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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: huevans on July 09, 2019, 09:02:44 PM
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Andy Hobday
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•The Barons' Wars•
Many moons ago when I started with Footsore the first project I really, really wanted to do was the Barons' War(s). This is because I have three periods I am mad keen on over everything else which are Samurai (no surprise if you know me), The Norman Conquest (all of it) and The Barons' War(s).
Our very first Footsore project was going to be a game set during the First Barons' War which I am sure would have stretched to include the Second and I got so excited when Paul Hicks agreed to work with us as the sculptor. Fast forward a number of years and because of other projects, it never got off the ground. 😞😢
After recent discussions at Footsore it was agreed between us as a company we are no way closer to funding this project especially with everything we have in the pipeline so the earliest we would probably look at it again would be 2021!
So because I really, really can't wait until then and after talks with Mr Hicks he and I have made the bold decision to make this range ourselves. 😯 (I am sure if I ask nicely Footsore Miniatures & Games will manufacture them).
More news on this range and what we are going to do with it when we have news to share in the meantime here are the first pictures
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They look extremely good, as expected from the Hickster.
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I'm impressed with those. You're not making it easy to not start another project!
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I'm impressed with those. You're not making it easy to not start another project!
We have a Robin Hood project on a back burner >:D
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We have a Robin Hood project on a back burner >:D
Sounds like a lovely idea. Look forward in seeing your project.
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Two words: Albigensian Crusade. 'Nough said.
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Those are great! I really want to put some tankards in the hands of that first lot, lol But seriously like them.
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Very nice looking figures, I will have to be strong to resist!!! :)
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I am sold already . Wonderful figures!!!!
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I surrender. Here’s my wallet and start stretching to the later Baronial Barneys ASAP. :D
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Superb sculps. Like I need more temptation ::)
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I'm impressed with those. You're not making it easy to not start another project!
yeah...... really not easy ;D
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Hmmm.... I wonder if Andy is going to bring in LBMS to do sets of decals / transfers for the barding, shields and surcoats of that lot?!
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Wonderful figures.
They will be a great hit.
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Seriously tempting. I really can't afford to start another project at present though.
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They look wonderful sculpts. Very nice n full of charactor.
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Those are cracking good sculpts. It seems 2 of the archers are still lads. These will be on my list!
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This is great! Paul Hicks is probably one of my favourite sculpters when it comes to medieval miniatures. I love this period (well a bit before but who is paying attention) And if more of the coming miniatures look a bit more like this I will probably have to get quite some of these.
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I'm trying not to think about these.
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Will they be sold by Footsore minis?
What other company out there offer M. Hicks' feudal and/or medieval figures? I know of Claymore casting is there others?
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Great sculpts. Like the cast on shields, trying to glue paper straps ,round a mini's arm and to a separate shield is a real pinta
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New photo.
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Yeh this is going to hurt my wallet.
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Yep, I really only do fantasy but will get these for some sort of good guy faction :)
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Those look lovely, great sense of movement. :-*
Oh and
Two words: Albigensian Crusade. 'Nough said.
That’s now 50% of my reading material and a whole new period opening up. Damn you/thank you sir! lol
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These look brilliant... loads of potential!
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These are some amazing sculpts! :o
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Huh. I didn't know I wanted an early 13th century collection, but here we are.
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Oh dear... I'm trying to stop buying new things Atm! Hopefully they do lots of men at arms/sergeants and suitable crossbow men too ( crossbows feature quite a bit in the first Barons war if I remember what I have read correctly)
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I know it's probably an odd thing to focus on but I really like the swords for a range of reasons.
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Really pretty scuplts! But please stop tempting me to a new period lol
Also doesnt help when people post interesting ideas like "Albigensian Crusade" i had no idea or any interest in that until i looked it up =P
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Those crusades get mentioned in the Grail quest books by Bernard Cornwell I think. The main character is a descendant of one of the Cathar houses.
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My present Barons wars are all Foundry figures. It is going to be heartbreaking to find out these aren't compatible and I am going to have to start again.
