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Title: Spanish Reconquista, Yusef ibn Tashfin's Hasham Guard Cavalry Page 6 08/02/2
Post by: Atheling on November 13, 2019, 07:41:09 PM
Please scroll down or turn the page for the latest images of the completed units on Page 2:

If you have any questions please feel free to fire away.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-E-BX46zhMek/XcxHN5T0jFI/AAAAAAABCTs/iyfndpoWzZwMbeuAqa6DsXz09jJgl1fWgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/P1080981%2B%25282%2529.jpeg)

More pics and commentary on my blog:

https://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2019/11/yusuf-ibn-tashfins-black-guard.html (https://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2019/11/yusuf-ibn-tashfins-black-guard.html)
Title: Re: Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: Roo on November 13, 2019, 07:51:18 PM
A good start sir
Title: Re: Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: Neldoreth on November 13, 2019, 09:16:21 PM
They look great, seriously. It's cool to see that sense of uniformity that crept in to Andalusia with the coming of the North Africans. This unit looks really sharp, and I'm looking forward to seeing it come together.

Interesting discussion on the shields. I agree that the light brown shields really work well with the color scheme of the clothing. It would be great to see a couple of the grayish-greenish-blue realistic shields in the mix too, just to highlight the effectiveness of the lighter brown. Also, is there any chance that these shields we painted? If so, then you can justofy any color you want :D

Thanks
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Title: Re: Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on November 14, 2019, 06:10:40 AM
Personally, I believe you are doing a great job. I am not sure about the spears, though. I mean there is not much bamboo either in North Africa nor Spain!  lol

Jokes aside, it looks great. I want to do something similar but for a later period, late 12th to early 13th Century, with Almohads instead Almoravids. I have been toying with the idea of using the plastic set of the Perrys for the Sudan to represent the Black Guard of the Almohad sultan, which at Las Navas was formed, apparently, by black slave-soldiers. Just thinking about it at the present, though. Too many projects at the same time!

Title: Re: Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: Atheling on November 14, 2019, 07:48:38 AM
Thanks for the comments everyone :)

Personally, I believe you are doing a great job. I am not sure about the spears, though. I mean there is not much bamboo either in North Africa nor Spain!  lol

I disagree. given the size of the Caliphate at the time and the extent of trade this is entirely feasible. It was after all, on of if not the largest empire of it's time and trade was booming. Also, there is evidence to suggest that this is what was used by some, if not all of the North African component of the army.

The first image is from Ian Heath, Armies of the Dark Ages, Arab Cavalryman (sorry about the tiny image, it was all I could find online but the image in the book clearly shows a bamboo spear):
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-W3RhJDHszPM/Xc0DwFkDuLI/AAAAAAABCVM/L2nZ9MVybBUGVnrDbHFaXPrkuhjElxQ8QCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/download%2B%25281%2529.jpeg)

I would imagine that the line drawing might translate as something like this:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Sougn8Saj2s/Xc0DwatU0qI/AAAAAAABCVQ/bnORMPKKMEs1AeHKk8QUu-GfHb-c5DetACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/dc289fd345944b5756ba3b229324ce83.jpeg)

Wide spear head on bamboo shaft- North African:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yWi0a0vPqIM/Xc0Dp0afV7I/AAAAAAABCVA/eoMis6hJKugTs86WxJU9dk79rwIXEWKaQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Large%2Bspear%2B-%2BBamboo%2Bshaft%253B%2Bsteel%252C%2Bblade-like%2Bhead.%2BThe%2Bposterior%2Bend%2Bof%2Bthe%2Bshaft%2Bis%2Bwound%2Bwith%2Ba%2Bstrip%2Bof%2Bsteel%2BFrom%2Bthe%2BZande%2Btribe%2Bsituated%2Baround%2BFambra%2Bin%2BAnglo-Egyptian%2BSudan%252C%2BAfrica.jpg)

Examples of North African Arrow Shafts:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-d7-Mj1PkK8g/Xc0Dp5xjUUI/AAAAAAABCU8/KxUhVlzoVRohJrVRxuentDVYfNnTZfSoACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/North%2BAfrican%2BQuiver%2BArrows.jpg)

Whilst we are delving into a period of history that is one thousand years ago ergo, the evidence is going to be flaky; there is a reasonable body of evidence to suggest that bamboo spears were indeed used.

