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Miniatures Adventure => The Second World War => Topic started by: Eoin OCnaimhsi on December 15, 2019, 09:50:23 PM

Title: Late War Panzer Camo patterns.
Post by: Eoin OCnaimhsi on December 15, 2019, 09:50:23 PM

Greetimgs all,


I have a Panzer 4 primed and ready to paint for my late war Germans. It is a mixed force which includes Heer, SS and other elements. Therefore the units have differing camo patterns. My 250/10 has ambush camo for example.

I am unsure wether to paint my Panzer in some of the Normandy schemes or in an ambush camo scheme which seems to be much later in the war and not very common.

For tabletop purposes I sort of wanted my force to be able to represent Normandy all the way to post Ardennes, so I suppose my question is what patterns did Panzer divisions employ at the time of D-Day and is it.possible through all the various in the field repainting could the same pattern have survived until much later on in the war?

Title: Re: Late War Panzer Camo patterns.
Post by: Truscott Trotter on December 15, 2019, 11:26:11 PM

I would go with the standard 3 tone camo - it was still in use in 45

Title: Re: Late War Panzer Camo patterns.
Post by: Etranger on December 16, 2019, 08:19:24 AM

Depends how close to reality you want to be. PzIVs weren't painted in the (factory applied) ambush scheme, nor were most halftracks. The three colour scheme above is your best bet for a generic scheme. At the end of the day it's your model.

Title: Re: Late War Panzer Camo patterns.
Post by: Shahbahraz on December 16, 2019, 08:45:12 AM

The other thing worth noting is that the three colour scheme could easily be a two colour scheme depending on what paint was available. So I do variants where the base colour is dunkelgelb (and often a lot lighter for scale reasons), and either brown or green is applied.

e.g. (https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5406c773e4b087d8052ef58b/1576345230931-8SZ8TJ9T3RIILPJDDRCS/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kIFi-OOYQWyoUW6IDkl1_WwUqsxRUqqbr1mOJYKfIPR7LoDQ9mXPOjoJoqy81S2I8N_N4V1vUb5AoIIIbLZhVYxCRW4BPu10St3TBAUQYVKcPYAFiLYbY-QkOpFsrO4s3SJ2KHZRa_ZdQsXUSTO0IAGxuR7jy6TJ93VpgcR7-Sjv/250-2.jpg?format=1500w)

or

(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5406c773e4b087d8052ef58b/1576345283022-IC5BMTCZOJKDC85JNF78/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kIFi-OOYQWyoUW6IDkl1_WwUqsxRUqqbr1mOJYKfIPR7LoDQ9mXPOjoJoqy81S2I8N_N4V1vUb5AoIIIbLZhVYxCRW4BPu10St3TBAUQYVKcPYAFiLYbY-QkOpFsrO4s3SJ2KHZRa_ZdQsXUSTO0IAGxuR7jy6TJ93VpgcR7-Sjv/251-3.jpg?format=1500w)

Also, depending on what the paint was mixed with, it could vary a lot in colour. Your best bet is to find a picture you like and copy it.

Title: Re: Late War Panzer Camo patterns.
Post by: cahrn on December 16, 2019, 08:56:49 PM

As already noted three color camouflage is a safe option. You have a lot of freedom in how you apply the three color pattern, however, so you can tailor the look so it suits you. It's also worth noting that during 1944 and 1945 it was also permissible for vehicles to leave factories painted in a red oxide or olive green base coat, rather than dark yellow.