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Miniatures Adventure => Fantasy Adventures => Topic started by: General Lee on December 21, 2019, 07:00:52 PM
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I'm loving the whole clasdic fantasy look and feel of the upcoming Oathmark game. Anyone giving it a go?
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Most likely yes. I'll probably be using my Game of Thrones models to play it, but the Middle Earth style is appealing as well.
Quite looking forward to seeing the plastic releases in 2020.
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I'll definitely be buying it. Whether I end up playing it at all is another matter.
Looking forward to the new plastic releases for it too.
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I only have a vague idea of how the game itself is meant to be played, though the fact that it can scale between engagements of 5 man units up to full on regimental battles along with having a nation-building themed campaign system sounds really interesting. It also has supplements coming in later 2020 according to their Facebook page which bodes well for future support. I'll definitely give the game a shot.
The models Northstar has released so far are fantastic, I love the classic tolkenesque look to them, and they are what have really gotten my attention. I'm picking up the dwarves soon. Even if the game itself ends up being not to my taste (I primarily play SAGA), as long as the models keep coming I wish the game the best of luck.
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Like their Goblins. Might be tempted into playing it if is not just another KoW, Warlords of Erehwon of WFB thingy. Main thing will be if it's playable with about 50-60 models or if 200+ are needed ( if so, then it's not for me ).
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I've jumped in.
Got one each of the initial Dwarf, goblin, human and Elf boxes.
Almost all painted too!
Probably double that and then add one box each of the 2nd wave of releases for those factions.
The figures are amazing and I hope the rules are too!
But if not, Dragon Rampant or Warhammer will make do.
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I did play a game of Oathmark when it was in an early play-test phase. I won't give anything away for obvious reasons, but suffice to say that it wasn't anything like WFB, was way more enjoyable than KOW (which I really don't like) and, although it had things to iron out (all rules do in early play-test phases) I'm confident it'll be a decent contender to sit happily amongst the other Fantasy rule sets out there. I think it'll have plenty of appeal.
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I'm unlikely to play a rank-n-flank fantasy game anytime soon. I like the Oathmark goblins okay, though they're a little scant. I'm not feeling the rest of the range, but it's very nice to have options.
My primary concern was hearing that the humans/elves are more 25/28 than 28/32 (the more common Warhammer Fantasy-esque scale). Is that true? I know my goblins are rather scant, but they're...goblins.
I will say the kit layout for the goblins is superb, allowing 30 goblins with a variety of weapon options for the entire unit. From a gamer perspective, building an army with these boxes would be excellent/easy if I was into that style game.
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I'll be giving it a try. Unlikely I'll use the miniatures however, I'm sculpting up some 18mm scale fantasy ranges to use instead.
Mass battles with 30mm scale takes up too much space for my liking.
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I'm unlikely to play a rank-n-flank fantasy game anytime soon. I like the Oathmark goblins okay, though they're a little scant. I'm not feeling the rest of the range, but it's very nice to have options.
My primary concern was hearing that the humans/elves are more 25/28 than 28/32 (the more common Warhammer Fantasy-esque scale). Is that true? I know my goblins are rather scant, but they're...goblins.
I will say the kit layout for the goblins is superb, allowing 30 goblins with a variety of weapon options for the entire unit. From a gamer perspective, building an army with these boxes would be excellent/easy if I was into that style game.
They are a bit smaller than GW, yes, but I wouldn't call them 25 mm. 28mm without the scale creep maybe. You can with some thought mix them with say 6th edition Warhammer bits, and bits from other fantasy and historical 28mms. I have a bunch of examples in my Game of Thrones and Age of Magic logs of kitbashing with them.
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It looks interesting. I hear good things about the plastic sets although particularly for the goblins, I wish Northstar would add some pictures on their website of some of the make up options such as the Perrys do for their plastic sets.
As for Tolkienesque massed fantasy battles, I would be tempted to go down the Copplestone Castings 10mm route as these are amazing sculpts.
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The Oathmark Goblins do need careful assembly to avoid slightly weird poses (according to a mate of mine who is currently building some) but once done, they look excellent.
They also kit bash really well with GW LOTR Orcs and even Gripping Beast plastic Dark Age models. Remember, Orcs are meant to be slightly smaller than men/Elves and have disproportionate limb sizes, etc (if you follow the Tolkien version) so the opportunities are endless at 28mm scale for pretty unique Orc armies if one has the patience to kit bash...
