's put me off adding to project (a), and so onto project (b)!
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 08, 2019, 01:45:19 PM
I've painted another 4 members of the 33rd Virginia with Army Painter Dark Sky, much better. That's the look I want for the regiment. I won't repaint kepi wearing #1 figure, he'll fit in fine.
On with the rest of regiment now.

I decided to go with two flags for the 33rd Virginia. They'll have the 11 Star Confederate National flag, and Company E's green Irish flag.

I need to contact Perry Miniatures again. I want to have the commanding officer in a Union style coat. In this early stage of the war, it seems a lot of officers wore their old US Regulars uniform rather than the Confederate uniform, so that would fit better with the 33rd also wearing Dark Blue sack coats.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: FifteensAway on June 08, 2019, 03:41:05 PM
The new blue is much better.  And the good news about the first blue?  The rest of the guys in his company will be 'happy' - he is the best 'target' in the unit so he'll probably be the first to fall!   :o lol
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Leman on June 09, 2019, 01:42:00 PM
Oh dear!  lol
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 09, 2019, 09:56:55 PM
I've been reading a lot today about the Stonewall Brigade at 1st Bull Run. I've just come across a document that states Jackson's Brigade, the 1st Virginia, carried ONE flag in the battle. And that was the flag of Virginia. ONE flag! :-[
That ain't gonna happen. My debate was whether the Brigade had 5 or 10 flags, not one!  lol

Anyway, Don Troiani has painted a flag with every regiment in his Bull Run pictures, and I love him.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Siaba on June 09, 2019, 10:27:24 PM
Here's a question for those who know a bit more than me. The Army of Northern Virginia in '62 ordered all flags but the Battle Flag (classic Reb flag) in each regiment to be put aside, and just that one carried. We know that order wasn't universally carried out, some still carried two or more. But back in July 1861, did the Confederates habitually carry two flags into battle? I'd presume the Stars and bars and the State Flag? Or did they have even more, all the company flags flying (I'm not doing that by the way). Or, was it the habit from early on to have one, the National Flag?

We gamed 1st Bull Run back in 2009. Here is a link:

http://new-wab.forumactif.org/t419-first-bull-run-salon-du-jeu-de-colomiers-octobre-2009?highlight=Bull+Run

As for Confederate flags, most units carried the state flag. Some carried a confederate flag but there were some confusion as nobody knew for sure how the stars and the bars should be disposed. You can see some of those flags carried by some units (don't take count of the battle flags....we had to use late war units as some painters defected on battle day)  :)
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 14, 2019, 08:53:16 PM
The first unit is finished.

This is the 33rd Virginia Infantry, part of the (after to be called) Stonewall Brigade. Their dark blue coats at the Battle of 1st Bull Run caused confusion amongst the Union forces, and allowed them to approach and capture an artillery battery. I came across a set of 33rd V. trad. Toy Soldiers painted all in dark blue with white cross straps so decided to copy that. It looks suitably un-Confederate which is what I want to achieve with this 1st Bull Run project.

The figures are all Perry Mins. I chose their metal Confederates in Frock Coats as that uniform is right for this early period. The officer is actually a Union officer from their Iron Brigade pack. The Iron Brigade wore the pre-War uniform of Hardy Hats and Frock Coats, so this officer I thought was perfect for a Colonel of the 33rd wearing a pre-War regular uniform.

The flags are from Flags of War. The National Flag is right for this period of the Confederacy. The green flag is the flag of E Company 33rd Virginia, the Emerald Guard, all Irishmen. The flag of the State of Virginia would probably be more accurate, but I like this flag, and you see it flying in the Bull Run scene in the film 'Gods and Generals'.

Next I'm doing the 5th Virginia.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: DintheDin on June 14, 2019, 09:00:00 PM
They really look the part  :-*
Well done!
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 14, 2019, 09:40:09 PM
I've found this range of Traditional Toy Soldiers that depict units from First Bull Run, and I'm going to use them as a guide for Jackson's Brigade.

They show the next regiment I'm doing, the 5th Virginia, like this:
(https://www.treefrogtreasures.com/images/Product/medium/ETTS-38-C.jpg)
(https://i0.wp.com/www.stonewallbrigade.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/30efc5e2c279541ea981aa9dbecb7204.jpg?fit=258%2C300)

I've got the Perry Miniatures metal Iron Brigade figures, wearing the early style Hardee Hat and Frock Coat, I plan to paint them to a similar scheme the Toy Soldiers have. The 5th Virginia also include the Morgan Guard, their Company K, who pre-war wore a AWI Continental uniform. It's not beyond the realms of possibility they had them on at 1st Bull Run, and the director of the film Gods and Generals chose to depict them as such, so I'm going to include a couple of AWI figures in the regiment!!

I came across this flag for the 5th Virginia (below). I'm not going to copy it, but I will give the 5th the Bonny Blue Flag as the National Flag, and the Virginia State flag.

Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Helen on June 14, 2019, 09:59:23 PM
Great start Nick. My favourite period of the civil war and battle.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: vodkafan on June 15, 2019, 09:00:02 AM
 Well done on the 33rd Virginia. Those 5th Virginia uniforms are going to look really different, can't wait to see your finished unit of those!
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on June 15, 2019, 05:33:18 PM
That's a grand start to the project. I'm looking forward to seeing it progress.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 15, 2019, 06:39:43 PM
I've finished off one 5th Virginia to see what I think. I'm quite happy with it. The figure is a Perry Mins Union Iron Brigade figure.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: DintheDin on June 15, 2019, 06:46:07 PM
Neat painting and I like this powder blue grey! Cheers!
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Plynkes on June 15, 2019, 07:09:52 PM
It's all coming along beautifully, Nick. Nice one.


I do like the different looks many units sported at this stage of the war. All sorts of oddities: What with zoauves still dressing like zouaves, kepis with Havelocks, rebels in blue, red shirts and some Confederates actually looking smart for a change, it all makes for a much more visually interesting spectacle than your average Civil War battle.




Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 15, 2019, 07:31:37 PM
I agree, that's what's inspired me. Got the figures for the five regiments of Jackson's Brigade bought from Perry Miniatures, and includes all the shirt clad, havelock wearing oddness.

Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 17, 2019, 04:20:20 PM
I couldn't resist it. I came across this card game that illustrates all the units involved in Bull Run 1861 and i had to get it.

It's really good. These guys must have put in loads of research. Not seen how it plays yet, might never play it.

'Course, it's got controversial already. Four of the Stonewall Brigade cards I agree with, but they show the 5th Virginia in all Dark Blue wearing a kepi, like how I painted the 33rd above. I've started doing the 5th in grey with the Hardee hats...
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Siaba on June 20, 2019, 06:22:12 PM
I had a look at theses cards when I was building armies for gaming 1st Bull Run. Lot of errors in my opinion. You should better search through Osprey books. I found also a lot of informations in a Military Modelling two part article titled Sunday picnic (or something approaching).
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Mindenbrush on June 21, 2019, 12:35:42 PM
Sunday Picnic Uniforms http://www.firstbullrun.co.uk/About/index.html
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 21, 2019, 02:08:20 PM
WOW  :o Mr Soffe's obsession with 1st Bull Run puts my passing interest to shame.

http://www.firstbullrun.co.uk/First-Bull-Run.pdf (http://www.firstbullrun.co.uk/First-Bull-Run.pdf)

Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: traveller on June 21, 2019, 02:19:23 PM
Great project! I really enjoyed your last project so I will follow this closely. I might even start painting some of my own ACW leadpile  ;) I wish though that someone would make some 28mm Marines, maybe you can twist the Crusader arm into this  :)
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 21, 2019, 09:54:41 PM
I had Marines in mind too, as they were part of the attack on Henry House Hill. But I was just going to paint Union in kepi with Jackets Marine colours. Do you think they should be different?

