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Miniatures Adventure => Back of Beyond => Topic started by: Byblos on February 15, 2020, 08:37:52 PM
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Hi all !
Do any of them know, or have they ever played The Perfect Captain's "Red Actions" rule?
And especially the version of "Pigmy wars" and the army lists that go with it !?
Same question with their "Beyond the river Don" campaign rule !?
What do you think !?
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I have them but haven't played them yet so disclaimer entered.
My understanding is the Pygmy Wars versions are the latest based on them playing it for some time. I plan on gaming in 6mm as it is my primary scale and I have lots of buildings etc.. I plan on playing a few games using counters at first just to make sure I want (need?) to buy into another period.
I have read it a couple of times and like what I have read. Not too deep but not shallow either. The leader's characteristics look to give more feel to the game and the level of interaction of leaders seems suitable. I am just starting to learn about the conflict so I am unsure about forces to collect or build up. I assume a couple games, more knowledge or finding some scenarios defining appropriate forces will help. I seem to recall something in the rules or BtRD supplement suggesting forces for introductory games.
Beyond the river Don looks like a good way to generate scenarios so I downloaded it as well. I have a couple other rules for the revolution but the scale of this, platoon size units using companies as the maneuver basis, is just where I want to be.
I hope some of this helps.
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I myself did not play by these rules, and I can not express my assessment. But the guys from Moscow played according to these rules with 28 mm figures and created their own modification of the game called "Steel Thunderstorms", created their own arm-lists and their own scripts for the game. In these modifications, some aspects of the Civil War in Russia are better taken into account (for example, lack of ammunition, frosts, "psychic attack", etc.) I have all this in the form of PDF, but ... in Russian. If you want, I can send you. I recommend using the Google translator for translation. If you will have any questions, I am ready to help.
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Thank you to you 2
Madman: I am preparing a campaign on the Volga campaign in 1918 (Komuch & Directoire vs Reds). the interest is that the strategic situation is very interesting, the manpower is still very weak, there are lots of original troops (Latvians, Chinese, Czech Legion, sailors, international volunteers ...) some cars and armored trains, a little aviation ... I would make it available free of charge on LAF, with map, OB and rules ...
Cuprum: this rule could interest me, and Google Trad works quite well with Russian (not like with Japanese!) I send you my email address by MP, and thank you once again ;-)
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Sent.
I agree. Any European languages can be read almost without problems (you just need a bit of habit). But Japanese or Chinese is some kind of darkness)))
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Well received Cuprum ! Many thanks !
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My group has played these rules a lot. They're our go-to ruleset for RCW. The unit cards that the Perfect Captain includes are gorgeous and really add to the games.
The only drawback we have found is that because units fight/fire by unit, there's no combined arms, so it's near impossible to get to the higher columns in the Combat Results Table where damage can be more severe. So it's an win-by-attrition system.
I have toyed with different initiative/activation methods but haven't tried them yet.
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Maybe it's a good thing that it's a win-by-attrition system, because by many aspects the RCW is a win-by-attrition war !
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Pardon my ignorance but is there a way to translate them and retain all the table layouts etc.? I rarely use translate but all I see it the ability to translate the text. This would mean copying the text, translating and creating a new file. Not a big deal but I was curious if it is possible to translate the entire pdf file retaining everything just changing the text. I know being lazy but I am curious about it. Thank you.
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Maybe it's a good thing that it's a win-by-attrition system, because by many aspects the RCW is a win-by-attrition war !
Ha! I knew someone would catch me on that. Yes, you're right. Most battles were win-by-attrition or by breaking morale.
It's just that PC gives you this beautiful CRT but you never get to use higher attack values. I have considered multiple activations per turn (fixed or random) so one side, for example, could fire at a unit then charge with cavalry in the same turn but haven't tried it yet.
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Ha! I knew someone would catch me on that. Yes, you're right. Most battles were win-by-attrition or by breaking morale.
It's just that PC gives you this beautiful CRT but you never get to use higher attack values. I have considered multiple activations per turn (fixed or random) so one side, for example, could fire at a unit then charge with cavalry in the same turn but haven't tried it yet.
Trying not to be critical for a petty reason but could units in that conflict really operate with that level of coordination? If so maybe they would have to start the turn in contact with each other then expend a leadership "bonus" to allow the two units to operate immediately after each other or in the same activation. Sorry but it has been a while since I read the rules so these ideas use concepts probably not in the rules as written but perhaps could be added with a simple modification.
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I usually play Red Actions! solo, or I'm moving for players in a play-by-e-mail game. In those cases I do activations by having cards for each unit and each card is taken at random from the shuffled deck to determine which unit moves. I also have a commander card, and the commander can choose any unit under his command to move. Because many of my games are lop-sided, this also deals with the distorting effect of one side having many more units than the other.
This means that sometimes combined actions come together, and sometimes they don't. Rather like much of the RCW, I think.
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The only drawback we have found is that because units fight/fire by unit, there's no combined arms, so it's near impossible to get to the higher columns in the Combat Results Table where damage can be more severe. So it's an win-by-attrition system
I haven't played but on read through of the rules a 5 or 6 strong platoon of a specialist company, e.g. White Officers, will reach the last two columns.
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Here are some photos of the Red Actions convention game that Schogun was talking about. Chuck (aka Schogun) did an outstanding job on the action/unit cards provided with the game. They are a fun set of rules and I would highly recommend them. BTW...The airplane is beautiful and part of Schogun's handiwork.
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Wow ! It's superb :-* Very inspiring !
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Great looking game. I recognise the Copplestone figures but who makes the others?
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Thanks, Bulldogger. (A fine paint job by him and friend Mike, too!)
We had the honor of running a game for the Perfect Captain brothers themselves at Historicon a few years back.
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The figures are Copplestone, 19th Century Miniatures, the Tschanka (sp) I believe is from Empress Miniatures, and the Russian Sailors are from a Boxer Rebellion line of figures from a long forgotten manufacturer. All of them mix together pretty well.
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The figures are Copplestone, 19th Century Miniatures, the Tschanka (sp) I believe is from Empress Miniatures, and the Russian Sailors are from a Boxer Rebellion line of figures from a long forgotten manufacturer. All of them mix together pretty well.
Thanks. 19th Century is a new one to me. I'll have to check them out. More variety is always good. :)
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The Tchanka is from Eureka and a little undersized, more like 25mm, but it looks great on the table!
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Trev.....Here is their website. You will find the figures under the heading of "Battle Honors" in the WWI range of figures. https://oldglory15s.com/
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Trev.....Here is their website. You will find the figures under the heading of "Battle Honors" in the WWI range of figures. https://oldglory15s.com/
Ok, found them. Thanks.