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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Aesthete on October 27, 2019, 04:03:35 AM
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... not quite up to the standard I see on these boards, I'm afraid, but more or less table top quality. Actually finishing minis is a bit of an achievement for me, so I'm sharing the results in an attempt to keep my momentum going.
The hope is that one day they'll see use playing SAGA, and possibly some other games too.
You can see the same pictures with a bit more pointless banter over on my blog, as well as the other handful of minis I've painted recentlyDispatches from the Miniature Front (https://miniaturefront.blogspot.com)
Anyhow, here they are:
(https://i.imgur.com/7XiCnil.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/0eolAdE.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/A6ZUSzc.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/2nyWO9T.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/vLgxxiq.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/COnQOQo.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/YfHhgbH.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/uUNweJh.png)
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... not quite up to the standard I see on these boards, I'm afraid, but more or less table top quality. Actually finishing minis is a bit of an achievement for me, so I'm sharing the results in an attempt to keep my momentum going.
Still well painted and more importantly you are waging the war on unpainted lead- good job!
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You did!
And they're very nice too! 8) 8) 8)
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I'm not sure you need to apologise for those. :)
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Lovely old sculpts brought to life! I like your painting style, it brings out the flesh and facial expressions very well, and respect for those freehand shields!
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Still well painted and more importantly you are waging the war on unpainted lead- good job!
Yes, indeed. I reckon I'm solidly on the way to get the first 1% out of the way. Still, I noticed that once I started painting regularly - I manage to get a few minutes in every other day now - the impulse to BUY additional miniatures is a little more controllable.
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You did!
And they're very nice too! 8) 8) 8)
I'm not sure you need to apologise for those. :)
Thank you :) Hopefully I keep the momentum going.
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Lovely old sculpts brought to life! I like your painting style, it brings out the flesh and facial expressions very well, and respect for those freehand shields!
Thank you!
I have a bunch of metal vikings from "back in the day" (around the time the WFB "Shieldwall" supplement came out). I kept thinking they were all Wargames Foundry, but due to two distinct shield styles (some have thick shields with modelled details, some have thinner completely blank shields) I'm pretty sure they're two different manufacturers. I'm just not sure where the non-Foundry minis are from....
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Good job, they look great. I particularly like the first two old citadel berserkers!
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That answers my question... my metal vikings are Foundry and Citadel. I frankly forgot that Citadel used to make historical miniatures. But yes, I quick google of "Citadel Miniature Vikings" brings up pictures of about half my unpainted vikings.
Thanks!
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I keep the momentum going.
Shall we race? I've just finished filing and prepping my own Viking army; hoping to undercoat 'em tomorrow.
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They look great. Never knew that some of them went into battle naked!
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Shall we race? I've just finished filing and prepping my own Viking army; hoping to undercoat 'em tomorrow.
How about we make it a leisurely mutual pacing run to build stamina? I'm pretty sure I'm not in race condition, but a good running partner would no doubt be beneficial to my pace :)
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They look great. Never knew that some of them went into battle naked!
[caveat: I am no scholar, but I've read a few books]
There are sources (pictoral and textual) describing viking berserkers and pre-viking Germannic warriors such as the Heruli going into battle "naked". Now, whether that naked meant "no armour, and maybe with their shirt off" or whether it meant "completely stark naked" is not a settled question, as I understand it. Similarly, I don't think it's necessarily clear to what degree these descriptions are factual descriptions of common place behaviour versus poetic metaphor to describe an idealized form of fury vs cultic symbolism added as a cool narrative embelishment to make stories better in the telling.
A couple of IMO decent links on the topic:
https://en.natmus.dk/historical-knowledge/denmark/prehistoric-period-until-1050-ad/the-viking-age/weapons/berserkers/
https://www.historyextra.com/period/viking/the-truth-about-viking-berserkers/
... good enough for wargaming purposes, I say :)
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How about we make it a leisurely mutual pacing run to build stamina? I'm pretty sure I'm not in race condition, but a good running partner would no doubt be beneficial to my pace :)
It's a deal. I'll post mine here for comparison as they become available.
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It's a deal. I'll post mine here for comparison as they become available.
Looking forward to it.
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Nice figures. You can never have too many Vikings.
