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Miniatures Adventure => Age of the Big Battalions => Topic started by: armchairgeneral on February 14, 2020, 12:01:23 PM
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Noticed the Perrys have brought out some AWI Spanish. Very nice sculpts as usual though I struggling to find much information on Spanish troops fighting in the AWI. Can anyone recommend any sources of information apart from Wikipedia?
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Osprey - Spanish Army in North America 1700-1793.
By Rene Chartrand. Good background and uniform details so that's your starter for 10.
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Okay thanks.
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Oooh,wonder if these guys could move further southwest and take on a few Comanches?
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Apparently this book has become difficult find - but otherwise it ticks all the boxes. The Spanish versions I believe are easier to find.
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If you read Spanish you can find a mass - start with the authors of the book above and spread out - anything on Bernardo de Galves (ever wonder who Galveston was named after?) - several books were published a couple of years ago to coincide with a major exhibition on his career. You can also try googling "Yo Solo" which is a quote from one of his despatches.
Finally if you feel up to it, have a trawl around the site Todocoleccion - the site is available in several languages and is a sort of Spanish domestic EBay. You find masses of books on there at reasonable prices including some of the superb and now out of print volumes produced by the Spanish Defence Ministry (I have no idea how they can possibly afford the quality and volume of their production nor their prices - any commercial publishing house would go broke in 3 months!) - such as "El Ejercito de Carlos III" which is relevant to this period and is wall to wall uniforms - so even if you are shaky in Spanish still well worth it. Prices are usually pretty reasonable.
Good Luck
Quixote the Elder!
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They would do for regular or militia troops, but those pretty uniforms wouldn't last long out on the dusty plains. I'm no expert but beyond the cities I think troops like these seldom strayed.
I'd really like to see some cuera soldiers....c'mon lads...please!
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Just noticed these on the Perry website myself. Uniforms for Spanish forces in the AWI? Try this:
http://www.uniformology.com/WORLD-10-SPN.html
If you can excuse a mild diversion from your question and want to expand the useful range for these figures then they are useful for the 1774-76 campaigns in southern Brazil between Spain and Portugal, which saw much more sizeable forces and a lot more colour. Conveniently Portuguese forces can be made using AWI British troops, with very minor conversion and a different paint job. There’s a great little Osprey type tome on the subject with full uniform plates. If you are interested I can try and dig out my copy and give you the title.
There’s also a decent primer on the campaigns here:
https://docplayer.com.br/51560308-A-guerra-da-restauracao-do-rio-grande-do-sul.html
Google translate will be your friend.
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Plates here, if you use facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1550621988492017/
More info in this electronic magazine:
https://publicaciones.defensa.gob.es/media/downloadable/files/links/r/h/rhm_extra1_2016.pdf
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No books to recommend but a number of successful actions against the British in Florida, mostly west Florida and perhaps as far west as New Orleans and maybe up river to St. Louis (?). Perhaps also useful in Caribbean. I have a brigade of four Spanish regiments in my 15 mm AWI collection to be used in conjuction with my French, also in white, just wrong flags. But okay for hypotheticals. May try tracking some of the recommendations here.
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Thanks for all the comments so far.
So the Spanish fought the British in a number of separate relatively small engagements to the Americans. So these Spanish figures would be ideal for a M&T/R&P/SP force.
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Interesting stuff. Thank you all for the information.
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There’s a great little Osprey type tome on the subject with full uniform plates. If you are interested I can try and dig out my copy and give you the title.
I'd be very interested, if it's not putting you to too much trouble. Thanks for the link to that book on the subject.
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No books to recommend but a number of successful actions against the British in Florida, mostly west Florida and perhaps as far west as New Orleans and maybe up river to St. Louis (?). Perhaps also useful in Caribbean. I have a brigade of four Spanish regiments in my 15 mm AWI collection to be used in conjuction with my French, also in white, just wrong flags. But okay for hypotheticals. May try tracking some of the recommendations here.
Ehm... in fact there was a siege of St. Louis, and another big battle in Pensacola with thousands of troops at each side. There were raids as far north as Michigan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_St._Joseph_(Niles,_Michigan)#Spanish_Expedition_of_1781 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_St._Joseph_(Niles,_Michigan)#Spanish_Expedition_of_1781)), and there were also lots of battles in the Caribbean. Maybe those ones were closer to small engagements?
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Yuber Okami, I did not know about the Spanish getting that far north! Thanks for sharing.
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Anyone who can look at this print and not want to do something like it… well I suppose they deserve admiration for resolve...
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I think these books are some of the ones referenced above. It is worth looking through the rest of the range as there is a lot of interest for any enthusiast of Spanish military history - especially on the WSS and even one on the eponymous war of Jenkins' Ear!
You can order them in safety from this site
http://www.atlanticajuegos.com/
It is almost worth a visit to Madrid just to visit this shop - it is a wargamer's paradise, a real Ali Baba's Cave of goodies (the last time I was there I had to have part of the loot shipped home - there was no way any airline was going to let me on board with all that excess baggage! Not only that but they are lovely, helpful people!
If you don't fancy that option you should be able to get the books through Iberlibros -the Spanish incarnation of ABE Books…
The last book I have not seen but I shall rectify that asap.. it features the art of Spain's leading military artist and is smack on topic!
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Yuber Okami, I did not know about the Spanish getting that far north! Thanks for sharing.
Oh, well:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_expeditions_to_the_Pacific_Northwest
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Yep, the top one is the one that I was referring to. Osprey-ish format in Spanish.
Now to find the bloody thing. My wife has a mania for moving the bookshelves. :(
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I have the "Guerreros y Batallas" series books on Pensacola and the siege of Gibraltar and they are indeed very, very useful titles.
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Apparently this book has become difficult find - but otherwise it ticks all the boxes. The Spanish versions I believe are easier to find.
Just received my copy of Gálvez and Spain in the American Revolution from ABE books (thanks for the tip chokidar :)) for £20 which included postage from Spain. Looking forward to reading about this different area of the AWI.
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Yuber Okami, I did not know about the Spanish getting that far north! Thanks for sharing.
When you get to learn that the Ottoman Empire raided Terranova you end up realizing anything is possible lol
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Just received my copy of Gálvez and Spain in the American Revolution from ABE books (thanks for the tip chokidar :)) for £20 which included postage from Spain. Looking forward to reading about this different area of the AWI.
My pleasure - thanks for mentioning it! If I come across anything else in English I shall happily post it here!
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Here's a good book. http://battleofpensacola.com/
Mark
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It looks really interesting. Thank you for the tip!
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Your welcome.
Mark