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Miniatures Adventure => The Conflicts that came in from the Cold => Topic started by: Paul @ Empress Miniatures on March 12, 2020, 02:23:10 PM
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I need a PBR lol lol lol lol
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Great looking collection!
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I am embarrassed to say that's not everything ::)
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OMG! That is an impressive collection of helos. Wow! All 1/48 kits I presume?
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I need a PBR lol lol lol lol
I wonder who could make that....
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OMG! That is an impressive collection of helos. Wow! All 1/48 kits I presume?
No the cheat option Corgi 1/48 scale diecast.
They all need to be worked on to make them USMC and look part of the same unit. Plus crews which we need to get sorted for Empress. I just made a lot of flight stands so wondered what they would look like thus far.
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UVS,
His initials wouldn't be RH would they?
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Dum da da dum dum!
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No the cheat option Corgi 1/48 scale diecast.
If you “need” some more, let me know...I suspect I have a dozen of so in my games room somewhere
:D
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Ok I'll bite. " I love the smell of napalm in the morning, smell's like victory." :D
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Time to start painting more NVA flak methinks! ... ;)
“Happiness is a cold LZ!”
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The Valkyries from Wagner as background music is a must!!!
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I can hear the music as I look at the picture :-*
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I need a PBR lol lol lol lol
Paul, you are not the only one looking for a PBR ;)
Speaking of which, I heard a certain company was making one.
Do know if that is true? :D
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Well I know one is just being moulded for release. ;)
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That's brilliant Paul. I have 'a few' of those myself and I'm wondering how you've done the flight stands?
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Sounds great.
You are Number One. :D
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That's brilliant Paul. I have 'a few' of those myself and I'm wondering how you've done the flight stands?
The stands are a base, mainly old CD's (the stuff you really never listen to anymore.) Glue some heavy stones and then use tile grout. This weights them down.
Perspex rod from Ebay.
Put a metal pin in the top. Gut a small plate to support the model at the back. Drill o hole in the underneath of the model. Try and get a close to the centre of gravity as you can then the jobs done.
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Stunning! :o “Charlie don’t surf”
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Makes me wish I had a source for a few of those Corgi models.
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Ebay type places are very good.
I picked my original batch up from that source very cheaply.
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Hi Paul
Yes that is a really cool lift of Huey's. I have a question, did USMC use the B variant or go straight to D from the Sikorsky UH-34D?
Also looking forward to the PBR
John B
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Hi Paul
Yes that is a really cool lift of Huey's. I have a question, did USMC use the B variant or go straight to D from the Sikorsky UH-34D?
Also looking forward to the PBR
John B
I will keep this simple. UH-34D to start then they seem to have used both types of Huey. The single window and double window longer Huey. I have pictures taken at the time of the single window early version being used in combat right through. I do have some double window later versions also in the pile but may save those for Air Cav when we do those later on.
There are also other choppers they were using. I have all the details in a few books but they are not with me at the moment so sorry for the lack of detail ;)
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Thanks for the info. Have you read Chickenhawk? I highly recommend it if you're interested in reading about huey and the pilots' experiences.
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Chickenhawk is a really interesting read!
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Impressive selection of choppers!
I’ve just sliced my finger cutting off the doors on a Hobby Boss UH-1. It’s getting kit-bashed with bits of the truly execrable Revell/Monogram UH-1 not quite a B, not quite a cC model. The end result will hopefully be a passable UH-1E gunship, I already have a UH-1E slick, slightly converted, Hobby Boss kit complete.
The Revell kit has appalling fit, tons of flash (the moulds are forty odd years old) and some very iffy accuracy. That said it’s an excellent source of spares and bits. I intend to get another HB Huey and by cutting off the tail, bolting on the Revell one and making a few cosmetic changes, build an RAAF UH-1B. Fortunately I knew about all the issues with the Revell kit before purchasing it as a spares donor.
The Marines used CH-34s as the basic transport chopper and a handful of CH-37s for heavy lift early on. From around 1966 they started to supplement these with UH-1E Hueys for recce, liasion and as gunships. Actually there use as gunships came to interfere with their primary, intended, use as recce and light utility, sparking complaints from the brass.
CH-46s replaced the UH-34s as lift ships and were supplemented by CH-53s as heavy lift (replacing the CH-37). From 1969 on the Marines also employed some ex-Army AH-1G gunships before getting their own dedicated twin engine AH-1J right at the tail end of the war.
The Marines didn’t use model D or H Hueys, only the E model, which is essentially an aluminium version of the short bodied C model (Bell 205). After the war they did get the twin engined N model but they didn’t see service in the war proper. They might have been there for Frequent Wind the evacuation of Saigon in 1975.
WIP Gunship and Hobby Boss slick with hoist.
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By the by, if you buy the Hobby Boss kit be sure to glue some flat washers or ball bearings/ lead shot under the cabin otherwise it will be a tail sitter.
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Looking good ;)
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Ooops!!!
Crash landing. Great marker for scenarios and general landing games. I am a great fan of games that start off as one thing then suddenly get the players management juices flowing as they have to think on their feet to sort out a new challenge that was never on the horizon. Vietnam games are perfect for this theory.
Next one is in a paddy field.
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Nice! I bought the Revell kit ages ago to do the very same.
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Very nice - you should have entered that into the build something contest. :D
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Nice !
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The stands are a base, mainly old CD's (the stuff you really never listen to anymore.) Glue some heavy stones and then use tile grout. This weights them down.
Perspex rod from Ebay.