They look great. Never knew that some of them went into battle naked!
There's no evidence that Viking Age berserks went into battle naked at all. Some earlier Germanic warriors appear to have done so, if we accept sources like Tacitus at face value. The misconception that Viking Age berserks fought naked probably stems from people misreading Snorri's statement that they fought without armour, combined with one etymology of Old Norse berserkr deriving it from berr (naked) + serkr (shirt). This etymology is most likely to have meant 'in a bare shirt' i.e. without armour over their shirt.
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Nice figures. You can never have too many Vikings.
There's no evidence that Viking Age berserks went into battle naked at all. Some earlier Germanic warriors appear to have done so, if we accept sources like Tacitus at face value. The misconception that Viking Age berserks fought naked probably stems from people misreading Snorri's statement that they fought without armour, combined with one etymology of Old Norse berserkr deriving it from berr (naked) + serkr (shirt). This etymology is most likely to have meant 'in a bare shirt' i.e. without armour over their shirt.
Agreed. It's a bit of a modern Urban Myth.
Fun though ;) :)
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Yes, it's fun, but a bit on the chilly side for those northern climes! lol
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Agreed. It's a bit of a modern Urban Myth.
Fun though ;) :)
Personally I reckon it's not so much a modern myth as an old myth since we do have arhaeological depictions of naked warriors in Scandinavia prior to the viking age. Like this one, dated ~400 CE.
(https://en.natmus.dk/typo3temp/GB/40235fa028.jpg)
My personal take is that vikings would have stories of people fighting naked (or near naked), but whether it was something that they actually did is more murky. But yeah, I agree they're fun for gaming purposes for sure :)
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Personally I reckon it's not so much a modern myth as an old myth since we do have archaeological depictions of naked warriors in Scandinavia prior to the viking age.
Are they lined up for battle or for a ritual on that Gallehus horn you showed? To my mind, the Gallehus horns seem to show rituals in progress more than battles, and we do have some evidence for Vikings getting naked for rituals, such as when pegging out a holmgang area. I really don't think that fighting naked fits with what we know of Viking Age society. It seems to belong more with earlier tribal societies, for which there appears to be more evidence of naked or stripped down warriors.
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Are they lined up for battle or for a ritual on that Gallehus horn you showed? To my mind, the Gallehus horns seem to show rituals in progress more than battles, and we do have some evidence for them getting naked for rituals, such as when pegging out a holmgang area. I really don't think that fighting naked fits with what we know of Viking Age society. It seems to belong more with earlier tribal societies, for which there appears to be more evidence of naked or stripped down warriors.
Yep. I don't mean to poop on the parade but I have to say I agree.
You would certainly need an expert in 'ancient' Scandinavian artefacts to decipher the meaning of that object.
Still, there's nothing at all to stop you using Beserkers in your army if you so wish. I've done it once or twice myself in friendly games.
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Still, there's nothing at all to stop you using Berserkers in your army if you so wish. I've done it once or twice myself in friendly games.
Yes, I'm not saying don't use them. Do what makes you happy in your own games. I sometimes use them myself, despite having argued strongly against the hype about unstoppable, naked, berserk warriors tripping out on mushrooms.
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Yes, I'm not saying don't use them. Do what makes you happy in your own games. I sometimes use them myself, despite having argued strongly against the hype about unstoppable, naked, berserk warriors tripping out on mushrooms.
I completely concur. on both points.
I'm in agreement with you :)
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Ruarigh and Atheling, it is not my intention to get into a protracted internet argument since I'm sure you both know what you're talking about. When I keep replying to your points, the intended spirit is one of pleasant banter on a topic of mutual interest (maybe with a few pints in hand, if you're so inclined) rather than a "no, here's why you're wrong and let me just nitpick this one more thing." Please take my comments in that light - that is how I take yours. But this being the internet, I wanted to state it plainly because sometimes tone doesn't come across the way it's intended :)
Bottom line: yes, I agree with you that units of naked berserkers are probably quite unrealistic/ ahistorical. When I mention the Gallehus horn as evidence of naked warriors in ~400 CE Scandinavia I was paraphrasing (and hotlinking the image to the site of) the National Museum of Denmark (in fact, I linked the relevant page upthread) - my assumption is they're speaking from a place of expertise. I do agree with Ruarigh that it is quite possible a depiction of ritual nakedness, for what it's worth.
