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Miniatures Adventure => Age of the Big Battalions => Topic started by: matakishi on June 27, 2009, 12:04:16 PM
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I'll be doing this over the summer break (I hope) but I thought I'd get the ball rolling since most of the figures have arrived :)
(http://www.matakishi.com/Napoleonic%20figures%20unpainted%201%20600.jpg)
(http://www.matakishi.com/Napoleonic%20figures%20unpainted%202%20600.jpg)
Relative sizes:
(http://www.matakishi.com/Napoleonic%20figures%20unpainted%203%20600.jpg)
Figures are from Front Rank, Britannia and Chiltern mainly, details are on my site here:
http://www.matakishi.com/napoleonicproject.htm
Rules, buildings etc will follow in due course...
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A wonderful project. I shall look forward to seing this one come together. :)
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Yes Matakishi
It is a very beautiful project!
Looking forward for the photos of the project!
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Iam sure your finnished project encourageous me to start napoleonic skirmish as well !
Björn
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Iam sure your finnished project encourageous me to start napoleonic skirmish as well !
Björn
Me too, I was thinking the same thing. :)
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Iam sure your finnished project encourageous me to start napoleonic skirmish as well !
Björn
Me too, I was thinking the same thing. :)
again me too!
(I didn't mention it earlier, since I wanted to avoid it, if I am addicted to Napoleonics, I wouldn;t stop and I have not enough time and money to afford it )
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That's done it.
First I'd read a handful of the Sharpe books.
Then I got a copy of a grand little reference book Officers and Soldiers of The French Imperial Guard: 1 - The Foot Soldiers, 1804-1815 (published by Histoire & Collections, this French book (with English text) is in Osprey size but at least twoce as thick, and is jam-packed with pics of uniforms, right down to the Jingling Johnnies (in oriental gear, in some cases) - splendid show!
Then Osprey - Toulon 1793
Followed by Conan Doyle's Exploits and Adventures of Brigadier Gerard (grand bit of tall tale-telling).
And finally (and still being read) Dumas' recently rediscovered 'The Last Chevalier' (you even get tigers, or so I'm told!).
And the latter two books are perhaps even better-suited to small skirmish scenarios than Sharpe!
And now this. I'm ruined!
PS there's also a local re-enactment group with local militia vs the French....
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I love the way that you are disciplined and focussed with your new projects. Getting all the figures ready and then starting is far more sensible than the shambolic way my projects are usually "organised".
It all seems so easy and logical when other people get it right lol
Songs of Drums and Shakoes is a very good set of Napoleonic skirmish rules, with Brother Against Brother working well for platoon or company sized games.
I'm sure this will be as much fun to follow as your previous topics! As ever, I look forward to watching your progress :)
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I forgot the ship :)
(http://www.matakishi.com/Napoleonic%20ship%20preview%201%20600.jpg)
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Sacré bleau!
:o
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Now you're just showing off! lol
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Ok, that really is showing off.
How do the Song of drums and shako rules work? I've played SBH and MDRG, and liked them both for what they set out to do. Are they really as nice as they ought to be?
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Dammit, I just bought Drums and Shakos and was thinking nice rules, but I can't really be faffed with all that frogging and historical accuracy.
Well, now, maybe I can.
You have a lot to answer for, mister.
Bloody nice ship, by the way. Very impressive. Where did you find it?
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bloody hell! even with unpainted lead your articles make me want to start painting! :)
just one one question: how do you make your orders to Britannia? do the prices they send you by e-mail already include the postage? I assume they work rather nice because your mogadishu project already included minis from them ...
I really like their miniatures but the ordering system is a bit outdated for todays standards...
just to add: I'm really looking forward to see the end result! :)
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Every type of gaming, even Napoleonics (ha ha), can be fun as long as one doesn't get bogged down in complex rules and being "accurate" - just my 2 cents
Can't wait to see what you do with them Matakishi
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Well chosen bunch of miniatures there. Tried myself at Napoleonic skirmishing (as can be seen here on the forum), but I'm sure you will simply trivialise my humble efforts. This little yacht alone is outstanding! :-*
However, I'm really looking forward to see this project finished no sooner as it has begun.
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I'm guessing you're going to be using Flintloque rules then (I should've read your website first!). I've never even seen flintloque in action, how do they compare to other rulessets?
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The ship is hand made from wood and I bought it for a small fee off eBay. It is off-scale, the wheel is perfect fro 28mm figures as are the ratlines, the guns are just about passable but a little small but the decks are too close together for figures to fit (if you had access to them, which you don't). I plan to use it for scenery along a quayside for boat-borne attacks on supply warehouses and similar tings.