I was working from this Don picture:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d5/0a/d0/d50ad04ada5fc799a8095d7ef40d3581.jpg)

I thought I might have to do some putty work on the officers shoulder boards, but apart from that it'd be in the painting.

The figures I AM getting Mark to add to the Crusader range is the 79th NY.
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/P4MAAOSwY3BZDkoL/s-l300.jpg)
Do we do just one fella in a kilt for the craic?
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: traveller on June 21, 2019, 10:24:52 PM
I guess it is the distinctive crossbelts that are missing. I think also the marine kepi is a bit lower than the regular infantry version.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on June 23, 2019, 11:08:41 PM
Just posting a 'part way done' picture of the 5th Virginia.

I had to include 'K' Company, the Continental Morgan Guard in the regiment. It's unlikely they did fight in their antebellum militia uniform, but what the heck, this is toy soldiers. As my regiments are only 16 figure strong, just 2 figures in the Continental uniform does the job.

Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Siaba on July 02, 2019, 12:58:52 PM
Very nice, although we can legitimately ask ourselves if they ever fought in this uniform….but you like it like that, please yourself.
By the way, the "Sunday picnic uniform" articles can be found in october 1987 and december issues of MILITARY MODELLING. The december 87 article is just an errata: an uniform plate forgotten in the original article. You can do without but I found it really useful to decipher the two tables listing the uniforms worn at 1st Bull Run  :)
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on July 02, 2019, 03:38:06 PM
I'm sure they didn't fight at Bull Run in this uniform. There's evidence that the Continental uniform fell to pieces after a stint of guard duty at Harpers Ferry post John Brown's Raid.

But I don't care about that  lol

I'd love to read those MM articles, are they online anywhere?
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Siaba on July 02, 2019, 04:10:25 PM
If they are, I was unable to find them at the time I was building armies for Bull Run…had to buy the magazines.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on July 02, 2019, 07:34:39 PM
Hmm, sounds like a mission. I'll have a go.
+++ Found them on eBay+++
Ordered. One of them said it'll take a month to arrive. From Lincoln  ???
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Plynkes on July 03, 2019, 09:57:37 AM
Oh dear. Maybe you could go and pick them up? I once bought some colonial art prints from a dealer over the internet, and when he saw my address he realised I only lived about four miles away and asked me if I wanted to come over and get them personally, as it would be easier for everyone. So that's what I did. I realise Lincoln and Nottingham aren't quite that close, but you never know, it might work.


Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on July 03, 2019, 02:33:54 PM
I did the same once myself. Sold some figures on ebay, the bloke that ordered it was in the same town as me so I dropped them round.

Lincoln is close, but the mag cost £1.

+++The chap is sending it 1st class tomorrow. Hurrah!+++
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on July 03, 2019, 07:50:25 PM
The 5th Virginia, part of Jackson's Brigade, to be named the Stonewall Brigade after the battle.

I've used all Perry Miniatures. I've mentioned in earlier parts of this post, I've attempted to show the different uniforms worn by the companies in the 5th Virginia.

I've used some of the Perry Mins Iron Brigade to represent the Company A, the Marion Rifles. They have a grey frock coat, and a black hat with the sides turned up. They also have unique triple bar cuff trim. Picture A shows my version of them.

Picture B shows two figures representing Company K, the Continental Morgan Guard. They based their uniforms of a hero of the AWI, Morgan. Did they really march to the ACW in these tricorn topped uniforms? I've read a source that said their uniforms fell to pieces after guard duty at Harpers Ferry post John Brown's Raid. But I'm going along with idea they still had the Continental uniform to march to Bull Run in. The other two figures represent a more mixed back of ex-militiamen, frock coats, civilian trousers and hats.

Picture C and D show other companies in the regiment. One company in dark blue Regular Army type coats and Kepis, others in variations similar to the Marion Guard.

The flags are both from Flags of War. One is the State flag of Virginia. The other is the Bonnie Blue, a design mooted as the flag of the Confederacy at the time of succession. I included it for some variety, and also because the 5th carried a similar looking flag later on in the war.

The 27th Virginia next!
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on July 05, 2019, 01:05:49 PM
By the power of eBay, I have the 1987 Military Modelling mags.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on July 07, 2019, 09:23:53 PM
Just wanted to share the joys of historical research  lol

I'm doing the 27th Virginia of the 1st (Jackson's Brigade) next in the 1st Bull Run project. I've three main sources of uniforms right now.
1. Don Troiani's pictures. He shows the 27th wearing hunting shirts (red, green, white), Kepis with and without havelocks and Sicilian caps.
2. Bull Run Illustrated card game. Uniforms of grey Frock Coats & grey trousers, and old fashioned caps.
3. The Military Modelling article. Dark blue Kepi without havelocks, dark blue frock coats and dark blue trousers.

For crying out loud  o_o

I'm going with Don, because Perry Mins do a great couple of sets of early war Confederates wearing havelocks, Scilian caps and old fashioned caps.

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/d3oAAOSwoFZaus2G/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Plynkes on July 07, 2019, 09:37:30 PM
I love those Don Troiani paintings.


My nephew is quite into painting figures from the Civil War, and his default position is to always follow Troiani if there is any kind of debate. When pressed as to why his reason is always some variation of "because he's right", said with a wink. So I think at least one person will approve of your decision. :)

Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: DintheDin on July 07, 2019, 09:52:24 PM
May be two  :D
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Roo on July 07, 2019, 10:29:30 PM
Nope, at least three.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: zippyfusenet on July 07, 2019, 11:25:50 PM
1. Don Troiani's pictures. He shows the 27th wearing hunting shirts (red, green, white), Kepis with and without havelocks and Sicilian caps.

Ima gunna let my pedant flag fly here. Those aren't hunting shirts, they're battle shirts, also called fireman's shirts. Notice there are no fringes or colored trim, and the shirts are tucked into the men's trousers. These were *very* common wear by Confederate soldiers in Virginia in 1861.

This style of heavy shirt was often worn as outer wear by laborers in the mid-19th century, such as firemen feeding boilers, or fire-fighters. Some volunteer units in 1861 adopted them as uniform. Many units who had fancy uniforms packed them away and bought more practical fireman's shirts for wear in the field. By 1862, the battle shirts had mostly been replaced by government issued uniform coats.

July 21 1861 was a blazingly hot day in Northern Virginia. Many soldiers in both armies stripped their coats off and fought in their shirt sleeves. Men who had battle shirts were glad to wear them. It's not that the 27th Virginia didn't have uniform coats to wear to the battle, it was just too goddam hot to wear them.

Realistically, most soldiers at the battle of 1st Bull Run were probably stripped to their shirtsleeves, soaked in sweat, and coated with dust and gunpowder residue. But I don't want to be a spoilsport, go ahead and paint up fancy volunteer uniforms if you wanna. I do that myself, truth to tell...

Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on July 08, 2019, 12:16:20 AM
I meant Battle shirts  8)

But excellent contribution Z, thank you.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Leman on July 08, 2019, 09:26:06 AM
Where would wargaming be without Pendants Corner?  lol I wouldn’t be able to have my occasional grump about ACW wargame photos with eastern theatre and western theatre flags all mixed up together  :-[
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on July 11, 2019, 02:26:23 PM
To get my Bull Run project done while the enthusiasm is high, I've got others to paint up the Union forces.

My good chum Mr Dave Woodward has just finished the NY Fire Brigade Zouaves for me. Figures Perry Miniatures, flags Flags of War.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Plynkes on July 11, 2019, 02:43:12 PM
Champion! I've always liked their look. Stylish bunch of guys.


Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: nicknorthstar on July 11, 2019, 03:09:40 PM
Same.

It's a bonkers battle, men in redshirts and white havelocked caps on both sides charging at each other.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: vtsaogames on July 11, 2019, 05:26:54 PM
It's surprising there wasn't more "friendly" fire, perhaps because it was open terrain. The next year at Shiloh would see a lot of that in the woods, and they had something resembling standard uniforms by then, at least compared to 1st Bull Run.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: DintheDin on July 11, 2019, 08:30:13 PM
Awesome!
Couldn't be better, and the flags too!
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: Helen on July 11, 2019, 09:44:04 PM
Lovely brushwork from Dave.
Title: Re: Nick's 1st Bull Run project.
Post by: vodkafan on July 13, 2019, 10:11:05 AM
1. Don Troiani's pictures. He shows the 27th wearing hunting shirts (red, green, white), Kepis with and without havelocks and Sicilian caps.

Ima gunna let my pedant flag fly here. Those aren't hunting shirts, they're battle shirts, also called fireman's shirts. Notice there are no fringes or colored trim, and the shirts are tucked into the men's trousers. These were *very* common wear by Confederate soldiers in Virginia in 1861.

This style of heavy shirt was often worn as outer wear by laborers in the mid-19th century, such as firemen feeding boilers, or fire-fighters. Some volunteer units in 1861 adopted them as uniform. Many units who had fancy uniforms packed them away and bought more practical fireman's shirts for wear in the field. By 1862, the battle shirts had mostly been replaced by government issued uniform coats.

July 21 1861 was a blazingly hot day in Northern Virginia. Many soldiers in both armies stripped their coats off and fought in their shirt sleeves. Men who had battle shirts were glad to wear them. It's not that the 27th Virginia didn't have uniform coats to wear to the battle, it was just too goddam hot to wear them.

Realistically, most soldiers at the battle of 1st Bull Run were probably stripped to their shirtsleeves, soaked in sweat, and coated with dust and gunpowder residue. But I don't want to be a spoilsport, go ahead and paint up fancy volunteer uniforms if you wanna. I do that myself, truth to tell...

Good concise information. I wondered why so many of my Redoubt Rebs had those baggy shirts on...
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Post by: nicknorthstar on July 13, 2019, 02:47:05 PM
Damn.
I made a specific choice on this project to use more tufts than just static grass, and I chose three shades specifically for it.
I was just looking at Don Troiani's paintings earlier, and what lept out at me? Long yellow grass. 'Course, it's a red hot July. The grass is all dry.
 lol
I should have chosen yellow and dry tufts.

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Post by: Siaba on July 14, 2019, 08:36:07 AM
My nephew is quite into painting figures from the Civil War, and his default position is to always follow Troiani if there is any kind of debate. When pressed as to why his reason is always some variation of "because he's right", said with a wink. So I think at least one person will approve of your decision. :)
A guy who visit Civil war battlefield to see what the color of the grass is before painting can't be wrong  ;)
As for myself, I trust Troinai as he did a lot of historical researches for his paintings. But I wouldn't place much confidence in the Bull Run card game.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on July 14, 2019, 01:00:29 PM
Does anyone know for sure, the US Marines at Bull Run, did they just have one flag?

It's the impression I get from this site: https://www.gettysburgflag.com/blog/every-marine-carries-the-flag/ (https://www.gettysburgflag.com/blog/every-marine-carries-the-flag/)

+++Update. I'm pretty much 100% certain it's just this one flag +++
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Post by: FossilSN on July 14, 2019, 08:17:06 PM
Great job
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Post by: nicknorthstar on July 14, 2019, 09:02:36 PM
I've had another Don moment   :D

This is his 1st Minnesota picture.
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17991881_1383122151767801_4798882511453314048_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_oc=AQkkiViJjTJLb0P2IY-JFL9vgxATqacSvCZqP8-E8NJxbAlAkFuLtO7uHYgokkcNPmTWqz4cYGAwY8S-ACwT4ssz&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=6762dc08e6e2b48c6e36bb9b62fa6387&oe=5DC0AB86)

But the Bull Run cards, the Military Modelling mags and a bunch of re-enactors have them in check shirts and black wide brimmed hats. Yadiya.

Don it is, more Perry Miniatures ACW in shirt and havelocks please  lol
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Post by: nicknorthstar on July 14, 2019, 09:16:01 PM
These three are going to be part of the 27th Virginia, but it looks like they'll stand in for all kinds of units on both sides in this battle!
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Post by: Leman on July 15, 2019, 10:16:33 AM
Garibaldi has a lot to answer for.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on July 15, 2019, 10:55:27 AM
I know, I support Nottingham Forest, est. 1865 and our red shirt shirt is still called the Garibaldi.
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Post by: Plynkes on July 15, 2019, 11:44:42 AM
Nottingham football not only received inspiration from Italy, it went in the other direction, too. Juventus FC play in black and white, originally in emulation of Notts County.


It's funny things have got on to Notts Forest: I met a bloke in the pub this weekend, who I hadn't seen in about 25 years. We were reminiscing about a mini-bus trip to Nottingham to see Forest against Hereford in the FA cup. As I recall he was arrested and we had to leave him there. He was eventually fined 95 quid for being drunk and disorderly and breach of the peace (there was no fighting or anything like that, though). Never knew that until now. Expensive old day out. lol



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Post by: nicknorthstar on July 15, 2019, 01:56:46 PM
Now then, a Forest fan has no problem with Notts Forest, but that sends County fans apoplectic.

'It's NOTTINGHAM Forest, we're Notts!'  lol lol

You are right, the Juventus shirt comes from borrowing/ being sent a load of Notts County shirts back in the 19th C. Similarly, the Arsenal red originates from being lent a load of Forest Garibaldis back in the day.

Were you following Hereford in 2006? My other team is Halifax Town, I went along to watch us play you in Leicester in the Conference play-off finals.
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Post by: Plynkes on July 15, 2019, 02:20:05 PM
No, I had given up on actually going to football matches by that point. I have been to see Hereford play in Halifax several times, though, including in 93 when Halifax were relegated on the last day of the season. That was emotional. We followed them into the Conference a few years later, and both teams have since gone out of business and then been resurrected in new iterations. So we have a quite a bit in common.


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Post by: flags_of_war on July 16, 2019, 09:35:43 AM
These three are going to be part of the 27th Virginia, but it looks like they'll stand in for all kinds of units on both sides in this battle!

