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Miniatures Adventure => Medieval Adventures => Topic started by: Condottiere on November 02, 2019, 12:07:53 AM

Title: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: Condottiere on November 02, 2019, 12:07:53 AM
I notice a few of these appear to be the mounted versions of figures in packs 1-3...

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These represent men at arms in full harness, wearing armour and helmets inspired by Italian and Iberian images and artefacts. So these are ideal for the start of the Italian Wars. As armour was manufactured for export, they'll also not look out of place in any western European army for c1470 to 1500.
They ride unarmored horses and carry heavy lances. All figures have separate heads and so can be mixed to create more variety.

LM 4. Mounted Men at Arms (A) (https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/lm-4.-mounted-men-at-arms-a/)
(https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/assets/uploads/2019/10/IMG_6549-600x600.jpg)

LM 5. Mounted Men at Arms (B) (https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/lm-5.-mounted-men-at-arms-b./)
(https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/assets/uploads/2019/10/IMG_6544-600x600.jpg)
LM 6. Mounted Men at Arms (C) (https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product/lm-6.-mounted-men-at-arms-c./)
(https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/assets/uploads/2019/10/IMG_6551-600x600.jpg)

How about some Late Medieval Mounted Mediterranean Light Cavalry, with options for light lances, arquebuses and/or crossbows?
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: Atheling on November 02, 2019, 07:32:18 AM
I love them!  :-* :-* :-*

Simon, if you see this, will there be a set of foot knights and infantry for the Iberian Peninsular in particular Granada?

Also, an absolute unique attachment to the ranges would be a range of so called Moors for the defence of Grenada and it's surroundings  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: Charlie_ on November 02, 2019, 05:45:31 PM
I've been looking forward to these for ages, placed my order as soon as I saw the announcement on Facebook.

I plan to mix them into the ranks of my Perry cavalry. Having the heads separate is a great feature, and I'll be mixing heads between the two ranges for sure. I think I'll mix up the horses too, though that will require a bit of saddle surgery and green stuff.
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: Charlie_ on November 03, 2019, 01:19:41 PM
I'm surprised there isn't more interest in these!
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: Mick_in_Switzerland on November 03, 2019, 02:50:52 PM
I had missed the announcement. They look very nice figures.
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: painterman on November 03, 2019, 05:01:28 PM
Thanks Condottiere!!  :)
I was going to pst these new men at rams on here - but I've been beaten to it.

Simon.
The website link for a closer look (and a purchase!): https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product-category/later-medieval-1460-1490-product_cat-19/
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: Atheling on November 03, 2019, 06:07:49 PM
Thanks Condottiere!!  :)
I was going to pst these new men at rams on here - but I've been beaten to it.

Simon.
The website link for a closer look (and a purchase!): https://www.steelfistminiatures.com/product-category/later-medieval-1460-1490-product_cat-19/

Very soon! I'm hoping for a few things to be restocked so I can put in a bulk order :)

They are beautifully sculpted  :-*
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: Hu Rhu on November 04, 2019, 09:36:26 AM
I'm surprised there isn't more interest in these!

Perhaps because of the price?  :-X :-X
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: Captain Harlock on November 04, 2019, 10:29:51 AM
Those horses   :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: puster on November 04, 2019, 04:39:15 PM
I'm hoping for a few things to be restocked so I can put in a bulk order

Same here, waiting for Landsknechts head sprues...
7 cavalry packs now on my "to get" list...
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: HappyChappy439 on November 04, 2019, 04:51:55 PM
Same here, waiting for Landsknechts head sprues...
7 cavalry packs now on my "to get" list...

