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Title: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on January 31, 2020, 01:17:37 PM
Hello everyone! Hope you find something useful in my little corner of Frostgrave and Shadow Deep! Feel free to suggest/critique/encourage/ask questions!

Here are some pictures of my terrain so far, all of it is scratch built stuff to make a shadow deep or frostgrave table, I'm house-ruling shadow deep campaigns happen on a very cold autumn so I can justify the snowy effect  ;)

The little cottage was a lot of fun to build and I desperately need more little buildings for Shadow Deep. It's cardboard, filler, coffee stirrers, hot glue for the roof and some 3D pen details.
The low walls are foam brisks and hot glue.
The rock formations are tree bark.
The trees basically follow the tutorial from beasts of war I think with wooden dowels, big metal washers and hot glue for the root textures.
The well, the pool (picture 1), the wizard's desk, furniture and dungeon scatter (picture 3) are all from 'crooked staff publishing'. He has amazing tutorials on youtube and it's all free on Wargame Vault.

Then those modular ruins which can be piled up into a tower and completely disassembled are scratch build from a sturdy kind of black foam i found online.
The box is a Chinese moon cake box, covered with textures from WorldWorksGames printed out on sticker paper and wrapped around or cut to size. The inside dividers are made from sturdy foam material and can be used as walls or something like an aqueduct bridge. The modular ruins from the other picture fit snugly inside because I'm an idiot and fancied myself an engineer.

Now it's time for dinner so I'll post the miniatures I have completed so far tomorrow! And hopefully some campaigns later this spring!

PS: I hope I'm doing this right, wouldn't want to break any forum rules on day 1.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 01, 2020, 01:43:29 AM
Tough crowd eh?

The miniatures for encounters and pets so far:
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: LeadAsbestos on February 01, 2020, 01:48:43 AM
Nice stuff! Glad to see you leaping in to the game, as it is really my favorite thing going right now.

So, where are the Rangers? :)
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 01, 2020, 01:59:24 AM
Nice stuff! Glad to see you leaping in to the game, as it is really my favorite thing going right now.

So, where are the Rangers? :)

Thank you LeadAsbestos! They are coming soon hopefully, all the pictures seem to be a bit blurry and probably don't need to be so big I'm trying to figure out the settings on the camera phone ... probably should find a tutorial somewhere!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 01, 2020, 04:40:19 AM
OMG, you can see so many things in pictures that my eyes don't even see when I'm painting. I wish the camera was lower quality  o_o

1-2: My ranger Azure, friendliest of the gray Elves (which by human standards means he's barely tolerable but his ability to get things done is attractive).
3: Cerulean the thief. He's from a big family of heritors but he didn't inherit anything other than a bad case of sea sickness and healthy fear of water. So when his family members heard of the reappearance of the archipelago you'll understand why he decided not to get on the boat.
4:Marcus the Arcanist and his love interest Ysabel. He drinks and he knows things, she has an axe and she's not afraid to use it!
5:Skanka and Dombas: Sister and Brother from the north looking to sell some furniture and maybe adventure a bit.
6:Ruff, Johrgrund, Korin and the Prior (special box from zombicide Jovem Nerd). Also from the North, Knight, Savage, Man-at-Arms and Templar.
7:Lord Bazak and Genevieve: take absolutely no gruff from anyone, it'll take a siege weapon to stop them.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Blackwolf on February 01, 2020, 05:26:17 AM
Nice painting and terrain Scatterbrains!
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Post by: Kublaibenzine on February 01, 2020, 07:21:07 AM
Lovely work! I must crack on with mine. Kudos for the imagination and energy!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: LiamFrostfang on February 01, 2020, 12:33:34 PM
 :o fabtastic stuff!!!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Bloggard on February 01, 2020, 04:55:22 PM
fabtastic  !!

gonna have to remember that one, excellent  lol

yeah - love all your stuff above. Very envious and look forward to seeing a fully laid out board.
like that you're using CMON boardgame minis too - I'm intending to do that.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Sterling Moose on February 01, 2020, 04:58:15 PM
Excellent!!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 02, 2020, 04:29:10 AM
Thanks for all the kind words guys!

@Bloggard: yes the CMON minis are perfect for it, that's what made me buy the books for frostgrave and RoS because I realized I already had a bunch of minis that fit the setting and it was a great excuse to deal with the unpainted stuff.
 As for a fully laid out table I hope soon ... it still looks a bit empty when I lay it out and waiting for a gaming matt in the mail. Need more trees and village buildings for RoS too!

I finished off Doctor Everett  (only needed basing and varnish) and built two little boats for I don't know what yet.

Dr. is from North Star Horror and I guess his hat doesn't fit the context but he's such a cool looking mini and this is 'Fantasy' so maybe use him as a necromancer or for a future temple of madness campaign with the extra spells for rangers. I think it's the mini I've most enjoyed painting ever so far!
The boats are from 'papier schnitzel' drivethru rpg, I have a paper cutter which makes these quite quick to put together.

Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Bloggard on February 02, 2020, 11:24:07 AM
oh yes - that's a fab miniature - nice paint-job.

boats are very well done - don't think I'd have known they were paper without you saying - how does the cutter help - it literally automates that part of things? Be good to see a photo of said machine if you ever get a chance.