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Also doesnt help when people post interesting ideas like "Albigensian Crusade" i had no idea or any interest in that until i looked it up =P
I had almost forgotten about that conflict... ;D ;D
These sculpts look marvelous - will they match well with the Curtey's/1st Corps figures?
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Reinforcements for my Battle of Bouvines armies! Can't wait for these to hit the market. I saw the greens a while back and was afraid that they may not get produced.
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Numerous new photos now on Andy Hobday's FB page, including mounted knights!
https://www.facebook.com/andyhobdaygames/posts/395936457703861?notif_id=1563225005855454¬if_t=page_highlights
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really cool :-*
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Stunning work :-* :-*
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Cracking work!
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Looking good. That one 2nd from right is clearly a Tom Jones fan, he’s singing “Please release me” ;)
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Brilliant! Utterly brilliant!
(I appreciate how much work is going into this so hesitate to ask but..... any plans for Mounted Sergeants to support the knights?)
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Seriously tempting. I really can't afford to start another project at present though.
Neither do I, but who am I kidding? I know I will fell into temptation sooner rather than later... I am a simple man with simple tastes: they say "Paul Hicks sculpted..." and I bite.
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Brilliant! Utterly brilliant!
(I appreciate how much work is going into this so hesitate to ask but..... any plans for Mounted Sergeants to support the knights?)
Not sure. We need to see how this goes first! Bowled over with all the positive waves! Thanks guys!
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I will definitely be all in on this range. There is quite a gap in the market for this period. You can’t swing a longsword without hitting crusaders, 100 year war or wotr minis. But minis for this period are few and far between.
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yet again...
Will they be sold by Footsore minis?
What other company out there offer M. Hicks' feudal and/or medieval figures? I know of Claymore casting is there others?
:D
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yet again...
:D
I believe these are paul hicks:
https://antediluvianminiatures.wordpress.com/2018/02/07/shop-historical-range/
and these might not really be historical but they might serve some purpose:
https://www.westfaliaminiatures.com/men-at-arms
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Thanks, the Wars of the Bruce’s figures look nice 8) :-* 8)
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Not sure. We need to see how this goes first! Bowled over with all the positive waves! Thanks guys!
Ok- understood! (I can take a hint! lol)
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Lovely stuff,
Quite excited by the project as I can forge ahead with the Capetian Plantagenet wars from 1180-1230 (The first 100 years war).
Lots of options also for the First Barons wars and the Albigensian crusades, and possibly also crusader wars.
Cheers
Matt
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I'm hoping they'll be compatible with Fireforge's plastics, as I still like my commands to be metal.
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Like the look of these. I guess they are too late to use in 1170s Norman invasion of Ireland? Plus what 28mm figures would you use for the Irish? Regardless, nice figures and on my 'to buy' list!
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Like the look of these. I guess they are too late to use in 1170s Norman invasion of Ireland? Plus what 28mm figures would you use for the Irish? Regardless, nice figures and on my 'to buy' list!
What would the Irish look like at that time?
Footsore makes Dark Ages Irish. Would they have changed much? The elite would presumably be wearing current, or somewhat out of date English armour. But peasants are peasants.
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You might also consider the Perry’s Wars of the Roses Irish or similar. That saffron shirt appears to go back quite a way:
https://albanach.org/the-léine-e9ddd96c35e
While a couple of the figures need a head swap to lose the helmet it looks like the basic 16thC Irishman might not look out of place in the 12tC.
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Antediluvian linked previously in this thread has some Irish, again of the slightly later period; the Islemen wearing basic chainmail with their helmets swapped for something older could work as nobles. Good old chainmail - covers such a long period of time. https://antediluvianminiatures.wordpress.com/2018/02/07/shop-historical-range/
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Many thanks for the responses. Will check out your suggestions!
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I will definitely be all in on this range. There is quite a gap in the market for this period. You can’t swing a longsword without hitting crusaders, 100 year war or wotr minis. But minis for this period are few and far between.