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The goblins are great, by far the best plastic set to come out of Northstar.
Everything else is so so to me, they have the same short stumpy style shared by the Frostgrave and Ghost Archipelago kits.
All great for kit bashing skirmish collection but assembling a hundred or so for a mass battle game doesn't sound like fun.
The campaign rules seem to be a big part of the game, winning and exploiting territory, recruiting more troops, etc. which will be interesting to see.
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Everything else is so so to me, they have the same short stumpy style shared by the Frostgrave and Ghost Archipelago kits.
this ...
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I have purchased the plastic kits to be used in other games.
I want to see more about Oathmark. I am not into large mass battle games but some of the features I heard are coming sound interesting (recruiting, world building). I rather stick to some quick skirmish games rather than a large multi-hour game. Looking forward to see more and as well as some battle reports.
Honestly, I am more interested in Frostgrave 2.0 and just recently received Dragon Rampant: Fantasy Wargaming Rules and someone I game with just gave me Ragnorak so I will be reading those rule sets this week.
My normal gaming group is still working through the current Frostgrave Supplements so happy just to play Frostgrave right now.
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Honestly, I am more interested in Frostgrave 2.0 and just recently received Dragon Rampant: Fantasy Wargaming Rules and someone I game with just gave me Ragnorak so I will be reading those rule sets this week.
Same here, I like Dragon Rampant.
I might be wrong but Oathmark is going for a regiment frontage of 5 troops with on average 20 minis in a regiment. Dragon Rampant has only 12 of less per 'regiment'.
It's still easy and very appealing to put 3 or 4 10mm minis on a 25mm square base. 12 of them rank up nicely and works for Dragon Rampant. 20 would seem a bit excessive for me.
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Same here, I like Dragon Rampant.
I might be wrong but Oathmark is going for a regiment frontage of 5 troops with on average 20 minis in a regiment. Dragon Rampant has only 12 of less per 'regiment'.
It's still easy and very appealing to put 3 or 4 10mm minis on a 25mm square base. 12 of them rank up nicely and works for Dragon Rampant. 20 would seem a bit excessive for me.
From what little I know, Oathmark is going for a slightly more 'big battle' feel, which is a bit at odds with the current 'trend' for 'large scale skirmish' rules like Dragon Rampant. Units of 20 or more are pretty standard in your WFB, KOW, etc which are also supposed to be more 'big battle'.
Of course, Oathmark, while it has its own world and its own minis, is very much 'if you've already got a fantasy army, (especially the typical dwarf, elf, human or orc armies), you'll be able to play the game with what you already have.'
The question with Oathmark is whether or not you want a bigger battle feel for your gaming or whether you want the 'large scale skirmish' feel, I guess...
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I am a big fan of the Oathmark minis and I am keen to see how the game develops.
https://ospreypublishing.com/blog/designer_blog_oathmark_goals/?fbclid=IwAR3OYScM6CMXlxbrQMLrm9Ji4O03wJsE3BFblZsvjty_4lOh7sKtbwYwfJ4
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Yes, I'm really looking forward to it as a game. I brought some of the models to use as part of my WFB old world project I've been working on (I want to run a small but jammed packed Albion campaign) but after seeing what Oathmark has planned, I'm very tempted to pivot the project completely and run it exclusively as an oathmark project.
Oathmarks rules started appealing to me when they said that the rules work well with a single box of minis (about 30 minis) and onwards to a couple of hundred per side. I have a huge collection of minis that I've brought over the past 30 years that I just haven't gotten around to playing, as I felt WFB/AoS have never really allowed for the addition of smaller, more manageable additions of newly painted models, which is one of the main things that put me off from playing games over the years (I'm a very slow painter and won't use unpainted minis) so I'm hoping the rules help push for more regular games here. Only needed to paint 5/10 new minis in-between games gives me a workable target to hit, which shouldn't burn me out as quickly on a project as some WFB ones have done in the past.
It also sounds like there are a ton of new models in the works for 2020 and the I adore the kits I've put together so far, they are some of the best kits I've used in a long time.
I'm a little unsure about the use of D10s, but then I've only ever been into games that run D6s, so it being a D10 system feels a little foreign to me, but I'm sure its something that will become 2nd nature incredibly quickly.
With the rumour of a space frostgrave in the works too, I can see me sticking with the frostgrave/oathmark lines for the foreseeable future.
