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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: painterman on August 31, 2019, 10:24:15 AM
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A "what I did on my holidays" posting...
(https://i.imgur.com/EarIxI6.jpg)
Added long riding boots to Perry WotR archers, in attempt to make a new unit of Burgundian longbowmen.
More on my blog, but summary is that the Ordinances of Charles the Bold show that mounted longbowmen were raised (probably from England) and specifies knee length riding boots. This is also supported by some visual evidence.
So, I've cut off the shoes and used green stuff to add turnovers, flap down the sides and buckles - to the best of my mediocre capabilities with putty pushing - nearly ready to paint up a unit of 18 of them.
Cheers
Simon.
https://je-lay-emprins.blogspot.com
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Cool beans, they should look great painted up.
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Can't wait to see them painted up!
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They look great from where I'm sitting :-*
Looking forward to seeing them painted up :)
Kind Regards
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Nicely done :)
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Great stuff Simon, good to see the Burgundian project is still alive!
I'm planning on doing similar longbowmen conversions in the future....
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Very smart Simon... I will be stealing this idea. ;D
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Very nice indeed. May have to "steal" this idea as well.
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More on my blog, but summary is that the Ordinances of Charles the Bold show that mounted longbowmen were raised (probably from England) and specifies knee length riding boots. This is also supported by some visual evidence.
While there certainly were English arches in Charles pay, I am also under the impression that archers could also be hired from the Burgundian lands in the northern France and Low Countries.
Those conversions look very promising, though those of us with less affinity for modelling putty might appreciate if the Perrys would get inspired to sculpt a few such packs for their European Armies range. Alternatively, if some other company could consider producing "dollies" (legs and torso) that the customer could complete with spare plastic heads and arms from the Perry sets...
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Thanks for the comments and please 'steal away'...
Some progress on the painting - happy with how they've turned out.
(https://i.imgur.com/fdNYD3Q.jpg)
Simon.
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Yep.... :-* :-* :-*
Kind Regards
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Some progress on the painting - happy with how they've turned out.
Simon.
You should be - they look great. :)
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Looking super.
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Wow those are terrific :-* :-* :-*
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Beautiful sculpts and paint...as always!
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Flippin awesome work, do you have a specific commander or banner in mind for them?
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Been thinking the very same Stuart, an Ordonnance company flag will fit rest of my army. Not sure whether to add a captain type figure or have all bowmen?
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Not sure whether to add a captain type figure or have all bowmen?
Considering the amount of suitable figures (not to mention possibilities for conversions), is there any valid excuse for not including a captain to command the lot?
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Greifbringer -
Only that all my other units don't have them - and I'm getting middle-aged and stuck in my ways! :)
I have done an easy conversion, so will paint him up and see if he fits in when I get to the basing stage...
Cheers
Simon.
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Those did turn out excellently. Looking forward to seeing them all based up with their commander :)
Thanks
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Very cool conversions and a nice looking paintjob on them!
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The booted Burgundians are done!
(https://i.imgur.com/Rf74tQV.jpg)
More images on the blogette: https://je-lay-emprins.blogspot.com
Thanks for the kind words on this unit.
Simon.
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They look fabulous. I keep coming back to your blog, just to enjoy your incredibly dedicated work on this period project. Haven't left a comment for quite some time, which is an awful habit. Sorry. Well, let's just say, thanks for sharing! :)
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They are really something else. Excellent
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Very effective putty work 8)
The whole unit looks fab :-* :-* :-*
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Again wow they are great :-* :-* :-*
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Fantastic work! Looking amazing all round!
Silly question but what's the base body you used on the standard bearer?
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Superb :)
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HappyChappy43
The standard bearer is a metal Perry command figure (EA33), with head swap of Perry plastic one from Mercenaries Box.
The head of the metal one reminds me of Wallace and Gromit for some reason!!
Simon.
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Wonderful work, I like these a lot!
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Nice painting!
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These are superb!!! Love the sculpting of the turned down part at the top of the boots, nailed it. Nice choice of colour too I really like that black and tan
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Another marvellous unit Simon :-*
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Thanks for the comments - much appreciated!
Made a start on a householder base - Perry horses (with saddles and stirrups added) and plastic page - a work in progress.
(https://i.imgur.com/5bjvDfZ.jpg)
Bit more on the blog, as usual.
https://je-lay-emprins.blogspot.com
Cheers, Simon.
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Looking good! I like how much mileage you can get out of the Light Cavalry box too!
Shame it's such a pain to get passive-posed or standing horses though! There's a couple of individual ones on the Front Rank website which scale alright with the Perry ones from what I can tell, but again not a huge variety
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Lovely subtle conversion work, especially on the horses Simon. :-* :-* :-*
Might have to nick the idea for with my HYW collection..... if that's OK?
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This is going to be something special cant wait to see it painted, so glad to see new stuff on the blog too =).
The stirrups are perfect!
I just found out 1st corps do standing medieval horses but no idea how they compare size wise to the Perry horses
https://1stcorps.co.uk/product/mounted-crossbowmen-i/ (https://1stcorps.co.uk/product/mounted-crossbowmen-i/)
https://1stcorps.co.uk/product-category/medieval/late-medieval/late-medieval-cavalry/ (https://1stcorps.co.uk/product-category/medieval/late-medieval/late-medieval-cavalry/)
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This is going to be something special cant wait to see it painted, so glad to see new stuff on the blog too =).