One of my fave units of the war. Just for the flag alone :D
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Post by: nicknorthstar on July 16, 2019, 11:10:02 AM
What flag?

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Post by: flags_of_war on July 16, 2019, 04:37:09 PM
What flag?

Just read that you are using them for the 27th VA. I thought it was the 11th NY Fire Zouaves.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on July 16, 2019, 04:54:03 PM
Ah, they are done already!!

(not by me, Dave Woodward. I'm farming the Union out and concentrating on the Rebs).
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Post by: Lord Raglan on July 16, 2019, 04:56:45 PM
Very dandy!!!  :-*
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Post by: flags_of_war on July 16, 2019, 04:57:28 PM
Ah, they are done already!!

(not by me, Dave Woodward. I'm farming the Union out and concentrating on the Rebs).

Wonderful
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Post by: DintheDin on July 16, 2019, 07:36:26 PM
Don Troiani in 3D! Great!
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Post by: Romark on July 16, 2019, 08:01:34 PM
 :-* :-*
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Post by: nicknorthstar on July 23, 2019, 12:29:23 AM
My painting has slowed up, but the two Bull Run regiments along units from my Antietam project took up the right wing at a game round Alan Perrys this evening.
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Post by: DintheDin on July 23, 2019, 08:20:28 AM
An epic collection! I would be very happy to see more pictures of the game!  :P
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Post by: nicknorthstar on July 23, 2019, 10:19:15 AM
I didn't take that many unfortunately.

The first pic is the Reb's right flank that I was holding, with a refused flank.

The second pic is my guns facing the main Union advance.

The 3rd pic is my Johnnies marching out from their position to hit the Union. That charge scattered the Zouaves in the photo.
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Post by: DintheDin on July 23, 2019, 10:44:44 AM
When one has so beautiful minis, he can take great shots as these, especially when the table set up is gorgeous as well!   :o
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Post by: AlyMorrison on July 24, 2019, 08:16:11 AM
It was a great game indeed...
Nick may not have taken a lot of pictures but I did...including the images of the Confederate army running away... lol
I will try and post them the blog this week...

All the best.  Aly
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Post by: Captain Blood on July 24, 2019, 10:00:42 AM
Very very nice Nick. Always good to see the Perry’s lovely terrain collection in use too.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on July 24, 2019, 11:25:04 AM
It is

There were about 1000 figures on the table, I just took pics of the 140 or so that I'd brought along to join in with. Look forward to seeing Aly's revisionist photos. Confederates running indeed.
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Post by: Romark on July 24, 2019, 12:03:12 PM
Great looking game  :-*
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Post by: AlyMorrison on July 28, 2019, 12:09:25 AM
Ah!...
It turns out I didn't have as many decent pictures as I thought....

I have strung the ones together to make an 'honest' account of the battle...

The Confederates still ran away...

All the best... Aly

https://alystoysoldiers.blogspot.com/2019/07/from-my-side-of-table-battle-of.html
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Post by: Lord Raglan on July 28, 2019, 01:36:14 AM
Cracking stuff Nick, your threads always offer so much more than just pics of great looking miniatures.
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Post by: Helen on July 28, 2019, 02:09:27 AM
Lovely looking game with beautiful scenery and miniatures.

Thank you for sharing Nick and Aly.

Best regards,

Helen
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Post by: nicknorthstar on July 28, 2019, 12:23:30 PM
Aly, that's LOADS of pictures.

About the game, I like Alans 'fog of war' deployment he's come up with. Each side gets 14 generals, but you choose which ones are actually Brigade Commanders and which are decoys. And you decide the size of the Brigade, 3-6 regiments I think. You reveal whether the commander is real or not when they come within X distance of enemy troops. The Generals all move at the same speed regardless of terrain etc.

So on the our side, the 5 generals on the right were all decoys. When my right centre Generals were revealed, I deployed those Brigades in a 'refused flank' formation, to form a wall against the Union left coming towards the decoys. The idea was to hold the right and sweep around on our left, unfortunately we hit heavy opposition in the woods in front of our left, there was no 'sweeping' done.

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Post by: nicknorthstar on August 02, 2019, 09:16:45 PM
US Marines.
If you're following my thread, you'll know I'm only painting the Confederates at 1st Bull. The Union side I'm getting other painters to do.

The splendid chaps at Artmaster Studios have just finished my regiment of Union Marines!

I've asked them to base them to fit in with the regiments I'm painting, and they do a terrific job.

The figures are Crusader Miniatures ACW in frock coats, painted as Marines. The flag is a photoshopped piece of trickery by our Kev Dallimore, and from what I could find out, the Marines just carried the one flag into battle.
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Post by: Leman on August 03, 2019, 08:20:55 AM
That looks a well painted and animated unit.
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Post by: traveller on August 03, 2019, 11:40:41 AM
Lovely unit  :-*

They can get a second chance to prove their worth in curbing the Draft Riots in NY in 1863  ;)
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Post by: Lord Raglan on August 03, 2019, 11:45:48 AM
I am liking these sailor boys
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Post by: Leman on August 04, 2019, 07:26:50 PM
 :o
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Post by: Helen on August 04, 2019, 10:06:03 PM
Lovely work from your artist on the marines.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on August 09, 2019, 07:23:07 PM
Okay, it's getting embarrassing now. I'm painting the Rebs in this project, and I'm farming out the Union to other people to do for me. I've hit a painting block, but the Union carries on.

These are the 14th New York State Militia, the Brooklyn Chasseurs. Painted by Dave Woodward.

The figures are Perry Miniatures zouaves in kepi. Neither PM or Crusader do the chasseurs, but these zouaves are quite close so I went with them.
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Post by: Helen on August 09, 2019, 08:22:10 PM
Lovely work from Dave.
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Post by: vtsaogames on August 09, 2019, 08:24:02 PM
Dese guys are really nice. Youse may want to talk da right way when using dem.
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Post by: Leman on August 10, 2019, 09:44:31 AM
Are you sure they’re the 14th Brooklyn and not the 14th Toxteth. The above reads just like scouse.
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Post by: vtsaogames on August 10, 2019, 02:25:24 PM
I'm on the wrong side of the pond, no idea what scouse is.
Brooklynese I know.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on August 10, 2019, 07:18:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw9RuwD9sqQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw9RuwD9sqQ)

As a Forest fan, I'll keep my opinion to myself...
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Post by: zippyfusenet on August 11, 2019, 01:21:37 AM
Da Toity Poiple Boids

Toity poiple boids wuz sittin onna coibstone, boipin an choipin an eatin doity woims.

Along comes Boit anna skoit named Goit what woiks inna shoit factwy ovah in Joisey,

An dey seen da toity poiple boids sittin onna coibstone, boipin an choipin an eatin doity woims,

An Boit sez, "Look Goit!"

An boi, wuz dey pwetoibed.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on August 11, 2019, 12:13:50 PM
Although I'm not painting the Union side, just the Rebs, all the research is done by me, and it's been quite time consuming. Artmaster have painted the US marines, and I wanted to send them the 1st Minnesota next.