Jokes aside, it looks great. I want to do something similar but for a later period, late 12th to early 13th Century, with Almohads instead Almoravids. I have been toying with the idea of using the plastic set of the Perrys for the Sudan to represent the Black Guard of the Almohad sultan, which at Las Navas was formed, apparently, by black slave-soldiers. Just thinking about it at the present, though. Too many projects at the same time!

I'm doing exactly the same game, Las Navas de Tolosa 1212 using the Baron's War range that will be released by Footsore. Great minds think alike :)

They look great, seriously. It's cool to see that sense of uniformity that crept in to Andalusia with the coming of the North Africans. This unit looks really sharp, and I'm looking forward to seeing it come together.

Thanks :)

Interesting discussion on the shields. I agree that the light brown shields really work well with the color scheme of the clothing. It would be great to see a couple of the grayish-greenish-blue realistic shields in the mix too, just to highlight the effectiveness of the lighter brown. Also, is there any chance that these shields we painted? If so, then you can justofy any color you want :D

Good point  lol. Actually you make a very good point- it's a subject that must be worth looking into. The Christian forces painted their animal hide covered wooden shields, so why not Islamic armies in the same part of the world?

I finished another five yesterday evening. That has to be a record for me! Five mini's in one sitting!!  :o

Two coats of varnish and they will be added to the units :)
Title: Re: Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on November 15, 2019, 06:01:17 AM
Atheling

I think those represent cane rather than bamboo. The former is very common in the region, it is flexible, and have been traditionally used for centuries. I guess it has been a misunderstanding in my part and when I read "bamboo" I thought on the South-East Asia plant, and not as a generic term! My bad...

Alas,it such a minor point that it is irrelevant and they look really well on the minis.

By the way, I also intend to use the new Andy Hobday's and Paul Hicks' medievals for the period of Las Navas! Actually, I have been trying to find a ruleset but haven't decided for one yet. I need to decide if I want to go for smaller games, Saga or Clash of Spears style, or something bigger. What do you have in mind?
Title: Re: Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: Atheling on November 15, 2019, 06:34:10 AM
Atheling

I think those represent cane rather than bamboo. The former is very common in the region, it is flexible, and have been traditionally used for centuries. I guess it has been a misunderstanding in my part and when I read "bamboo" I thought on the South-East Asia plant, and not as a generic term! My bad...

Actually, when I think about it you may well be right! It's mentioned as Bamboo in the Warhammer Historical El Cid book so I just sort of took it from there. Cane seems much more likely. So, my bad really! :)

By the way, I also intend to use the new Andy Hobday's and Paul Hicks' medievals for the period of Las Navas! Actually, I have been trying to find a ruleset but haven't decided for one yet. I need to decide if I want to go for smaller games, Saga or Clash of Spears style, or something bigger. What do you have in mind?

I'm looking at Soldiers of God as I was going to use it for another game a few years back. I'm not completely happy with it. It's card and dice based but as well as a normal function (like March, Charge or Loose etc) the cards have a special Function that can be played too which seems to over power the game a little so I think I would just ignore the Special Functions. I also have issues with the strict number of bases in a unit, (either two three or four) With base sizes it would be possible to have any number of mini's on a base but that wouldn't stop an good unit from being unlucky and disappearing prematurely  leaving the game.

I've also been looking at Gripping Beast's Swordpoint rules. The rules are heavily based on battle line cohesion so I think they will reflect well the combats of the period. Only thing is, I haven't played them yet.

If I was going to do a skirmish game I would go with Dux Britanniarum, for 'realism' or Lion Rampant for fun.

Title: Re: Reconquista! Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: levied troop on November 15, 2019, 11:26:39 AM
They look good, the black works well.
Hmmm, maybe I should take 5 years off?
Title: Re: Reconquista! Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: Atheling on November 15, 2019, 12:06:40 PM
They look good, the black works well.
Hmmm, maybe I should take 5 years off?

