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Title: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: Von Stroheim on March 11, 2020, 12:40:58 AM
Disney's Jungle Cruise looks very 'pulpy'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjs6lKhedwg
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: FifteensAway on March 11, 2020, 12:51:57 AM
Looks pretty corny and I'm not a big fan of the actor but I'm not against him neither - but it also looks like a lot of fun so added to the list.  And I like Emily Blunt.  Clearly - very clearly - inspired by the Jungle Cruise ride.  Well, duh, "the back side of water"!  :D
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: Blackwolf on March 11, 2020, 02:06:16 AM
I have to say; that looks great 8)
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: Doug ex-em4 on March 11, 2020, 04:36:48 PM
Looks like fun but, as with just about all films made this century, I can’t make out what the hell theyre saying >:( >:( >:( . I wish there were subtitles on films shown in cinemas but I suppose the majority of viewers would find that distracting.

Doug
(Old, grumpy and deaf)
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: dadlamassu on March 11, 2020, 04:46:15 PM
Looks like fun but, as with just about all films made this century, I can’t make out what the hell theyre saying >:( >:( >:( . I wish there were subtitles on films shown in cinemas but I suppose the majority of viewers would find that distracting.

Doug
(Old, grumpy and deaf)

I have the same problem.  The current squad of directors & producers seem to have become addicted to the "Mumble School of dialogue" and the compound this by superimposing annoying music.  Both of which, I suppose, are designed to hide poor scripts and terrible characterisation.  That said the scenery looks good and when it appears on TV, Netflix, DVD I'll probably watch it with subtitles switched on.
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: Shahbahraz on March 11, 2020, 08:25:18 PM
Seconded on the noise thing. I have excellent hearing, but the combination of mumbling actors with superimposed music, and impenetrable accents; 'mockney' and 'boston' being the two worst, I need subtitles.
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: Doug ex-em4 on March 11, 2020, 09:47:20 PM
Not just me on the incomprehensible dialogue, then.  :)

As mentioned above, at least there should be a tv version which will give us the joy of subtitles. So one to look out for - thanks for the heads-up.

Doug
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: FifteensAway on March 12, 2020, 02:20:02 AM
As an amateur California movie maker with some knowledge of the pros, I can tell you the hardest piece of talent to find is a good soundman (or woman).  It is a rare skill and I think the issue has been ongoing for a good decade or more.  Luckily here locally - hundreds of miles north of Hollywood - we have a spectacular and highly in demand soundman but he is no spring chicken.  But he is a demon for perfection and I am so thankful to have been able to use his services on some of my projects. 

Boggles my mind why such an important skill has been allowed to go fallow in an industry where the specific talent is critical to a well made movie.  My best guess is because Hollywood makes movies for an international audience and most people watching are likely either hearing dubbed dialogue or reading subtitles.  Nothing else makes any sense.  But it's the shits for English speaking (and hearing) audiences.
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: Jerm on March 12, 2020, 01:53:24 PM
cue old man shouts at cloud memes

Also - for sure, the trailer looks like a fun pulp game waiting to happen, where the players can adjust their sound, dialogue, acting skills, miniature scale, griping, etc. to their own taste.
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: Wildman II on March 12, 2020, 08:16:38 PM
A slight nod to the African Queen?
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: zemjw on March 12, 2020, 08:37:19 PM
Looks like a good "switch off brain" movie :D
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: War In 15MM on March 13, 2020, 02:32:09 AM
If the whole movie looks this good, I'll watch it just for the visuals.  I believe my first ride on the Disney Jungle Cruise was in 1955 when the park opened.  As an annual pass holder for many years, I have been on the Jungle Cruise dozens of times, and it remains my favorite ride in the park.  What I have never understood is why Disney's marketing department, which marketed the parking lot tram, had never marketed a toy Jungle Cruise boat... in any scale.
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: SBRPearce on April 03, 2020, 12:58:08 PM
As someone also suffering from easily confused hearing (if there's background noise, speech and dialogue is incomprehensible), ask your theatre management about accessibility options.

Also, I don't thin k that the sound editing profession's been let to slide, just that ALL THE NOIZE is a cheap and easy way for directors to try to maximize the "impact" of the movie. When you can't get more involvement from a wooden script, more empathy from wooden performances, or interest from nonsensical action sequences, you can amp up response levels by blasting the customers in their seats...

One of my (many) objections to the movie "Sense and Sensibility and Zombies" was the fact that every punch that landed in the martial arts sequences sounded like someone slamming a sledgehammer into a sack of concrete. The whole film was asinine, but the sound design was just lazy and overblown...
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: GDonk on April 03, 2020, 04:50:10 PM
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One of my (many) objections to the movie "Sense and Sensibility and Zombies" was the fact that every punch that landed in the martial arts sequences sounded like someone slamming a sledgehammer into a sack of concrete. The whole film was asinine, but the sound design was just lazy and overblown...