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IIRC Dragon Rampant has a couple of nonsense rules, like the groups have to be separated by a certain amount (3" is it?) Arbitrary rules like that just put me off the game.
Plus the fact that you could fail your rolls and not move for turn after turn. I think that is a failing of all the "Rampant" series.
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I'll be giving it a try. Unlikely I'll use the miniatures however, I'm sculpting up some 18mm scale fantasy ranges to use instead.
Ooh, I could stand to hear more?
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IIRC Dragon Rampant has a couple of nonsense rules, like the groups have to be separated by a certain amount (3" is it?) Arbitrary rules like that just put me off the game.
Plus the fact that you could fail your rolls and not move for turn after turn. I think that is a failing of all the "Rampant" series.
I’ve always seen the 3” rule to allow units to support each other by shooting: if you have two units with a 3” gap in between, then you can place another missile unit behind them and shoot through the gap. So I’ve learned to play with the 3” gap and tolerate it, though it is definitely annoying sometimes, especially when trying to line up friendly troops at the start of the game.
Completely agree about the failed activation mechanism, especially in larger multiplayer games. The Rampant variant The Men Who Would Be Kings allows you to attempt to order all your units, which I prefer.
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With Dragon Rampant, we cut the 3" down to 2" (makes a surprising difference) and have a tweak to activation thus: You only end your turn on a failed unit activation if you have:
a) already failed two activations (i.e. this is your third fail) or
b) already activated 3 units successfully and fail an activation roll
This works very well in our experience, as it still forces you to think about which order you want to activate units in but means that a few crappy dice rolls don't mess up your whole game. We also play with 36 points on a 6 x 4 table as we find 24 too limiting when using magic and fantastical rules...
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I used to have no problem at all with the Dragon Rampant activation system; it always seemed to balance out. Recently, though, a few of us played a four-player game using the "Xenos Rampant" sci-fi hack. That uses the free activations from The Men Who Would Be Kings, except for straight DR units (primitive infantry, warbeasts, etc.). One player was playing an army entirely composed of such troops and failed three activations in a row. So we gave him three automatic successes to use. In retrospect, we should have given all his troops a free Move activation. I'd agree with James Morris that it's a much bigger problem in multiplayer games than in one-on-one games, where failed activations just add a bit of unpredictability.
Having played a few games of TMWWBK over the holidays, I do think it's probably a better system overall. I like how it puts the emphasis on the qualities of unit leaders, and the one-die-one-man system is more elegant than the simpler DR half-strength rule, as it allows for variable unit strengths. Also, the rallying rules are a bit more heroic - and so just as well suited for fantasy games: more last stands and heroic actions in the face of overwhelming odds.
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Hi guys no offence but this thread is about Oathmark, not Dragon Rampant
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Thing is - we don't know squat about the rules yet, right? That makes it really hard being 'into it'.
And the figures range has pretty much nothing to do with the rules except for a logo on the box. I really dig the minis, but that's about it so far. Hoping for a nice game as well. I'll wait and see. :) So far all we know (as far as I read at least) is some ads for future releases in 2020.
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Frankly, I was very excited by the idea of Oathmark. The relative lack of information means that for me at least, the impetus and interest has gone and my Oathmark figures based up for a home brew fantasy version of “Mortal Gods”......
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Personally I’m looking forward to it .. eagerly !
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I'll give it a go. I've got several model agnostic fantasy rule sets so anothers not a stretch
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I'll give it a go. I've got several model agnostic fantasy rule sets so anothers not a stretch
I'm in the same boat.
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I'd say I'm into it.
I like the Oathmark models I've seen so far, and am planning to buy more of them once I can justify it (in terms of making actual painting progress on previously purchased miniatures). What little I know of the rules and world for the main game sounds good too, so I'm very likey to purchase the book once it's out.
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https://ospreypublishing.com/blog/designer_blog_oathmark_kingdom/ (https://ospreypublishing.com/blog/designer_blog_oathmark_kingdom/)
I really like the sound of this. Should have been how cities of sigmar worked.
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https://ospreypublishing.com/blog/designer_blog_oathmark_kingdom/ (https://ospreypublishing.com/blog/designer_blog_oathmark_kingdom/)
I really like the sound of this. Should have been how cities of sigmar worked.
Yeah, that sounds pretty cool.