Seriously.... don't!  lol

Keep at it.... I find myself slowly recalling skills that were pretty much second nature five years ago....

Thanks for the positivity- I kind of need it as far as painting is going at the mo' :)
Title: Re: Reconquista! Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: marco55 on November 24, 2019, 01:24:07 AM
They look great.Keep up the good work.
Mark
Title: Re: Reconquista! Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: Atheling on November 24, 2019, 08:28:20 AM
They look great.Keep up the good work.
Mark

They're coming along. The next pic will probably not be until the unit is complete as I left my camera at my mates (hardcore punk!) music venue and have yet to get it back!

Unless I use my phone......
Title: Re: Reconquista! Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: marco55 on November 24, 2019, 02:56:20 PM
Will you have an El Cid figure?
Mark
Title: Re: Reconquista! Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: Atheling on November 24, 2019, 04:00:08 PM
Will you have an El Cid figure?
Mark

Hi,

At present no. I'm looking at Sagrajas 1086 at present and El Cid was not present. He was still alive but not involved in the battle.

There will be an King Alfonso VI of Leon-Castile base which ought to be just as good. Just not as famous :)

Nothing is written in stone at this stage and Sagrajas might not be the actual game, though this is likely. So, things may change provided all the mini's I've painted fit the scenario.

There would have been more updates and pics but I left my camera in Leeds last weekend at a hardcore punk gig! It's back in town now but currently being looked after by a friend ;) :)
Title: Re: Reconquista! Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: marco55 on November 24, 2019, 05:09:42 PM
You've got to have a "Cid" for this time period. lol lol
Mark
Title: Re: Reconquista! Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: mweaver on November 24, 2019, 05:42:50 PM
I really like them.

-Michael
Title: Re: Reconquista! Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: marco55 on November 24, 2019, 05:44:39 PM
What maker are your figures and I love that flag.
Mark
Title: Re: Reconquista! Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: Atheling on November 24, 2019, 08:51:17 PM
Mark, They are a mix of Artizan Designs and Saxon Miniatures, now sold by Warlord which I bought in one of their sales lately.

To this will be added Gripping Beast, old Musketeer/Footsore (From the Caliphate range) as well as many other odds and ends.

Can't wait to get my camera back  :D
Title: Re: Reconquista! Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: Suber on November 24, 2019, 10:47:28 PM
Lovely work so far! I'm interested in starting with Medievals, and precisely in Reconquista, so I'll be keeping a close eye on this thread  ;)
Title: Re: Reconquista! Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: Atheling on November 25, 2019, 05:58:15 AM
Lovely work so far! I'm interested in starting with Medievals, and precisely in Reconquista, so I'll be keeping a close eye on this thread  ;)

Thanks. Sometimes I feel like I''m just starting out in Medievals too  :)
Title: Re: Sagrajas 1086; Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard
Post by: Atheling on January 06, 2020, 05:00:34 PM
I couldn't resist taking a few snaps with my new camera of the completed unit of Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard. They've been sitting ion the cabinet for a while now as hummed and harred over what camera to go for.

I currently ploughing through three more units of Almoravid and Andalusian troops and they should all be completed quite soon.

Here's a couple of pics- There are more on my blog here:

http://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/01/sagrajas-1086-yusuf-ibn-tashfins-black.html (http://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/01/sagrajas-1086-yusuf-ibn-tashfins-black.html)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vs2aWmDVh_Y/XhNjy-pGHVI/AAAAAAABChU/juvhjRJK57I8zg67j7iYMHq0tqNmfUYCwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/P1000004.jpeg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YOW6pfCCBiA/XhNjyZm-DlI/AAAAAAABChQ/YDn0hpBRetsCGsIoJFij76o-SwNaukj-ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/P1000005%2B%25282%2529.jpeg)