I mentioned on page 3 of this thread that I would defer to the great Don in all matters of uniforms, but I'm going to to have to break that rule  :o

Don shows the 1st MN in red shirts and caps with havelocks. My other sources show them in hats, but also red shirts. I found the regimental history on line yesterday and I read through the early part, the muster and 1st Bull Run. So it's pretty clear they were issued with Red Shirts (a kind of workmans overshirt), black hats and black 'pants' (trousers please, pants are under-crackers). They were gifted havelocks on the route to Bull Run. After Bull Run, the regiment gets all sulky because they still don't have a proper uniform, just the red shirt look, so within weeks they get their Blue-Belly uniform and CAPS.

So Dons right, they did have havelocks, but it seems pretty clear they wore black hats not caps. Did they fashion a weird havelock over the hat combination, wear them under the hat? Or did they just say 'thank you Mam' when handed the havelock, but thought 'I've got a brimmed hat, I don't need neck protection' and used them to strain coffee instead.

These are the things that keep me up at night  lol

The decision is not to go with Don, but use Crusader Miniatures in hats and shirts and get them painted like these reenactors:
(http://www.1stminnd.org/Images/30890001.jpg)

What it does say in the regimental history is one of the companies showed up in a proper grey uniform. (their locality paid for it). So I'm going to mix 2 or 3 figures into the regiment in full grey frock coat/ grey kepi. Plus officer in full blue with gold epaulettes. I think they are going to look great!!
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Post by: vtsaogames on August 11, 2019, 06:09:17 PM
Scouse ain't nuttin' like Brooklyn. See here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj9NLI_VJmI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj9NLI_VJmI)
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Post by: Leman on August 13, 2019, 03:47:30 PM
In that instance yes, it ain’t nottin’ like Brooklyn. Youse lot woz right all along laird.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on August 13, 2019, 04:45:15 PM
Here's a sneak preview of some new ACW figures by Crusader Miniatures' Mark Sims. It's the 79th New York, the 'Highlanders'.

There will be more riflemen, but he's not doing bagpipes or kilts.
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Post by: vodkafan on August 13, 2019, 08:33:21 PM
These look great!
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Post by: Leman on August 14, 2019, 05:21:32 PM
Didn’t an American president say something along those lines in 1846?
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Post by: nicknorthstar on August 23, 2019, 12:04:31 AM
The Fighting 69th are done. Dave Woodward painted these. Based on Don Troiani's painting, the regiment is in shirts. I chose to not also put them in havelocks as Don shows them, but four figures are painted as the Zouave company, and we've put them in Irish green sashes. The flags are from Flags of War.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on August 23, 2019, 12:10:15 AM
Pics of the four Union regiments I've got ready for 1st Bull Run.
I don't intend to do every individual unit involved in the attack on Henry House Hill, just a selection of colourful regiments to mix in with the 'blue-bellies' I've already got.
Fire Zoaves
Fighting 69th New York Irish
Brooklyn Chasseurs
US Marines
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Post by: nicknorthstar on August 23, 2019, 12:13:38 AM
Union V Confederate.
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Post by: Helen on August 23, 2019, 12:15:13 AM
Very nice Nick.
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Post by: zippyfusenet on August 23, 2019, 01:36:04 AM
That's a good selection of characterful 90-day volunteers, and the Marines to stiffen them. Best pull off your coat and roll up your sleeves, for Richmond is a hard road to travel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK4q7YdVzF0
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Post by: DintheDin on August 23, 2019, 09:08:37 AM
...and Manassas is a hard road to travel, as well  lol
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Post by: has.been on August 23, 2019, 10:20:43 AM
As my Man Cave starts to become organised. I have been promising for some fifty years
to get organised (so don't hold your breath) I want period music playing in the background.
This band would be a good start for ACW. I did buy some CDs while on holiday in America, for just such a thing, but they were ALL ...PANTS! (to put it politely)
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Post by: vodkafan on August 23, 2019, 05:44:49 PM
As my Man Cave starts to become organised. I have been promising for some fifty years
to get organised (so don't hold your breath) I want period music playing in the background.
This band would be a good start for ACW. I did buy some CDs while on holiday in America, for just such a thing, but they were ALL ...PANTS! (to put it politely)

You can't judge by the quality of the musical content you just have to recognise the enthusiasm  lol
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Post by: zippyfusenet on August 24, 2019, 03:17:10 AM
I did buy some CDs while on holiday in America, for just such a thing, but they were ALL ...PANTS! (to put it politely)

Nick, please forgive me for taking your thread on a short tangent.

The 2nd South Carolina String Band are good musicians and very period authentic. They recorded at least two albums.

Jim Taylor and Friends are also period authentic, mostly instrumental:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjuxW4lJZTU

Wayne Erbsen is a master of the banjo. He's recorded at least three albums of Civil War music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTO56ELdtr8

I'm fond of Anonymous 4's album 1865. Their Gloryland album is also music of the era:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTAYMfbn50c&list=PLMJAo3g4LDzaV2rTA1mg2muYpJczbR_HH

Connie Dover has the voice of an angel. I fell in love at the first note:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRBzZZk20NE

I'll also call your attention to two recent compilation albums, Songs of the Civil War and Divided & United. These albums feature many different artists, some of them celebrities, others not so much, performing their favorite Civil War era music, each in his or her own style and interpretation. Consequently, the albums are very uneven, you'll probably like some cuts and not others. Still, if you care to hear such as Hoyt Axton, John Hartford, Richie Havens, Lee Ann Womack, Sweet Honey In The Rock and Taj Mahal, here they are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGeCPv6gw_U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhKKyPp6_XQ&list=PLWVEUo2Gj8Spoy4_IqgQn6dWb27Yy0NKo
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Post by: has.been on August 24, 2019, 02:07:34 PM
zippyfusenat. many thanks for that, though 2 of them were disabled by 'owner'
Certainly food for thought & I will get something.
Also apologies to Nick for sidetracking your wonderful thread.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on August 25, 2019, 08:26:35 PM
Don't worry, I kept side-tracking my Antietam post with comments about the music I was listening too while painting. The String Band was one of them. 'I'll kill that Yankee Soldier' an apt song while painting raggedy Rebs
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Post by: nicknorthstar on August 26, 2019, 01:33:38 PM
I have a tendancy to draw folks into my enthusiasms, and so Mark Sims is part way through a new unit for the Union side at First Bull Run, the distinct 79th New York Highlanders.

They'll be out in September, Mark is making a few more figures before we release them.

(https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69285461_2821593821202835_7417424811002953728_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_eui2=AeEJOpxF5UJ9nAX71JN6u828ktx_zq9TXs2WfrgpImiHyXMyUGo4OhZJucSysmduPHQYvaStssoesDGlmHTXQhVB4bgdS6TUBvijjWZClsswCg&_nc_oc=AQk8dEehhR6D0ezQ8Vpjq3g4poVvlU_IGK9198-4o2MQdpJWrrgaVhLf7Vn3HfTfV9muFQ9XXshL5kClYUQ4WQSO&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=7c6d18ebb7cf0eef67783d3b10fe94a4&oe=5E13570A)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/P4MAAOSwY3BZDkoL/s-l500.jpg)
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Post by: t_c_inquisitor on August 26, 2019, 05:17:06 PM
These look great.