I do want to do some naval stuff, I have the Limeys and Slimeys rules which are great, but I will make or buy simplified wargaming ships for that which have minimal rigging to get in the way etc. This isn't part of the project and will (may) be tacked on as a separate project at a later date.
@ meninobesta Ordering from Britannia is straight forward if, as you rightly point out, somewhat backwards for the 21st Century. You send a list of what you want and Dave sends a Paypal invoice of the total cost. Postage is 10% with orders over £50 free (I think, it's something like this anyway, I usually buy too much to pay any postage). Dave is also good at answering any questions you might have.
I am using the Guernsey Foundry (now Wargames Foundry) black powder skirmish rules that had no name originally and are (were) available for free on the Wargames Foundry website. They are similar to their western 'rules with no name' as far as the activation parts go but the firing is different and very clever. Having skimmed through my copy of Song of Drums and Shakos I'm sure they'll work just fine too. However, to begin with, I'll be using the old rules that I'm familiar with.
Originally, when I had a shop, Flintloque inspired many of us to paint Napoleonic armies (albeit with odd creatures in the uniforms) but after trying the rules we found them not to be to our liking so started using the GF rules instead. We got many of our young customers playing Napoleonics this way without them even noticing lol
I have just ordered a figure which is going to be Brigadier Gerard from Front Rank, he was always on my list.
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I have just ordered a figure which is going to be Brigadier Gerard from Front Rank, he was always on my list.
As Mad Carew Sr rightly says, he's the only way to play Naps with fun !!!
Very inspiring project, Paul, and this boat, what a beauty !
meow,
Matt
@ Vanvlak : Don't you ever read Horatio Hornblower adventures yet ? You're doomed if not :D
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I have just ordered a figure which is going to be Brigadier Gerard from Front Rank, he was always on my list.
always fancy Brigadier Gerard, which figure will you use?
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@ Vanvlak : Don't you ever read Horatio Hornblower adventures yet ? You're doomed if not :D
Nope - not yet - and that's a good thing, I still have something to look forward too :D
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You should have a look at the Sharp Practice rules - excellent for Napoleonic Skirmish with heroic characters.
If you look at the Too Fat Lardies Yahoo Group there are a number of AAR write ups.
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I have the lardies rules, they require too many figures for what I want.
I'm using a Front Rank Hussar for Gerard.
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Thanks Matakishi! :)
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I have the lardies rules, they require too many figures for what I want.
I'm using a Front Rank Hussar for Gerard.
Brigadier Gerard! I read those stories whilst at school and really enjoyed them. I'd completely forgotten about him.
Odd that they were the first Arthur Conan Doyle stories I ever read, despite loving the old Basil Rathbone "Sherlock Holmes" films. ::)
I'm sure he will be a lot of fun to use in skirmish games!
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I am using the Guernsey Foundry (now Wargames Foundry) black powder skirmish rules that had no name originally and are (were) available for free on the Wargames Foundry website. They are similar to their western 'rules with no name' as far as the activation parts go but the firing is different and very clever.
Sounds very interesting. I have the original wild west rules from the Foundry web site, how does their black powder shooting work?
Pat
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From the rules:
The Fate Deck is used to determine which character takes a turn, and which characters load their
weapons. The players take it in turn to draw a card (or chit or whatever), then:
If it is a character card, that character takes a turn, and the card is placed on the discard pile.
If it is an action card then it is display face up on the table: The next player to draw a character card
of a class at least as high as that of a displayed action card can keep it in his hand until he decides to
use it to give a free turn to any of his characters of a class at least as high as that on the card at any
time; even part way through someone else’s turn. He can pick up any number of action cards
simultaneously.
If it is the reload card, it is placed face up on the table.
If it is a character’s firing card, then, only if the reload card is face up on the table ,the firing card is
passed to the appropriate character’s player. Otherwise, the firing card is discarded. It is up to the
drawing player whether he reveals which character’s card this was. This introduces an element of
tension, as often it is not possible to tell which characters have their weapons loaded.
Characters who are charging, seriously wounded, knocked down, knocked out or mounted never
receive their firing card however.
Like action cards, firing cards are taken into the players hand, and can be used at any time to take a
shot, the firing card is then discarded.
Characters armed with multiple firearms have a firing card for each.
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I have great memories of these Flintloque games, With my brave but foolhardy African Hobbits. Great set of rules will be using these with my Mountain Men if I ever get them finished!
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Brigadier Gerard! I read those stories whilst at school and really enjoyed them. I'd completely forgotten about him.