To clarify my statement, though, I didn't intend to make the claim that the evidence proves that naked warriors were part of standard military tactics in the viking age or some such, but rather to support the notion that the image of the naked warrior was known at the time. Basically I think it possible and even likely (but don't claim to know it as a fact) that the idea of the warrior so consumed by battle rage that he'd charge into battle naked was known to the vikings. That's about as far as I'm going with it. If others disagree, that's fair enough as far as I'm concerned.
And don't worry, I'll follow your advice and use my little fellers where I think it appropriate (that's after all the main point) - and I probably won't think it appropriate for games intended to be "strictly historical" :)
As an aside, the "they're tripping on mushrooms" thing, that was apparently a theory concocted in 1784 by a priest named Ödmann. It's discussed in the other article I posted upthread, by a fellow with a Ph. D in "viking stuff" from the university of Oslo. I think it was pretty decent on the topic.
... and with that I'm going to grab a beer from the fridge. I'd offer to get you both some if we were having the location face to face. And a thank you both for the conversation. I can't actually paint this evening as some relatives of my wife's dropped in and they're all sitting chatting around the table I usually paint at, but at least I can chat about the stuff with you gentlemen :)
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True. The internet is not the best often obfuscate nuance. :)
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You see it today with footie nutters. They rip their shirts off, beat there bare chests like King Kong, then charge Plod who's wearing full riot gear. Substitute extra strength lager/wizz for magic mushrooms and job's a good 'un!
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There's even a story in Plutarch about a Spartan youth who came rushing out naked from his bath in an emergency, joined the fight, was instrumental in acchieving victory (he was very good looking, and gleaming with oil in the torchlight, so there was reputedly some hope or fear that a god was joining the fight), and afterwards was decorated for heroism and then heavily fined for risking his life like an idiot instead of at least grabbing his shield first.
If super-disciplined Spartans could fight skyclad, I have no trouble believing that some madhead berserkir may have done likewise.
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Ruarigh and Atheling, it is not my intention to get into a protracted internet argument since I'm sure you both know what you're talking about. When I keep replying to your points, the intended spirit is one of pleasant banter on a topic of mutual interest (maybe with a few pints in hand, if you're so inclined) rather than a "no, here's why you're wrong and let me just nitpick this one more thing." Please take my comments in that light - that is how I take yours. But this being the internet, I wanted to state it plainly because sometimes tone doesn't come across the way it's intended :)
Agreed. I've been enjoying this discussion and I appreciate you taking the time to clarify things. Too often tone and nuance gets lost in the rush to post.
I'm actually interested in what evidence other people think is relevant and why, so seeing the Gallehus horn cited was of interest to me. I've been collecting nuggets like this for some time for a medievalism paper I may one day write about why people think the way they do about berserkir.
If you're interested, there's a whole raft of pathologies devoted to berserksgangr, starting in the seventeenth century with berserkir being black magicians in the thrall of the demon Odin all the way through to PTSD and genetics as the most recent explanations. Ödmann's mushroom theory is just one among many that follow the latest research of the time in anthropology, medicine, psychology, etc., and none of them can be directly related to the medieval descriptions of berserkir in the sagas. My favourite is the Norwegian priest who blamed it on a bad hangover. Gotta wonder if he was trying to get his parishioners to drink less. I'm of the view that berserksgangr was performative. The narrative structure of berserkr episodes in Old Norse literature suggests that the medieval audience understood it that way. I would suggest that the Viking Age reality was probably closer to that than to modern depictions of frenzied warriors: i.e. Old Norse berserkr does not mean the same thing as present day English berserker. If you want to do some deep reading on the topic, you might find this PhD thesis of interest: https://eprints.nottingham.ac.uk/28819/ (https://eprints.nottingham.ac.uk/28819/)
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Started today. 1st bondi in foreground, 1st beserkir in background.
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You see it today with footie nutters. They rip their shirts off, beat there bare chests like King Kong, then charge Plod who's wearing full riot gear. Substitute extra strength lager/wizz for magic mushrooms and job's a good 'un!