The Union army can lack variety in comparison to the Confederates, but with the units demonstrated in this thread, the modelling and painting opportunities continue to rise.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on October 29, 2019, 06:45:09 PM
Wow, I've not done anything since August. Damn Gaslands and those silly little cars.

I've got some more 79th New York figures from Mark Sims, so I'll be getting on with painting this regiment up now.

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Post by: Lord Raglan on October 29, 2019, 08:45:15 PM
How cool are these latest additions mate  :-*
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Post by: Helen on October 29, 2019, 08:57:16 PM
Very nice work from Mark.
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Post by: RobertBruce on October 30, 2019, 03:00:31 AM
Enjoyed this long thread, lovely figures and discussion. I admire your research to get these uniforms right. Not easy for this battle.  Glad to see men in shirts... if you've ever been there on a July day you can appreciate that coats were readily discarded.

Union troops and their flanking battery held their fire when the 33rd Virginia attacked wearing blue uniforms, mistaking them for their own men. This was a key event in the battle as I understand it.

 As the war went on, uniforms got to be pretty scruffy. Faded Union blue and homespun Rebel butternut in various shades. Bare feet and lots of colors and styles of hats for the South.  Not sure how some 1st Bull Run guys would fit in if you ever do Gettysburg, but they are a real treat to behold - much thanks for this thread! RB
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Post by: Leman on October 30, 2019, 09:45:13 AM
Don’t entirely agree with the above statement about Confederate uniforms. Apparently the scruffiest, most dishevelled version of the ANV was at Antietam in 1862. As the Confederates got to grips with their uniform supply and distribution things improved. By 1863/4 the ANV and the Trans-Mississippi armies were were well supplied with Richmond depot grey uniforms or imported Tait uniforms in blue-grey. The Army of Tennessee had lighter coloured uniforms supplied by the likes of the Columbus depot, many of which sported blue cuff and/or collar trim. One thing which was very rarely seen after mid-1863 was light blue trousers in the Confederate armies owing to an order to bleach/dye captured Union trousers to avoid friendly fire incidents.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on October 30, 2019, 12:04:33 PM
You are right about not fitting these regiments into Gettysburg. I probably won't as a rule use them for games set later in the war, but if a really big battle is planned, what the heck, every figure will be on the table.
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Post by: RobertBruce on October 30, 2019, 06:13:14 PM
You are right Leman, and my post was misleading. I stand corrected.

The dark blue grey English uniform was in wide circulation toward the end of the war. "Scruffy" is perhaps not the right word, although they were at times ragged and described themselves as such. I believe the making and supplying of uniforms in the South took quite a while to become standardized, resulting in a variety of browns and homespuns sourced from individual states and local suppliers. And some Confederate gray took as little as a month to fade to  brown when exposed to the elements. 

As I recall from my Bruce Catton, even in 1864 some Rebels wore captured Union uniforms and gained an advantage in one of the fights during Grant's relentless campaign against Lee.
For those who may not have seen it , Fred Adolphus has a wonderful website on Confederate uniforms. RB
  http://www.adolphusconfederateuniforms.com/index.html
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Post by: nicknorthstar on October 30, 2019, 08:28:44 PM
The chaps at Artmaster have finished the 1st Minnesota.

If you look back to August, I discussed the uniform of the 1st Minnesota and how I came to the choice I made.

The majority of the regiment marched to Bull Run wearing red battle-shirts, with black hats and black trousers. I've used Crusader Miniatures in hat and shirt for the figures. One of the companies were presented with grey uniforms, bought for them by their County, so I've used Crusader figures in frock coats and caps to represent them. I put the two standard bearers in grey uniform as well. (Flags are by Flags of War) The officer is in a Dark Blue Regular Army uniform from the pre-war period, and this figure is part of the new release of 79th New York range of figures from Crusader.
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Post by: Leman on October 31, 2019, 08:05:13 AM
They look really good as early was volunteers.
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Post by: DintheDin on October 31, 2019, 10:48:35 AM
They look really good as early was volunteers.

Indeed!  :-*
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Post by: Leman on October 31, 2019, 05:21:20 PM
Can’t think why I hit the s rather than the r?  ;D
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Post by: DintheDin on October 31, 2019, 05:46:51 PM
Can’t think why I hit the s rather than the r?  ;D

Because you had in mind the War of Austrian Succession, perhaps?  lol
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Post by: Leman on November 01, 2019, 07:47:45 AM
Oops! Fontenoy fixation.
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Post by: DintheDin on November 01, 2019, 10:31:52 AM
Oops! Fontenoy fixation.

 lol lol lol
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Post by: Helen on November 01, 2019, 07:44:18 PM
Another gorgeous unit Nick, thank you for sharing your project.

Best regards,

Helen
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Post by: nicknorthstar on November 09, 2019, 08:21:09 PM
I took some new shots of the 1st Minnesota Volunteer Infantry that Artmaster Studios had painted for my 1st Bull Run project.
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Post by: Lord Raglan on November 09, 2019, 10:11:10 PM
Great miniatures, beautifully painted mate
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Post by: DintheDin on November 09, 2019, 11:20:55 PM
Perfect painting and I like this fire red!
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Post by: Helen on November 10, 2019, 01:15:21 AM
Nicely done unit.
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Post by: vtsaogames on November 17, 2019, 06:48:09 PM
One of the few Union regiments that withdrew in good order that day.

And then they were virtually wiped out plugging a hole in the line at Gettysburg, day 2, taking on a whole brigade.
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Post by: Axebreaker on November 21, 2019, 12:41:48 AM
Excellent thread! 8) Thought about doing an early war version at some point and this inspiration for that.

Christopher
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Post by: Lord Raglan on November 21, 2019, 08:46:23 AM
It's a fine looking collection Nick!!!
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Post by: nicknorthstar on November 23, 2019, 11:08:11 PM
Wargames Illustrated borrowed my 1st Bull Run collection and took these photos.
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Post by: DintheDin on November 23, 2019, 11:10:45 PM
Beautifully staged! A feast for the eyes!  :-* Cheers!
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Post by: nicknorthstar on November 23, 2019, 11:18:29 PM
More Wargames Illustrated pictures.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on November 23, 2019, 11:24:59 PM
And there's more
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Post by: Shahbahraz on November 26, 2019, 06:59:59 PM
Ooh, that's lovely, that is. Nice work Nick.
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Post by: Leman on November 27, 2019, 06:57:04 PM
Nice to see some blue Rebs.
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Post by: FlyXwire on November 28, 2019, 01:52:24 PM
These look so sharp - might even save a few as screen savers!
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Post by: nicknorthstar on November 28, 2019, 10:15:20 PM
I marched the Bull Run figures out tonight for a game.
I used our Death in the Dark Continent rules, with a change in the musket ranges to 4" effective 16" maximum. We had 5 regiments each, plus a battery of guns (one base). I liked it. We got the game over quite quick, I'm looking forward to trying it with 3-4 Brigades a side with multiple players.
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Post by: DintheDin on November 29, 2019, 09:08:09 AM
I like a lot what I see! Cheers!
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Post by: nicknorthstar on December 07, 2019, 05:39:29 PM
I'm going to give the African rules another go this week, a 6 player game with a Brigade each. I think we'll get a fast-play game done in the evening with an ACW feel. If not, we won't do it again.