Plus one from me here! Starting to get quite the shopping list for when they come back in stock! A slippery slope for my wallet!  lol
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: Goliad on November 04, 2019, 05:08:19 PM
Love them. Help Bridge the 1490 - 1510 gap for Italian wars.
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: Atheling on November 04, 2019, 05:38:57 PM
Perfect for Granada ;) :)
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: Griefbringer on November 05, 2019, 08:47:11 AM
Also, an absolute unique attachment to the ranges would be a range of so called Moors for the defence of Grenada and it's surroundings  8) 8) 8)

A dedicated range of late 15th century Granadan Moors would certainly certainly be unique, though I would have some doubts on its commercial viability. As far as I have understood, this campaign is not particularly popular amongst wargamers, and catering to the subject properly would require a whole lot of different sculpts, both infantry and cavalry.

Steel Fist already has three ranges and just a single talented (and possibly only part-time?) sculptor to take care of them.

As for the original topic, those are some very decent looking men-at-arms, though personally I am not quite as impressed with these as from some of the previous Steel Fist releases.
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: Atheling on November 05, 2019, 09:54:37 AM
A dedicated range of late 15th century Granadan Moors would certainly certainly be unique, though I would have some doubts on its commercial viability. As far as I have understood, this campaign is not particularly popular amongst wargamers, and catering to the subject properly would require a whole lot of different sculpts, both infantry and cavalry.

I agree, with the caveat that we might be dealing with a chicken and the egg scenario. For example, before the Age of Arthur and El Cid Warhammer Historical books were published it was impossible to imagine that such periods of history would become huge for wargamers. Perhaps WH is a bit of an extreme example because of the resources they had but it at least elucidates my point nicely.

If a popular rule set was to appear which focused on that period of history, who knows :)
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: Griefbringer on November 05, 2019, 10:28:00 AM
I agree, with the caveat that we might be dealing with a chicken and the egg scenario ... If a popular rule set was to appear which focused on that period of history, who knows

True to an extent - and it is not just the rules that can bring interest. Easily available documentation of the conflict in question (such as Osprey books; I think they actually have a campaign book on Granada 1492), a historical movie, a new figure line from a major manufacturer (e.g. Perrys) or a set of plastic figures can also generate at least temporary interest.

However, I am afraid that generating big time interest for the Granadan campaigns in wargamers is not an easy topic. Considering the Castilian resources, it was a bit one-sided, and lacking in big famous field battles (plenty of opportunity for sieges and skirmishes, though).
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: Atheling on November 05, 2019, 12:12:04 PM
True to an extent - and it is not just the rules that can bring interest. Easily available documentation of the conflict in question (such as Osprey books; I think they actually have a campaign book on Granada 1492), a historical movie, a new figure line from a major manufacturer (e.g. Perrys) or a set of plastic figures can also generate at least temporary interest.

Whilst I agree with virtually everything you say; I would argue that Warhammer Historical had a significant impact on the era's of history that Ancient and Medieval wargamers were playing. This is based on solid evidence from conversations I've had with miniature companies for whom I used to paint professionally. As soon as the respective book was published sales would increase exponentially. Now, I note again, Warhammer Historical is a reasonably rare example due to the expansiveness of their resources.

However, I am afraid that generating big time interest for the Granadan campaigns in wargamers is not an easy topic. Considering the Castilian resources, it was a bit one-sided, and lacking in big famous field battles (plenty of opportunity for sieges and skirmishes, though).

It is a small-ish niche. Possibly so is the French Colonial Invasion of Vietnam? Yet still there is a reasonably successful range of miniatures for that very conflict.

Just my tuppence worth :)
Title: Re: Steel Fists' Late Medieval Mounted Knights...
Post by: Charlie_ on November 06, 2019, 01:56:19 PM
My knights arrived yesterday. Very impressed. I've already started combining them with Perry stuff.

They definitely have a very late 15th century, 1490s feel. Details of the armour suggest its soon to develop into the recognisable 'maximilian' style of the 16th century.

I'd be interested to know if I'm right about this, Simon. Were they specifically designed with the 1490s in mind, or would these armour styles have been around in earlier decades?

It's certainly very nice to have some alternatives to the 'classic' Italian, German and English armours.