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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: Suetonius Paullinus on June 11, 2019, 12:24:35 AM
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New from Tiny:
(https://i.ibb.co/2y3j1mQ/5-A916635-3-BB4-4040-8-FDA-A5-F1-CF2-F3-DFC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Qfv63zR)
Cheers
Andy
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Ooh! Shiny :)
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Looks good! A bit cheaper than the arguably more detailed but more expensive Gaso.line 1/48version. I think I want one of those. Any idea as to whether they plan on doing an actual Soviet-Afghan/ Chechnya up-armoured version?
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Excellent, just picked up a pair of these for my Chechen force.
Russians go home!!!
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Oh my, that's gorgeous.
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Looks good! A bit cheaper than the arguably more detailed but more expensive Gaso.line 1/48version. I think I want one of those. Any idea as to whether they plan on doing an actual Soviet-Afghan/ Chechnya up-armoured version?
To be fair you don't need to have them up-armoured for Chechnya/North Caucasus campaigns more generally. Even as late as the Second Chechen War they went in without ERA, and it didn't make much difference as a lot of the time the canisters were empty due to neglect/pilfering anyways.
(Also cracking paintjob!)
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I think Carlos refers to the BDD armor rather than the ERA blocks.
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The tank looks really nice, perfect for those (many) Chechen AT teams...
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I think Carlos refers to the BDD armor rather than the ERA blocks.
Ah my mistake, either way the TTM model works perfectly for Chechnya.
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I think Carlos refers to the BDD armor rather than the ERA blocks.
Indeed. There were also quite a number in both conflicts fitted with slat/bar armour.
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Not sure if there any plans for additional armour tbh.
Still perfectly alright for Chechnya and Afghanistan I would have thought.
(https://i.ibb.co/VmqhVRN/971245-E5-FA88-4-B02-BDBB-EB9-EFAA8-CACF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RyDM2fS)
In any case it’s a beauty imho 8)
Cheers
Andy
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Lovely paint job. I have couple on order for my first Chechen war internal troops. As said they were used out of the box . I think by second Chechen war and up to Georgia in 2008 there were more commonly up armoured examples
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just to clarify....
there is no out of the box... despite the fact that ate least one soviet tank was shipped in a box... (the T-34 in the IWM, was shipped in a box...!). T-62 and -62A no armor, then you have the -62M with the BDD and different engines. Then you have the various modification kits around. the ERA is an applique.
Basically it goes down to plenty of manufacturers forgetting to version-label their models... o_o
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Lovely paint job Andy.
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just to clarify....
there is no out of the box... despite the fact that ate least one soviet tank was shipped in a box... (the T-34 in the IWM, was shipped in a box...!). T-62 and -62A no armor, then you have the -62M with the BDD and different engines. Then you have the various modification kits around. the ERA is an applique.
Basically it goes down to plenty of manufacturers forgetting to version-label their models... o_o
I meant without BDD ERA , skirts and so on :D
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Different armour kits could come as their own products, however after market parts aren't really a trend with modern miniatures manufacturers. They'll sell the base vehicle and its up to you to do what you want with it. If there's a demand - and the market's shown there's not historically - a third party could create one.
I just made a set of ERA bricks myself. Just the same part stuck in a mould and duplicated a few dozen times. It does for field modified vehicles.
Most wargamers won't convert their own vehicles however. For them it then falls into the two categories of people who want these specific variants, and those who would make do. The later I believe is the majority of gamers. Its already a fraction who'd buy this kit. And less so the amount who actually know about which variant is applicable to which theatre. You see plenty of people using whatever's available and not caring if its correct or not. Given that, manufacturers may not see the point in selling these after market kits.
It could be argued that a limited number of customers may not matter, given all the upgrade kits available in other scales. But there isn't really the culture in 1/50th to work from. Nor well, in my own experience, do people seem to care much when you convert or make something from scratch. The reaction's much the same as if you were just doing up the base kit.
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Either way, I think its a great looking model, regardless of whether or not it has the historical upgrades or not
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Great looking model.
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Not sure if there any plans for additional armour tbh.
Still perfectly alright for Chechnya and Afghanistan I would have thought.
(https://i.ibb.co/VmqhVRN/971245-E5-FA88-4-B02-BDBB-EB9-EFAA8-CACF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RyDM2fS)
In any case it’s a beauty imho 8)
Cheers
Andy
Indeed it is. They’ve got the fume extractor wrong but that’s nitpicking. I’ll add it to my shopping list.
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Very nice job. Did the Russians use any camouflaged tank during one of the wars in Chechnya?
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Very nice job. Did the Russians use any camouflaged tank during one of the wars in Chechnya?
In terms of paintjobs? Yes, the middle pic I posted on the previous page is an interior troops T62 during the fighting against Khattab and Basayev's IIPB in the Chechen-Dagestani border region and has a rough three tone camo scheme (slightly clearer pic below) and like most things throughout the 1994-2000 period it was fairly ad hoc so there's room for artistic licence.
That being said the bulk of vehicles were still in original Soviet colours (green all over), and the main disruptive scheme that emerged later was the three tone sand-black-green one seen below on the bottom pic of the T90 on parade.
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My version for Afghanistan:
(https://i.ibb.co/M2qqCRq/A8-D8-F4-F3-8-DDE-410-F-8622-2-D81-FD3-C5468.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VjXXqvX)
Cheers
Andy
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My 3 T-62s arrived today and they are bloody awesome models!!! :-*
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They sure are!
I’m looking to painting the next one already 8)
(https://i.ibb.co/f0PfDq9/32280-EA3-BA98-4-DFF-9-F57-0-FF58183-C04-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Lp2mNYr)
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That is a lovely paint job bud, could I ask where did you get your decals from?
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Nice.