Put a metal pin in the top. Gut a small plate to support the model at the back. Drill o hole in the underneath of the model. Try and get a close to the centre of gravity as you can then the jobs done.
I used Pieces of wood, perspex rod and magnets. Works really well.
This is our apocalypse now game from a few years ago, havent got any great pictures of it unfortunately because it was at the 'Derby' show with the horrendous lighting
Edit: I've taken the photos down, not trying to steal your thread
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I used Pieces of wood, perspex rod and magnets. Works really well.
This is our apocalypse now game from a few years ago, havent got any great pictures of it unfortunately because it was at the 'Derby' show with the horrendous lighting
Edit: I've taken the photos down, not trying to steal your thread
No its fine post them. This seems to have become the home of Vietnam helicopters so please post away. ;)
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Very nice crashed Huey!!
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I use a car antenna and strong magnets to fix the chopper on top. So you can have different flying altitudes.
(https://wargamesgazette.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/img_5071.jpg?w=373&h=500&zoom=2)
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Another crash dummy.
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Nice, really love these crashed hueys. Was planning on grabbing a HobbyBoss one at some point for my Nam stuff.
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That looks great. Really nice collection of scenery.
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Looking good!
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Nice addition
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...The Revell kit has appalling fit, tons of flash (the moulds are forty odd years old) and some very iffy accuracy. That said it’s an excellent source of spares and bits. I intend to get another HB Huey and by cutting off the tail, bolting on the Revell one and making a few cosmetic changes, build an RAAF UH-1B. Fortunately I knew about all the issues with the Revell kit before purchasing it as a spares donor.
What am I missing? 9th RAAF flew UH 1D as far as I know, with some converted to gunships, according to a mate of mine who flew with 9th Sqd in 1971? In which case you are looking at the much pricier (but much nicer!) Kitty Hawk model.
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You’re missing the fact that 9 Squadron deployed to Vietnam with UH-1Bs, eight of them initially. Later, in 1968, they replaced these with UH-1H models (mostly D model Hueys, re-engined and upgraded to the H model not factory built H models) and the numbers increased. There were a couple of UH-1Ds deployed earlier on as replacements for lost B models.
The Bushranger came into service in 1969 and during the Vietnam deployment there were only four kits.
So if you want a 9 Squadron Huey pre 1968, you want a B model.
There’s a good summary of all this and more detail than you probably ever want to know about the Bushranger version here:
https://www.radschool.org.au/Books/Bushranger2.pdf
Oh and no need to buy the Kitty Hawk kit, nice as it is. The Italeri version is quite serviceable, comes with RAAF decals and externally the D and the H are practically identical, the H being a D with a new donk. The Italeri version is also half the price of the Kitty Hawk model.
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Thanks for that. I'm now wondering why I bought a Corgi Patton... when I could have saved the money for an Aussie M113 :)
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Asking why we have spent good money on our toys is a road that leads to madness. Just enjoy the Corgi Patton. :)
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Asking why we have spent good money on our toys is a road that leads to madness.
Those are the wisest words I've heard about our hobby in ages! :D
@Paul, is that a wrecked Corgi? I heard you can find them incomplete from time to time on eBay. I've never been so lucky.
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You can’t have enough Hueys
:)
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Amen!
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can I please ask this of you who have them - is there room/access to place pilot figures in the Corgi die-casts models (for the models with open side doors)?
If not, I may go down the plastic kit option..
Many thanks
Simon.
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I have not tried as we are in the process of sculpting pilots so I can. However door gunners are easily fitted. Also being sculpted.
Looking at the Corgi it should/ may be possible to do by pushing it through the crew compartment although it may need some messing with the figures. Sorry not to give a complete answer but I am awaiting the experiment. ;)
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Hi Paul - thanks for the answer - it would be great if they can be made to fit - perhaps a 2 part figure, cut at the waist maybe a solution?
Glue in legs and then attach body?
I'll leave it to you and Paul to figure out.
All the best
Simon
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One way may be to cut the back of the seat off. Place the figure. re glue seat.
As soon as I am successful I will let you know ;) If I fail I may never tell anyone Muhahahahaha :P
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Nice to hear that the chopper crew is sculpted at the moment. got myself two loaches who both need a Pilot and a gunner and my slicks still wait for their gunners.
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That is a lovely group of choppers and I did notice a bit of variety in the collection but if you are going for the Apocalypse Now Ride of the Valkyries scene you need even more variety because there was a rather eclectic collection of choppers used in that sequence - not close to all were hueys. Though I'm betting that was more about budget and availability for the film maker than what the reality might have been in The Nam.
Served in '76 with sailor who was involved in the evacuation of Saigon on board the same ship we were on - quite a tale he told, and turned as white as the background on my screen as he told it. Chopper after chopper tried landing on the helicopter deck on the fantail (it was a missile frigate) and sometimes one landed right on top of another and all the crew could do was push both into the sea because another chopper was coming in to land - all of them running out of fuel, some ditching in the ocean. Plus they were on fire and fire is the mortal enemy of a ship, even a ship made out of metal. In the last year or two saw part of a documentary talking about this finally. For decades my only source of knowledge was the first hand account. Pretty horrific.
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There's extensive footage of Op Frequent Wind, the evacuation of Saigon and the flight of RVNAF aircraft out to the US carriers. Some pretty amazing scenes, one chopper setting down on the fantail of a destroyer, incredibly brave chaps jusmping from choppers prior to ditching etc. One of the more amazing incidents was a VNAF pilot flying his family out on an O-1 Bird Dog and landing on a carrier deck. Check out Youtube.