>:(
Exactly! That was pretty much going to be my next point, but you got there before me...
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Agreed. I've been enjoying this discussion and I appreciate you taking the time to clarify things. Too often tone and nuance gets lost in the rush to post.
I'm actually interested in what evidence other people think is relevant and why, so seeing the Gallehus horn cited was of interest to me. I've been collecting nuggets like this for some time for a medievalism paper I may one day write about why people think the way they do about berserkir.
If you're interested, there's a whole raft of pathologies devoted to berserksgangr, starting in the seventeenth century with berserkir being black magicians in the thrall of the demon Odin all the way through to PTSD and genetics as the most recent explanations. Ödmann's mushroom theory is just one among many that follow the latest research of the time in anthropology, medicine, psychology, etc., and none of them can be directly related to the medieval descriptions of berserkir in the sagas. My favourite is the Norwegian priest who blamed it on a bad hangover. Gotta wonder if he was trying to get his parishioners to drink less. I'm of the view that berserksgangr was performative. The narrative structure of berserkr episodes in Old Norse literature suggests that the medieval audience understood it that way. I would suggest that the Viking Age reality was probably closer to that than to modern depictions of frenzied warriors: i.e. Old Norse berserkr does not mean the same thing as present day English berserker. If you want to do some deep reading on the topic, you might find this PhD thesis of interest: https://eprints.nottingham.ac.uk/28819/ (https://eprints.nottingham.ac.uk/28819/)
I'm super interested - and thanks for sharing the link - I'll be reading it on and off over the next few days. And I agree with you that understanding berserksgangr as performative makes sense.
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Started today. 1st bondi in foreground, 1st beserkir in background.
So it begins...
Do you have system in mind?
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If system means a rules system, I use my own rules, which have evolved over a number of decades. The medieval section was designed mainly for the crusades, so there are a few tweaks for Nordic forces (I'll be throwing them mainly at Byzantines for now).
If it's the system you mean by which I organise painting, I usually do about two batches at a time, about eighty figures. The final army is destined to be about 450+, with a fortified camp and longship to add colour.
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If system means a rules system, I use my own rules, which have evolved over a number of decades. The medieval section was designed mainly for the crusades, so there are a few tweaks for Nordic forces (I'll be throwing them mainly at Byzantines for now).
Interesting. I'm continually impressed by the number of people here who've developed their own rules. I'm curious - what's to main differentiator of your ruleset? By that I mean - we all have things we like in our game systems - either because we find them fun purely on a gameplay level, because they model some aspect of warfare we find interesting, because they are good simulators of how we think history (or fantasy) played out, and so on. What's your focus?
If it's the system you mean by which I organise painting, I usually do about two batches at a time, about eighty figures. The final army is destined to be about 450+, with a fortified camp and longship to add colour.
I am impressed by the scope of your ambition (and by the implication that you'll complete it in a reasonable timeframe). I probably have 2-300 vikings (+ three ships, now that you mention it), but I would not claim that they're destined to be painted in any time of reasonable timeframe :D
Looking forward to see your progress :)
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In the meantime, I finished three (3) viking types last night and photographed them this morning:
(https://i.imgur.com/QRxKl5X.png)
https://miniaturefront.blogspot.com/2019/11/granny-and-boys.html
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Interesting. I'm continually impressed by the number of people here who've developed their own rules. I'm curious - what's the main differentiator of your ruleset? By that I mean - we all have things we like in our game systems - either because we find them fun purely on a gameplay level, because they model some aspect of warfare we find interesting, because they are good simulators of how we think history (or fantasy) played out, and so on. What's your focus?
I am impressed by the scope of your ambition (and by the implication that you'll complete it in a reasonable timeframe). I probably have 2-300 vikings (+ three ships, now that you mention it), but I would not claim that they're destined to be painted in any time of reasonable timeframe :D
Looking forward to seeing your progress :)
My rules tend to be pretty organic as they develop, with the ideal always to balance reasonably satisfying realism with some period detail and comfortable playability...which is probably what every rules writer says, mind you. I think the DBx range had too little period flavour (or attention to reality, grammar, or mathematics) to be satisfying, and gave an easily playable game that favoured rules lawyers over historical tacticians. I suspect this is also the case with what I've seen of grid games and WH (is it?), where there is precious little feel for period, troop types, or equipment types. On the other hand, earlier generations of WRG, with their endless minutiae of weapon and armour classes...life's too short! I recognise three degrees of armour (including none) and likewise shields; oversimplified, true, but on a given battlefield it works acceptably (I don't see the need to distinguish the heavy armour of a Sarmatian cataphract from the much heavier armour of a gensdarme; they'll never meet this side of Valhalla anyway).
