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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: Ragnar on January 04, 2020, 10:43:25 PM

Title: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on January 04, 2020, 10:43:25 PM: All Eureka, 28mm.

(https://imgur.com/ZobTRdc.jpg)
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Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on January 04, 2020, 10:47:46 PM: Err, now my imgur links aren't working. >:(

Edit: they didn't have the .jpg extension. ;D
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Andrei1975 on January 05, 2020, 01:19:59 AM: Very beautiful work. My congratulations!
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Post by: von Lucky on January 05, 2020, 03:11:09 AM: They look sexy. What rules are you thinking of using?
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Post by: Ragnar on January 05, 2020, 04:04:57 AM: Cheers lads.

@Von Lucky; currently, Triumph and Tragedy with the WSS (61) article on the Trojan war or Lion Rampant with the WSS (82) Chariot rampant variant.
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Post by: Burnin Coal on January 05, 2020, 07:45:20 AM: Very nice brushwork...I especially like the line of armoured figures
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on January 05, 2020, 09:37:46 AM: Quote from: Ragnar on January 05, 2020, 04:04:57 AM
Triumph and Tragedy with the WSS (61) article on the Trojan war

Wow, been ages since we devised these amendments for our game at Hamburg Tactica… 2012? o_o Pleased to know that someone gives them a try. :)
A very fine force so far, very well painted. The reins on the chariot are a nice touch.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on January 05, 2020, 10:20:52 AM: Thanks for the compliments, gents.

@Mad Doc, any game photos from 2012 online? Also curious about unit sizes since I haven't played T&T yet.
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Post by: Irregular Wars Nic on January 05, 2020, 12:26:38 PM: Those are lovely!
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Post by: Warboss Nick on January 05, 2020, 05:36:36 PM: Very nice work indeed!
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Post by: Ragnar on January 05, 2020, 09:49:56 PM: Thanks chaps.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on January 05, 2020, 10:04:42 PM: Quote from: Ragnar on January 05, 2020, 10:20:52 AM
@Mad Doc, any game photos from 2012 online? Also curious about unit sizes since I haven't played T&T yet.

Only a couple here (http://www.hamburger-tactica.de/alt/tactica/img/fotos_2012/Troja/gallery.html). We never got round to taking photos ourselves – obviously too busy game-mastering. :D Seeing the table now (which was done in a hurry just the night before), we had better looking games thereafter…
Re unit sizes, IIRC the article provides our warbands as samples. We used four to ten or twelve men per 'squad', but you can go bigger with T&T.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on January 05, 2020, 10:13:51 PM: Quote from: Mad Doc Morris on January 05, 2020, 10:04:42 PM
Only a couple here (http://www.hamburger-tactica.de/alt/tactica/img/fotos_2012/Troja/gallery.html). We never got round to taking photos ourselves – obviously too busy game-mastering. :D Seeing the table now (which was done in a hurry just the night before), we had better looking games thereafter…
Re unit sizes, IIRC the article provides our warbands as samples. We used four to ten or twelve men per 'squad', but you can go bigger with T&T.

Awesome, thanks Doc
Title: Re: Achaean/Mycenaean project - small update
Post by: Ragnar on April 02, 2020, 11:13:55 AM: The first of the spearmen roll of the line. 28mm Redoubt.

(https://i.imgur.com/1CT0ZYq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eRUU4fr.jpg)
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Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: pogo on April 02, 2020, 12:01:42 PM: can I ask, what are you using for the reins on the chariot ?
Alex
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on April 02, 2020, 12:19:04 PM: Quote from: pogo on April 02, 2020, 12:01:42 PM
can I ask, what are you using for the reins on the chariot ?
Alex

Ah, glad you asked. :) It's standard copy paper cut into thin strips, super glued in place. I then run super glue over all of the reins, so it soaks in. I *hope* this will be provide a strong enough model if used with care.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: DintheDin on April 02, 2020, 03:27:04 PM: Quote from: Ragnar on April 02, 2020, 12:19:04 PM
Ah, glad you asked. :) It's standard copy paper cut into thin strips, super glued in place. I then run super glue over all of the reins, so it soaks in. I *hope* this will be provide a strong enough model if used with care.

