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Title: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: carlos marighela on June 03, 2019, 12:49:12 PM
There have been a number of requests and as my Gringo marines just arrived.

Excuse the shitty iPad photos. The partly finished Empress figures and Gringo versions have been matched as far as I can towards pose type. I only have the first four Empress packs to hand. As you can see the Gringo marines are husky chaps, quite a bit taller and beefier than their Empress brethren. I suspect that difference will mostly disappear under a coat of paint but I suspect I will probably file down the bottom of their bases, which being textured are notably thicker than the Empress ones.

Empress, Gringo Empress, Gringo etc from left to right. You get the picture.
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: carlos marighela on June 03, 2019, 12:51:40 PM
Empress, Gringo, TAG, Eureka. Yes, I need to buy a can of flat varnish.
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: carlos marighela on June 03, 2019, 12:54:31 PM
Cos I can’t resist. Marines with a 1/55 New Ray CH-46.
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on June 03, 2019, 02:00:20 PM
Thank-you for posting these

They look as though you could mix them quite well. I don't mind differences in body sizes.

Is there a noticeable difference in the size of the weapons?
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: carlos marighela on June 03, 2019, 02:20:44 PM
Mick,

Upon close examination the weapons are slightly bigger but you have to look fairly closely, at table top distance I don’t think you would notice. Overall, I think they will work together.
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: Sparrow on June 03, 2019, 02:46:38 PM
Just what I was after - cheers!
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Post by: tomrommel1 on June 03, 2019, 03:07:05 PM
thanks for the comparison
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 03, 2019, 04:02:28 PM
Yes,  thanks for the comparisons.

I now wish I had used the Renedra bases rather than Warlord lipped ones so I could use the Warlord ones for the Gringo's figures.
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: Poiter50 on June 03, 2019, 04:21:47 PM
Is that the Italeri train station they are posed in front of?
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: Marine0846 on June 03, 2019, 05:38:16 PM
Thanks for the photos.
It looks like they will look good on the table together.
Happy about that.
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: traveller on June 03, 2019, 07:38:24 PM
Thanks for the comparisons, very helpful!
The Gringos seems to have more ”movement” to them, I think I need some. Great to see the CH-46 next to the miniatures, that one went directly onto the shopping list  ;D
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: carlos marighela on June 03, 2019, 09:28:58 PM
Is that the Italeri train station they are posed in front of?

Yep. It has gained a bit more battle damage to the original kit though. Easy to do with a plastic kit.
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: Splod on June 03, 2019, 09:39:00 PM
Fantastic. Love your painting efforts so far too.
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: DaveL on June 04, 2019, 06:05:46 PM
A good idea to compare sizes, but could we have a close up picture as I can't make the size difference or detail out - the figures look too far away
Thanks
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: carlos marighela on June 05, 2019, 12:09:11 AM
There are literally pages of close up photos of the two ranges on their respective threads plus others painted far more artfully than mine. The intent was to give height/ bulk comparisons from a gaming distance.
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: Richard MARQUIS on July 07, 2019, 10:30:54 PM
Hello,
I have started a collection of 28mm Vietnam war miniatures and I would like to share with you some size comparison pictures. I consider all these minis compatible and I am sure they will mix well when painted. I have all TAG, BAKER, WestWind, and latest Gringo40s and Empress Miniatures. I have only one Parkfield mini I received with a M113. I target to by some others with FullMetalMiniatures too. I am impressed by the sculpt of all of these miniatures and recommend all of them. Thank you. Regards.
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: Ash on July 08, 2019, 12:14:05 PM
Cool shot, loving the tanks. Can you say L-R which mini is which? I can spot the Empress and Gringo40s, but not sure about the rest. Thanks
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: Richard MARQUIS on July 08, 2019, 12:34:39 PM
So the tanks are the 1/50 Corgi M48 Patton tanks from their Unsung heroes range. Bought on EBay. They are very well detailed.
For the minis: on the first picture, from left to right you have : TheAssaultGroup, Baker Company, WestWind Productions (painted), Empress Miniatures then Gringo40s.
For the second picture, from left to right you have: WestWind Productions, Baker Company, TheAssaultGroup, Gringo40s, WestWind Production, Wargames Illustrated, Empress Miniatures, Parkfield Miniatures and the last two are from Wargames Illustrated.
I find these ranges (TAG, BAker, EMP, G40s and WW) complementary. I will try FullMetaMiniatures soon.
For extra info, the Gage Commando is a Solido 1/50. The 203mm howitzer is a 1/72 DeAgostini (just for the decoration).
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Post by: Curassier on July 08, 2019, 02:24:56 PM
Richard - really helpful - so thank you.
JM
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: traveller on July 08, 2019, 04:44:52 PM
Great! Many thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: Ash on July 08, 2019, 06:26:42 PM
Great, thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: Cypher226 on July 08, 2019, 06:55:01 PM
Thanks for the comparison shots. The Gringos are noticeably bigger imo, but a few mixed in to Empress squads should blend quite nicely 🙂
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: tomrommel1 on July 09, 2019, 06:44:56 AM
Cypher 226, indeed they do! I have both and I just cut off the integral base of the Gringo 40 minis. They fit quite nicely then.
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: carlos marighela on July 09, 2019, 08:54:00 AM
I kept the bases on and to be honest they still don’t stand out. Absolutely within the range of human size difference.
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: Ash on July 09, 2019, 09:54:29 AM
A little bit of variety never hurts, and as Stan Ridgway put it; some are "...an awfully BIG marine".
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on July 09, 2019, 10:28:36 AM
I have both and I just cut off the integral base of the Gringo 40 minis. They fit quite nicely then.
I have used Renedra bases on my Empress USMC, I am hoping that using Warlord lipped will cover any major differences.
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: Richard MARQUIS on July 09, 2019, 05:29:06 PM
Hello, if that can help, here are some other pictures with Gringo40s and Empress Miniatures. I think they will mix well when painted the same style. In my future collection, Gringo40s minis are candidate to represent characters on command bases and would be aside others. I will post other pictures with WestWind, TheAssaultGroup and Baker Company later. So you would have a better panel. Regards,
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: Richard MARQUIS on July 09, 2019, 05:52:58 PM
And with other manufacturers...
I bought all from these manufacturers to get a large variety of poses and to be able to make small dioramas. I think to mix them by similarity of poses. I am quite sure painting all the same style would help to forget their origin. But I understand people could hesitate or are more attracted by a manufacturer's style. Personally, I hesitate to buy Chiltern minis (SHQ now) or Parkfield. But I got the feeling FullMetalMiniatures would mix. Does anybody got some of them?
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: tomrommel1 on July 10, 2019, 06:49:41 AM
really looking good next to each other
Title: Re: Empress/ Gringo Marines size comparisons
Post by: traveller on July 10, 2019, 03:18:13 PM
Wow, great to see all possble options. Who would have thought that the Lead Gods would spoil us like this for Vietnam  :D