Well said! And I concur :)
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Numerous new photos now on Andy Hobday's FB page, including mounted knights!
https://www.facebook.com/andyhobdaygames/posts/395936457703861?notif_id=1563225005855454¬if_t=page_highlights
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67246306_395935627703944_9178147070609981440_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_oc=AQkhTmxG_0RXaEmVSdt2CpNeKFStl08zxlJsDntMfASxFNqw5l7bC_VjWuhV5a8Y5-E&_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.xx&oh=c5e41f42c355e7f0facb1a2653b4109f&oe=5DB3D6D1)
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Darrell.
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Wonderful models! :o
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https://www.facebook.com/andyhobdaygames/photos/pcb.399122787385228/399122130718627/?type=3&theater
Resin masters made.
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Are you going to do most of the horses as unbarded?
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https://www.facebook.com/andyhobdaygames/photos/pcb.402049477092559/402048567092650/?type=3&theater
New close ups of the resin masters.
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For those who dont have facebook.
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And these.
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They really look amazing.
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So bloomin' tempting!!
If their is an extensive range; enough for a massed battle scenario type thing then I'm in.
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For those who dont have facebook.
Thanks - they look great and yes, hopefully a larger range in the planning - armed peasants/camp followers/general ruffians would be very useful for greenwood outlaws and Cathar heretics ;)
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For those who dont have facebook.
Thanks - I can be incredibly lazy, not having to click a link is already a win in my book. Or indeed not visiting facebook, even though I may have an account.
These really are shaping up to be problematically appealing.
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as mentioned above, they look really amazing.
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Great sculpting :-*
I will be adding these to my Crusade collection.
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Blimey - they’re a bit good!
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For those who dont have facebook.
Thank you Rui, that is very thoughtful of you! I really like these minis :o
cheers Thomas
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Very nice :-* :-* :-*
I think I can use a few of these for my Acre project! :)
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I am really hoping that like the Hoplites, these will also eventually be available in metal.
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I am really hoping that like the Hoplites, these will also eventually be available in metal.
Metal is going to be the primary medium. This was a run specially for me.
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Great minis, full of character.
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Really lovely sculpts guys
Your early kit will really suit Capetian/Plantagenet wars (or first Brexit lol) and first Barons wars, plus Cathar crusades nicely! Be picking up quite a order when they are ready.
Cheers
Matt
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More great stuff. Love it all, I'd second armed peasants/ruffians/sherwood forest outlaw types. That is a group I've always wanted.
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More great stuff. Love it all, I'd second armed peasants/ruffians/sherwood forest outlaw types. That is a group I've always wanted.
Agreed! :D
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And a few more from facebook.
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I am thrilled with this line and happy to get them in metal. Since I have already painted up the giveaway figure pair in the actual First Earl of Pembroke livery, I wall due a bunch of retainers in green and yellow. I am not sure if other figures will end up as Iberians, Italians, or from the Crusader Kingdoms. Possibly a little of all of the above.
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Are you going to do most of the horses as unbarded?
Similar question on my part; are the horses going to be predominantly caparisoned (not barded)? Or a good mix of both with perhaps a choice if possible?
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Outstanding! I love them!
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No, no, no, I just can't, I won't, I will not, my will is unwavering, I've no place to store them anyways, I don't need a new a new project, stop this and get back to work…
Well I'm helpless and will get them anyway.
Absolutely fabulous.
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Want
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I keep looking at these and thinking Edward 1 and the Conquest of Wales? My knowledge of laid-late C13th armour isn’t great... would these work?
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No, no, no, I just can't, I won't, I will not, my will is unwavering, I've no place to store them anyways, I don't need a new a new project, stop this and get back to work…
Well I'm helpless and will get them anyway.
Absolutely fabulous.
I am in the queue right behind you... :-*
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A few more pictures from facebook.
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This is going to disrupt my painting schedule :-*
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These are lovely :-*
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They look fantastic. Do you have a guess as to when mounted might be available?