Cheers :)
Title: Re: Sagrajas 1086; Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Update 06/01/20
Post by: marco55 on January 06, 2020, 05:03:03 PM
Really look good. 8)
Mark
Title: Re: Sagrajas 1086; Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Update 06/01/20
Post by: odd duck on January 06, 2020, 06:08:00 PM
Great work that is a fantastic looking unit! :-* :-*
Title: Re: Sagrajas 1086; Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Update- Page 2
Post by: Romark on January 06, 2020, 09:24:42 PM
 :-* :-*
Title: Re: Sagrajas 1086; Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Update- Page 2
Post by: Thew2 on January 06, 2020, 09:51:53 PM
Good job, they look great!
Title: Re: Sagrajas 1086; Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Update- Page 2
Post by: James Morris on January 06, 2020, 10:49:45 PM
Terrific job.  Like the castle wall - is this one resin?
Title: Re: Sagrajas 1086; Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Update- Page 2
Post by: Atheling on January 06, 2020, 11:56:04 PM
Thanks for everyone's kind words  :)

Terrific job.  Like the castle wall - is this one resin?

It's that soft resin-ey stuff James. Slightly spungy. It's from Tablescape and part of their Middle Eastern/North African range. I originally bought them for the Indian Mutiny but I needed something to block out all my paints today and they were at hand  :) They're pre-painted, which I don't normally go in for but I think they've done a decent job so no modification needed. If anything I'd probably add them to a large base in sections of two or three bases then fill in the gaps between the single pieces with Milliput.
Title: Re: Sagrajas 1086; Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Update- Page 2
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 07, 2020, 12:09:24 AM
Good job there matey, they look really well.

 :-*
Title: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Christian Baggage Base
Post by: Atheling on January 16, 2020, 07:24:23 PM
Well, someone's got to don't they..... :)

More pics on my blog here:
http://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/01/reconquista-at-partizan-2020-christian.html (http://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/01/reconquista-at-partizan-2020-christian.html)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Yb2Uj1Q8ppk/XiCivRcUCEI/AAAAAAABCqk/NwV9friGHu8-mSNw6hL5WXMDnHzbWsymACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/P1000097.jpeg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-u0miIXNQgJo/XiCieXeFl8I/AAAAAAABCqM/ah08vR3zp38mRO044u-yEhcaUh2NoJE0QCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/P1000094.jpeg)

Cheers
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Christian Baggage Base- Update Page 2
Post by: levied troop on January 17, 2020, 08:32:40 AM
Quite right - up the workers!
Nicely done, all armies need more baggage and honest toilers in the field.
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Christian Baggage Base- Update Page 2
Post by: Atheling on January 17, 2020, 01:51:37 PM
Quite right - up the workers!

 lol

Nicely done, all armies need more baggage and honest toilers in the field.

Actually, I need to find more baggage type mini's for both the Islamic and Christian forces so if you have any suggestions, please fire away :)
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Christian Baggage Base- Update Page 2
Post by: levied troop on January 17, 2020, 04:17:21 PM
My first thought is
https://1stcorps.co.uk/product-category/medieval/peasants-camp-followers/

The shields in the second pack are a little late for you, but probably convertable/disguise-able.

My second thought is Front Rank:
https://www.frontrank.com/product-category/medieval/medieval-equipment/
excellent carts and loose bits of baggage.

All my subsequent thoughts  :) tend to the Perry’s Agincurt range, again late for what you’re doing but there’s some suitable figures/easily convertable in there.

Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Christian Baggage Base- Update Page 2
Post by: Phil Portway on January 17, 2020, 05:59:41 PM
I got some baggage, Carts etc from Colonel Bill's

There are some pics on this link of my Crusades project!  Page 4 
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=79217.msg1304587#msg1304587
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Christian Baggage Base- Update Page 2
Post by: Atheling on January 17, 2020, 06:02:45 PM
My first thought is
https://1stcorps.co.uk/product-category/medieval/peasants-camp-followers/

The shields in the second pack are a little late for you, but probably convertable/disguise-able.

Thanks mate, I'd actually forgotten about the 1st Corp camp models! They will be pressed into service at some point!!

My second thought is Front Rank:
https://www.frontrank.com/product-category/medieval/medieval-equipment/
excellent carts and loose bits of baggage.

Yeah, I was contemplating using them but with all the tack etc being too late for the 11th Century I'd given up on the idea- then I noticed this on the front Rank site which makes the carts very usable!:
(https://www.frontrank.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/459.jpg)

All my subsequent thoughts  :) tend to the Perry’s Agincurt range, again late for what you’re doing but there’s some suitable figures/easily convertable in there.

