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Other Stuff => Workbench => Topic started by: Atheling on December 09, 2019, 10:34:53 PM
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I'm in need!
I'm trying to find other manufacturers of acrylic miniature paint equivalents to a series of browns that I use a great deal. I'm running out of said colours very quickly and it's imperative I find replacements ASAP.
Before I trawl through every range of paints that I can think of I was wondering if any of my fellow LAF'ers have had any experience in replacing the GW Citadel paints below with that of any other please?
The colours I'm looking to get as close as is possible are:
Scorched Brown
Dark Flesh
Vermin Brown
Bestial Brown
Snakebite Leather
Cheers!
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First thing googlefoo chucked out:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Paint_Range_Compatibility_Chart
They done a charty thing that might help and a bunch the reference links they used at bottom of page
or
https://redgrimm.github.io/paint-conversion/index.html
or
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xl-x9eW3bLw5eqDeNUG2JUwn2EZwn34TDKfNIg5uul4/htmlview#
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Aren't the Vallejo Game Colour paints a copy of the GW range?
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There is also this chart (attached below) that gives you the best match between the old and new Citadel paint ranges - some are closer than others, but its a handy place to start.
Coat d'Arms is a good bet as well, specially for colours like Bestial Brown (CdA Beasty Brown) as they were the original Citadel range from back in the early 90s, I think...
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Aren't the Vallejo Game Colour paints a copy of the GW range?
They are, and are closer to the previous range or two, rather than the current ones. The names are pretty similiar too.
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They are, and are closer to the previous range or two, rather than the current ones. The names are pretty similiar too.
Brilliant! Thanks guys! They are just what I was looking for as the VMC are great for dry brushing which is exactly what I need them for- speed painting horses. Here's a pic of an example of a Gripping Beast old school horse done in just that way:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gr87Z153ryE/Xe-TOBxtbRI/AAAAAAABCbc/hYwJdqb9WUskCVTkDL1X-zmJBHcZVNlmwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Justinian%2BByzantines%2B1a.jpeg)
Funnily enough I bought the whole range of VMC over well over decade ago and had only used them once or twice. Kind of forgot I had them lol
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P3 Formula range of acrylic paints has an exceedingly good selection of different browns, complete with three different brown washes. Can recommend them all. To my knowledge they're made by the same English company that made the old Citadel paints and makes the Coat d'Arms paints, too. Sold in Europe by Firestorm Games, Battlefield Berlin, Alphaspel, Wayland Games and likes.
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P3 Formula range of acrylic paints has an exceedingly good selection of different browns, complete with three different brown washes. Can recommend them all. To my knowledge they're made by the same English company that made the old Citadel paints and makes the Coat d'Arms paints, too. Sold in Europe by Firestorm Games, Battlefield Berlin, Alphaspel, Wayland Games and likes.
Thanks mate. What I'm looking for is paint with a bit of 'chalkiness' to the pigment as I have a lot of horses to paint (I mean a *lot*) and my usual methodical way of painting such beasts is not going to do the job.. VMC is pigment very good for drybrushing.
I have a few P3 paints so will experiment.
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Aren't the Vallejo Game Colour paints a copy of the GW range?
yes
so are coat d'arms
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yes
so are coat d'arms
In my experience there are consistency problems with Coat d'Arms. They're just not as good, quality wise, as their Vallejo counterparts.
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Having the paints already is a bonus! I find the game colour range thinner than Vallejo model range but you are certainly correct regarding the high pigment quality.
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Having the paints already is a bonus! I find the game colour range thinner than Vallejo model range but you are certainly correct regarding the high pigment quality.
Yeah, if it hadn't been mentioned I don't think I would have even remembered that I had bought the paints! lol
I've moved house quite a few times since! :)
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Try these
https://shop.instarpaint.com/vintage-conversion/
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Try these
https://shop.instarpaint.com/vintage-conversion/
How do they compare with the quality of VMC?
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Not sure but they are meant to be as the gw paints were, the foundation ones they do are good
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Not sure but they are meant to be as the gw paints were, the foundation ones they do are good
Thanks, I might ordered a sample or two soon.
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Whatever you do, stay away from Army Painter paints. They just lack the right amount of pigments :?.