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Next article is up, there is a fair bit of information on the game in this extract. I love the sound of the kingdom rules. I can't wait to see all the maps and fancy kingdom sheets done up by the players. If this takes off like Frostgrave we could be seeing way more unique armies and terrain added to the game in the later expansions.
https://ospreypublishing.com/blog/designer_blog_oathmark_kingdomextract
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Also can't wait. Ordered the wolf riders today!
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Really enjoyed these last two sneak peeks about the kingdoms. Love that they give the creative freedom to combine traditional fantasy races in new ways.
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This does look interesting. Too bad there are no rat like men with weird war machines as a race choice...
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The concept of the kingdoms affecting troop choices is very clever, and should lead to some interesting armies.
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This does look interesting. Too bad there are no rat like men with weird war machines as a race choice...
I'm going to add custom races to the game for sure. Chances are I'll run dwarves V Gobbos at first (as they are my main army and the army I'm currently painting. Having seen the that humans have ogres, I'm sure I'll add ogres to have their own kingdom, as well as lizard folk and ratmen. I'll run my dark elves as regular elves, just more spiky looking lol
I'll run my undead as humans until the first expansion comes out (with the undead rules).
I'll probably just use what stats are given in the book and proxy the models for the start, but once I have sometime and a couple of games tried, I'm sure I'll rework some rules.
I'm hoping a lot of people do the same and it encrouages them to keep releasing races down the line, much like erehwon has been doing. Looking at the popularity of frostgrave and the amount of adds on and expansions, I could see oathmark becoming a superb fantasy wargame!
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This kingdombuilding stuff reminds me of the old Heroes of Might and Magic PC games.
Build a cavern and you can field hydras, a wolfden allows wolfriders and so on.
Oathmark is triggering all sorts of nostalgia :)
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The campaign system sounds tremendous! I'd love to know a bit more about the basing requirements, etc.
One thing intrigues me: the preview makes mention of goblins and orcs, with each living in separate cities/areas. As the Oathmark goblins are bang-on Tolkien orcs, I wonder what the Oathmark orcs will be.
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Yep from that blog entry on creating a kingdom I think Joe has nailed the army building and campaign piece.
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Being a slow-ish and not overly talented with the brush painter with too many side projects at hand and also a skirmish game player, Oathmark - from what we know - should not have interested me...
... however when I heard that it was done by Joseph McCullough and after seeing the Goblin Army I immediately jumped on board.
Now I have a partly and horribly painted Goblin force and am eagerly awaiting the ruleset. The information about the game itself has been revealed a tad too slow and infrequent for my tastes but they have been picking up in speed recently.
In short: Yeah, I´m in.
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The campaign system sounds tremendous! I'd love to know a bit more about the basing requirements, etc.
One thing intrigues me: the preview makes mention of goblins and orcs, with each living in separate cities/areas. As the Oathmark goblins are bang-on Tolkien orcs, I wonder what the Oathmark orcs will be.
From what's been said, any basing can be pretty much used but you will need to use trays for round bases or bases smaller than 25mm. The oathmark kits come with 25mm each which appears to be the standard basing size (25x50 for horses).
I honestly think it won't be a bother using 20mm basing from older games either, as at worst we need to add a movement tray that adds the extra few mm around the edges, the 20 & 25s for the most part will still line up enough.
Oathmark orcs (from what I recall reading on the northstar page months ago) will be the heavily armoured version (and slightly bigger) version of the goblins. I presume they will look an awful lot a like, unlike how GW split their gobbos & orcs designs up in to more unique looking sub races. Only guessing though.
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Speaking of bases, I have one quick questions (please excuse eventual typos as I am typing on a phone):
Today I saw that Renedra now offers movement trays for 20 miniatures with 25mm round bases which are perfect for Oathmark.
Does anyone know how we are going to move blocks with the „official“ basing? I based all of my Goblins on 25mm square.
Will there be corresponding movement trays once the game is released? Surely, because it is a game with massive armies?
Many thanks!
PS: If there are no such official trays planned, does anyone know good plastic movement trays (can‘t stand mdf). Please excuse my ignorance as I am new to mass battle games. Many thanks!
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The concept of the kingdoms affecting troop choices is very clever, and should lead to some interesting armies.
IIRC the campaign system will let you keep troops when you lose a territory but the troops from that territory become less effective
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Speaking of bases, I have one quick questions (please excuse eventual typos as I am typing on a phone):
Today I saw that Renedra now offers movement trays for 20 miniatures with 25mm round bases which are perfect for Oathmark.