I particuarly like the 'dungeon' inners you've shown above - they're looking great, and a 'full' set-up of them is going to be quite something...
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Post by: Swordisdrawn on February 02, 2020, 12:38:10 PM
Wonderful stuff. Love the ghouls :o
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: LiamFrostfang on February 02, 2020, 12:47:18 PM
 :o dig it!!!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Corporal Chaos on February 03, 2020, 02:55:29 AM
Very nice collection. Great painting on the figures. Great breakout into the forum.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 03, 2020, 01:38:21 PM
oh yes - that's a fab miniature - nice paint-job.

boats are very well done - don't think I'd have known they were paper without you saying - how does the cutter help - it literally automates that part of things? Be good to see a photo of said machine if you ever get a chance.

I particuarly like the 'dungeon' inners you've shown above - they're looking great, and a 'full' set-up of them is going to be quite something...

Merci l'ami!

Yup it automates the cutting part! took a couple times to calibrate cause I print on A4 and the documents were for Letter format but once you've found the right setting for your printer it's a breeze. Still some work to do to mount some parts on card paper or corrugated cardboard if you want them to be stronger. For the dungeon stuff better be patient! So much stuff to do already!

Here's a picture of the cutter in action (silhouette portrait)
And the trees I made last couple of days with wip pictures.
They are made of wooden sticks, hot glued to washers. Sculpted in some roots with the nozzle of the glue gun. Cut some squares out of green pan scourer material, put 2 squares together not aligned and cut out the protruding triangles at an angle with scissors. Then use the cut outs to bulk out the top and bottom. Then paint and used some coffee for the bases.
Tree stumps I was playing around with a cheap 3D pen (kinda like a 3doodler but dirt cheap) and filled up the gaps with hot glue and sculpted the sides with nozzle again. Turned out not too bad!

Next step village buildings and then I'm off to the shadow deep ... almost there.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Corporal Chaos on February 04, 2020, 02:20:59 AM
Really like the trees!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Bloggard on February 04, 2020, 10:28:07 AM
thanks very much prof.'  !

like the trees recipe, must say.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 05, 2020, 06:03:47 AM
Thanks yall! If you decide to go that route for the trees wear a mask, cutting the pan scourer creates a lot of very fine particles very messy. I think you can see it on the floor.

"As soon as you came within sight of the nameless village, you knew that something wasn't right." ROSD p.90

Here's some progress on the nameless village, I'm trying to make buildings without any paint, just the printer, cardboard and glue. Also trying to make the main structures foldable. This first test is made of a beastgrave box, perfect size for a little storage house I feel.

Most of the textures are from Crooked Staff production floors and walls pdf. some are just textures i googled up (like the roof) cropped and resized. The base holds the walls in shape nicely it'f quite sturdy.
Some wooden parts are made of match sticks colored with marker pen.



Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Bloggard on February 05, 2020, 10:48:58 AM
really excellent - this is very much the way I'd like to go if I had the crafting skills - particularly the fold-able bit!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: LiamFrostfang on February 05, 2020, 10:53:10 AM
 :o wow!!!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 05, 2020, 02:07:46 PM
It can be done! I learned a lot following crooked staff video tutorials, started making little tables and books and before you know it you get better at it and you start to improvise!

Without further ado, the table is ready, the tokens are randomized, the event cards are shuffled, the zombies are moaning and the rats are doing whatever the hell rats do (probably a green-stone-powered-human-vaporizing contraption or such) ... here we go  >:D

Title: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave (report)
Post by: scatterbrains on February 06, 2020, 05:05:48 AM
A bloody affair,

1- The plan:
Azure (Ranger), Korin (Man-at Arms) and Blue (Hound) head to the old ruins on the hill just North East of the village. Cerulean (Rogue), Skanka and Dombas (Archer and Recruit) head South East to the locked storage house. Ysabel (recruit) thinks she saw something in the woods to the South West and Marcus (Arcanist) follows her tightly ... as he always does  :-*.

2-3-4- First Blood:
Azure spots a shambling corpse coming out of the cold dark wood, he takes a deep breath and let's go of the bow string. The arrow finds it's mark and the corpse shambles no more. On the other side of the hill Blue, quick as lightning, jumps on another undead and rips it's head clean off. Meanwhile Marcus spots an aberration threatening beautiful Ysabel, he charges in and clears the way to the forest.

5-6-7- Death Strikes Back
In the middle Skanka and Cerulean shoot down a zombie and a rat respectively but soon get overwhelmed as more tenacious living impaired bodies press on. Dombas Saves his sister from one of them but a rabbid giant rat takes him out before he can recover. They later find a survivor in the woods but as the party was regrouping he couldn't keep up and another surprisingly vicious rodent pulls him down and back into the woods.

8- With their tails between their legs
The zombie surge kept intensifying, Azure finally using Halt Undead to carve a path and run away from the overrun village. But at what cost!