Very inspiring idea!
Your work is top notch! Neatly painted figures and I like how you made the hide on the shields and the wood grain! Cheers!
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Post by: Ragnar on April 02, 2020, 08:55:49 PM: Thanks Din!
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Post by: Marine0846 on April 03, 2020, 02:24:35 AM: Love your figures.
Look forward to seeing more.
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Post by: DivisMal on April 03, 2020, 07:23:37 AM: Those ox-hide shields are really ace painted! And from your pictures, I must say that I rather like the Redoubt models. On their HP the figures don’t look that good.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on April 03, 2020, 08:27:29 AM: Thanks gents.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on April 04, 2020, 11:27:16 PM: Another small update, finanly finished this small group of spearmen. 28mm Redoubt

(https://i.imgur.com/d4KgkPt.jpg)
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Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: marianas_gamer on April 05, 2020, 12:53:22 AM: Very nicely done on those spearmen :-* I really like the shields!
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on April 05, 2020, 02:06:00 AM: Quote from: marianas_gamer on April 05, 2020, 12:53:22 AM
Very nicely done on those spearmen :-* I really like the shields!

Thank you sir!
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on April 24, 2020, 03:51:25 AM: Another Achaean chariot. 28mm miniatures by Eureka from the Bronze Age Greeks range

(https://i.imgur.com/nvcrHCp.jpg)
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Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Tonhel on April 24, 2020, 10:05:59 AM: Very nice!
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Post by: DintheDin on April 24, 2020, 10:06:39 AM: Excellent paint jobs and great pics!
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Post by: Ragnar on April 24, 2020, 10:32:48 AM: Thanks chaps. :)
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Post by: Burnin Coal on April 24, 2020, 11:16:54 AM: Quote from: DintheDin on April 24, 2020, 10:06:39 AM
Excellent paint jobs and great pics!

I’ll second that....great project too
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Post by: Bloggard on April 24, 2020, 11:20:00 AM: great face on the chariot driver!
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on April 24, 2020, 11:33:39 AM: thanks for the compliments. :)
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Post by: von Lucky on April 28, 2020, 12:43:27 PM: Lovely wood details (chariots and spears). Well, lovely overall.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on April 29, 2020, 11:31:48 AM: Cheers mate. :)
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Post by: Corso on May 10, 2020, 02:39:25 PM: Really like this project :-*

Love the painting especially the animal hide - looks so natural!
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on May 10, 2020, 09:31:47 PM: Thanks Corso.
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Post by: Eoin OCnaimhsi on May 11, 2020, 11:07:34 AM: Fantastic painting.

The redoubt spearmen seem really nice.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on March 07, 2021, 11:36:17 PM: Thanks Eoin.

The latest addition to the Mycenaean/Achaean warband. 28mm minis by Eureka and Redoubt Enterprises.
And a photo of the warband.
(https://i.imgur.com/SEUQdM7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gEkdIuN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PuLOsrl.jpg)
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Hu Rhu on March 08, 2021, 01:45:43 PM: Very nice painting.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Jjonas on March 08, 2021, 07:55:04 PM: Quote from: Ragnar on April 02, 2020, 12:19:04 PM
Ah, glad you asked. :) It's standard copy paper cut into thin strips, super glued in place. I then run super glue over all of the reins, so it soaks in. I *hope* this will be provide a strong enough model if used with care.