My rules are mostly where they are now because of several decades of suggestions from opponents and little flashes of ideas that light up while reading ("Ah, yes, auxilliaries must be able to interpenetrate legionaries so the latter don't have to pursue a recoiling enemy into rough going...", or "Musketry is too deadly; mutual annihilation means there's something wrong with the rules...what if first volley kills in a mutually destructive exchange of fire, but others don't...unless grenadiers or superior discipline class...?"). Some of these little changes are admittedly there to make otherwise very one-sided battles playable, so that Martini-Henries and Gattlings don't assure victory all the time in 19th century Africa, for example. I'll be sticking in ammendments on my deathbed, I'm sure.
Two things that do satisfy me; 1) my wife, who plays good chess but has never read the rules, frequently beats me; and 2) we usually finish even a large battle in under three hours, and frequently two.
Happy to send a copy if you want idle reading. You could doubtless make some useful suggestions.
As for setting targets, do remember I game in 10mm. There are things you don't need to do painting that small. Washing and highlighting can still look good in close up, but they are invisible in play; different from those delectable new figures just posted above! 10 mm don't work in skirmish, but that doesn't interest me much (tried a year ago with some wild west stuff - a bit more fantastic than my usual, but no zombies or steam tanks, at least - and gave up after a few games; figures all became the 12th Maryland Militia for the WNA armies that followed). They do look good in regiments. I think the world is big enough for both approaches (except in the matter of Japanese battles, where I blow steam out of my ears at the prevailing idea that The Seven Samurai is what Sengoku warfare was all about!).
I'm hoping to post a piccie later today, if the cats allow it.
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I hope this works. Lee's the camera and computer boffin, and she's away this weekend.
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1st Bondi, 1st Berserkir (with Ulfhednar and Shieldmaidens), and 1st Huscarls, led by Viljar Vandrikkar and the Raven banner.
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Sorry - posting was a bit erratic.
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Finished a unit of 12 Gripping Beast spear wielding warriors. They will definitely be used as vikings, though I think they can be used for other purposes as well.
I went for a much more muted palette than normal for my dark ages folk, attempting to model warriors of more modest means dressed mostly in more frequently worn homespun clothing. Not that you can really see that since the photo is mostly of their shields...
(https://i.imgur.com/rwvx5Y2.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/qXLnoBP.png)
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1st Bondi, 1st Berserkir (with Ulfhednar and Shieldmaidens), and 1st Huscarls, led by Viljar Vandrikkar and the Raven banner.
Looking nice. There's something great about troops in volume, and 10mm is great for that. What's the make of the miniatures?
... I have a bunch of 10mm Warring States/ Han Chines as well as some of Copplestone's nice fantasy. One day I will paint those. That is definitely the plan.
Re: what you mentioned earlier about sharing your homebrew rules - I'm not much of a rules analyst or giver of feedback to be honest, but I'm curious to see what your approach is if it's not inconvenient for you to share them.
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The figures are pretty eclectic; Pendraken dark ages range, Pendraken fantasy (here and there), Kallistra, Magister Militum, and a few conversions from leftover Newlines and Irregular Miniatures (including a small number of Warring States chaps, oddly enough).
Copplestone's 10mm fantasy are super figures; my late Roman and Byzantine armies use some of their horse tribe chaps as Alan auxilliaries, and my 3rd crusade army has a few spearmen too. I wish they'd do more historical figures.
Your Leidang laddies above look the works. Sometimes an economical and restrained colour scheme really delivers.
I'll need an email if you want the rules (or is there a way to do attachments which I have overlooked?).
