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Title: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: James Morris on November 17, 2019, 01:13:33 PM
I’m having a bit of a mid-life Tolkien revival at the moment and thought I’d having a crack at knocking out an orc host for First Age battles.  I took some old GW orcs and set to with parts from Oathmark goblins and some Perry bill arms. The paint job is a black undercoat with some quick and dirty dry-brushing and highlighting - about ten minutes per figure.

The background is a download from Jon Hodgson Maps.

Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Swordisdrawn on November 17, 2019, 01:25:22 PM
Briiliant conversions. Look like the alan lee orcs
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on November 17, 2019, 01:29:53 PM
Lovin‘em! They look great. Nice conversions, good color palette. I hope to do something similar in the future.
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: MikeRC97 on November 17, 2019, 01:31:24 PM
These look great!
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Hobgoblin on November 17, 2019, 01:43:21 PM
Superb! Nice dynamic poses and great palette!
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Historiker on November 17, 2019, 01:55:24 PM
Very atmospheric!
 
I am currently re-reading the Lord of the Rings (first time in English, shame on me - the first German translation from  Margarent Carroux ist fantastic though!) so I absolutely share your enthusiasm for Middle Earth. In the field of fantasy literature Tolkien is the only author aside from Terry Pratchett whose books I still read :)

How are you approaching the other side of First Age battles?
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Spooktalker on November 17, 2019, 04:21:36 PM
I like these orcs! Well done.
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: killshot on November 17, 2019, 06:05:45 PM
Those are fantastic conversions with great paint jobs.  Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Munindk on November 18, 2019, 08:18:20 AM
Great orcs!

Very inspiring as I'm working on my own orcs, mixing Perry, Fireforge bits with GW Mordor orcs and Oathmark goblins.

I'm curious as to which GW Orcs you've used and which parts?
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Captain Blood on November 18, 2019, 08:36:17 AM
Excellent. Love them. Proper orcs for once  8)
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Hammers on November 18, 2019, 08:52:10 AM
I agree with he other fellows: proper orcs. I like that the weapons and pieces of armour are not too outlandish, bordering to non-functional, as is the case with some orcs representaions.
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: James Morris on November 18, 2019, 06:12:43 PM
Briiliant conversions. Look like the alan lee orcs

Thank you - that’s exactly what I was after - also I love that old Chris Achilleos MERP cover painting.
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: James Morris on November 18, 2019, 06:19:11 PM
Great orcs!

Very inspiring as I'm working on my own orcs, mixing Perry, Fireforge bits with GW Mordor orcs and Oathmark goblins.

I'm curious as to which GW Orcs you've used and which parts?

Cheers! I’ve simply used GW LotR plastic orcs as a base for some of the figures - Uruk hai and Mordor orcs.  I’ve just acquired a set of the Morannon orcs which I think will be ideal too. Weapons-wise, I’m trying to verge towards Tolkien’s descriptions of scimitars and broad-bladed spears (which I think justifies nasty looking polearms).
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: James Morris on November 18, 2019, 06:20:08 PM
Very atmospheric!
 
I am currently re-reading the Lord of the Rings (first time in English, shame on me - the first German translation from  Margarent Carroux ist fantastic though!) so I absolutely share your enthusiasm for Middle Earth. In the field of fantasy literature Tolkien is the only author aside from Terry Pratchett whose books I still read :)

How are you approaching the other side of First Age battles?

Cheers!  I’m not sure what you mean in your last question though. Do you mean rules?
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Historiker on November 18, 2019, 06:41:21 PM
I meant: How did you depict the elves ? :)

Having found your other thread I have now seen that you are using the Oathmark elves as a basis. Excellent stuff!

Have you seen the new Oathmark Goblin Wolf Riders which were shown on the Oathmark Facebook Page today? They are pretty spot on!

So far this range exceeds my expectations and I am eagerly awaiting more releases.
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: James Morris on November 18, 2019, 10:39:02 PM
I meant: How did you depict the elves ? :)

Having found your other thread I have now seen that you are using the Oathmark elves as a basis. Excellent stuff!

Have you seen the new Oathmark Goblin Wolf Riders which were shown on the Oathmark Facebook Page today? They are pretty spot on!

So far this range exceeds my expectations and I am eagerly awaiting more releases.

Yup, Oathmark elves are the other part of the equation for me! I think they are fabulous and just right for Tolkien.

I have indeed seen the new wolf riders (I was lucky enough to get a preview sprue - some of the parts are on the the front rank orc in the second picture above - new head, thrusting spear arm, wolfs tail on helmet).  I haven’t yet seen the wolves in the flesh though.
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: AKULA on November 18, 2019, 10:48:04 PM
Lovely conversions James - they look all the better for having realistic looking weapons

 :)
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Munindk on November 19, 2019, 08:01:26 AM
I have indeed seen the new wolf riders (I was lucky enough to get a preview sprue - some of the parts are on the the front rank orc in the second picture above - new head, thrusting spear arm, wolfs tail on helmet).  I haven’t yet seen the wolves in the flesh though.
I like the riders. While there arent a lot of new bits compared to the infantry, the new bits look great.