Thanks - Allen
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I do need all of these figures. I really like the different headgear. I hope we get some shifty foreign mercenaries with crossbows thrown in as well. You know the vile aliens that John Softsword was so fond of.
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Destriers Forward!!
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Lots of great pics, but has there been any information on release time frame and where they will be available?
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Similar question on my part; are the horses going to be predominantly caparisoned (not barded)? Or a good mix of both with perhaps a choice if possible?
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/68253812_411623082801865_3144524670422745088_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_oc=AQn5ncR56CSGU7bZ_AAiedtt3FSm6bNABxFG6VOXQPSzsHJ91p3ZbzLvU2njnplfhsE&_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.xx&oh=9937daf73669301d2d379ea1c6e4f6ea&oe=5DCF3F07)
That answers that question nicely!! 8) 8) 8) :-* :-* :-*
Will there be unbarded horses and 'lesser' mounted men at arms/serjeants too?
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We are going to see how these sell first.
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We are going to see how these sell first.
Any hint at when they will be available Paul?
Any chance of any of any samples hanging around at The Other Partizan?
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In the next couple of months. No samples sadly at Partizan.
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In the next couple of months. No samples sadly at Partizan.
Thanks. I'm very exited about this range.
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Great to see the mounted knights! Looking forward to the release of these.
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https://www.facebook.com/andyhobdaygames/photos/a.352225658741608/414093132554860/?type=3&theater
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Noted in the diary :)
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I am a bit sorry that they are going the Kickstarter route. That is putting me off a bit. Guess I will have to wait and see if the attraction is still there once they will be available in a regular shop.
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I'm the opposite. It makes me more likely to purchase.
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I am a bit sorry that they are going the Kickstarter route. That is putting me off a bit. Guess I will have to wait and see if the attraction is still there once they will be available in a regular shop.
I'm kind of with you on this one as I like to see a range almost complete before I take the plunge. I've been burned too many times by incomplete ranges of miniatures.
Having said that, I *will* be taking the plunge if the range is fairly comprehensive.
Kind Regards
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As an impulse buyer it's now or never for me. Pre-funding may be the only way for small businesses, yet from experience my enthusiam has long faded when the goods finally arrive. :?
I'm a sucker for this period, as testified by earlier ventures in 15 and 28mm when there was significantly less (good) choice. Hence I wish this project best of luck and great success! :)
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As an impulse buyer it's now or never for me.
No such thing as an impulse buyer in wargaming lol lol lol
Kind Regards
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I think I can put in an order by then. Now to work out precisely which conflict I am most interested in using them for ;D
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I'm really interested in this.
How many more miniature packs to be added before the launch? Are you planning any more infantry?
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"Andy Hobday
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The Barons’ War campaign will be a quick one, running just two weeks from September 15 to September 29, 2019. Most of the miniatures are already sculpted, so we expect a very quick turnaround for fulfilment on this, my first crowdfunding campaign. The miniatures will be cast, packed and shipped by Footsore Miniatures & Games, so you’ll receive their usual excellent quality and great service.
Why Kickstarter and not through Footsore?
The Barons' War is a personal project that I am personally funding which is why I am looking for help through crowdfunding. If successful I have lined up Footsore Miniatures & Games to manufacture, pack and ship everyone's pledges as they are a known entity with lots of experience delivering excellent quality and great service. The reason this project is separate to Footsore is their planned release schedule is full until the end of 2020!
When will the miniatures be on general release?
We don't have a plan at the moment for the miniatures after the Kickstarter except they definitely won't be released this year. If well received I'd like to reinvest any profits to finish off a set of rules releasing them along with more miniatures from Paul as soon as we can."
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I made a note to pledge on my calendar. By then I may have even finished reading Louis the French King who Invaded England.
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huevans@
First, thank you for funding this.
The figures are great.
Can't wait for the kick starter.
Am all in for this one. :)
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I remember reading there may be a ruleset coming for this as well
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I remember reading there may be a ruleset coming for this as well
If the figures do well in the Kickstarter, I'm sure we'll get a ruleset eventually. Andy Hobday has said this is one of his favorite periods, so I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to create a ruleset to accompany this great range of miniatures.