I'm kind of saving all the Perry 15th Century carts for a project to follow on from the Reconquista so I'm keeping them all in their boxes for now ;) :)

Thanks for taking time out to make the suggestions- they have been of help :)
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Christian Baggage Base- Update Page 2
Post by: Atheling on January 17, 2020, 06:05:20 PM
I got some baggage, Carts etc from Colonel Bill's

There are some pics on this link of my Crusades project!  Page 4 
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=79217.msg1304587#msg1304587

Wow! They are great. I'll be buying some of those too then!

BTW, is the dead Norman warrior in the cart from Conquest Games? If so do you know if it's possible to buy a sprue with him on?
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Christian Baggage Base- Update Page 2
Post by: Phil Portway on January 17, 2020, 06:24:29 PM
With Colonel Bill's stuff, it's a mix and Match, so all units are sold separately as well all in a kit.

Not sure if conquest fig is on a sprue on his own. Foundry may do casualties.
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Christian Baggage Base- Update Page 2
Post by: Atheling on January 17, 2020, 07:03:46 PM
With Colonel Bill's stuff, it's a mix and Match, so all units are sold separately as well all in a kit.

I'll catch him at a show soon and see what he's got on offer.

Not sure if conquest fig is on a sprue on his own. Foundry may do casualties.

I don't think they do any Norman (stuff that could be used as Christian Spanish) with the possible exception of some of the Viking Casualties which could, if push comes to shove, be converted.

Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Christian Baggage Base- Update Page 2
Post by: Phil Portway on January 17, 2020, 08:47:19 PM
I thought mine were Foundry, they are Perry's metal, Christian casualties (CU29 is the code) and Muslim (MA30)

Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Christian Baggage Base- Update Page 2
Post by: Atheling on January 17, 2020, 09:59:07 PM
I thought mine were Foundry, they are Perry's metal, Christian casualties (CU29 is the code) and Muslim (MA30)

Ah.... I've got the two codes and unfortunately they are both spoken for in various units etc.

I do need to find more dead Spanish Christians 'Moors'!! Models that is!
Title: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Andalusian Noble Cavalry- Update Page 3
Post by: Atheling on January 18, 2020, 11:11:20 AM
I had wanted to post up the pics of the Andalusian Noble Cavalry here yesterday but they were delayed as I had entered the Analogue Painting Challenge (I'll leave a link to that page link later) as I have to wait until the next day before posting.

After my hiatus from painting I'm beginning to find my feet again, so's to speak with the brush and get into the habit of picking the right hues etc.

More pics and information on the game, the hows and whys of painting etc can be found on my blog here:
http://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/01/reconquista-at-partizan-2020-andalusian.html (http://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/01/reconquista-at-partizan-2020-andalusian.html)

So, I present- Andalusian Noble Cavalry:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-14THUIYLeOc/XiCgan7zs6I/AAAAAAABCpU/yGJDWgV3zPw1KXrGn-oK8EXNlDNwnIj-gCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/P1000084.jpeg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kFjsVnQ5PHk/XiCgkasKcPI/AAAAAAABCpY/VrPK0vHYr48HhBnoudDCMjd8U-7PAxPugCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/P1000087.jpeg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jXhkfiwYI3o/XiCgsrd_CiI/AAAAAAABCpc/gB4NLYpcLfAt0gLg2265OwLmQGyywng2QCEwYBhgL/s1600/P1000088.jpeg)

Cheers
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Andalusian Noble Cavalry- Added- Update Page 3
Post by: Phil Portway on January 18, 2020, 11:56:31 AM
Little pieces of art!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Andalusian Noble Cavalry- Added- Update Page 3
Post by: guitarheroandy on January 18, 2020, 01:01:08 PM
Cracking job! Nice to see you back with the brushwork!
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Andalusian Noble Cavalry- Update Page 3
Post by: vexillia on January 18, 2020, 01:06:03 PM
After my hiatus from painting I'm beginning to find my feet again, so's to speak with the brush and get into the habit of picking the right hues etc.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-14THUIYLeOc/XiCgan7zs6I/AAAAAAABCpU/yGJDWgV3zPw1KXrGn-oK8EXNlDNwnIj-gCLcBGAsYHQ/s600/P1000084.jpeg)

Lovely work and it certainly looks like you have indeed found your feet.
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Andalusian Noble Cavalry- Added- Update Page 3
Post by: Atheling on January 18, 2020, 02:21:17 PM
Little pieces of art!  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Thank you Phil.

