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Title: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: blacksmith on July 27, 2019, 10:56:28 AM
Hi, I'm starting a small force in 28mm and I'd really appreciate if a kind sould could post a comparative shot of WWII plastic grunt from Perrys next to one from Warlords.
Also, if it is not much asking, another pic with those above next to a 1/48 Tamiya's. I know they are bigger than a standard 28mm miniature but wonder how much bigger they are.
TIA,
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: Truscott Trotter on July 27, 2019, 12:08:06 PM
Nothing to do with height all to do with heft and style
I would not mix those three together or even any two of them
YMMV
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: blacksmith on July 27, 2019, 01:13:25 PM
Nothing to do with height all to do with heft and style
I would not mix those three together or even any two of them
YMMV
Thanks for your answer. I'm not going to mix them; I just want to decide which ones to buy to build a force. I think Perrys are slightly smaller or less bulkier than Warlords, or maybe it's just a matter of style as you say, but I'd live to see first a picture of them together to decide wich ones to buy.
Any help in the way of pictures would be much appreciated.
cheers,
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: fred on July 27, 2019, 01:58:15 PM
I have all 3 of these figures, but don’t seem to have a photo of them together.

The perry figures are the smallest, and are quite slender. The 1/48th Tamiya ones are tall, but very slender. The Warlord ones are the more classic wargames style, fairly chunky, and a bit taller than Perry.
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: gamer Mac on July 27, 2019, 02:29:08 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/40/1912-270719142311-40006207.jpeg)
Sorry don't have any Tamiya but this photo is of plastic warlord,two metal warlord and two perry plastic
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: blacksmith on July 27, 2019, 06:36:01 PM
I have all 3 of these figures, but don’t seem to have a photo of them together.

The perry figures are the smallest, and are quite slender. The 1/48th Tamiya ones are tall, but very slender. The Warlord ones are the more classic wargames style, fairly chunky, and a bit taller than Perry.
That's what I supposed, thanks Fred :)
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: blacksmith on July 27, 2019, 06:37:35 PM
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/40/1912-270719142311-40006207.jpeg)
Sorry don't have any Tamiya but this photo is of plastic warlord,two metal warlord and two perry plastic
Thank you very much for the picture. It seems that Perrys are not so slender as I thought and that they can be mixed with Warlords without problem...
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on July 27, 2019, 06:44:22 PM
I do not have a Tamiya !/48 figure, but I do have a North Star one compared with Perry.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ROZnT05UYVs/Wpw6dKjJj3I/AAAAAAAADRM/-1WS1b6ex9E1nzPyjCVaDrIJvnlssrESQCLcBGAs/s1600/projectx-9.png)
The colour of the British infantry is just plain wrong.
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: blacksmith on July 27, 2019, 07:02:33 PM
Which is the Perrys, the brit? Do Northstar sell 28mm WWII? Is the German soldier 1/48?
Thanks for the help
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: blacksmith on July 27, 2019, 07:40:24 PM
Surfing the web I found these two comparative pictures.
(https://mountainsoflead.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/vergleich_pmwg.jpg)
In this picture the Warlord miniature towers over the Perrys so much that I'm not interested in the Perrys for being so small, but...

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LRIZh7z0REI/XMbHMhaw-8I/AAAAAAAAFH4/0tOWWNFFlS4AOY0CWF4gkqySO3vvRYCZACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_4629.png)
In this other picture the first american from left to right is Perrys and the second German or fifth figure is a plastic Warlord. The Perrys looks taller than the Warlords! So right now I don't now what to think. Are the new American infantry taller than the previous DAK box?

I'm interested in buying the Perrys GIs box because it contains more figures and it is cheaper, and also because I don't like very much Warlords plastics, but I wouldn't want my Perrys americans be dwarfed by Warlords opponents, so I still have some doubts about which one to buy...

Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: fred on July 27, 2019, 08:43:19 PM
I suspect that photo shows that there are differences even within ranges from manufacturers. The warlord ranges are both metal and plastic, and of different generations of production in both materials.

I have Warlord Plastic British Airborne and they are much bigger (in height and bulk) than Perry DAK or 8th Army. The 1st Corps British Airborne are bigger than the warlord ones - but not too much so.
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: Ultravanillasmurf on July 27, 2019, 09:35:24 PM
Which is the Perrys, the brit? Do Northstar sell 28mm WWII? Is the German soldier 1/48?
Thanks for the help
The British infantryman is a 1/48 scale North Star, sorry, the German is a Warlord plastic (I had forgotten I had painted some Warlord Early Germans).
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: Truscott Trotter on July 27, 2019, 10:30:08 PM
Thanks for your answer. I'm not going to mix them; I just want to decide which ones to buy to build a force. I think Perrys are slightly smaller or less bulkier than Warlords, or maybe it's just a matter of style as you say, but I'd live to see first a picture of them together to decide wich ones to buy.
Any help in the way of pictures would be much appreciated.
cheers,

Ahh OK I understand so what army are you considering as some ranges do vary in size esp Warlord?