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Errr.....
"Andy Hobday
3 hrs · If well received I'd like to reinvest any profits to finish off a set of rules releasing them along with more miniatures from Paul as soon as we can."
:)
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https://www.facebook.com/andyhobdaygames/photos/pcb.418327032131470/418326542131519/?type=3&theater
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Might be the first Kickstarter I subscribe to after a lot of arguing about. But the sculpts are great and it seems like a neat opportunity. :D
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Is the plan to have more mini's sculpted for this project after the kickstarter?
I also hope that the people who get their own mini make them available or that Andy arranges something to help get the mini's out there.
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Is the plan to have more mini's sculpted for this project after the kickstarter?
I also hope that the people who get their own mini make them available or that Andy arranges something to help get the mini's out there.
Agreed. I'm very interested in a comprehensive range; less interested in a small range. I don't mean to be contrary but it's usually large ranges that catch my attention merely because there's much more scope for using the miniatures.
Kind Regards
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It’s the old gamble, if you’re the customer and don’t buy them early on the owner doesn’t make the cash flow to increase the range and there’s only a partial range. If you’re the commissioner you gamble that there will be sufficient interest in the partial first release because you can’t afford to do them all in one go.
........or that Andy arranges something to help get the mini's out there.
I think you’ll find that they are being released post-Kickstarter through Footsore.
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I will pledge this KS, and hopefully that will help to bring a comprehensive range that, in the future, will expand beyond the English coasts and into the Continent. Besides the Baron's War, there is also the Albigensian Crusade, the wars in Spain between Christians and Saracens (and among Christians too! The Pope was forced to threaten Alfonso IX of Leon with ex-communication if he attacked Alfonso VIII de Castilla when the last went to fight the Almohads in 1212). And it wouldn't take too much imagination to use them for the Third and Fourth Crusades, either.
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And it wouldn't take too much imagination to use them for the Third and Fourth Crusades, either.
My main interest in the range is using them for the Third Crusade; it would take a little bit of conversion work but there's no reason that with a little effort this range couldn't be mixed with the Perry (First) Crusade range with head swaps and conversions etc.
EDIT: They will mix well too as many of my older Claymore Castings fit brilliantly with my Perry HYW collection. Mix and match.
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Just to let everyone know all the figures have now been sculpted. So there will minimal fuss to get this KS to the backers, as long as we hit our goals!
Not long now!
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I will be in this one.... great looking sculpts!
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I love these sculpts - Paul Hicks at his best - but know very little about the Medieval period.
I see references to their possible use for the Crusades/Crusader Kingdoms. Could somebody give me a brief bit of a background as to exactly which Crusade they are suitable for and also who would make suitable opponents for them.
I assume the Kickstarter is not gong to include Saracens or whatever. many thanks
Curassier
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I love these sculpts - Paul Hicks at his best - but know very little about the Medieval period.
I see references to their possible use for the Crusades/Crusader Kingdoms. Could somebody give me a brief bit of a background as to exactly which Crusade they are suitable for and also who would make suitable opponents for them.
I assume the Kickstarter is not gong to include Saracens or whatever. many thanks
Curassier
Actually, they are not intended for the Crusades, but for the 1st Baron's War. Succintly, it was a rebellion of English nobility against King John Lackland. The nobles got the Magna Carta from John, but that didn't end the war. King Phillip of France was involved and a French army disembarked in England, siding with the Barons. After John's death in 1216, his son Henry III, ascended to the English throne. Most of the Barons turned against the French and supported Henry. If memory serves me, I think that it was in 1217 (after defeats at Lincoln and at Winchelsea) the French suffered severe losses and were forced to ask for peace and leave England.
There are several conflicts that are contemporary with the 1st Baron's War. The better known are the Albigensian Crusade (1209-1229) and the Fourth Crusade (1204).
Hope it helps!