AFTERMATH:
Cerulean dies ... RIP
Blue fought valiantly but is Badly Wounded AND Deseased ... miss next game
Korin gets a Crushed Arm but resists the infection ... -1 Fight
Dombas gets infected by his rat wounds ... -3 Health, -1 to all rolls

Azure finds a potion of Heroism and Avantine's magic sword, 83 XP

Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Bloggard on February 06, 2020, 12:39:33 PM
yes - great looking board.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 08, 2020, 02:44:57 AM
yes - great looking board.

Thanks Bloggard! It's nice when it all comes together! I wish the mat had a bit more green or something in it, feels like the overall thing is missing something. Let me know if you see something you would add or change, I can't quite put my finger on it.

Updates:

The shadow deep has some streams in it so here are some WIP river sections. One of them is made of cardboard, the others stiff black foamcore (i think it's harder than foamcore not sure what it is really). Printed out some rivers from worldworks games hinterland set (i think they out of business?) then cut the bases and glued the rivers on. now finishing off with sand and waiting for paint. I could have skipped the sand to be honest, if you make the base the right size and wrap the river texture around the back when you glue it on it looks good enough.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Bloggard on February 08, 2020, 06:36:04 PM
some weighted stands of lichen perhaps?
river sections look great.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 09, 2020, 03:53:05 AM
some weighted stands of lichen perhaps?
river sections look great.

Ah yes, I think I see what you mean, that will add some greenery! I don't have any right now but i'll see what i can find!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Bloggard on February 09, 2020, 11:51:29 AM
you can get it in a myriad of shades from hobby suppliers these days - the dyes used seem to result in rather a persistent pong tho' ...
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Post by: FreakyFenton on February 09, 2020, 06:12:26 PM
Cool!  :o
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 10, 2020, 04:32:32 PM
Thanks for the comments gents! I'm still looking for the right kind of Lichen (live in china not that easy) hope to find something soon ... are they durable?

Anywho here are some more guys I picked up because they looked like they are dying to shamble out of a Frostgrave tomb! Took longer to paint than I thought, and bloody hell GW bases are annoying to paint ... You think you're done but noooo here are some bones and rocks and fiddly bits to paint around grrr...

 
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 11, 2020, 02:04:28 PM
Some giant tree trunks and finished the river, they could use some shrubs and bushes but haven't found what i need yet. Might have to find some cheap sponges and tear them apart and paint em ...

Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: LiamFrostfang on February 12, 2020, 09:38:03 AM
 8) way cool...looks great!!!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Bloggard on February 12, 2020, 10:31:40 AM
lichen - durable, no so much, unless you soak it in pva (which I've done for tree foliage and it worked well enough - helps with the pong too probably).

although having said that, it doesn't shread that easily once the very loose stuff has come off - my brother has stands of lichen in its naturally soft state, and they seem to wear well. They certainly pack down very well for storage as you can imagine.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Bearwoodman on February 12, 2020, 12:19:44 PM
I like the trees and the river - that water looks clear and fast flowing (but cold if you fell in). What colours did you use for the water?
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 12, 2020, 12:28:16 PM
I like the trees and the river - that water looks clear and fast flowing (but cold if you fell in). What colours did you use for the water?

I cheated  ;) the water is a printout from a set of paper terrain company that hasn't done anything since 2013:

http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/index.php?view=product&product=41

@bloggard: Thanks for the advice! I found a provider and they have so many colors ... Hopefully I'll have some soon

@LiamFrostfang: Glad you like it, thank you for the support!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Bearwoodman on February 12, 2020, 12:59:39 PM
Thanks for the link Scatterbrains, they look great!
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Post by: Bloggard on February 12, 2020, 02:11:38 PM
blimey those rivers are indeed brilliant.

and 'I don't believe it' - I've been looking for good card stand-up terrain, wondering if that approach had any mileage - pretty much drawn a blank (for trees etc) and thought I'd seen everything.

shame they've not continued the line ... !

* - ah, I see, they were the people behind the Terraclips stuff - such a shame that's disappeared too ...
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 12, 2020, 02:33:13 PM
blimey those rivers are indeed brillaint.

and 'I don't believe it' - I've been looking for good card stand-up terrain, wondering if that approach had any mileage - pretty much drawn a blank (for trees etc) and thought I'd seen everything.

shame they've not continued the line ... !

* - ah, I see, they were the people behind the Terraclips stuff - such a shame that's disappeared too ...

Yeah I liked terraclips Malifaux stuff ... I missed the boat on those but living in apartment and moving often that product would have been perfect.

For trees I like this guy's approach better:

https://crookedstaff.blogspot.com/2018/10/print-paste-wilderness-terrain-trees.html

I'm gonna make a few of those to add variety to my growing forest (when i'm not in the mood for painting) and I like the look of his scatter terrain.
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Post by: Bloggard on February 12, 2020, 02:59:41 PM
hmm, yes, interesting!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Chimpfoot on February 12, 2020, 08:29:56 PM
What a cracking thread
Brilliant work!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 13, 2020, 08:45:18 AM
What a cracking thread
Brilliant work!

Thanks Chimpfoot! Glad you like it ^.^

Here are some brimstone horrors as I work on reducing the pile of unpainted plastics ... When I read the Dark Alchemy solo scenarios I though I'd replace the monsters with Tzeentch daemons as it would make sense for the lord of Change to be interested in Felstad ...