The stirrups are perfect!
I just found out 1st corps do standing medieval horses but no idea how they compare size wise to the Perry horses
https://1stcorps.co.uk/product/mounted-crossbowmen-i/ (https://1stcorps.co.uk/product/mounted-crossbowmen-i/)
https://1stcorps.co.uk/product-category/medieval/late-medieval/late-medieval-cavalry/ (https://1stcorps.co.uk/product-category/medieval/late-medieval/late-medieval-cavalry/)
The old Kingmaker horses are larger then the Perry equivalents.
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They look fab! 8) 8) 8)
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Prep work for second householder base is underway - stirrups and reins to be added.
Happy with overall poses.
(https://i.imgur.com/EUUJSHV.jpg)
Cheers, Simon.
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Nicely done :-*
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Oh wow, that second one is particularly effective!
I've often considered doing horse holders like this, but hadn't considered that I'd need to resculpt the reins and create stirrups as well...
I don't think I'm going to do it in the end, seems beyond my skills, but I applaud you for doing it!
I've used the same Agincourt metal horses in walking poses for my own mounted crossbowmen (as yet unpainted). As you've found they scale well with the metal WOTR horses, but are definitely noticeably smaller than the plastic WOTR horses. Work very well for mounted longbowmen/crossbowmen!
(Though if a certain company ever decided to release packs of horse holders I'd buy a load of them....)
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Charlie:
've often considered doing horse holders like this, but hadn't considered that I'd need to resculpt the reins and create stirrups as well...
I don't think I'm going to do it in the end, seems beyond my skills, but I applaud you for doing it!
I think you can...it's just a trial and error process for the stirrups. Bend thin wire with pliers into a stirrup shape and then coat the 'strap' with green stuff and trim to length when its set hard.
I'm now attempting a Burgundian Coustiller mounting his horse - again, chopping up plastic and filling gaps with putty - trying to match a pose I've found online.
It's fiddly; but thats the joy of plastic, it creates the opportunity for vignettes etc.
Cheers, Simon.
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The old Kingmaker horses are larger then the Perry equivalents.
Metal and/or plastic?
I know the TAG horses are a little smaller than Perry ones, but might be appropriate for dismounted archers and crossbowmen.
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Metal and/or plastic?
I know the TAG horses are a little smaller than Perry ones, but might be appropriate for dismounted archers and crossbowmen.
Sorry, I was referring to the Perry metal horses.
I don't have any Kingmaker horses left lying around to compare them with the plastic ones unfortunately :(
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First base (of the three) all done.
Thanks for the feedback; I've committed myself to the Perry horses now (that is I've purchased some more).
Cheers
Simon.
(https://i.imgur.com/xYkXOpM.jpg)
(tiddly bit out-of-focus...but more on the blog: https://je-lay-emprins.blogspot.com
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The first base has turned out great!
The Perry horses seem to be a good choice (for consistency if nothing else!), just a shame it's not easier to get a whole bunch of 'neutral' horses in bulk though!
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Very nice, the horses look superb
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The second base is now all painted up (the one on the right) - happy with how this one's worked out - moving on to the third and final one.
(https://i.imgur.com/XVGbnzl.jpg)
Cheers, Simon.
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Top banana Simon :-* :-* :-*
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That works wonderfully 8)
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Excellent work!
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Fantastic work!
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great stuff
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That's really nice. I love poses like that, the ordinary people looking relatively relaxed and doing ordinary things, rather than the leaping and sword-waving that so many manufacturers seem intent on creating.
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Lovely. Quite a piece de resistance on a gaming table. Important, these little adormnets, I think.
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Lovely. Quite a piece de resistance on a gaming table. Important, these little adormnets, I think.
Yeah, apart from the purely lovely aesthetic involved in having pieces like this on the tabletop they can really make or break the look of a game.
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Knocked it out of the park with these, absolutely superb =)
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I've just read your article in the latest Wargames Illustrated. They could have easily filled the entire issue with your Burgundians. :P
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I've just read your article in the latest Wargames Illustrated. They could have easily filled the entire issue with your Burgundians. :P
Off to the shops I go!!! I realise you had a feature in the magazine this month Simon!
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Yep
I’ve chipped in with a ‘how I’ve collected my Burgundians’ - much of the content won’t be new if you’ve been a blog follower.
Cheers
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Yep
I’ve chipped in with a ‘how I’ve collected my Burgundians’ - much of the content won’t be new if you’ve been a blog follower.
Cheers
But nice to have methinks :)
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...and finally they're finished!
Took much longer than planned - isn't it always the way...
The householders with the dismounted archers.
(https://i.imgur.com/t4q76Uq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9Y1kgFu.jpg)
More pics on the blog...
https://je-lay-emprins.blogspot.com
Cheers, Simon.
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Lovely.
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Wonderful stuff Simon :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
I'll have to make sure I buy a copy of the latest WI!
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Gorgeously executed!
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Fantastic work. :-*
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Great work! Those horse-holders all together look amazing!
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Horse holders look :-*
Great work as always Simon.