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Actually, they are not intended for the Crusades, but for the 1st Baron's War. Succintly, it was a rebellion of English nobility against King John Lackland. The nobles got the Magna Carta from John, but that didn't end the war. King Phillip of France was involved and a French army disembarked in England, siding with the Barons. After John's death in 1216, his son Henry III, ascended to the English throne. Most of the Barons turned against the French and supported Henry. If memory serves me, I think that it was in 1217 (after defeats at Lincoln and at Winchelsea) the French suffered severe losses and were forced to ask for peace and leave England.
There are several conflicts that are contemporary with the 1st Baron's War. The better known are the Albigensian Crusade (1209-1229) and the Fourth Crusade (1204).
Hope it helps!
Agreed :)
This being the reason behind why I was talking about using the miniatures in order to convert and head swap some of the Perry First Crusade range into the Third. Some of the helmets on this Baron's War range are great for the higher nobility during the Third Crusade and with a little bit of imagination and effort much of the lesser men at arms and archers could be introduced in the same capacity too.
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If anyone reads Spanish next issue of Desperta Ferro (a Spanish magazine) is about the Albigensian Crusade:
https://www.despertaferro-ediciones.com/revistas-historia-militar/antigua-y-medieval/proximos-numeros/?fbclid=IwAR3yHY4RXd54RCVHW_LlppcU08DkYPLYNarafxTRBdUwGf2P66Q0H77lL7o
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There are several conflicts that are contemporary with the 1st Baron's War. The better known are the Albigensian Crusade (1209-1229) and the Fourth Crusade (1204).
Hope it helps!
There’s also John Lackland’s regular attempts to secure his French possessions inherited through Henry II - basically most of Western France - from 1200 until the battle of Bouvines. A sort of proto-100 years war.
Only 2 days to go :)
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A sort of proto-100 years war.
Very much so. A dynastic struggle for wealth, power and prestige vis a vis the HYW.
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Thanks guys !
Curassier
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Kickstarter is going live tomorrow 5pm! Will post a link when it’s live!
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Agreed :)
This being the reason behind why I was talking about using the miniatures in order to convert and head swap some of the Perry First Crusade range into the Third. Some of the helmets on this Baron's War range are great for the higher nobility during the Third Crusade and with a little bit of imagination and effort much of the lesser men at arms and archers could be introduced in the same capacity too.
Ah! I was scratching my head at your earlier comment, but I do think you're right about the helmets. I've grumbled repeatedly in the past that the typical gendarme in the Third or even Fourth crusade wouldn't have been surcoated. This is going to be a gorgeous range for things between Bouvines and Lewes. I'm definitely backing, and I'll probably paint them to be continental.
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Here’s the link for the Kickstarter!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hobbers/the-barons-war-28mm-medieval-miniatures
5pm GMT!
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Fzûnded within about 45 minutes - well done.
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Well, I pledged... and the KS is going fast. It has taken just a few minutes to get funded and it has already past the 10,000 GBP threshold!
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Yes, backed and that’s looking good. Now digging out old Slingshot articles on the Angevin wars and trying to work out force lists :)
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Over 15,000 £ at this moment. A very successful Kickstarter.
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Just backed-and wow it's going really well.
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. Now digging out old Slingshot articles on the Angevin wars and trying to work out force lists :)
I would be interested in seeing what back issues you find - I do not have them but it would be an incentive to purchase the CD from the SoA ;)
And the KS rolls along - almost £20K as I type...
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Issues 240 to 249 published a PhD thesis on Recruitment and Supply in mid-Angevin Armies - very detailed.
Issue 229 has a short article and Issue 200 has a solo campaign structure that can easily be expanded to multi-player.
The magazine Medieval Warfare devoted issue 1 to ‘The War of Bouvines’ and included details of the battle of Mirebeau in which you can get to rescue Eleanor of Acquitaine.
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Glad to see a normal, solid Kickstarter (by which I mean: no excessive amounts of free stuff or massive discounts, just a nice WIP range with some unlockable extra kits to complete and make availble for purchase) do well.