Odd that they were the first Arthur Conan Doyle stories I ever read, despite loving the old Basil Rathbone "Sherlock Holmes" films. ::)
Me too :)
I loved those stories. My father managed to find me a nice old copy of the Adventures and expoits of Brigadier Gerrard whic had some lovely old black and white plates showing scenes from the stories. They are very reminicent of the Strand Sherlock Holmes drawyings. I still have the book. :D
This is a great project, I am so looking forward to seeing the results of your labours.
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Ha lol I'd forgotten about your stoned hobbits Simon!
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Here are the Perry Miniatures (2 were missing)
(http://www.matakishi.com/Napoleonics%20unpainted%204%20600.jpg)
Isn't this fun :)
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From the rules:
If it is a character’s firing card[/b], then, only if the reload card is face up on the table ,the firing card is
passed to the appropriate character’s player. Otherwise, the firing card is discarded. It is up to the
drawing player whether he reveals which character’s card this was. This introduces an element of
tension, as often it is not possible to tell which characters have their weapons loaded.
Characters who are charging, seriously wounded, knocked down, knocked out or mounted never
receive their firing card however.
Like action cards, firing cards are taken into the players hand, and can be used at any time to take a
shot, the firing card is then discarded.
Characters armed with multiple firearms have a firing card for each.
Thanks for the information. Is it the normal 6s to hit used in the other Foundry skirmish systems?
Pat
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4-6, draw a card/chit for effect.
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Last lot of the planned purchases. More cavalry will be added after everything's done and probably a gun or two as well.
(http://www.matakishi.com/Napoleonic%20unpainted%20cavalry%201%20600.jpg)
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Last lot of the planned purchases. More cavalry will be added after everything's done and probably a gun or two as well.
(http://www.matakishi.com/Napoleonic%20unpainted%20cavalry%201%20600.jpg)
Picton! Splendid chap and one of my Napoleonic heroes. I can't wait to see how you fit him into a skirmish :)
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The Gerard model is a perfect choice 8) 8) 8)
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Matakishi !
I would like to inform you about a great book about the 95th Rifles and there campaigns. The book is a good read and gives you lots of information as well as many scenario ideas. It is also very exciting. It is not just plain written as a history book. The authors style makes you feel you joined the Rifles.
Here is one review.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2004/jan/03/history
Björn
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh!! I read that just recently, it has been the cause of many riflemen purchases!! A rivetting read.
Matakishi !
I would like to inform you about a great book about the 95th Rifles and there campaigns. The book is a good read and gives you lots of information as well as many scenario ideas. It is also very exciting. It is not just plain written as a history book. The authors style makes you feel you joined the Rifles.
Here is one review.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2004/jan/03/history
Björn
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Matakishi !
I would like to inform you about a great book about the 95th Rifles and there campaigns. The book is a good read and gives you lots of information as well as many scenario ideas. It is also very exciting. It is not just plain written as a history book. The authors style makes you feel you joined the Rifles.
Here is one review.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2004/jan/03/history
Björn
I agree, it's a very good read. Well worth getting if you are a Napoleonics fan.
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Mark Urban's book on the Rifles is indeed an excellent read, but I have to say that I enjoyed his "Fusiliers" even more.
http://www.amazon.com/Fusiliers-British-Regiment-American-Revolution/dp/0802716881/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246644520&sr=8-1
(Amazon link is to the U.S. edition)
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Mark Urban's book on the Rifles is indeed an excellent read, but I have to say that I enjoyed his "Fusiliers" even more.
http://www.amazon.com/Fusiliers-British-Regiment-American-Revolution/dp/0802716881/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246644520&sr=8-1
(Amazon link is to the U.S. edition)
I recently had his newish book "Generals" and although I haven't had a chance toread it properly yet, it looks good too.
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Driscoles;
Thanks for the heads up. I haven't read that book and didn't even know of its existence until now. That would make a fine Christmas gift for me...now I'll have to convince my wife.
Regards,
Hitman
8)
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I just went upstairs and here are a couple more little gems:
1) Captain Of The 95th (rifles) by Jonathan Lean
2) Bugler & Officer of the Rifles-With the 95th Rifles During the Peninsular & Waterloo Campaigns of the Napoleonic Wars by William Green
I have both and quite enjoyed reading them. They have some great ideas!!
Regards,
Hitman
8)
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I bought and read the Rifles book by Mark Urban, I've also re-watched all my Sharpe and Hornblower dvds along with my other Napoleonic films :)
Also, I've painted the first unit, some French carabiniers.
(http://www.matakishi.com/Carabiniers%20painted%201%20600.jpg)
(http://www.matakishi.com/Carabiniers%20painted%202%20600.jpg)
Voltiguers are underway...
