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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: commander bernhardt on June 21, 2019, 04:57:00 PM

Title: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: commander bernhardt on June 21, 2019, 04:57:00 PM
I'm looking to get into Broken Legions. In time maybe my warbands can grow into a proper historical army. So I'm wondering which miniature lines are available in 28mm scale.
Below I've listed the companies I allready know but I want to know if there are any others out there.
Also if you know any good Celtic auxiliaries or mercenaries, Cartheginians, Macedonian and successors please let me know.

Gripping Beasts blisters and regiment box - late imperial Romans
has a decent rage of late imperial Romans in it's Saga Line
Also has Succesor Kingdoms, Cartheginians and Iberians

Lucid Eye Publications Blisters - Fantasy
Has some Roman-inspired "legionnaries" in it's Atlantean range.

Victrix Regiments - Republican and Early Imperial
Victrix doesn't need an introduction. If you're looking for anything from the ancients, they've got it.

Warlord Games
- Blisters and Regiments - Late republican and Early Imperial
Propably as well known as Victrix but don't ask me which one is better because I have seen neither of them in the flesh. Sells individual sprues as well.

That's it for me for now. Please feel free to share your experiences with these and other ranges.
Cheers!
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on June 21, 2019, 05:19:02 PM
Some more here (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=38197.0) in the Ancient Board's scale comparison.
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: Skyven on June 21, 2019, 05:26:28 PM
Footsore have Late Roman/Romano-British/Early Byzantine (https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/late-roman-romano-british-early-byzantine)
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: Inkpaduta on June 21, 2019, 06:09:36 PM
Commander,

Foundry has a very wide and good range of 28mm Roman soldiers from Republic thru Imperial.
Irregular also does Romans but they may be smaller?

Foundy also does Celtic British.

Brigade Models has their line called Celtos. It is Celtic fantasy with over 250 different figures

Alternative Army has Erin:Celtic Myth.

Was just wondering, how do you find the rules for broken Legions? I was all interested in doing Broken Legions but was turned off by the
negative reviews on how slow the game played among other things.

Thanks
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: commander bernhardt on June 22, 2019, 07:56:33 AM
Thanks all for the responses.

Mad Doc Morris, that threat is really usefull, shame I missed that. But I'm a bit comfused. Are all those lines so small or are warlord games plastic caesarians just that big?

Ikpaduta, offcourse how could I forget Foundry :) Since I need the romans to compete with my Foundry Myceneans (even though time-wise they re way apart, it's a fantasy game!) i feel silly for not thinking about them :)

I haven't played the game yet, just read the rules and so far I like them. The game mechanics appear to be simple but still challenging enough. A few things weren't clear to me on the first read but a couple of games should clarify that. I've also read about some people use a few house rules to "fix" the game so there"s that.
There is plenty of variety in miracles (spells) and weapons and the warbands are suitably different of each other to create a lot of variety. I've also read that Frostgrave scenarios are easily adapted for this game. All in all I think it fits somewhere between Mordheim (complex rules, lot's of variety) and Frostgrave (simple rules, a bit bland).
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on June 22, 2019, 08:46:20 AM
Aventine Miniatures.

Gorgon Studios, for Etruscans.
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on June 22, 2019, 10:18:27 AM
Are all those lines so small or are warlord games plastic caesarians just that big?

Mark Copplestone's sculpts for Foundry's Late Republican Roman range was, literally, the scale model for Warlord's 'Caesarian' plastic sets. So they are a close match. Just can't really mix them with ranges for other periods. But who would do that anyway? ;)

For Early to Mid Republican or 'Polybian' Romans there's also Agema with two plastic sets and a couple of extras in metal. More slender than Victrix and less 'cartoony' than Aventine (sorry @Adam & Keith, love your miniatures!), bit limited in poses and equipment, but very nice. I'll add a comparison shot at some point.
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on June 22, 2019, 01:55:44 PM
Armorum & Aquila Miniatures and Crusader Miniatures also have ranges of Romans (in metal)
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: Pattus Magnus on June 22, 2019, 02:15:13 PM
Newline Designs have several 28mm Roman ranges. I don’t have any of their Romans, but I do have some ancient Greeks, which are on the small end of the 28mm scale.

Black Tree Designs sell Early Imperial Romans. Those are big fellows.

Also, Relic Miniatures has a fairly extensive range of Polybian Romans. They’re quite nice figures, IMO, with relatively realistic (slim) proportions and crisp details. They also have a range of Greek mythology figures, which overlaps with Roman mythology, of course.