Maybe not my best stuff but nobody is gonna stare at them for hours  ;D and tried something different on the bases.

Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 14, 2020, 12:56:18 PM
After painting 10 silly flame boys I felt like having a go at a nice miniature! I'm happy with her!

Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 14, 2020, 02:29:39 PM
I think I'm getting closer at the taking a picture thing ... argh ... if any of you see any obvious signs that i'm doing something wrong with the camera (phone) setting do let me know. At least in this one can see her eyes  :D

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Post by: jp1885 on February 14, 2020, 02:56:51 PM
Really nice work so far - bravo!
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Post by: LiamFrostfang on February 15, 2020, 10:58:43 AM
 8) very cool...good pic as well!!!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 16, 2020, 10:21:26 AM
Thanks JP and Liam!

Here's the lady's pet and a group photo ... I need to think of names but I'm leaning towards Forstgrave Necromancer and Apprentice? Could be the start of a warband.

Also some papercraft tombs just because, still from crooked staff publishing!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Chimpfoot on February 16, 2020, 10:25:10 AM
Looks good to me  :)
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Bloggard on February 16, 2020, 10:36:55 AM
really looking great.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 18, 2020, 10:43:50 AM
Thank you gents! I like em too!

Just set up the second scenario, with new carpet  ;D and a different deck of cards ... hope the lady of the lake has blessed my party!

WISH me luck.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Bloggard on February 19, 2020, 09:29:26 AM
really good 'look' to the table. Propah stuff!

nice deck of cards.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 19, 2020, 01:01:17 PM
Thanks Bloggard! The matt bellow although very nice has too much going on ... its a bit distracting and overwelming. I was longing for some green! These carpet puzzle pieces were so cheap ... maybe i can dirty them up a bit somehow to give them a bit of depth without being too detailed.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: joe5mc on February 20, 2020, 12:10:42 PM
Loads of great stuff to look at and read in this thread!
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Post by: scatterbrains on February 21, 2020, 06:37:42 AM
Loads of great stuff to look at and read in this thread!

 :o

Thank's a lot! That is high praise indeed coming from the creator, and your games have been especially great to get through the boredom of staying home during the coronavirus!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Bloggard on February 21, 2020, 10:54:06 AM
blimey ... well, yes.

quite like those jigsaw like grass tiles  :)
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 24, 2020, 04:22:50 PM
blimey ... well, yes.

quite like those jigsaw like grass tiles  :)

They really are useful and look good enough! Apparently you can wash them too ...

Work has come back with a vengeance this week, all I had time to do since last update is a couple of unfinished Oathmark goblin test models. I resized them with GIMP which changed the file type, let's see if they still show up!

Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 24, 2020, 04:26:46 PM
hum ... guess not? at least I don't see them ...

Guess I won't resize them then.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 25, 2020, 04:26:42 AM
the end of measurements !

played dark souls board game at a friends place last week and they just put a dot where people can stand ... so i made a template for dotting the centers of a 1 inch hex pattern on those mats (they are 30 cm squares but the puzzle transitions made me think for a while) This is really gonna speed up play!

Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: Corporal Chaos on February 26, 2020, 02:30:56 AM
Now that is a handy idea.
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 26, 2020, 04:08:20 AM
Now that is a handy idea.

Thanks Corporal!

I'm having a lot of fun with it ... it opens up lots of possibilities for house-rules as well ... monsters cover three dots so some areas might be too tight for them to pass through but they can block passage better too (bridges and tunnels come to mind/ and giants covering 6 dots) which works ... I'm thinking of adding a spear that has a "range" for support and that can also have longer "reach' for forcing combat.

Hex is inconvenient for making buildings but there are ways around that too I think. like square grid in buildings (with special rules maybe advantaging daggers and penalty for pole/2 handed weapons to represent they are more cumbersome in tight places) OR break buildings and terrain pieces in 'rooms' where one action moves you one room away like on a zombicide map and you can place your model anywhere in that room or fight anyone who is already in that room ... possibilities ...

All you need is to determine the entry points of these terrain peices from the main hex mat ... hum ...

Anyway here they are piled up, spread out and in action view; Do you think the dots distract a bit too much or are they easy enough to ignore?
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: Chimpfoot on February 26, 2020, 11:15:16 AM
What a great idea to pinch :)
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 26, 2020, 12:53:26 PM
lemme know if you do!

one thing to keep in mind though is that from the middle of a tile it takes.more steps to get to the edge in one direction than the other ... i wish id thought of it earlier  o_o

could have been fixed by stretching the hexs more that way (11 rows instead of 13)

might redo it    :o

forgot attach ... guy on pic is 32 mm base
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on February 27, 2020, 04:51:01 AM
Train of thought:

Wake up in middle of night thinking "fool of a Took, if you used a square grid you could just count diagonals as a 1.5 inch move and call it a day!"

later that night ... 'yeah but i dont like how crowded it gets on a square grid with bigger bases and potentially 8 minis surrounding 1. and its cool that a troll can cover 3 dots and a giant can cover 7... it just loooks cleaner'

after morning coffee kicked my scrawny butt: 'of course! theres nothing wrong with the grid! why would you even think of even changing its shape! YOU HAVE TO STOP THINKING SQUARE!'