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The figures are pretty eclectic; Pendraken dark ages range, Pendraken fantasy (here and there), Kallistra, Magister Militum, and a few conversions from leftover Newlines and Irregular Miniatures (including a small number of Warring States chaps, oddly enough).
Nice. I've browsed all of those ranges, but only have MM and Irregular minis. Not painted or anything, of course... another project for another time.
Your Leidang laddies above look the works. Sometimes an economical and restrained colour scheme really delivers.
Thanks! :)
Copplestone's 10mm fantasy are super figures; my late Roman and Byzantine armies use some of their horse tribe chaps as Alan auxilliaries, and my 3rd crusade army has a few spearmen too. I wish they'd do more historical figures.
For sure. I'd be much deeper into 10mm if Copplestone had a greater range - fantasy or historical.
I'll need an email if you want the rules (or is there a way to do attachments which I have overlooked?).
I sent you a direct message with my email address :)
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For sure. I'd be much deeper into 10mm if Copplestone had a greater range - fantasy or historical.
Those Copplestone 10 mil sculpts are beautiful :-*. I don't play Fantasy but if I did it would be bog battles in 10 mil.
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Not entirely complete yet; I want a Leven watchtower at the gate, a thatched building centrally, a few of those new Pendraken Oirish axemen at the gate too, some dogs guarding the livestock, and an anchor, coil of rope, and a kitty on the deck.
Note the gate is being manned by Harald, son of Njarl, who killed the brother of Egil the berserker who wrote the riddle Why did the raven cross the Atlantic? to the orders of Skarp-Hedin Half-troll, who took to wife Ifredis Gunnarsdottir, sister of the shieldmaiden Halgerd, who slew Ragnar and his brother Ulla at the battle of the Stone Bridge, where the Danes were commanded by Fill Hole-Hand, who later rescued Von the Patient from Mac the Mad Sheep the father of Olga Woolyhead and Erik Bluetooth, uncle-in-law of Harald the Short, that wedded Anja, star of Shieldmaidens in the Sauna....
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Shieldmaidens in the Sauna....
I think I've seen that... ;D
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I think I've seen that... ;D
Big deal. I was in it!
(I was the actor with the very big...what's the word?...ah, yes, scene at the car park.)
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(https://media.oglaf.com/comic/jawbone.jpg)
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Getting briefly back to reality, anyone looking for plausible names might find this useful:
http://www.angelfire.com/wy/svenskildbiter/Viking/viknams3.html
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Not entirely complete yet; I want a Leven watchtower at the gate, a thatched building centrally, a few of those new Pendraken Oirish axemen at the gate too, some dogs guarding the livestock, and an anchor, coil of rope, and a kitty on the deck.
Looking nice! That's a nice looking ship kit too.
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ty. Two more units of Bondi are waiting for varnish now, and some archers are under the brush. I'm hoping we'll be ready by the new year. I'm also hoping a Norwegian friend, recently diagnosed with paternity, will have recovered enough to come and lead his ancestors into battle.
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Done, by Odin! Should have their first outing this evening.
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All the best!
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Done, by Odin! Should have their first outing this evening.
Good thing we didn't race... ^_^
I've assembled some deers with lights Christmas decorations for the front lawn and started a quixotic B/X OSR rules as basis for skirmish/rpg hybrid project - but not painted any vikings.
But please do post photos of the first outing, if you have any :)
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Later this afternoon. I have an appointment with my dentist in 20 minutes....
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Later this afternoon. I have an appointment with my dentist in 20 minutes....
I hope you can convince your dentist to play a quick game....
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She's quite humane, this one. Gave me a massive shot of anaesthetic.
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Their first outing, last night; the self-styled Umayyad Caliphate of al-Andalus failed to stop the Norse raid on Seville, partly because of the rain, which reduced the effect of the Andalusian cavalry (muddy field). Note the empty picture - the defenders had hired some Christian cavalry, but these deserted and went home early on.
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Very nice looking game.
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A great period. Well done.
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Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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Cool looking game.
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Cool looking game.
The weather is a welcome few degrees cooler, actually. :)
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Nice looking painted models, Aesthete! Would love to see more of them, including the terrain. (FierceKitty's shots are nice, too.)
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Nice looking painted models, Aesthete! Would love to see more of them, including the terrain. (FierceKitty's shots are nice, too.)