Best of luck! Figures look great and HVM did a terrific job on the painting (no surprise there).
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I never got a chance to put in a pledge! Family up to visit one day and fully funded the next time I looked!
Congratulations to Andy and Paul and anyone else involved 8).
Very much looking forward to the releases :)
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I never got a chance to put in a pledge! Family up to visit one day and fully funded the next time I looked!
Congratulations to Andy and Paul and anyone else involved 8).
Very much looking forward to the releases :)
You've got 12 days to go before it closes, so there's plenty of time to put a pledge in. It doesn't stop when it reaches the goal, so when the pledged amount reaches the various milestones, additional models are unlocked for release.
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Well thats what i call a successful campaign!
Im not into this period now so im not going to pledge, but its certainly interesting to watch and try to understand what are the elements of a good crowdfunding campaign.
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Gobsmacked! Thank you to everyone who have supported our project! There is a miniature yet to come that is possibly one of my best. Thanks again!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hobbers/the-barons-war-28mm-medieval-miniatures/description
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My main interest in the range is using them for the Third Crusade; it would take a little bit of conversion work but there's no reason that with a little effort this range couldn't be mixed with the Perry (First) Crusade range with head swaps and conversions etc.
EDIT: They will mix well too as many of my older Claymore Castings fit brilliantly with my Perry HYW collection. Mix and match.
If you're going to convert the models, I would recommend you to check out Footsore's Norman range. Paul Hicks has sculpted the models for that range, so you might find it easier to use these figures for your conversions since both ranges had the same sculptor behind them. Here's the link to the Footsore range (hopefully, you find some use to it): https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/normans (https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/normans)
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Issues 240 to 249 published a PhD thesis on Recruitment and Supply in mid-Angevin Armies - very detailed.
Issue 229 has a short article and Issue 200 has a solo campaign structure that can easily be expanded to multi-player.
The magazine Medieval Warfare devoted issue 1 to ‘The War of Bouvines’ and included details of the battle of Mirebeau in which you can get to rescue Eleanor of Acquitaine.
Thank you, sir!
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I never got a chance to put in a pledge! Family up to visit one day and fully funded the next time I looked!
Congratulations to Andy and Paul and anyone else involved 8).
Very much looking forward to the releases :)
As Cubs mentioned, plenty of time. I 'almost' wish I had waited a bit as I did not realize the amount of additional sets ready for release beyond the first groups... I will need to adjust my pledge.
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Think that you can choose whatever packs you want, within the limits of your pledge. Said that I have already increased my pledge twice! lol
And would again if I could think of an use for the Trebuchet and crew... :D
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Backing at 1 for now but will decide what I actually want later. Shipping is quite high for me so I may back out.
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You've got 12 days to go before it closes, so there's plenty of time to put a pledge in. It doesn't stop when it reaches the goal, so when the pledged amount reaches the various milestones, additional models are unlocked for release.
Thanks Cubs. I'm not that familiar with Kickstarter as I've never made a pledge to a particular campaign up to the present time.
I'll put my thinking cap on after reading how it all works :)
If you're going to convert the models, I would recommend you to check out Footsore's Norman range. Paul Hicks has sculpted the models for that range, so you might find it easier to use these figures for your conversions since both ranges had the same sculptor behind them. Here's the link to the Footsore range (hopefully, you find some use to it): https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/normans (https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/normans)
Thanks Siegfried, I'm already very familiar with the range. I already own a large number of Perry First Crusade models so I'll be using mainly a mix of the Barons War and Perry ranges. I also own a huge number of Crusader and some of the newer Foundry models as well so I'm quite well stocked up as far as potential conversions go.
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Thanks Cubs. I'm not that familiar with Kickstarter as I've never made a pledge to a particular campaign up to the present time.
I'll put my thinking cap on after reading how it all works :)
Basically:
1. Hit the ‘Baron’ pledge button marked £1.
2. That opens a pledge page where you can enter the amount of money you want to pay (useful to work out how many packs you want at £5 or £7 beforehand).
