Lead Adventure Forum

Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: Rich H on June 07, 2019, 11:14:18 PM

Title: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 07, 2019, 11:14:18 PM
Early WIP
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 08, 2019, 12:33:52 AM
Excellent.

What variants are you going to model?
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 08, 2019, 09:34:37 AM
From what I've seen the turret with twin MGs saw action in vietnam
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: carlos marighela on June 08, 2019, 09:51:21 AM
From what I've seen the turret with twin MGs saw action in vietnam

The one with the T50 turret and twin MGs was the most common. It saw use with US Army MP battalions and with the ARVN.

The US Air Force had a handful of XM 706s with an open parapet type affair and multiple MGs, usually .50 cal. They used them for base defence. They painted some of them in USAF SEA camouflage.

Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: FreakyFenton on June 10, 2019, 02:40:19 PM
Nice start!  :o
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 11, 2019, 07:44:12 AM
No pics as I forgot but now on with the detailing.

Not 100% but I think it needs LAPD on the side and a nakatomi plaza to drive into...
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: FreakyFenton on June 11, 2019, 05:44:46 PM
Found this book reference wise! https://www.amazon.com/Squadron-Signal-Publications-Cadillac-Commando/dp/B00DPI4GZO

 :D
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 11, 2019, 10:43:01 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Maddoc on June 12, 2019, 12:41:41 PM
Finished it yet?  :D
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 15, 2019, 11:01:51 PM
I think so...
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 16, 2019, 08:14:00 AM
Improved the tyres, calling it done now
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 16, 2019, 10:04:46 AM
Nice work.

Are you going to do the 150 as well?

Not sure who used that. I have the Osprey book somewhere.
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 16, 2019, 10:11:55 AM
Not planning to, don't think it was used in Vietnam....  Wiki says 150 was Saudi National Guard?
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: carlos marighela on June 16, 2019, 11:00:51 AM
Looks the business!

You might want to consider doing the modern M117 variant. They saw quite a bit of use in Iraq. Not sure how much work there is beyond a new turret.
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 16, 2019, 11:45:47 AM
Quite a lot: the hull would need reworking, new wheels, new turret...  so lots of effort!
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: FreakyFenton on June 16, 2019, 12:31:31 PM
Where will it be available?  ???
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 16, 2019, 12:46:33 PM
It's a secret for now ;)
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 16, 2019, 04:42:46 PM
[edit] Note to self;  ensure you do click post and not return a number of hours later to discover it had not posted. ...

Not planning to, don't think it was used in Vietnam....  Wiki says 150 was Saudi National Guard?
Finally dug out the Osprey book.
The V150 is post 1969 and is based on a combination of the V100 and V200. I suspect it might look at first glance like a V100 with a big turret, but I suspect would be a redesign.

Plus, as you say - not fielded in Vietnam.

They do seem to have got about.

I blame too much Morrow Project, apologies.
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 16, 2019, 08:35:57 PM
Thanks for checking!

Printing the hull now.  3 of the wheels have failed already... not looking good for the hull!  4 hours to go...
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 17, 2019, 07:17:00 AM
First print failed. I was trying to be too clever.

Second print looks like it might be ok. Draining now...
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: carlos marighela on June 17, 2019, 09:55:38 AM
Looks good. Fascinating to get a glimpse of the process. Cheers!
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 17, 2019, 12:19:01 PM
Can get more pics of the process (and fialures - plenty of them too!) if you are interested.

In essence it's a mobile phone screen in the bottom with a UV LED under it and a vat of UV hardening resin on top.
The build plate is lowered down so it almost touches the screen and there is a thin film of resin between the plate and the screen
The screen acts as a mask for the uv and the uv hardens the film of resin which hopefully sticks to the build plate....
The build plate them pulls the film off the screen then lowers again slightly further from the screen and allows more resin in.
Then repeat the process to build up the layers.

Lots of things to go wrong...

After printing (as aobve) the excess resin needs to be washed off with IPA and the whole thing post-cured in UV (or in the sun) to fully harden the resin.  It comes off the machine part cured so it's still soft.  Fully cured it will be hard but unless painted it will over cure with exposure to sun and become brittle.
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 17, 2019, 12:20:41 PM
Oh and for reference the doors on the side of the hull are 0.3mm thick.  The springs in the door hinges are pretty tiny but still print OK!
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 17, 2019, 04:16:08 PM
I assume that is isopropyl alcohol and not India Pale Ale ^___^.

Fascinating process (if you are not doing the printing and standing there with your fingers crossed).

It is one of those things that looks better in time-lapse.
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 17, 2019, 04:22:41 PM
Not stood watching!

This one took 4+ hours, a full build plate taked around 8-10 depending on settings.
But that is a 0.05mm layers.  It'll go down usefully to 0.02 but obviously that masively increases the time!  It also massively increase the file size which itself slows all the processing down too.
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 18, 2019, 09:38:40 PM
Prototype done.  Some issues but mk2 printing now
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 18, 2019, 09:39:33 PM
Close up.  Lines on the hull sides are unacceptable
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 18, 2019, 09:44:43 PM
Bits
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 18, 2019, 09:58:46 PM
Bits
?
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 19, 2019, 06:37:20 AM
lol pic failed...I'll try again. 
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 19, 2019, 07:11:35 AM
Reprint

You can see the lines but a wipe with a finger almost removes them.  Layers are 0.05mm
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on June 19, 2019, 07:35:05 AM
Bigger pic.  Note how angling the print changes the number of layers intersecting each face.  More layers gives a smoother result generally.
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on June 19, 2019, 08:57:01 AM
It is interesting to see how it works.
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on July 16, 2019, 12:11:37 PM
I've since upgraded the printer and the z-wobble is now much reduced.  I'll reprint this when I get a chance.

Going to Empress as a master by the way ;)
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on July 16, 2019, 01:30:10 PM
Going to Empress as a master by the way ;)
Going to need a bigger bag at Colours....
^__^
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: FreakyFenton on July 16, 2019, 07:10:22 PM
I've since upgraded the printer and the z-wobble is now much reduced.  I'll reprint this when I get a chance.

Going to Empress as a master by the way ;)

Cool!  :D
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Rich H on August 21, 2019, 08:00:27 AM
Now with Empress for manufacture
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on August 21, 2019, 08:59:28 AM
Exciting or what? Really lovely model.  :-*
Title: Re: Gage Commando
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on August 21, 2019, 08:09:39 PM
Excellent.