Cracking job! Nice to see you back with the brushwork!

Cheers Andy, I've really enjoyed the painting I've done thus far on this project.

Lovely work and it certainly looks like you have indeed found your feet.
)

It's nice to start finding me feet indeed Martin!

Back to the studio! :)
Title: Re: Reconquista! Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: Atheling on January 18, 2020, 09:30:08 PM
You've got to have a "Cid" for this time period. lol lol
Mark

The Cid is sticking this one out but his son Diego Rodriguez will be present.

I'll give  you a penny if you can guess the battle?
Title: Re: Reconquista! Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: Phil Portway on January 18, 2020, 09:56:12 PM
The Cid is sticking this one out but his son Diego Rodriguez will be present.

I'll give  you a penny if you can guess the battle?

Would it be his last one, Consuegra?
Title: Re: Reconquista! Yusuf ibn Tashfin's Black Guard Beginning to Take Shape
Post by: Atheling on January 19, 2020, 07:47:13 AM
Would it be his last one, Consuegra?

Ah......  lol

I owe you a penny ;)  :D
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Andalusian Noble Cavalry- Added- Update Page 3
Post by: Phil Portway on January 19, 2020, 08:42:50 AM
I'll take a cheque!  lol lol lol lol lol lol

Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Andalusian Noble Cavalry- Added- Update Page 3
Post by: Atheling on January 19, 2020, 01:02:52 PM
I'll take a cheque!  lol lol lol lol lol lol

Ha! You asked for it- send me your address  lol
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Andalusian Noble Cavalry- Added- Update Page 3
Post by: nikkobourges on January 19, 2020, 01:06:03 PM
Hello,

Excellent paintjob !!! I like this project !!!

Nikkobourges
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Andalusian Noble Cavalry- Added- Update Page 3
Post by: Atheling on January 19, 2020, 06:49:59 PM
Hello,

Excellent paintjob !!! I like this project !!!

Nikkobourges

Thanks- more to come as soon the day after the Analogue Painting Challenge pics have been posted ;)
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Andalusian Noble Cavalry- Added- Update Page 3
Post by: Atheling on January 21, 2020, 05:56:46 PM
Just a short post; I've been playing about with the hands on the Artizan mini's as they are angled about 45 degrees to the right which makes basing a problem later. It looks a bit weird too.

My solution? Cut the off the hands of the little bleeders then pin them back into a different position! If only they were plastics!

More grumblings on my blog here:
https://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-wringing-oh-hands.html (https://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-wringing-oh-hands.html)

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Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Andalusian Noble Cavalry- Added- Update Page 3
Post by: Thew2 on January 21, 2020, 07:04:13 PM
Good idea, although that is some dedication! The old osprey book on the moors was always one of my favourites, and I find the medieval african empires really interesting, so I look forward to seeing these sudanese chaps painted.
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Andalusian Noble Cavalry- Added- Update Page 3
Post by: Atheling on January 21, 2020, 10:48:24 PM
Good idea, although that is some dedication!

To be honest, it's a bit of a pain but doesn't take very long really.

The old osprey book on the moors was always one of my favourites, and I find the medieval african empires really interesting, so I look forward to seeing these sudanese chaps painted.

Thanks. Still working on the Hasham Guard cavalry at present. I make sure I do some prep work every night too, that way it doesn't get too boring :)
Title: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Yusuf ibn Tashfin Command Base- Update Page 4
Post by: Atheling on January 23, 2020, 07:19:41 PM
Here are the pics of Yusuf ibn Tashfin Command Base which will accompany the Black Guard seen in their relative infancy on page 1 and the finished unit on page 2.