In general Warlord will not look out of place next to most other  ranges where Perrys will look a little small and the Tamiya will look even more out of scale.
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: Shahbahraz on July 27, 2019, 10:52:59 PM
Worth noting in the picture above of the Warlord US Airborne and the Perry DAK, that there is a base depth difference of a boot. The height isn't so different, but the bulk is.
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: moiterei_1984 on July 27, 2019, 11:05:47 PM
As
Surfing the web I found these two comparative pictures.
(https://mountainsoflead.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/vergleich_pmwg.jpg)
In this picture the Warlord miniature towers over the Perrys so much that I'm not interested in the Perrys for being so small, but...

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LRIZh7z0REI/XMbHMhaw-8I/AAAAAAAAFH4/0tOWWNFFlS4AOY0CWF4gkqySO3vvRYCZACLcBGAs/s1600/IMG_4629.png)
In this other picture the first american from left to right is Perrys and the second German or fifth figure is a plastic Warlord. The Perrys looks taller than the Warlords! So right now I don't now what to think. Are the new American infantry taller than the previous DAK box?

I'm interested in buying the Perrys GIs box because it contains more figures and it is cheaper, and also because I don't like very much Warlords plastics, but I wouldn't want my Perrys americans be dwarfed by Warlords opponents, so I still have some doubts about which one to buy...



The second picture above is mine, so here are my 2 cents:

The Perry Americans are bigger than their 8th Army or Germans but just as big as the Warlord figures. The difference in height on the picture comes from the integral plastic base the Perry figures have while the WG ones don‘t. Easy solution would be to just cut them off these bases.
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: blacksmith on July 28, 2019, 01:43:46 AM
If Perrys Americans are bigger than previous DAK and Brits as you say and it is shown in your picture, then I'll buy them because that means they will similar in size to Warlords.
Thank you very much to all of you for your help!
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: Kane on August 18, 2019, 08:40:17 PM
As
The second picture above is mine, so here are my 2 cents:

The Perry Americans are bigger than their 8th Army or Germans but just as big as the Warlord figures. The difference in height on the picture comes from the integral plastic base the Perry figures have while the WG ones don‘t. Easy solution would be to just cut them off these bases.

So Moterei, it isn't an issue to mix and mingle the 2 (Warlord plastic US infantry and Perry US infantry) ?
I'm currently researching to make a larger diorama about the 'Trou du Loup', back in the Ardennes and I basically found out I need several very, very scared prone or kneeling mini's. And Warlord doesn't have prone ones...
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: moiterei_1984 on August 18, 2019, 09:05:20 PM
Personally I wouldn‘t mix them. Weapons and proportions are much more true scale than the Warlord.... offerings. But your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: Kane on August 19, 2019, 12:06:11 PM
I'm looking to make a diorama which might be donated to a museum... So I'd rather go with the right mini's for this. Panthers will be Rubicon.

In such case, what would you advise? Warlord or Perry?
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: MikeRC97 on August 19, 2019, 01:12:47 PM
I have the newer Warlord US infantry and the Perry US infantry and I would say the difference is not the height, it is the...girth, for lack of a better description.  The Perry figures are much slimmer.  Also as has been pointed out the weapons on the Warlord sprue are larger, the Perry M1 carbine looks tiny compared to the one on the Warlord sprue.

In my case I plan on using the Perry figs for Bolt Action HQ and sniper teams so they won’t be mixed in with the Warlord figures that will make up my rifle squads.  I’m a bit more pedantic about my miniatures than most - I suspect most gamers would have no problem mixing the two as the difference is not that noticeable on a tabletop.

I don’t know from what distance your diorama is meant to be viewed but I think you could get always with having a mix if you don’t place the two side by side.
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: Kane on August 19, 2019, 03:16:35 PM
Well, I haven't decided on how big it will look yet, but I'd like to capture the moment Cpl. Wiegand fired his one bazooka shot into the flank of a Panther with which he stopped the entire German second SS Panzer division. There were at least 7 panther tanks bearing down on the men of the 75th, but I'm not going to put'em all in.

Same for the infantry.

So yeah. Stil have some measuring and scaling to do. For some reason I'm thinking of 60cm x 60cm, but I really have to look at it thoroughly. Currently I'm still in the 'which miniatures can I use which may be decently converted'-stage. And in that regard, I think Perry's might be the more viable option with crouching and kneeling poses (which lack in the Warlord box in my opinion).
Title: Re: Need a comparison scale picture of 28mm plastic miniatures
Post by: Eclaireur on August 19, 2019, 04:43:56 PM
I tell what really does work much better than using the Warlord ones - it's the combination of Perry US and the Empress figures. Helmets, weapons, and physique more generally, very similarly scaled, and allows you to mix earlier and later pattern uniforms
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