Does anyone know how we are going to move blocks with the „official“ basing? I based all of my Goblins on 25mm square.
Will there be corresponding movement trays once the game is released? Surely, because it is a game with massive armies?
Many thanks!
PS: If there are no such official trays planned, does anyone know good plastic movement trays (can‘t stand mdf). Please excuse my ignorance as I am new to mass battle games. Many thanks!
According the Oathmark Players Facebook Page, the new movement trays from Renedra were actually designed with Oathmark in mind! The designer seems to be supportive of both round and square bases, so the Renedra trays are effectively official trays for Oathmark.
As for movement trays for square-based units, I've made movement trays myself out of thick card that do the job perfectly. Just some card with additional pieces glued at the edges for a raised border and covered in flock. Victrix makes plastic movement trays but I would reccomend making them yourself, that way you can save some money and tailor make them for your formations.
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Hey bonewolf22, you got Deafnala's photo lol
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Many thanks! Since I do not have a FB account, I often miss out on these kinds of information but I figured that the new Renedra trays would be the official version for round bases.
Since the figures are sold with square bases and the rules assume square bases I hoped that there would be trays for those as well. Moving blocks of twenty is a hassle. Kinda makes me regret using the bases the minis came with. Would have loved to use Renedra. Their quality is great.
The Victrix Trays do not seem to fit, apart from the cavalry trays, but a bit of googling led me to Mantic Large infantry trays. Those would work, right?
Looking forward to play the game!
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Since Erewhon has proven not to be very popular locally, it's not being played much, even though I invested heavily in it with dice, dice bag, book, etc, and I really enjoyed the games we did play.
Must be because I won all of them so far... lol
So another generic fantasy system to use my fantasy armies with would be great. I especially like the kingdom campaign rules. It reminds me of campaigns we used to play when there still was a local club around here. With a map on the wall, detailing how our territories expanded and clashed over the course of months (we played weekly). The maps used to have certain features here and there, granting the occupying army certain bonuses, so those were always heavily contested.
Good times :)
So I have high hopes regarding Oathmark. And the scalability sounds really good too. Yes; I'm looking forward to this one!
...If there are no such official trays planned, does anyone know good plastic movement trays...
Plasticard and cleaned up sprues would quickly get you all the trays, in any size you'd need.
And even though they're getting more rare by the day, the old Citadel movement tray kits would be perfect for your needs. They're also becoming expensive though...
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I am certainly planning on buying a copy. Like many others here, I am also quite interested in the campaign rules.
-Michael
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Also like the look of this, I have a few box sets and plan to get more going forward. Rules look like quite cool, will have to break out the map maker!
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So far I got 20 Goblin bowmen, 20 Goblin spearmen, 20 Goblin Warriors and all the Goblin Champions. For my gaming habits so far that is quite sizeable.
Quite excited how that plays in the rules.
I am planning to get some Humans and some Wolfriders at this years Tactica and maybe some Frostgrave and RoSD stuff for Oathmark as well.
Let‘s hope the game system delivers the elegant rules and an engaging campaign system!
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Does anyone have any photos of the Oathmark plastic kits painted? There's some fantastic pro-painted works by Kev Dallimore, but I haven't seen any shots of the Dwarf Infantry/Heavy Infantry or the Human Infantry painted by mere mortals.
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Does anyone have any photos of the Oathmark plastic kits painted? There's some fantastic pro-painted works by Kev Dallimore, but I haven't seen any shots of the Dwarf Infantry/Heavy Infantry or the Human Infantry painted by mere mortals.
Check out my plog, I have both humans and Goblins, as well as a few dwarves.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=55740.75
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Does anyone have any photos of the Oathmark plastic kits painted? There's some fantastic pro-painted works by Kev Dallimore, but I haven't seen any shots of the Dwarf Infantry/Heavy Infantry or the Human Infantry painted by mere mortals.
I also have a plog on here, dwarves are in there. Heavy dwarves will come when ever it warms up enough to start priming again. I have some of the humans as well, but it will be a while before I get to them at all.