As usual all the info regarding the pics can be seen on my blog here:
https://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/01/reconquista-at-partizan-2020-yusuf-ibn.html (https://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/01/reconquista-at-partizan-2020-yusuf-ibn.html)

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Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Yusuf ibn Tashfin Command Base - Page 4 23/01/20
Post by: Harry Faversham on January 24, 2020, 11:50:04 AM
He looks absolutely spiffing old bean, you've made a proper foaming at the mouth, religious nut job there matey!
I've got the same figure for my Mad Mullah, and have gone for a much brighter look, I'm thinking now that was a bad mistake.

:-*
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Yusuf ibn Tashfin Command Base - Page 4 23/01/20
Post by: Atheling on January 24, 2020, 04:15:38 PM
He looks absolutely spiffing old bean, you've made a proper foaming at the mouth, religious nut job there matey!
I've got the same figure for my Mad Mullah, and have gone for a much brighter look, I'm thinking now that was a bad mistake.

:-*

Thanks HF  :)

The base fits better with the Black Guard with darker tones. Currently working on the Mounted Hasham Guard who are sporting...... wait for it..... darker tones  lol
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Yusuf ibn Tashfin Command Base - Page 4 23/01/20
Post by: Atheling on January 25, 2020, 05:47:28 PM
More Shield tassels and more re-positioning of arms!

https://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/01/reconquista-at-partizan-2020-shield.html (https://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/01/reconquista-at-partizan-2020-shield.html)

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Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Yusuf ibn Tashfin Command Base - Page 4 23/01/20
Post by: Breazer on January 26, 2020, 12:41:25 AM
This is all looking very cool Atheling. your painting is super crisp and I like it.
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Yusuf ibn Tashfin Command Base - Page 4 23/01/20
Post by: Atheling on January 26, 2020, 08:34:07 AM
This is all looking very cool Atheling. your painting is super crisp and I like it.

Thanks for the compliment :)

It's funny, I stopped painting for about four, possibly five years(?) and it's been bit of a a steep learning curve getting back into it. A combination of just forgetting about technique, colour theory etc and my eyes declining (I have two sets different magnification glasses and an Optivisor!  lol )

Having said that, I don;t think I've enjoyed painting mini's this much in years! :)
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Yusuf ibn Tashfin Command Base - Page 4 23/01/20
Post by: Phil Portway on January 26, 2020, 08:56:19 AM
My most enjoyable project was my Crusades Armies.

So much colour and diversity of troops, but, lots of cavalry!

Nice converts Atheling :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Yusuf ibn Tashfin Command Base - Page 4 23/01/20
Post by: Atheling on January 26, 2020, 03:15:38 PM
My most enjoyable project was my Crusades Armies.

So much colour and diversity of troops, but, lots of cavalry!

Thanks Phil. It's been a real treat so far as I've alternated between the Almoravid units and the Andalusian units, the latter being much more interesting to paint as they were less austere then their counterparts from North Africa. I'm currently ploughing my way through another two cavalry units but I've had to change the way I'm painting the horses (in the second unit) in order to have a realistic chance of getting everything completed by May!  o_o :o More on this later :)

Nice converts Atheling :-* :-* :-*

Cheers again Phil :)
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Yusuf ibn Tashfin Command Base - Page 4 23/01/20
Post by: olicana on January 27, 2020, 07:19:04 PM
The asymmetric appeal of the 'Crusades period', in Spain or the Holy Land, makes it a must for 'medieval' players. The juxtaposition of the troop types just makes the games unpredictably great.

I just love it, and I love your work too: Outstanding brushwork!
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Yusuf ibn Tashfin Command Base - Page 4 23/01/20
Post by: Atheling on January 27, 2020, 07:34:13 PM
The asymmetric appeal of the 'Crusades period', in Spain or the Holy Land, makes it a must for 'medieval' players. The juxtaposition of the troop types just makes the games unpredictably great.

I just love it, and I love your work too: Outstanding brushwork!

Thanks mate- very much appreciated :)

You're not so bad with a brush yourself! i was bowled over by your First Crusade game at Vappa many a moon ago!!  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Christian Vignette- Page 4 02/02/20
Post by: Atheling on February 06, 2020, 10:52:58 AM
Entry: 02/02/20

I've been slowly working on vignettes to spread across the table top and create some interest outside of the units of fighting men for the demo.