and so there it is ... i massacred my by boy with a pair of scissors!

from now on im playing on a hex table ... this one is 37 inches from opposite corner, just 1 inch over 3 feet ... and hopefully i can finally sleep properly this week.
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: Corporal Chaos on February 28, 2020, 03:33:57 AM
Wow. This is a really neat project to try. Given the time and if I can locate the material.... And to answer your question from earlier.. No the dots are not distracting at all. Maybe use a darker shade of green rather than black?
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on March 02, 2020, 11:26:09 AM
Wow. This is a really neat project to try. Given the time and if I can locate the material.... And to answer your question from earlier.. No the dots are not distracting at all. Maybe use a darker shade of green rather than black?

It really is neat to try! Don't know if the tiles are easy to find in Europe or America ... they are certainly very common in Asia. And yes I started painting the dots in grey, brown and green now and they look good enough!

Today a friend came by and started a ranger. His name is 'Erb ... because he found some herbs. Here's a picture of the HEX board in action for scenario 2 (the infected trees). Not measuring was great ...

Now our rangers are going to meet up and head out to the Beacon Tower. It seems we're going to need a lot of elevation ("into the boulder-filled maze known locally as 'the Scree'. [...] large rocks cut line of sight down to just a few yards in most places) so I just put together some cardboard hills with the usual printed paper textures and added the hex grid to it! Lemme know what you think.
The big ones fit together like Russian dolls.

Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on March 02, 2020, 12:45:33 PM
Plenty of great stuff in this thread. I particularly like your adventurers.
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: Corporal Chaos on March 03, 2020, 05:16:30 AM
Those hills are great! East to store and very useful. Wow, I think I will use your technique.... well give it a try when I can. Looks very good. Rocky bits and the dots/ distance markings do appear to make it so much easier . What do you do for the fractions in movement ? Round the number or place the model between marks?
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on March 03, 2020, 10:25:18 AM
Those hills are great! East to store and very useful. Wow, I think I will use your technique.... well give it a try when I can. Looks very good. Rocky bits and the dots/ distance markings do appear to make it so much easier . What do you do for the fractions in movement ? Round the number or place the model between marks?

Thanks for the interest Corporal! I'll do a step by step when  I make the next hill ^.^!

I just round the number, this time we rolled a dice to decide wether to round up or down for this mission. It might be a bit difficult to manage with figures halfway between dots? It's not perfect for sure, only 6 axis where the distances are “true“ but it was amazingly quick and no trees fell over!
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on March 03, 2020, 10:34:28 AM
Plenty of great stuff in this thread. I particularly like your adventurers.

Thanks a lot Rick! I've been in a terrain building mood more than painting these few weeks but hopefully I'll have more adventurers painted up soon!
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: Bloggard on March 03, 2020, 05:06:13 PM
really nice combo of stuff terrain-wise.
kind of missed why you went to the hex shape bit - will come back to that later when brain kick-starts again.
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on March 08, 2020, 05:17:15 AM
really nice combo of stuff terrain-wise.
kind of missed why you went to the hex shape bit - will come back to that later when brain kick-starts again.

Thanks Bloogard, the reason I went hex ... I'm still not entirely sure myself. I tried to sum it up to myself and failed ... It just feels right. On a square table, movement would be in a straight line and faster from North to South, and in a slight zig-zag and slower from East to West. It becomes much less noticeable if the play area is round or hex shaped because you no longer think about it in those 2 directions...

Other than that, slow week this week, halfway through painting 5 Oathmark Goblins, and about 90% finished the hills I want for the next RoSD mission. Hopefully will finish stuff on my days off Monday Tuesday ...
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: Bloggard on March 08, 2020, 10:37:30 AM
well, tbh, I'm always a fan of hexes whatever the reason, so more power to you. As mentioned, table's looking really good.
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on March 08, 2020, 01:52:08 PM
we should start a hex fan club  ;D

Anywho finished off the hills, here they are in storage mode with room to spare inside for some scatter terrain, and spread out on the table:

Tomorrow 5 goblins to finish and some board gaming at a friend's place.
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: tin shed gamer on March 08, 2020, 03:13:05 PM
I'm a bit of a fan of these types of builds. Simple effect,and useful.
I'd love to see you just increase the versatility of these buy applying a little interior detail so the upturned larger hills could function as caves or dungeons.

Mark
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on March 08, 2020, 03:43:02 PM
I'm a bit of a fan of these types of builds. Simple effect,and useful.
I'd love to see you just increase the versatility of these buy applying a little interior detail so the upturned larger hills could function as caves or dungeons.

Mark

Excellent idea ... I think it could still be managed! Probably not this week though ^.^
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on March 10, 2020, 11:03:53 AM
Goblins!

Cool models, need to find a more efficient way to paint them though! And struggled finding focus tonight, light must not be as good as last time I took pictures.

Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: Bloggard on March 10, 2020, 11:49:33 AM
proper green goblins. Stan (Lee) would be happy. Excellent.

going back to your board - yes, really do love that look:
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: Bloggard on March 10, 2020, 11:51:49 AM
pic:


Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: tin shed gamer on March 10, 2020, 11:55:10 AM
I do like the limited colour scheme it's nice to see blue on goblins.
Just a little after thought on your hills.If you do manage to find the time to add to them. You might want to consider doors/cave entrances that slot over the side wall of your hills.(stops people asking how you get in and doesn't impact on the modular nature of your work.)
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on March 10, 2020, 12:26:59 PM
@Bloggard: thanks man! I've never been able to paint goblins a different color! It's just engraved in my mind ... goblins be green. I actually did a 50 50 mix of Vallejo flat green and flat earth for that skin tone, shaded by adding black and highlighted by adding flat skintone and then white.

@tin shed gamer: thanks for the comment! I did limit myself to only Vallejo flat colors for these. Flat blue, green, yellow, red. Always mixed with either flat brown or flat earth to make them more earthy! And black and white of course ... and some metal colors ... 8)

I think I know exactly what you mean for the doors. If you look at my very first post on pictures 4 and 5 those walls have door shaped insets that slide out. I think I'll make the same using crooked staff publishing cavern doors (they are on his cave tile set I think) for the hills.
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave (greenskins p.5)
Post by: scatterbrains on March 17, 2020, 12:29:44 PM
Ok it's been over a week! I've been trying to DIY some 'contrast' paints as I continue painting Gobs.

So I spread all of my inks and washes on a piece of paper to see what they really look like and then the idea is to use the washes (citadel and army painter) as a base and mix them with inks to strengthen them before applying. I prepared the models for the inks with 1) grey primer, 2) Earthshade Wash, 3) white drybrush before applying the inkwashy contrasts.

From left to right: vallejo game color red, violet, blue, green, yellow, skin wash INKS. Model color Smoke, Wood grain, Natural woodgrain.
The washes are: Nuln oil, Reickland fleshshade, agrax earthshade, Army painter, soft tone, green, blue, purple and red.

And a couple of pictures of 8 new goblins. It's not as clean as the last 5 but to be honest at arms length they kinda of look better ... the ones from the last batch look a bit dark on the table in comparison and were much more work!



Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave (DIY contrasts? p.6)
Post by: scatterbrains on March 17, 2020, 12:46:26 PM
And, my friend came buy with his Gnols, we managed to fight through the entire "The Beacon Towers" mission in one go!

It was an absolute BLOODBATH!
He came with a warhound and a savage, I came with an archer and a raptor. (we counted pets as half a companion otherwise we'd be limited to 3). In the first scenario for the bridge guards everyone was out of action except my ranger by the end of turn 6 I think. I ended up running around to the camp, kept winning fights without damaging so I pushed off and ran away until I got into their camp and picked up the scroll. And I promptly fail the roll to benefit from it ... total 18Xp on that one and rolled a 1 for my raptor's injury roll ... RIP

The picture is of a Man at Arms that showed up end of turn 1, tried to get away across the ford. He then held it for 2 turns against 2 Gnoll fighters but went down after killing one of them.

The bottom level of Tor Varden went great nothing much to note.

The upper level of Tor Varden was much like the Bridge Guard. Everyone died except my friend's Ranger ... We'd found a two handed Elemental weapon and some herbs to boost damage so the plan was to send in the Savage with that equipped to try to murder the evil knight, but on his first attempt the knight nonchalantly crushed his skull with a backhand blow (20) urgh ... And we rolled a 2 on his survival roll ... he had 4 progression points :'( AAAARGGGG
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave (RaiNyDay)
Post by: scatterbrains on May 11, 2020, 03:44:24 PM
rAInYdAY pictures, been a while! Lacked the motivation.

Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave (RaiNyDay)
Post by: Bloggard on May 11, 2020, 07:24:30 PM
crikey - missed those goblins - they're great  :-*

so those were done with your modded contrast paints? Look to have worked a treat.

* and your quote: "the ones from the last batch look a bit dark on the table in comparison and were much more work!"

this is the thing, isn't it?
Contrast paints and inky washes etc, really can 'work' at table-top distance etc.
I think a sad truth is that some of the exquisitely 'properly' painted figures you see around in pics etc (and in my collection - losing the exquisite bit!) do look a bit ... dull in that context.

from what I can see, you're really nailing it re: paintjobs.
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave (RaiNyDay)
Post by: scatterbrains on May 12, 2020, 09:56:57 AM

* and your quote: "the ones from the last batch look a bit dark on the table in comparison and were much more work!"

this is the thing, isn't it?
Contrast paints and inky washes etc, really can 'work' at table-top distance etc.
I think a sad truth is that some of the exquisitely 'properly' painted figures you see around in pics etc (and in my collection - losing the exquisite bit!) do look a bit ... dull in that context.

from what I can see, you're really nailing it re: paintjobs.

Thanks Bloggard! really appreciate the very thoughtful comment! Yes those goblins were painted almost completely with washes reinforced with inks and I'm glad you like them! I'm slowly learning that the context is more important than the 'quality' of the paint job. Nobody can actually see the detail that miniature photography shows ...