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New blog post up on unit activation here. (https://ospreypublishing.com/blog/designer_blog_oathmark_activation/?fbclid=IwAR1UkDLXK6LCMM4E5YtBq1sSdXB2S8lHbr5jFEZDo1PrKfunKCiCf0lPD1M)
Players alternate rolling to activate units. A failed activation results in a limited set of actions being available for the unit for that activation [speculation: maybe the type of "failed roll activations" allowed vary from unit to unit or by race]. A successful activation roll means the unit can do whatever it wants. Nearby commanders make activation easier.
Seems pretty decent to me. I am still in.
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I like what I see so far!
The activation mechanic for me hits a sweet spot between the tension of dice rolls and being able to plan your turn, since you always have a turn but have to manage the result of the roll (This is not a Test has a somewhat similar in spirit activation mechanic called a Mettle Test that goes even further cause it does not automatically alternate the turns between players which I also liked).
Combining all the little pieces (for example the info about a straightforward and transparent dice-pool which still allows for variance) it seems a lot of thought was put into making the game FUN to play. I hope that my impression will only be strengthened by future infos coming out.
So far the game at least for me is a strong contender to become my only mass battle game system (aside from Bolt Action which I think is almost a skirmish game).
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The activation mechanics are somewhat like some of the later Rampant series games, where a unit had a couple of no rolls required activations to choose from, but they had to test if trying anything else.
It seems a resonable compromise, if I ever get around to painting enough miniatures for large skirmish games I'll definitely have to pick up Oathmark.
As it is, I'm just playing around with their goblins and waiting for the wolfriders.
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Yeah no one likes the "I rolled badly my guys sit around doing nothing" mechanics
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Yeah no one likes the "I rolled badly my guys sit around doing nothing" mechanics
Which sounds like a promising thing about this system. All too many of the WH based games completely ignore the command and control element of warfare; turning games more into elaborate chess matches.
I like the idea of somewhat limited activation. That rabble of Goblins may not do quite what you want them to, but they won't just sit there squabbling.
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The Oathmark blog has an art preview up: https://ospreypublishing.com/blog/oathmark_art_preview/
Personally I like it :)
(https://ospreypublishing.com/media/wysiwyg/Oath_3.png)
(https://ospreypublishing.com/media/wysiwyg/Oath_2.png)
(https://ospreypublishing.com/media/wysiwyg/oath_4.png)
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I like those a lot
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Elves allied with goblins? :? :? :?
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If you read the bit about Kingdom building then an army can contain any or all of the races. Depends on the areas within th the kingdom.
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Elves allied with goblins? :? :? :?
Yes, the lore supports anyone working with anyone. Maybe they're unethical evil elves. Maybe the goblins are not a bad sort once you get to know them. Maybe it's purely an alliance of convenience, or a matter of one group being subjugated by the other.
There are all sorts of possibilities. In any case, it doesn't look too good for this particular unit of dwarves right now.
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I've been looking over the Oathmark Kingdom Designer preview and getting all sorts of excited for my burgeoning Dwarf Kingdom.
Does anyone have any suggestions for the following monsters/creatures in 28mm, while I wait for Northstar to come through with their own sculpts?
-Indrik (Unicorn stag?)
- Eachy (4 limbed snake monster)
- Barghest
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While waiting for Oathmark and the supplement introducing undead, I find myself selfishly hoping that Northstar supplies us with an undead cavalry box containing unarmored, unbarded skeletal horses in plastic. We've been missing a good, plain plastic horse skeleton miniature since GW retired the ancient skeletal steed sprue when they canned the Tomb Kings. It'd be nice to have that option again for skeletal/undead light cavalry.
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Yes, the lore supports anyone working with anyone. Maybe they're unethical evil elves. Maybe the goblins are not a bad sort once you get to know them. Maybe it's purely an alliance of convenience, or a matter of one group being subjugated by the other.
There are all sorts of possibilities. In any case, it doesn't look too good for this particular unit of dwarves right now.
Or maybe those greedy dwarves are actually followers of an evil underground God... with tentacles.
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While waiting for Oathmark and the supplement introducing undead, I find myself selfishly hoping that Northstar supplies us with an undead cavalry box containing unarmored, unbarded skeletal horses in plastic.
Seconded. :)
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Elves allied with goblins? :? :? :?
Well evil races tend to align with other evil races after all. ;-)
Grimm
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Beast of War has a preview of the rules here, including bits on unit activation: https://dailyhive.com/mapped/air-new-zealand-economy-class-sleeping-pods
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i think you had a copy/paste failure with your link.