Is that the hotly awaited sequel to Pride & Prejudice & Zombies that you've had a sneak preview of? -- can't wait to see it myself  ;) ;) ;)
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Post by: Bloggard on April 06, 2020, 03:10:46 PM
isn't part of the sound thing that you're often (these days) listening to audio mixed for 5:1 (at least), whereas a lot of us (on pcs and even TVs) still persist with stereo?

I remember a couple of serials from a few yrs back where that was identified as a problem.
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: syrinx0 on April 07, 2020, 02:22:18 AM
Nothing too deep or even new but it looks to be entertaining.  The Pirates ride movie(s) worked out well for them...
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: shadowbeast on April 07, 2020, 04:12:07 AM
Is that the hotly awaited sequel to Pride & Prejudice & Zombies that you've had a sneak preview of? -- can't wait to see it myself  ;) ;) ;)

Last I heard, there was only a Sense and Sensibility and Sea Monsters. But then, that was just the books.

Anyway, has anyone ever heard of Disney's Society of Explorers and Adventurers? All over the parks, there are clues as to their existence, as documented by Offhand Disney:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq0ByeRNKc8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ8E3Jb28T8

You can find them as VSF or Gaslamp Fantasy inspiration at some attractions, and pulp at others (they've survived for some time). I wouldn't put it past this movie to be full of references to them; or even for one or more characters to be members.

Nothing too deep or even new but it looks to be entertaining.  The Pirates ride movie(s) worked out well for them...

Not a terribly reliable decision-making process; there was, of course, the Haunted Mansion movie...
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: syrinx0 on April 07, 2020, 07:27:01 PM
Not a terribly reliable decision-making process; there was, of course, the Haunted Mansion movie...

That didn't make a lot of money but my kids enjoyed it and I didn't mind sitting through it.  I have watched worse kids movies. 

Never did notice the Society theme when I went to the parks but that was years ago.
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: FifteensAway on April 19, 2020, 06:27:48 AM
I believe release has been delayed until 2021.  COVID19 strikes again.
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: FifteensAway on December 15, 2021, 02:13:47 AM
So, went to see the movie a while back and enjoyed the movie for what it was but didn't like the move from Africa to South America or the 'reliance' on a port over from Pirates of the Caribbean (you'll have to watch it, I won't spoil it).  I really feel if they'd kept the movie in Africa, it could have been a much better - and more fun and game inspiring - movie.  I hope the reason was to avoid offending people of African descent though I also suspect a less noble reason.  Well, at least there are now hippos in South America - if not on the Amazon.   
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on December 15, 2021, 09:17:13 AM
Mrs. GG and I enjoyed it. Yes, it was very much Pirates of the Caribbean mixed with African Queen but it was fun. The only thing we really did not like was the casting choice for Prince Joachim. Jesse Plemons is a decent actor but he just did not make for a compelling enough villain.
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: NickNascati on December 23, 2021, 08:06:31 PM
I watched it a couple weeks ago, and quite enjoyed it.  As someone suggested, it’s Indiana Jones takes the African Queen to find The Jewel of the Nile.  I do think the presence of the Nazis was a bit pointless, they weren’t really needed.  Emily Blunt was terrific as always, and Dwayne Johnson is growing on me as a campy, action hero.
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: Pattus Magnus on January 01, 2022, 07:18:45 PM
The Germans weren’t Nazis - it was set in 1916 and they were Imperial Germans at war with France, British Empire and Russia (USA entered the following year). Easy mistake to make when watching the movie, though, as the writers ported in common Nazi stereotypes in depicting the earlier period.

Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on January 02, 2022, 10:14:11 AM
The Germans weren’t Nazis - it was set in 1916 and they were Imperial Germans at war with France, British Empire and Russia (USA entered the following year). Easy mistake to make when watching the movie, though, as the writers ported in common Nazi stereotypes in depicting the earlier period.

Thanks for so eloquently articulating what I was thinking mate.
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: roadskare63 on January 20, 2022, 06:03:45 PM
Hi guys, a question for all you pulpheads....no disrespect.......Exactly what kind of submarine was in the movie?...I was thinking MAYBE a type UB-1, but if so, Disney really took some artistic license with it. Let me know if anyone has an idea please.
Thanks,
Carl
Title: Re: Disney's Jungle Cruise
Post by: FifteensAway on January 22, 2022, 03:50:34 AM
Pattus, I stand properly corrected and mildly embarrassed.  Still, other than letting loose the conquistadors and kidnapping the brother, you could take the Germans out of the movie and all you'd loose is the silly scene with the sillier submarine. 

While granted the movie is really a live action cartoon, I still cringed at the boat being able to back away from the edge of the waterfall.  I don't mind 'suspending disbelief' but that bit defies all credulity.  Unless the Roadrunner and Bugs Bunny make an appearance.  lol

Sounds like a sequel is in the works.  Maybe that movie will make it to Africa?  I'd prefer a full reset with an entirely different story line - more along the Indiana Jones franchise than the Pirates of the Caribbean mess (like the first one, the follow ons were quite a mess in my opinion - but made trainloads of money).