Here's a little scene with some of crooked staff publishing's latest little paper-craft dungeon terrain I made yesterday:

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uM5xjsfMhE

Always forget to link things ... it's a high quality video tutorial as usual and he deserves more views ^.^

Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave (RaiNyDay)
Post by: Bloggard on May 12, 2020, 10:25:09 AM
amazing - from the pics I wouldn't know they were paper!
Title: Re: Professor O's Ghost of Shadow-Grave (RaiNyDay)
Post by: scatterbrains on May 26, 2020, 03:36:51 AM
Here's a few pictures from last couple weeks.

GW's Kislev teasers have given me an urge to make some Tundra terrain ... so I made a couple of hills. I bought the grass tufts but the flocking and snow are homemade ^.^.

Assembled and based some Deus Vult Fireforge miniatures for a similarly themed warband. Probably for Frostgrave (there's a tracker metal miniature in there too)

Making some papercraft dungeon stackers using cardboard and some printable dungeon tile textures from crooked staff. Working on some 2 and 3 inch wide ones and might double the number of 1 inch wide ones sometime.

And finally making a cardboard building with some leftover boxes (italians make good shaving products) and going to use that project to do 30 minutes per day I think.

Could not spread myself thinner ...

Title: Ghosts of Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on May 27, 2020, 01:27:49 AM
Some progress on the 'proraso' village building. Nice deck for an archer to lay an ambush from and some egg carton stonework.



Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: Bloggard on May 27, 2020, 10:02:06 AM
More great stuff all 'round SB.
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on May 28, 2020, 08:47:13 AM
Thank you BG,

Finished stonework on lower part, added more planks and some windows on the tall part.
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 01, 2020, 03:47:14 PM
Meanwhile, on the other side of the house:

Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: twrchtrwyth on June 01, 2020, 04:52:17 PM
That's some amazing work.
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 02, 2020, 04:00:02 AM
That's some amazing work.

Thanks very mucho amigo! It's nothing terribly technical, just takes time!

Made the door this morning, found a keychain with twisted rings in a drawer for the door knob sooo I think this building will be "the Crooked Knob" village Inn. Unless someone advises otherwise?

I'll have to make a sign to hang off the side ...
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 03, 2020, 03:42:16 PM
Finished a side project so that's good ^.^

cardboard and paper dungeon stackers I guess inspired by black magic craft?

stairs sure, elevation no problem, bridge easy as, stadium why not?
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 04, 2020, 01:59:50 AM
Just got a box in the mail and this happened. My ocd is pleased but telling me to make a second set to fill it up.

Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 04, 2020, 07:43:34 AM
Shingles. Good way to turn off the brain for a  hour!
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: Bloggard on June 04, 2020, 08:18:04 AM
you're knocking out some fantastic stuff  :-*
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: joe5mc on June 04, 2020, 12:23:12 PM
So much good stuff in this thread!
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 05, 2020, 02:14:44 AM
Thanks Blogg and Joe!

The house is heavily inspired by a cardboard house made by the lady who did this:

https://www.boredpanda.com/i-made-a-pirate-ship-using-pizza-boxes/?utm_source=cn.bing&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic

I can't find the actual house right now it's on youtube and my VPN isn't connecting...

I added a proper chimney and railings for the balcony (because this isn't Middle Earth ^.^) and I think that's all for the build ... gonna have to start painting it now!

Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: Bloggard on June 05, 2020, 08:52:27 AM
really knock-out. Top class. Looking forward to seeing it daubed.
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: giles the zog on June 05, 2020, 09:57:51 AM
Great stuff - need to pull my finger out on a project started 19 years ago. :-O
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 05, 2020, 01:37:42 PM
Great stuff - need to pull my finger out on a project started 19 years ago. :-O

Thanks guys! And are you kidding Giles? I saw your lockdown foamboard builds and the only thing dirty on your finger has to be glue!  lol
What's the 19 year old project?
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: giles the zog on June 05, 2020, 06:29:46 PM
A great big Inn for Mordheim, obviously suitable for Frostgrave. I just need to do some tiling on the roof...
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: hubbabubba on June 06, 2020, 10:45:50 AM
Lots of really cook stuff running through this thread.

Keep it coming, I'm looking forward to seeing more innovations.
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 08, 2020, 04:37:45 AM
Thanks Hubba, I'll try to keep it creative  :D

And Giles looking forward to seeing the Inn! You have pictures of the build somewhere? Making roof tiles is really quite relaxing but I'm guessing your roof is gonna be a helluvalot bigger!

Bloggard here it is daubed! Not based yet but building and painting this thing made me feel fuzzy inside ... I highly recommend giving something like this a go in these strange times we are living!

Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: Bloggard on June 08, 2020, 08:40:38 AM
A real beaut'.  :-*
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: _Si_ on June 08, 2020, 09:42:42 AM
Just gone through the whole thread, some great stuff in here. I particularly enjoy when people get effective results from inexpensive materials :) Appeals to the tight Yorkshireman in me.

Also supremely jealous of your paper cutter. I've been after one for years every since I got some of the World Works Games stuff (they still exist?) that I never managed to cut out properly.

Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 08, 2020, 01:56:50 PM
Just gone through the whole thread, some great stuff in here. I particularly enjoy when people get effective results from inexpensive materials :) Appeals to the tight Yorkshireman in me.