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Looking good :-*
Nice, bright colors.
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oh vary pretty they are :-*
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I like them, lovely bright colours
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Lovely stuff Paul :)
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Get thee behind me, satan! So tempting, especially as the first miniatures I painted were 1/72 revell and airfix plastic napoleonics.
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Not sure why you say 'Sharp Practice' needs more figures - it appears you have plenty enough figures for playing these rules. The rules cater for using groups of up to 12 figures each, with Big Men to lead one or a number of such Groups. Your first painted group just needs a Big Man to lead them, and you're set!
Roly
(http://www.fusiliers.net/gallery/roly/sp/sharppractice%20forum%20title.gif)
http://sharppractice.11.forumer.com/index.php (http://sharppractice.11.forumer.com/index.php)
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Voltigeurs:
(http://www.matakishi.com/OTHAFA%20Voltigeurs%201%20600.jpg)
I read some scenarios for Sharp Practice and the requirements were for many, many more figures than I want to paint so I decided not to use them. This project is based around wanting to use a particular set of rules that I'm familiar with and like, so that's what I'm going to do. I may branch out in the future of course.
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Matakishi;
If you are interested, PM me as I published and sell a rule set specifically for skirmishing Napoleonics in the Penninsular War which does not require as many figures as Sharp Practise. I also created a scenario supplement which is also available either together or separately. I did a lot of research on small skirmishes and added a number of fictional ones that could have happened in either Portugal or Spain.
Regards,
Hitman
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Nice Voltigeurs
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I read some scenarios for Sharp Practice and the requirements were for many, many more figures than I want to paint so I decided not to use them.
Not that you should turn back now, but the "official" scenarios in the SP scenario supplement are huge IMO. You can enjoy a great game with only @20-30 figures per player.
Fantastic painting on those Frenchies!
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How go's the skirmishers? Were you distracted by some thing shiny?
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I'm currently painting the 16 Riflemen. During the Summer I build stuff (Entebbe, African houses and jungle this year) because I'm off work for 6 weeks. I can paint anytime so I generally wait until term starts again (which it now has). Pictures soon.
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Very inspirational! Great paintwork and basing, as usual from Your Excellency...
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Right, Zulus are finished and I've started watching the Sharpe films with my daughter so it's back to this again to see if I can cope with the bloody straps and buttons.
The man himself:
(http://www.matakishi.com/Napoleonic%2095%20Rifles%201%20600.jpg)
I've painted a British Naval landing party which just needs officers so they'll be along shortly too.
http://www.matakishi.com/napoleonicproject.htm
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A blast from the past
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Those Rifles look great. I have a naval landing party - hey, we could have a game ;)
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Great stuff! I too shall be following.
Mark Urban, incidentally, is a wargamer himself (as far as I know).
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Who's Mark Urban?
You're far to fast Paul and they look great 8)
cheers
James
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Excellent, will we be seeing these in a couple of weeks ??? ;D
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Who's Mark Urban?
I bought and read the Rifles book by Mark Urban, I've also re-watched all my Sharpe and Hornblower dvds along with my other Napoleonic films :)
Currently the diplomatic editor for BBC Newsnight.
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Enlightenment :)
cheers
James
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Your projects and the speed in which you progress them.... :o
Always impressive 8)
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...coincidentally - Mr Urban also happens to be the author of the following excellent read:
Rifles: Six Years with Wellington's Legendary sharpshooters
day I say it...this book may have provided some additional inspiration to this project!!
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He also wrote a book called 'Big Boys Rules' about the dirty war between the Provisional IRA and British special forces in Northern Ireland. This was 20 years ago. Very good account of what went on. Must have been quite young when he wrote it, but you wouldn't know it. I always think he comes across as a bit of an arse on telly, but he's a good writer.
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Not sure I'll have anything ready for next week but here's a British Naval landing party anyway.
(http://www.matakishi.com/Napoleonic%20boats%202%20600.jpg)
(http://www.matakishi.com/Napoleonic%20landing%20party%20British%203%20600.jpg)
(http://www.matakishi.com/Napoleonic%20landing%20party%20British%201%20600.jpg)
(http://www.matakishi.com/Napoleonic%20landing%20party%20British%202%20600.jpg)
(http://www.matakishi.com/Napoleonic%20boats%201%20600.jpg)
Figures by Britannia, guns from Foundry, boats from Minimi.
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I love this project matakishi! I can't wait to see some in-game photos with them.
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It'll be a while, I need to make some peninsula buildings and get a few more french painted before I can have a decent game.