There is certainly no shortage of manufacturers making Romans!
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on June 22, 2019, 02:58:48 PM
I wrote a series of posts for my – now defunct – painting blog on the history of the Roman centurion. This was the line-up:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/39/1034-220619144111.jpeg)
Sorry for the bad quality, only retrieved a couple of photos and meanwhile sold the minis.

Not necessarily representative, but left to right, 5th century BCE to 6th century CE, there are: Gorgon, Aventine, Aventine, Crusader, Foundry (Copplestone), Warlord, Foundry (Perry), Armorum & Aquila, Warlord, Musketeer/Footsore, Crusader.
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: pallard on June 22, 2019, 04:19:15 PM
Hello
Aventine Miniatures Imperials and Armorum and Aquila are the ranges I would suggest for these rules. The main point is they are more or less directly connected to the Mithra cult, which was introduced in the mediterranean area in the late helenistic period but which saw great extension in the roman empire from the second half of the second century onward. The Aventine range would be quite perfect for the period from Marcus Aurelius (maybe say ageing Trajan) to Septimius Severus (beginning of third century) while A&A are made for the third century up to the Diocletianic recovery. You get the full imperial solar cult linked to the Mithra brotherhood in the latter period, while the former offers already large mithraic influence in the military ranks.
If you want to consider later periods then christianity lurks in the imperial hierarchy and occult competition in on the schedule board with Mithra, more and more considered with hostility, which is still quite in the rules spirit. But if you are not representing a specific pagan imperial faction ( such as troops faithfull to Julian the Great) you'll be fighting for the Lamb. That is if you select the imperial army list.
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: pallard on June 22, 2019, 04:25:33 PM
Mad Dog
What an impressive journey into roman officers history! Magnifique!
Philippe
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: AdamPHayes on June 22, 2019, 10:39:14 PM
1st Corps do a large range of really good Celts / Gauls including some armoured foot who might work well as mercenaries. They also have three ranges of Romans: Early and Late Republicans and Late Imperial Romans.

I did some comparison pics for Punic Wars Romans a while back, which you can find here (https://wargamewarrior.webs.com/apps/blog/show/42484664-republican-roman-comparison)
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: Danger Close Miniatures on June 23, 2019, 08:05:30 AM
I'll second 1st Corps, I have early imperial Roman, British and Slave revolt (Spartacus) armies from them. Lovely figures and the metal is quality stuff.
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: commander bernhardt on June 23, 2019, 09:20:37 AM
Thanks for all the great suggestions. At the moment I'm torn between Aventine, Black Tree Design and Foundry.
They all have models I like more and models I like less, difficult choice :)
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: Storm Wolf on June 23, 2019, 10:45:19 AM
I'll second 1st Corps, I have early imperial Roman, British and Slave revolt (Spartacus) armies from them. Lovely figures and the metal is quality stuff.

No, I'm Sparticus!

Sorry couldn't resist lol
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on June 23, 2019, 12:00:15 PM
At the moment I'm torn between Aventine, Black Tree Design and Foundry. They all have models I like more and models I like less, difficult choice

Aventine offers first-class service, and they may even let you pick just the models you want from a given pack. Also, casts are always crisp and clean, so highly recommended.
In contrast, BTD is rather hit and miss in that regard. Also, their Early Imperial Roman range looks a bit dated in comparison to, say, Aventine. They are also noticeably bigger than Foundry miniatures for the same period (maybe apart from Steve Saleh's clone trooper sculpts). Thus, Aventine and Foundry won't match either.

Despite the scale issue, for nitpickers, the ranges also cover slightly different periods: Aventine has a focus on mid to late 2nd century CE, while Foundry (both Perry and Saleh sculpts) covers the late 1st to early 2nd century, and BTD is rather generic 1st century.
If you're still on the 'Caesarian' track, it should be Foundry all the way.
Title: Re: Roman Soldiers manufacturers
Post by: MartinD on June 29, 2019, 10:54:11 PM
Newline Designs have several 28mm Roman ranges. I don’t have any of their Romans, but I do have some ancient Greeks, which are on the small end of the 28mm scale.

I got a sample Roman from them ears ago - I assume they're the same as their current range -and it was on the small side, but was very finely and cleanly cast, well-proportioned and generally nice enough. I think there was limited poses of legionnaires, so that would be a problem for a skirmish game like BL.

The Warlord Roman marines in chainmail are nice dynamic figures, but when I get round to BL I'll probably get those Victrix Romans attacking plastic sets myself.