The wolves though... they're too cartoony for my tastes. That said I'll probably but at least 1 box for the riders alone.
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: majorsmith on November 19, 2019, 08:45:18 AM
They look brilliant!
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Shahbahraz on November 19, 2019, 11:27:13 AM
Very much like those, suitably grim and dirty, as Tolkien described them. ('I must not start doing fantasy, I must not start doing fantasy'.)
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Griefbringer on November 19, 2019, 05:33:53 PM
Why have I never thought about it - those bills look like really spot on weapons for orcs or goblins, with all the curved blades and spikes pointing in various directions! And I have had those Perry arms around for years. Will need to keep this in mind if I run into any figures needing a replacement for a broken weapon.
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Historiker on November 19, 2019, 05:36:13 PM
Yup, Oathmark elves are the other part of the equation for me! I think they are fabulous and just right for Tolkien.

I have indeed seen the new wolf riders (I was lucky enough to get a preview sprue - some of the parts are on the the front rank orc in the second picture above - new head, thrusting spear arm, wolfs tail on helmet).  I haven’t yet seen the wolves in the flesh though.

The author of Oathmark has a painted preview sprue Wolfrider on his blog and it looks great:

http://therenaissancetroll.blogspot.com/2019/11/wolf-rider.html

Will you expand on the orc / goblin infantry or is your project nearly finished? Would love to see more of these or some scenes from you games in the other tread :)
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: James Morris on November 20, 2019, 10:39:52 PM
Cheers; I saw Joe’s rider via the Facebook page and he’s done a fine job. 

This project is in no way done! I am working on about 40+ orcs right now plus more elves. Not sure where it will end up but I’m enjoying it. I will keep posting updates when I have something new.
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Nordic1980s on November 22, 2019, 09:34:40 PM
Wonderful orcs here, well done! Agree with op on Chris Achilleos' orcs and the coming Oathmark wolf riders look awesome too (the wolf is as if straight out of Battle Masters).

I'm personally very interested in first age (Silmarillion), second age Numenor vs. lesser men (HoME XII, Tal-Elmar) and the fourth age with its possible orc cults (HoME XII, The New Shadow).
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Mallo on November 23, 2019, 12:17:52 AM
Wow, these are fantastic. So atmospheric, they are exactly what I think off when I read the books.

I love the oathmark kits, I think they look fantastic as is, but you've made them even better mixing them with the orc stuff!
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: James Morris on November 24, 2019, 04:12:40 PM
A few more workbench shots...having a great time with these.
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Swordisdrawn on November 24, 2019, 06:11:03 PM
Loving these lads. Spearmen look tops
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: peleset on November 25, 2019, 04:21:47 AM
I've been enjoying this thread; playing around with all the plastic kits available these days is almost a hobby in it's self.

The problem for me seems to be commitment, actually gluing stuff down. I admire you and all those who blaze a trail for us waverers to follow!
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: DivisMal on November 25, 2019, 05:03:50 AM
Love what I’m seeing here! Much. Etter than what a great Hollywood director made out of Tolkien  lol lol
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Munindk on November 25, 2019, 09:17:50 AM
Great orcs :)

When you add Oathmark heads to GW bodies, do you snip the GW head at the neck or slightly further up?
I'm asking because I've done a couple of these and since the Oathmark heads dont come with neck, they tend to sit rather low on the BW bodies.
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Suber on November 25, 2019, 10:27:31 PM
I love what you are doing here. They look absolutely great :-*
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: James Morris on November 25, 2019, 10:57:45 PM
Great orcs :)

When you add Oathmark heads to GW bodies, do you snip the GW head at the neck or slightly further up?
I'm asking because I've done a couple of these and since the Oathmark heads dont come with neck, they tend to sit rather low on the BW bodies.

Good question! I’m cutting the GW orc horizontally across the head about nose level (that sounds bad, I know) and then shaving the remaining face/ neck to create a stump that I can fit the Oathmark head onto. A bit of greenstuff would help but I’m time limited!
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Munindk on November 26, 2019, 07:38:31 AM
Thanks for the advice :)

Too many hunchbacks and it starts to look weird...
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: James Morris on November 27, 2019, 07:54:47 PM
Thanks for the advice :)

Too many hunchbacks and it starts to look weird...

Even for orcs!  lol
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions - new units pg3 8.12.19
Post by: James Morris on December 08, 2019, 11:01:22 PM
Some shots of the latest finished units.  Dropping my painting standards has really increased productivity! But quite happy with the overall look.
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on December 09, 2019, 06:08:53 AM
Stunning with that terrain and backdrop. Respect!
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Elk101 on December 09, 2019, 07:48:14 AM
Excellent work. 'Dropping' your painting standard? I'd have to work up to that!
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: AKULA on December 09, 2019, 04:09:55 PM
Excellent work. 'Dropping' your painting standard? I'd have to work up to that!

This.

Excellent looking project James

 :)
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Captain Blood on December 09, 2019, 04:14:14 PM
Agreed. These look really great  :-*
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Swaelg on December 10, 2019, 01:14:50 AM
This is a real eye candy. More please!
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: Swordisdrawn on December 10, 2019, 02:42:00 PM
Just how i imagined the orcs when i first read lord of the rings. Well played indeed
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: gibby64 on December 10, 2019, 06:26:54 PM
great work! With the massing of the orcs, the grittyness of the color palette works perfect. With orcs like these you can get away with a lesser paint job... I think it all looks great! 
Title: Re: Tolkien orc conversions
Post by: DivisMal on December 10, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
This.

Excellent looking project James

 :)

Yeah! Totally agree!