Got the armies ready today.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on February 06, 2020, 03:31:43 PM
Okay, Hands up.  ::) The Bull Run project hit the wall. I've lost the painting bug. The good news is the units I have painted have been playing loads games.

I never planned to paint the 79th New York (Highland) Volunteer Regiment, they are on Kev Dallimore painting desk for North Star and the first pictures came through today.

Looking good.
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Post by: DintheDin on February 06, 2020, 03:41:38 PM
Your armies give an impressive sight!
And 79th NY looking good? Only? They are superb!
Their tartans are one of the finest job I've seen!  :-*
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Post by: Roo on February 06, 2020, 09:03:19 PM
WOW :-X :-*
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Post by: Painter Jim on February 06, 2020, 09:15:41 PM
Wow those are fabulous.
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Post by: Frostie on February 12, 2020, 01:19:48 PM
Great work, I'd love to do something for 1st Bull Run but in 6mm. My Google fu has failed me as I can find OOBs but not one with the number of men per regiment or the number of companies even.....any help would be appreciated
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Post by: FifteensAway on February 12, 2020, 02:21:01 PM
Haven't popped in for a while.  Like the photos of the two division sized forces.  That's a good size for a game that can have as many as three players per side and not be overwhelming. 

Nice collection.  It will grow.  They always seem to.  The little buggers have meetings while we sleep and convince our subconscious we must have more.  I'm sure that's it.   :D
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Post by: nicknorthstar on February 12, 2020, 04:58:37 PM
Hi Frostie

Explore this site: http://www.firstbullrun.co.uk/index.html (http://www.firstbullrun.co.uk/index.html)

Nick
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Post by: Helen on February 12, 2020, 09:23:21 PM
Nice brushwork from Kev on these latest miniatures.
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Post by: Frostie on February 16, 2020, 09:39:58 AM
Hi Frostie

Explore this site: http://www.firstbullrun.co.uk/index.html (http://www.firstbullrun.co.uk/index.html)

Nick

Thanks Nick
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Post by: nicknorthstar on February 22, 2020, 10:32:06 AM
Flags of War have just produced this 28mm flag for the 79th New York Highlanders. Brilliant. Kev is going to finish off the 79th as a regiment, I'll post pics when he's done.

(https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/87001439_3235119709850242_3905840969764831232_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ohc=MOqNivs33_EAX_WxlVN&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-1.xx&oh=9533621de3712a1970735be6cea843c3&oe=5EC3C3D3)
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Post by: nicknorthstar on April 27, 2020, 10:01:42 AM
My enthusiasm for painting hasn't resurfaced, but I really want to finish off this Bull Run project, so I've got Artmaster on the job to to complete the Stonewall Brigade.

Here's the 2nd Virginia Regiment. All Perry Miniatures.

The flag is really cool. It's the original 2nd Virginia flag, and with a bit of photoshop magic, the photo of it turns into a 28mm flag. Thanks to Kev Dallimore for that.

My painting bug hasn't returned, but these Bull Run Rebs have been battling away on the tabletop, or at least they were until the Coronavirus put an end to our fun.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on April 27, 2020, 10:08:04 AM
This is the 4th Virginia.

Perry Miniatures, painted by Artmaster, flag by Flags of War.
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Post by: vodkafan on April 27, 2020, 10:20:56 AM
Your Mojo did sterling work while it lasted Nic, and you got  Mark Sims to expand his ACW range, so that's a win for everyone  ;)
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Post by: DintheDin on April 27, 2020, 10:24:31 AM
Very nice paintjob once more and your Photoshop magic on the 2nd Virginia flag performed miracles!  :-*
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Post by: Romark on April 27, 2020, 11:05:52 AM
Lovely work on those minis,great additions to your collection  :-*
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Post by: Helen on April 27, 2020, 09:38:03 PM
Great additions to your collections. Love the flags.

Best wishes,

Helen
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Post by: spaceman joe on April 28, 2020, 11:48:46 AM
Great work Nick. Looks like everything is coming along nicely  :-*
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Post by: nicknorthstar on April 28, 2020, 07:01:25 PM
One last unit and I'm ready to refight 1st Bull Run.

Unfortunately because of lock down, my Rebs are at someone elses house where they last fought. I need to get 'em back.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on August 04, 2020, 11:37:11 PM
It's been months, but the project never dies.
Here are the command of the 79th New York (Highlanders)
They have been painted by Kev Dallimore. They'll get based and ready to march across the tabletop soon.
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Post by: Mindenbrush on August 05, 2020, 12:09:02 AM
Very nice 👍
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Post by: Helen on August 05, 2020, 06:32:55 AM
Lovely brushwork from Kev.
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Post by: DintheDin on August 05, 2020, 09:20:38 AM
Superb tartan, perfect faces and so neat painting overall! Lovely!
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Post by: Bloggard on August 05, 2020, 09:36:25 AM
blimey, no-one does velvety richness like mr. Dallimore. Fantastic  :-*
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Post by: vodkafan on August 05, 2020, 10:04:21 AM
The variety of these colourful early war uniforms have been a great surprise to me. Does your project stop when you have enough for 1st Bull Run Nick?
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Post by: Yankeepedlar01 on August 05, 2020, 10:33:02 AM
Those have turned out more than well!
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Post by: schoey on August 05, 2020, 10:37:05 AM
I am very tempted by the ACW early uniforms, an excellent project.
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Post by: Ray Rivers on August 05, 2020, 02:48:56 PM
Nice to see this rather grand project... back on track!
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Post by: nicknorthstar on August 05, 2020, 03:13:30 PM
The variety of these colourful early war uniforms have been a great surprise to me. Does your project stop when you have enough for 1st Bull Run Nick?

I just have to base one more Virginian regiment for the Stonewall Brigade (as they became known) and have Kev finish the 79th and that's it off the painting table.

There's a couple of units I thought I'd do, the chaps who formed the Iron brigade marched to Bull Run in Grey Uniforms, and JEB's cavalry would be nice, but I might just stop and make do with the figures I have in the rest of the collection.
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Post by: bluewillow on August 12, 2020, 07:38:32 AM
Lovely, the tartan looks great!

Looking forward to seeing the completed unit

Cheers
Matt
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Post by: Mindenbrush on August 12, 2020, 12:47:30 PM
Must be time for Kevin to put out a newsletter tutorial on painting these?
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Post by: FreakyFenton on August 12, 2020, 11:42:36 PM
Lovely, the tartan looks great!

Looking forward to seeing the completed unit

Cheers
Matt

+1  :)
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Post by: nicknorthstar on September 10, 2020, 06:51:36 PM
Kevin Dallimore has finished the 79th New York (Highlanders) Regiment. A tremendous paint job.

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Post by: DintheDin on September 10, 2020, 07:07:47 PM
So neat and so rich colors and perfect shading! Outstanding!
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Post by: Roo on September 10, 2020, 08:06:37 PM
Simply WOW
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Post by: Gangleri on September 10, 2020, 11:56:05 PM
Fantastic as always.
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Post by: Captain Blood on September 11, 2020, 10:00:00 AM
Cor!  :-*
He really is the maestro. Superb.
A fabulous addition to your collection, Nick.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on September 11, 2020, 10:21:53 AM
This is it, the very last regiment of the project.