3. If another pack you want ie Spearmen 3 becomes unlocked you can go back into that pledge page to increase your pledge.
4. After the campaign closes at 7pm on 29 September you’ll be sent a pledge manager link that allows you to enter in the codes for your chosen packs.
5. And at some point after that you’ll be sent the packs.
Not that I didn’t get puzzled first time I did one :)
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Basically:
1. Hit the ‘Baron’ pledge button marked £1.
2. That opens a pledge page where you can enter the amount of money you want to pay (useful to work out how many packs you want at £5 or £7 beforehand).
3. If another pack you want ie Spearmen 3 becomes unlocked you can go back into that pledge page to increase your pledge.
4. After the campaign closes at 7pm on 29 September you’ll be sent a pledge manager link that allows you to enter in the codes for your chosen packs.
5. And at some point after that you’ll be sent the packs.
Not that I didn’t get puzzled first time I did one :)
Thanks :).
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A separate thread with link would be x100 times better! I almost missed that this had even started. :?
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Only 4 days to go, Knights 3 nearly unlocked and a chance to get this mini:
(https://i.postimg.cc/g0MkLz9X/IMG-1922.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Really looking forward to this :)
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Only 4 days to go, Knights 3 nearly unlocked and a chance to get this mini:
Really looking forward to this :)
The KS has ended and pledges add up well over the £40,000 needed to unlock the Archbishop's model! I think that Andy and Paul have run a very tight and successful Kickstarter: good models, excellent communication and very realistic stretch-goals. Hopefully, delivery will be also on schedule!
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Hi folks,
Is there a definitive release date set for the first packs as of yet?
Or even a vague one?
I'm still all, hot and bothered about getting my mitts on this range ASAP!! :D
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Have you had the pledge manager email? That shows the ordering process for Kickstarter backers and went out Sunday, from the last update it seems half the backers have completed and that the pledge manager will close on 1st November.
I assume that after that the casting steps up and packing starts - the emails all point to delivery before Christmas.
If you are asking when the figures will be available for general retail, I think that depends on Footsore’s release schedule and there’s no definite date on that yet.
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Have you had the pledge manager email? That shows the ordering process for Kickstarter backers and went out Sunday, from the last update it seems half the backers have completed and that the pledge manager will close on 1st November.
I didn't make a pledge so I'm waiting for the actual release date :)[/quote]
If you are asking when the figures will be available for general retail, I think that depends on Footsore’s release schedule and there’s no definite date on that yet.
Ah, I'll have to be a wee bit more patient then :)
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If it all proceeds to plan this will be the fastest Kickstarter I’ve been involved with - but that hasn’t stopped me being impatient for those lovely figures either. I’m consoling myself with some of the Crusader Feudals in the meantime :)
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If it all proceeds to plan this will be the fastest Kickstarter I’ve been involved with - but that hasn’t stopped me being impatient for those lovely figures either. I’m consoling myself with some of the Crusader Feudals in the meantime :)
I'm waiting, this is exactly the sort of range that I've been looking for for a very long time!
I've got late(-ish) Spanish Reconquista plans for them!! ;D 8)
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They should be perfect for Las Navas de Tolosa. The bishop figure would be perfect for Rodrigo Jiménez de Rada.
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They should be perfect for Las Navas de Tolosa. The bishop figure would be perfect for Rodrigo Jiménez de Rada.
That's the idea! It gives me a chance to field a nice unit of The Order of Santiago which would look superb.
At present I'm doing the Battle of Fraga 1132 for Partizan 2020. The "Moors" should be fine for Las Navas de Tolosa with the addition of a number of conversions and the Baron's War range will be spot on for the "Christian" forces. So, given the time, I'll probably do Las Navas de Tolosa at The Other Partizan or failing that Partizan 2021.
To say that I'm excited about this range is a huge understatement! :o ;D :D o_o
I've got a bog Italian Wars demo in the pipeline too but that requires much more painting so that might have to run concurrently to the Reconquista projects.