I like these, well done.
As for reins of working game figures. My old solution was to cut up old lead paint tubes. Flatten then cut into strips. But now that is harder to find.
Now I use foil from wine bottle covers, flattened and burnished. But now I don't do wine, so that's out.
I'm looking for a hobby solution since I need to do some reins.
In my area paper infused with glue always breaks down over time to the coastal climate and super dry periods. I have tried white glue, super glue, and various clear coats with limited success. The metal one stay around. They may come unattached but they don't dissolve entirely.

Linked is an example of lead sheet reins.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on March 09, 2021, 09:01:30 AM: Thanks for the comments chaps.

Jjonas; thanks for the tips, some more to think about.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Jjonas on March 09, 2021, 05:36:44 PM: Just a quick photo of the process:

Burnish the wine bottle foil.
Tape an edge and cut into 1mm (or so) strips.

The end result is a bendable strap that can be placed, glued, and holds its shape.

I prime with gloss white to give these real solid base.

I intend to write this up fo the website soon. But this is about as complicated as it gets. The great part is one can glue the ends on the blind sides, you don't need knots, and they stay stuck. Also a good technique for adding sword straps and flaps to figures. There I like to fill in with white glue to give it paintable depth.
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Post by: Jjonas on March 09, 2021, 11:00:14 PM: Here is a method using dental floss:

https://www.relicminiatures.com/2018/06/14/seleucid-chariot-project/?fbclid=IwAR2PD04CRTmi6BZ9mzc30k_ny-i6U1Q-RXPSrVQ9fulGzaP8dssXzo0CIKo
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Fremitus Borealis on March 10, 2021, 07:05:57 PM: I was just thinking about doing some horse reins and weapon straps, so this is good timing for me! :D I was thinking of trying bread ties.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Irregular Wars Nic on March 11, 2021, 05:26:12 PM: Great looking warband there!
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Post by: Ragnar on March 11, 2021, 07:52:38 PM: Thanks Nic!
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Post by: Ragnar on February 09, 2022, 01:24:26 AM: Finally got to use the warband last weekend.

"Raiding parties of the enigmatic Sea People had been seen making landings in Mycenaean territory. The Wanax Demonax sallied forth from his stronghold to deal with the threat. Two ferocious battles were fought before the raiders were either slaughtered or pushed back into the sea, victory each time to Demonax the Destroyer, increasing his prestige and power... but not without cost."

(https://i.imgur.com/cX5krnS.jpg)
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Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: SJWi on February 09, 2022, 05:35:01 AM: Ragnar, very nice. What rules were you using?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on February 09, 2022, 07:55:06 AM: Quote from: SJWi on February 09, 2022, 05:35:01 AM
Ragnar, very nice. What rules were you using?

Cheers.

Oops, would have been handy to mention the rules. We used the Chariot Rampant addons to Lion Rampant.

Thanks for the comments. :)
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: tikitang on February 09, 2022, 11:11:40 AM: Very nice!

Those are Newline Designs Sea People, am I right?
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on February 10, 2022, 12:59:02 AM: Quote from: tikitang on February 09, 2022, 11:11:40 AM
Very nice!

Those are Newline Designs Sea People, am I right?

Yes mate, I believe they are.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: DivisMal on May 16, 2022, 05:49:10 AM: I see, I am late for the party, but that still looks marvelous!
Can the Chariots Rampant rules be found online?
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: Ragnar on May 16, 2022, 07:35:52 AM: Thanks DivisMal.

As far as I know, the addon rules are only available through buying Wargames Soldiers and Strategy issue 82, which you can get in PDF from Karwansaray publishing.
Title: Re: Achaean - Mycenaean project
Post by: DivisMal on May 16, 2022, 04:16:38 PM: Quote from: Ragnar on May 16, 2022, 07:35:52 AM
Thanks DivisMal.

As far as I know, the addon rules are only available through buying Wargames Soldiers and Strategy issue 82, which you can get in PDF from Karwansaray publishing.

Okay, thanks. I just found them. Since it’s a pdf, it won’t take weeks to arrive and customs and handling fee.

I am tempted!