Also supremely jealous of your paper cutter. I've been after one for years every since I got some of the World Works Games stuff (they still exist?) that I never managed to cut out properly.

Thanks Si, cheap projects give me most joy I think, maybe There's a tight Yorkshireman in all of us lol.

That papercutter is nice but I dont use it anywhere near as much as I should I'm afraid! Even with the cutter world works games designs arent as practical as they seem  :'(. Good textures for the odd project though!
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 08, 2020, 02:33:43 PM
And flocked for good measure. Last photo i swear  ::)

Edited to change photo ... still can't figure out how to get them to show upright when uploaded from phone.
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: LiamFrostfang on June 09, 2020, 10:08:30 AM
 :o amazing work!!!
Title: Re: Professor O's frosty-ghost-shadow-grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 11, 2020, 02:35:12 PM
some weighted stands of lichen perhaps?
river sections look great.

That was a while ago but i didnt forget!

I may however ... Have overdone it ...

And thank you Liam!

Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: Bloggard on June 11, 2020, 03:12:19 PM
always happens with Lichen - like bloomin' Tribbles  :D
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 11, 2020, 04:11:09 PM
I'm sharing this because it felt so good packing this up that I had to unpack it and do it again ...

Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 23, 2020, 03:30:56 PM
While i was beautifying my cardstock farmhouse from a warhammer project i decided to repaint and base some rocks and rebase some trees.

Also the grey warband from page 6 is getting close to being done. Maybe before this week is over.

Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: AKULA on June 23, 2020, 06:51:11 PM
What an excellent thread....ironically the dedicated Frostgrave board means I miss so many inspirational threads until every now and again, one pops to the top of the board.

Some lovely paint jobs, and builds...looking forward to watching your progress from now on

 :)

Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: Bloggard on June 24, 2020, 09:29:18 AM
+1

love the rocks.
and the trees are distinctive - I like 'em.
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 25, 2020, 02:43:42 PM
What an excellent thread....ironically the dedicated Frostgrave board means I miss so many inspirational threads until every now and again, one pops to the top of the board.

Some lovely paint jobs, and builds...looking forward to watching your progress from now on

 :)



Thanks a lot Akula! I'll be following your already impressive progress as well :P! Although less people come to the Frostgrave board I do find it easier to follow! In the fantasy board the sheer amount of daily post is a bit overwhelming!

+1

love the rocks.
and the trees are distinctive - I like 'em.

They are distinctive aren't they. Not sure why because I followed tutorials that have been done before but maybe this method is usually done for pine trees not so much leafy types (what are those even called ...). But I like 'em too, on a crowded table they get the job done nicely and they are basically unbreakable!

Anywho here are the archers of my maybe sort of Kislev style warband ... envoys of the Ice Queen perhaps searching the ruins of Frostgrave for some powerful spells to protect her lands? They might have to cross the Shadow Deep to get there though.

Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on June 25, 2020, 06:02:49 PM
Loving those minis mate! Nicely done!
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 26, 2020, 02:03:35 AM
Thanks Rick!

I was struggling with phone when I took that picture so here's another try with morning light and a backdrop. I feel the last pic didn't quite do them justice!

Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: Bloggard on June 26, 2020, 05:42:30 PM
lookin' good.

like the merv hughes look for the men at arms.
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 26, 2020, 11:32:56 PM
lookin' good.

like the merv hughes look for the men at arms.

Lol I had to look that up (the tribbles too and that kept me busy looking at silly pictures for a while)!

I'll have to paint a V neck sweater on the next one and put a cricket ball in his hand!  lol
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: Bloggard on June 27, 2020, 08:22:54 PM
 lol  if they take after him and sink a few more bevvies, your men-at-arms could sit on the oppostion if the bows don't do the job ...
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on June 29, 2020, 01:51:24 AM
Here is a shot of the 3 other men-at-arms (Knight, Templar, Crackshot)

These are technically my first kitbashes I guess? Bodies are Fireforge Russian Infantry, Crackshot Head is Fireforge Steppe Warrior, Crossbow and two handed Weapon are from Frostgrave Cultist and Soldier 1 boxes I think.

And a shot of the gang defending the Farmhouse (warhammer townscape building). Hopefully they didn't sink too many bevvies ... or maybe hopefully they did because these Yetis look like they're going to hurt.
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: mirjeki on June 30, 2020, 04:48:19 PM
Brilliant work here. This thread has keep me entertained (and procrastinating!) for a while now. Your terrain storage is pretty wonderful, I wish I had such neatly packed scenery.

Your new men-at-arms look great. I really like the knight's shield in particular for some reason - very neat paintwork.
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on July 02, 2020, 12:48:23 AM
Thank you sir! I was practicing glazing/feathering on the shield and it worked pretty good.
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: Hupp n at em on July 14, 2020, 07:17:27 PM
Really like that tower building, great use of that egg carton material!  :-*
Title: Re: Ghosts of the Shadow-Grave
Post by: scatterbrains on July 15, 2020, 01:33:52 PM
Thanks Hupp! That was a particularly fun project to work on and I will probably make more in that style in future.