The second to be finished is a chap being blessed by his Bishop during the battle. Perhaps he is in need of reinforcement to his mettle? Perhaps he is preparing himself for the very real possibility of death? Perhaps he will just look good on the table top!  lol

You can read more about the painting of the vignette and see many more pics on my blog:
https://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/02/reconquista-at-partizan-2020-christian.html (https://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/02/reconquista-at-partizan-2020-christian.html)

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Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Christian Vignette- Page 5 02/02/20
Post by: marco55 on February 06, 2020, 11:01:52 AM
Some really nice stuff.
Mark
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Christian Vignette- Page 5 02/02/20
Post by: Atheling on February 06, 2020, 01:27:31 PM
Some really nice stuff.
Mark

Thanks Marco. More to come tomorrow :)
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, Christian Vignette III- Page 5 02/02/20
Post by: Atheling on February 07, 2020, 08:25:49 AM
Entry- 03/02/20

So, yet another vignette that will be placed around the table at Partizan in order to create little points of interest that hopefully augment the game.

This time a priest prays (for himself?) over the body of a dying knight, perhaps in his final death throws from Cholera, a disease which, like dysentery plagued Medieval armies.

You can read more about the piece, how it was painted and see many more pics on my blog as usual:
https://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/02/reconquista-at-partizan-christian.html (https://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/02/reconquista-at-partizan-christian.html)

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Cheers
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, *Another* Christian Vignette III- Page 5 03/02/20
Post by: Doom Beard 78 on February 07, 2020, 06:52:51 PM
Those really do look good
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, *Another* Christian Vignette III- Page 5 03/02/20
Post by: Blackwolf on February 08, 2020, 01:03:01 AM
Cracking stuff!

Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, *Another* Christian Vignette III- Page 5 03/02/20
Post by: Atheling on February 08, 2020, 07:49:26 AM
Thanks for the kind words gents.

I should hopefully get another real unit posted up today :)
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, *Another* Christian Vignette III- Page 5 03/02/20
Post by: scatterbrains on February 08, 2020, 08:00:04 AM
Those vignettes are amazing! Really feels like they are getting battered by the desert sun.
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, *Another* Christian Vignette III- Page 5 03/02/20
Post by: janner on February 08, 2020, 08:20:16 AM
Cracking vignettes  :)
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, *Another* Christian Vignette III- Page 5 03/02/20
Post by: levied troop on February 08, 2020, 08:47:49 AM
Gorgeous painting and a cracking addition to the ‘normal’ tabletop forces  :-*
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, *Another* Christian Vignette III- Page 5 03/02/20
Post by: Atheling on February 08, 2020, 09:03:42 AM
Thanks guys- appreciated  :)

Those vignettes are amazing! Really feels like they are getting battered by the desert sun.

Ah, that might just be the winter lighting, or lack of and having to use every light source I can grab at the mo'  lol
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan 2020, *Another* Christian Vignette III- Page 5 03/02/20
Post by: Tonhel on February 08, 2020, 10:29:05 AM
Very immersive! Beautiful!
Title: Re: Reconquista at Partizan, Yusef ibn Tashfin's Hasham Guard Cavaly Page 6
Post by: Atheling on February 08, 2020, 10:42:58 AM
Very immersive! Beautiful!

Thanks Tonhel  :)

08/02/20

Finally, the completion of another cavalry unit! This time it is the turn of Yusef ibn Tashfin's Hasham Guard Cavalry Regiment.

Heavy Cavalry such as the Hasham Guard were something of a rarity among the Berber tribes thus it is likely that the guard units were specially raised and trained as personal bodyguards to the Emir, Shaykh or Sayyid.  These units would not fight in the Christian style with their increasing tendency to couch the lance but rather with throwing spears and javelins albeit mounted on very sturdy horses. It is not clear as to whether the Hasham Guard units would use feigned flight as a tactic like many other Muslim cavalry types.

More info (painting, history) can be found on my blog:
http://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/02/reconquista-at-partizan-yusef-ibn_7.html (http://justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/2020/02/reconquista-at-partizan-yusef-ibn_7.html)


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Cheers :)