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Title: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Captain Blood on June 29, 2009, 12:01:51 AM
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Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Mancha on June 29, 2009, 01:44:40 AM
Photo quality wins the day for this one.  Nevertheless, I'd love to see some more shots of those beastmen once the LPL is over.
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastme
Post by: Heldrak on June 29, 2009, 02:10:51 AM
Photo quality wins the day for this one.  Nevertheless, I'd love to see some more shots of those beastmen once the LPL is over.

While Bugs' entry is unquestionably better lit, I do think that Plynkes' entry is better staged/composed... The dimness of Plynkes' entry kind of adds to the claustrophobic, subterranean feel too.
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Vonkluge on June 29, 2009, 02:41:10 AM
Both Great but a bit more fill light is needed in the 2nd entry  :'(
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Sinewgrab on June 29, 2009, 03:36:37 AM
Where is the dubious death worm from? I love it!
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Hammers on June 29, 2009, 06:57:44 AM
Rough match, with these two heavy weights in each corner...
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Plynkes on June 29, 2009, 10:44:52 AM
Hmm. I guess it's a matter of taste but on my monitor the light levels look fine. That's the effect I was going for (gloomy underground temple) and I was totally satisfied with it. The only thing I wasn't satisfied with was the fact that the close-up of Dr. Eberwein is slightly out of focus. But I was tight for time, tired, rushed and too bloody hot to go back and do any more shots! (Believe me, it was not a straightforward process taking those pictures, there was quite some effort and more than a little discomfort involved due to the location of the stones forming the backdrop.) :)

Wonderful entry from Bugsda there. First class effort as always!
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Hitman on June 29, 2009, 11:57:10 AM
Fantastic entries. Figures look awesome!! Too bad the second entry is so dark, it almost hides a fantastic paint job!! Good luck to you both.
Regards,
Hitman
 8)
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Bugsda on June 29, 2009, 11:57:58 AM
Now that is a Death Worm!  :-*
Very atmospheric picture plynkes, I was aiming for lighting like that but bottled out.


Don't know who made my Death Worm Sinewgrab, I was given it by Jason on Steve Dean's forum.
It's old though, maybe Ral Partha or Grenadier ???
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Plynkes on June 29, 2009, 12:17:41 PM
Again with the "so dark?" My eyes or monitor must be wonky. Don't seem all that dark to me, just the amount of dark I wanted. Oh well.   :)


Well, Bugsda will almost certainly win this one, and deservedly so, but I bet my worm would beat your worm in a fight!  :)
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Captain Blood on June 29, 2009, 12:44:49 PM
Plynkes, I think your worm is simply awesome.
(I bet that's what all the girls say)

Honestly, I find Bugsda's worm slightly camp  ;)

Now - please everybody leave Plynkes alone on the gloom front - it's what the man intended, and we don't want him going all crotchety and spoiling the end of the league  lol

(But Plynkes, I know how you feel. Let me tell you about all the comments I get about the whites of my horses' eyes some time...  :D)

Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Vanvlak on June 29, 2009, 12:50:18 PM

Now - please everybody leave Plynkes alone on the gloom front - it's what the man intended, and we don't want him going all crotchety and spoiling the end of the league  lol

(But Plynkes, I know how you feel. Let me tell you about all the comments I get about the whites of my horses' eyes some time...  :D)


Yeah, this is opening a whole can of worms.....  :D  ;)

Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Plynkes on June 29, 2009, 01:20:55 PM
Hee hee. I'll try not to get too crotchety, and I promise not to lie on the ground and hold my breath, or kick my legs and scream either.  lol
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: shadowking1957 on June 29, 2009, 02:12:32 PM
amazing work......
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Bugsda on June 29, 2009, 02:50:24 PM
OK! Plynkes has a bigger worm, but size isn't everything and I've had no complaints so far ::) lol

If it's any consolation, nowadays I seem to spend my life getting my arse kicked by Tom Weiss in on-line painting competitions. lol
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Captain Blood on June 29, 2009, 03:19:45 PM
OK! Plynkes has a bigger worm, but size isn't everything and I've had no complaints so far ::) lol

If it's any consolation, nowadays I seem to spend my life getting my arse kicked by Tom Weiss in on-line painting competitions. lol

Yes I saw  ;)
I was so rooting for your swashbucklers too...
No consolation I know, but he mangled me with his vikings last time out in the SDF quarters, or was it the semis...
Hey ho. What can you do. The man paints stripes like a good'un and takes a mean snap  lol
And now, back to the topic...
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Pil on June 29, 2009, 07:13:52 PM
Both great entries and I'd love to see more of the beastmen, but in the end I'll have to echo Mancha's comments and I went for clear photography.

Plynkes> I like the gloomy look but maybe it would have been better to have the detail shots better lit. That said, my girlfriend wanted you to know that she  :-* your worm (she loves Tremors and all movie versions of Dune)  :D (she made me do the smilies too).
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Grimm on June 29, 2009, 09:40:33 PM
That was realy hard to me guys!


