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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: armchairgeneral on March 13, 2020, 10:00:18 PM
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I am considering fielding an opponent for my hoplites. Apart from other hoplites and the Persians, just wondered who else there is to consider?
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Well, they eventually get outclassed by the pike armed phalanx. If you do early pikes, you can eventually do Alexander's army with mercenary hoplites....
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Thracians would be the first to come to mind, then Macedonians. There was a Gallic invasion of Greece sometime (3rd Century BC?), though I'm not sure they would have faced classical hoplites.
LoL, my spellchecker wants to replace "Hoplites" with "shoplifters," this amuses me no end for some reason, not quite as good as the time it tried to replace "Mahdists" with "Methodists," though. :)
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Oh, and going back to my Xenophon, the "Ten Thousand" had all sorts of running battles with various "uncivilized" sorts in Anatolia (Carduchians? Paphlagonians? I don't really remember). Not sure what figures you'd use for these types of guys, though. Wild hill barbarians is how the Greeks would have seen them.
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Carthage (Sicilian Greeks). Southern Italian Greeks vs. Rome, Samnites, Oscans. Galatians (The Greeks had not converted to thureophoroi as yet). Thrace. Bactrian Frontier. Gauls (Massilia was a Greek colony). Libyans (The Cyrenians were a Greek colony). Illyrians. Macedonians, Macedonian Early Successors.
For starters.
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Thanks for the replies chaps. Thrace might be an option 8)
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Meshwesh is a free online army list for Triumph!....
http://meshwesh.wgcwar.com/home
Even if you don't play Triumph!, you can go to the lists, type in hoplite, it will list the various hoplite armies, click on one and it gives allies and enemies.
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Meshwesh is a free online army list for Triumph!....
http://meshwesh.wgcwar.com/home
Even if you don't play Triumph!, you can go to the lists, type in hoplite, it will list the various hoplite armies, click on one and it gives allies and enemies.
Thank you. Indeed that is very handy :)
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Iberians, gauls, pontic peoples
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Meshwesh is a free online army list for Triumph!....
http://meshwesh.wgcwar.com/home
Even if you don't play Triumph!, you can go to the lists, type in hoplite, it will list the various hoplite armies, click on one and it gives allies and enemies.
That's super, nice one
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There were major Greek colonies in southern Italy, Marseille, and around the Black Sea: so Hoplites get to fight just about everybody in the known world.
Etruscans, Latins, Campanians, etc.; Skythians, Illyrians, Lydians, etc. Not in the historic record, but I'ld bet 10 drachmai that the Massiliots fought the Iberians.
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I know you pointedly excluded them, but just wanted to remark that a few Greek on Greek actions splitting my army in half have proved more fun than anticipated.
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I know you pointedly excluded them, but just wanted to remark that a few Greek on Greek actions splitting my army in half have proved more fun than anticipated.
Thanks FK. Yes I should have enough hoplites for that and will try some games to see how they go though both armies with be rather similar.
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Of course, the three biggest ones I can think of are Macedonians, Persians, and Carthaginians.
If you want some more info on the following look here:
Thracians- https://bloodandspectacles.blogspot.com/2020/02/men-of-bronze-thracian-army-list.html
Carthaginians- https://bloodandspectacles.blogspot.com/2019/12/men-of-bronze-greeks-vs-carthage.html
Pre-Reform Macedonains- https://bloodandspectacles.blogspot.com/2019/12/men-of-bronze-pre-reform-macedonia.html
Thessaly- https://bloodandspectacles.blogspot.com/2019/11/men-of-bronze-thessaly-army-list.html
Of course, there are also various "barbarians" and what have you.
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Google ancient Greece. You'll get all the opponents and a history lesson.
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Barker got it right when he said the Greeks divided the world into foreigners, whom they despised, and Greeks, whom they hated.
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Unless you were a Greek from the same city, social class, and political leanings.... then you were tolerated!
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If you pick up the perfect captain's Hoplomachia rules even greek vs greek is going to be a lot of fun and realistic feelingz. hoplite warfare not vanilla infantry vs vanilla infantry.
Don t be put off by the appearence, is really not that complicated , just badly edited! But the rules are well worth
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Good point! Hoplite vs. Hoplite is a lot of different styles of combat with the light infantry and cavalry along for the ride too!
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I am considering fielding an opponent for my hoplites. Apart from other hoplites and the Persians, just wondered who else there is to consider?
Has anyone mentioned skeletons yet? ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF_Fi7x93PY
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Well if you are talking mythical, I did think about a scantily clad Amazon force from Crocodile games or Rbjgc lol
http://store-rbjgc-com.3dcartstores.com/AMAZONS_c_47-2.html
https://www.crocodilegames.com/store/itemList.cfm?catID=51&sort=prodID
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Has anyone mentioned Romans?
There was a fair amount of overlap between Hopites and Legionaries, especially the pre-Maurian Reform Romans (those guys with the feathers sticking out of their helmets and the rectangular shields that were rounded on top and bottom).
Mythological monsters are the coolest for Hoplites, in my humble opinion... especially armies of skeletons.
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Mythological monsters are the coolest for Hoplites, in my humble opinion... especially armies of skeletons.
They certainly leave me cold.