Thanks! My hobby progress is slow (and unfocused) but I'll update here as appropriate. I have a 40K Battle Report (https://miniaturefront.blogspot.com/2018/03/the-zenobian-7th-in-action-part-i.html) where you can get a better look at most of my terrain if you're interested (pictures start from part II).
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I realize that "few" is the most significant part in my thread title. Anyhow, here are two (2) vikings I just finished.
(https://i.imgur.com/Jv4ZF1R.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/3VL0gv5.png)
If you'd like to see the exact same pictures on my blog, you can do so here. (http://miniaturefront.blogspot.com/)
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Coming along nicely
Cheers
Matt
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These lads aren't actually vikings, but might fight them... so I figured I'd keep them in the same thread.
Presenting a few Normans. Conquest plastic cavalry and (I believe) Citadel lead infantry.
(https://i.imgur.com/PNBAyY5.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/tKZd2w9.png)
For those who are interested, you can see rear-view images and read some minor inane comments here: http://miniaturefront.blogspot.com/2020/07/a-small-wave-of-normans.html
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Looks like the images weren't showing up which kind of undermines the whole point. I think I fixed it now though.
My apologies for any confusion resulting from my lack of tech savvy.
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A few more vikings and Normans got painted. Also one - slightly later period - generic medieval woman with child.
(https://i.imgur.com/hFAth0S.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/xYhMTkU.png)
The Vikings are all Foundry except the fellow with the horn. He's Citadel, I believe. To be honest, the Foundry ones are a little fantasy-ish in my current opinion... the breastplate, the long and wild and unkempt hair and beards. But not perfectly accurate historical models are still historical models, right?
(https://i.imgur.com/zEG9HvW.png)
The mini with the yellow shield is not historical, but I figure it's okay because you can barely see it.
I have a few more pictures - intermingled with fantasy minis over on my blog (https://miniaturefront.blogspot.com/2021/04/vikings-and-gaels-and-harpies-dwarf.html). I didn't plan ahead for LAF's topic division when I took the photos. Maybe next time....
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looks great to me, what I really like to see is the improvements from the first figures ion this thread to the newest, keep it more and more pics is allways welcome :D
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Lots to love in this thread, great figures and terrain.
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looks great to me, what I really like to see is the improvements from the first figures ion this thread to the newest, keep it more and more pics is allways welcome :D
looks great to me, what I really like to see is the improvements from the first figures ion this thread to the newest, keep it more and more pics is allways welcome :D
Thanks! If I only I painted a bit faster....
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Thanks! If I only I painted a bit faster....
dont we all wish to?
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So yeah, a few years pass but I got an actual game in using a good number of the miniatures from this thread (I need to paint more, obviously - ended up conscripting some Norman archers to one of the viking warbands because I don't have any painted vikings with bows).
I tried out Ravenfeast with my boy and did a little writeup on my blog: https://miniaturefront.blogspot.com/2023/08/ravenfeast-first-battle.html
The summary is: we enjoyed ourselves, the rules are good but if you get bogged down on shield wall on shield wall action it gets a little sloggy (but that's probably historically accurate).
(https://imgur.com/OCmO2Ih.jpg)
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Very nice game.
Ravenfeast is a nice set of rules. If you try their facebook page they have there more ideas for other factions and other periods too.
For the shieldwall, try to have 1 or 2 figures flanking or rear attack the shieldwall and you will see it break faster.
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Very nice game.
Ravenfeast is a nice set of rules. If you try their facebook page they have there more ideas for other factions and other periods too.
For the shieldwall, try to have 1 or 2 figures flanking or rear attack the shieldwall and you will see it break faster.
Yeah that makes sense... and it'll add a nice level of intensity to the battles between competing flankers.
One thing I wasn't sure of is whether people in the rear rank of the shield wall can leave the formation or whether you're required to dissolve the shield wall if anyone leaves.
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I usually play without no one leaving the shieldwall or else it is broken.
Yet and according to the rules you only have a minimum of miniatures required in the shieldwall so i gess its a option the way you play. And it makes sense if you use 1 or 2 figures of the rear rank and try to flank the oposite shieldwall. :D