The regiment here is the 27th Virginia. It's the fifth regiment of Jackson's Brigade. I've used Perry Miniatures dressed in the early war uniforms, carrying the first Confederate National flag and the flag of Virginia. The painting is a mix of me and Artmaster Studios. (I started painting, lost the bug so got Artmaster to finish off so I can get on playing).

What I want to do is refight the battle for Henry Hill at 1st Bull Run, where the Jackson's Virginians stood like a 'stonewall' to stop the Union advance, and fresh Confederate forces rushed up to turn the tide in the Rebs favour.

The aim of the project was to add a number of the uniquely uniformed regiments to the Union and Confederate forces I've already got to give the game a 1st Bull Run feel.

That's it's 5 different Reb units (The Stonewall Brigade) and 6 different Union units.

I'll add some pictures of the game when I get going.

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Post by: Helen on September 11, 2020, 10:21:43 PM
Lovely work Nick from yourself and your painter. Will look forward to seeing some pics of your game.
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Post by: DintheDin on September 12, 2020, 08:46:59 AM
One more addition to your collection, one of the best I've seen!
As Helen said, eager to see pics from your future games! Cheers!
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Post by: Bloggard on September 12, 2020, 01:10:08 PM
great stuff.
That last Dallimore unit ...  :-*
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Post by: Leapsnbounds on September 12, 2020, 07:58:05 PM
I am looking forward to seeing the entire set up so I can get inspired as well.
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Post by: valleyboy on September 15, 2020, 11:28:14 PM
those look great, the 79th NY are stunning
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Post by: Mindenbrush on September 17, 2020, 01:15:07 PM
The new advancing Crusader ACW paint up very nicely, I am doing some for my ACW forces and a couple for a friend’s Dracula’s America Dark Confederacy force.
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Post by: nicknorthstar on November 21, 2020, 09:34:43 PM
Thanks to Covid, I've still not refought Bull Run.

But last March, my Antietam collection and first Bull Run Confederates marched out in a campaign run by Alan Perry. This is my division marching across Alan's table.
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Post by: FlyXwire on November 22, 2020, 05:21:10 PM
......and they look awesome doing so!  :o
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Post by: DintheDin on November 22, 2020, 05:37:16 PM
A cinema-like picture! Beautiful!
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Post by: nicknorthstar on January 31, 2021, 02:25:53 PM
I've set the table up for a 1st Bull Run game, the battle for Henry House Hill. The figures are going to get a run out, hurrah.

I don't have a 6' hill, so the whole table is the hill, we'll mark the centre of the table as the crest.

Apart from the artillery and Jackson's Brigade in the trees, everything else is placed where they will randomly come on throughout the game.

Hope to play this out soon.
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Post by: Helen on January 31, 2021, 09:06:04 PM
Looks impressive Nick. Best wishes for the game.

Cheers,
Helen
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Post by: Roo on January 31, 2021, 09:33:15 PM
Nice set up and good to see them being used for their intended purpose.  Great project that keeps on giving!
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Post by: Bloggard on February 03, 2021, 11:29:11 AM
great, 'proper' looking, traditional layout.
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Post by: NurgleHH on February 03, 2021, 09:53:57 PM
Great board, but I expected some news from your Campaign in the Perry-Catacombs? Is it still alive and only in a pandemonium break???
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Post by: nicknorthstar on February 03, 2021, 10:07:23 PM
It's not moved for a year due to Covid-19. Have you followed it so far on the Perry Mins Facebook page?

It's been so long I'll need a proper refresher to try and recall our strategies.
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Post by: NurgleHH on February 05, 2021, 08:23:40 PM
It's not moved for a year due to Covid-19. Have you followed it so far on the Perry Mins Facebook page?

It's been so long I'll need a proper refresher to try and recall our strategies.
Yes I followed so far. Maybe you should try it via Video in c19-times. Jaye from Wiley Games made so great Online Games. After this Pandemic you can return this campaign
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Post by: nicknorthstar on February 06, 2021, 12:04:07 PM
That's upto the Games master to sort out. Personally I'd not be keen, the campaign is coming to a conclusion, I'd rather play the final big battle face to face with everyone. I haven't seen some of those chaps for a year now.
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Post by: NurgleHH on February 06, 2021, 05:02:20 PM
That's upto the Games master to sort out. Personally I'd not be keen, the campaign is coming to a conclusion, I'd rather play the final big battle face to face with everyone. I haven't seen some of those chaps for a year now.
I know the problem. I also miss this meeting with friends and play a game. I hope that at the end of the year it will be possible to travel to Britain for our yearly meeting. I meet the guys one and a half year last time. Good chance to paint more stuff  :D ;)
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Post by: nicknorthstar on February 06, 2021, 08:16:14 PM
Yep, get this Pandemic over with. The vaccines should really help, they can't come quick enough for me.

Anyway, I did play Bull Run in North Star's B2B game room.

I changed the table mat to a Geek Villain mat.

This is the initial set up
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Post by: nicknorthstar on February 06, 2021, 08:23:15 PM
The aim of the scenario was to take control of the 4 gun batteries, the winner being the one with the most at the end of 3 hours.

The battle begins with the Union Batteries moving up into close range with the Confederate batteries on the crest of the hill.

They duel it out for 2 turns, and then the first Union troops arrive. In the meantime, the Jackson Brigade move out of the treeline towards the hill crest.

I'd given the Jackson Brigade smoothbore muskets, so their range was only 6". The Union were carrying rifled muskets, with 6" effective range but long range of 16".
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Post by: nicknorthstar on February 06, 2021, 08:44:53 PM
The Union Batteries came off worse, both being knocked out after the artillery exchange. The 1st Minnesota pass through the batteries and open fire on the Reb gun crews, putting one battery out of action.

 The Jackson Brigade crosses the hill crest to engage with the Union infantry. More Union regiments arrive, as does Reb reinforcements on the left flank.

The 33rd Virginia destroy the 11th NY with a roll of 2x 20s and a 17. In the rules this removed 2 of the 4 bases of the regiment, and 3 disorder tokens from a maximum of 5 and 2 morale checks on them. They were swept away, which was a shame because JEB Stuarts cavalry arrived the next turn and could have done the job historically.

We let the Union forces come on quicker than they did historically. If we'd delayed them more, then the battle may have gone more historically as Jackson's Virginians will have dealt with each one/ two piecemeal. As it was, realising their muskets didn't have the range of the Union rifles, the Rebs pulled back just over the crest of the hill to take on the Union advance within effective range. This gave the Union player time to line up his regiments in line, and advance fighting out a more normal ACW battle. The firefight along the line was more or less even, maybe more Union casualties but when the clock hit the 3 hour game end, each side owned their 2 gun batteries so a draw was declared.
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Post by: DintheDin on February 07, 2021, 08:10:53 AM
Comprehensive narration, accompanied by beautiful pics, as always!
Thanks for sharing!
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Post by: nicknorthstar on March 04, 2021, 08:49:46 PM
My Bull Run units are in Wargames Illustrated (Yeah)

Originally they were photographed for an 'unusual military units' theme, but that didn't go ahead. The editor deceided to run with my photos anyway and I wrote up a caption for each.

Followers of this thread will be familiar with my wafflings over these figures already.

This month it's the Rebs, next month the Yanks.

(https://www.northstarfigures.com/images/9/img15349.jpg)