BTW Plynkes
where are the fantastic beastmen comming from ,wich company !


Grimm
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Plynkes on June 29, 2009, 10:07:42 PM
RAFM, from their Space 1889 range. I don't know when RAFM started making them, or if they always did, but they were originally from the GDW game of the same name. The explorers are from the same range (and they match the characters from the "Temple of the Beastmen" boardgame perfectly).
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Hammers on June 29, 2009, 10:34:28 PM
Again with the "so dark?" My eyes or monitor must be wonky. Don't seem all that dark to me, just the amount of dark I wanted. Oh well.   :)


Well, Bugsda will almost certainly win this one, and deservedly so, but I bet my worm would beat your worm in a fight!  :)

I get the 'to dark' to. Not that it mattered, I voted for originality this time.
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Vonkluge on June 30, 2009, 03:37:27 AM
I love the figures, I have them too in various stages of paint.... and indeed Plynkes your entry is well laid out! I realy like the lighting you achieved in the back round and indeed many of our monitors are probably darker then yours. That aside I being a person who actualy makes his "Bread & Cheese" by lighting Movies and TV shows out in hollywood (I know why arent my entries better! no time...) some small pools of better light on the "players" would I think help accentuate and bring out the figures that are blending into the effect to much while still preserving the effect. This can be done as simply as tapeing a flashlight to a second tripod or chair. A cut out cup can be used as a "hood" on the flashlight to make it more "directional" any "WHITE" thin clothe or paper/plastic can also be used as a diffusion to help the harsh shadows.... Hope I'm not rubbing "salt" in the wound? I voted for you anyway...lol! NICE JOB! both OF YOU!  :-*
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Raz on June 30, 2009, 09:25:20 AM
Again two great entries guys! My compliments.

The background and the extra storytelling in the second entry gave it the edge.
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Plynkes on June 30, 2009, 09:31:33 AM
Thanks for the tips, Vonkluge. But I've kind of got into my own style and don't really want to change it at the moment. All my LPL entries this time have been done using just ambient lighting, as a kind of experiment (the back lighting on this entry is the only artificial lighting used, it is from a light that happens to be mounted in that location. I only switched it on because of the cool ' creepy underground cavern' effect it created. The pics taken without it on actually are all much lighter, paradoxically, but also much less interesting visually). I don't own any fancy photographer's lights, and neither do I really have anything lying around the place I could use. Plus there just wasn't time to get into all that kind of thing. These were taken on Saturday night with the last of the light, the paint still drying on the figures and no time for varnish, it was pretty much all or nothing!

If you look at my "Ill met by Moonlight" entry that one was taken in an entirely dark room, but with a very long exposure (as the summer sunlight was doing strange things to the picture). For my money it turned out really well. My Abyssinian entry was taken with sunlight beaming directly on to the figures, and that one was a hit too. It really conveyed the heat of Africa well. This last entry I think is the only one which used any artificial light, all the others just used sunlight (which, after much experimenting I find yields me better shots than when I try to use artificial lighting). So you can see sometimes my approach hits, and sometimes it misses. But I'm enjoying using this technique for now, so I'm not going to move on to anything more complicated for the time being.

And to be brutally honest, Bugsda is a better painter than me, so even if I followed the advice of those who can't stop obsessing with the matter of my light levels ;) I probably would have lost anyway. Only it would have been with an entry that I was less satisfied with. So it really doesn't make any difference. But again, thanks for the tips. It's always good to learn new things. This photography lark is quite fascinating when you get into it. I'm only just beginning really, and have learned so much already just in the last ten weeks experimenting with trying to get good shots. I have the LPL to thank for that, too.
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Vonkluge on July 02, 2009, 02:25:50 AM
Sorry Plynkes,

I don't buy the
Quote
to be brutally honest, Bugsda is a better painter than me
plea! There are a lot of Great painters here and you are one of them, frankly everyone in this contest is pretty darn good! They just have different "styles" and "methods" that appeal to different people. Look at the dozen or so “great” painters (in the world), I like some of them but not others as much, not that their better or worse just a different style, sort of like I like Brunettes, you like Blonds, both pretty but different, and I still would have liked to have seen your entry with some “pools” of light ala the background area on the foreground minis! Sort of like shafts of light penetrating the depths!  ;D
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Malebolgia on July 02, 2009, 12:01:41 PM
Two great pink worms against each other! This should be every woman's dream ;). Cool presentation in both pictures. I love the grand melee and chaos in the first one. Bugsda's soft painting style works wonders on the miniatures. The Copplestones look great together.
Plynkes has used some strange and interesting miniatures together. It produces a very nice and original story which makes me want more. The Otherworld worm looks perfect in red. I hope our officer reaches the damsel in time!
Title: Re: ROUND 10 Tarzan and the Dubious Death Worm vs In the Clutches of the Beastmen
Post by: Bugsda on July 16, 2009, 10:02:23 PM
Where is the dubious death worm from? I love it!

It's a Grenadier model Sinewgrab, I found out today.
 
It's actually a Puple Death Worm apparently. :)