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Miniatures Adventure => VSF Adventures => Topic started by: OSHIROmodels on July 28, 2009, 05:36:08 PM
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Gentlemen, I present to you a couple of photos of the monitor that I'm currently working on.
Seeing that this forum has got my old interest back for this kind of thing I decided to start something new. Keeping it simple in size and design but there will be lots of nice little details to draw the eye (he says, touching wood and keeping his fingers crossed... Obviously not whilst making the damn thing, that would just be silly... Well, you get the idea :? )
Anyway, card construction for the main part and I'll be using 25mm insulation foam for the hull. Main turret is a bit of tubing and a resin navel gun I had lying around somewhere. The boiler 'house' is a lump of chemiwood I also had lying around. The two circly things on top of the compartment will have some sort of quick firier and the intention is to have a chain ballustrade all the way round.
Haven't thought about the prop yet, that will be tonight's mission and the name I think will be 'Kashima' for no paticular reason other than it was the first small ship name I came across.
Photos
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4132.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4133.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4131.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4134.jpg)
The chaps are Redoubts Japanese marines from thier Boxer range.
C+C will be most welcome and thanks for looking. (I do intend to tidy my desk up before my wife comes home from work ;) )
cheers
James
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:-* Gorgeous!
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Very nice. As is everything on your website.
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Building these leviathans in 28mm seems to be catching! Good job and hope to see the finished pics soon. Will the hull remain flat or is there a sub -base to it? And how are you thinking of basing it for the gaming table?
You may need to buy you wife a new table after the project though. I speak from experience.
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Very nice, can't wait to see it painted up and in action :)
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Lovely :-* :-*
May I ask where the resin pieces came from, port holes etc
Really looking forward to the rest of the build.
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That looks very promising. You seem to have got a good compromise between reduced size to fit onto a tabletop and playability.
This thread definitely requires constant updates :)
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Thanks for the comments chaps :)
To answer the questions in order...
@ thejammedgatling - The hull will have a sub-base to it which will be about 35-40mm thick to allow for the appearence of gubbins/room to move around etc. I'm also thinking of some sort of landing skid because they must land at some point yes (keeping his fingers crossed ;) )
The base will be removable (perspex rod attached to scenic base) just in case if it does land... Might also do different scenic bases to allow for different war zones... Maybe...
The table is my workbench in the spare room but my wife does like me to keep it tidy lol
@ gamer mac - The resin pieces I did myself quite a while ago but unfortunately the moulds are going, but, if I'm persuaded, I might do limited runs of hatchs, stowage boxes, portholes etc ;)
And here are some more piccies...
Close up of the railings
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4135.jpg)
Slightly different close up of the railings
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4137.jpg)
Rear six pounder (might change)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4139.jpg)
Stowage box
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4140.jpg)
Side view of maxim
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4141.jpg)
Top view of maxim
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4142.jpg)
Not a very good top view
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4144.jpg)
Apologies for some of the bad lighting, I blame the watery English sun lol
Once again, thanks for all the comments and hopefully it shoudln't be too long before the damn thing has a coat of paint :D
cheers
James
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Maxims are great :-*
Some very nice detail appearing.
Another question what are all the clear plactic circles you are using? Buttons?
They look very useful for scratch building.
I will be stealing some ideas from you when I get back to my Aeronef.
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That all looks great so far!
I'd swap the rear six-pounder for another Maxim, or something more modern - it looks kind of old fashioned compared to the rest of the 'nef.
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That all looks great so far!
I'd swap the rear six-pounder for another Maxim, or something more modern - it looks kind of old fashioned compared to the rest of the 'nef.
I agree. Nice work none the less! 8)
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Hello chaps :)
@ gamer mac - The clear discs are laser cut perspex off cuts that I've accumalated over the years (I work for an architectural modelmakers). Your welcome to any ideas, it's all for the greater good anyway :D
How about, instead of a another maxim, a gatling gun, a big one 'cos I really like making them :D
I've got a feeling that the rivets on the boiler room might be a tad too big, what do you chaps think.
I think I've found the perfect prop for the rear, I'll take a piccy tonight. It's from an educational model kit.
cheers
James
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Hello chaps :)
@ gamer mac - The clear discs are laser cut perspex off cuts that I've accumalated over the years (I work for an architectural modelmakers). Your welcome to any ideas, it's all for the greater good anyway :D
How about, instead of a another maxim, a gatling gun, a big one 'cos I really like making them :D
I've got a feeling that the rivets on the boiler room might be a tad too big, what do you chaps think.
I think I've found the perfect prop for the rear, I'll take a piccy tonight. It's from an educational model kit.
cheers
James
A big Gatling would be good - maybe something like a VSF version of the A10 Warthog's 30mm gatling? Then again, the recoil might be self-destructive, so perhaps not quite that big lol
Looking closely, the rivets may be too big, but I never realised initially so they probably aren't too noticeable :)
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I think they probably will be when it's painted :(
I'll leave them on the main body but swap them for smaller ones on the boiler house.
cheers
James
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Nice work - I'm looking forward to seeing the finished item. Nice to see someone else is collecting Japanese ;)
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Nice to see someone else is collecting Japanese ;)
Amongst other things ;) (but mainly Japanese :D )
Rear gatling gun is done and it does look better, fits in with the hole feel of things. There's also a shot of the main/only prop and when I get the hull done tomorrow we'll be cooking with gas (well, steam at any rate ;) )
Gatling gun
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4152.jpg)
Main prop
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4153.jpg)
There will be side mounted aerofoil thingys to help stear and very probably a bowspirit of some kind and a rear flag pole (I quite fancy doing a bit of simple rigging)
Once again, cheers for all the positive comments
cheers
James
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Great start. That ship is really looking good. Good luck finishing it, and keep us apprised of your efforts. Thanks for sharing.
Regards,
Hitman
8)
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@ gamer mac - The clear discs are laser cut perspex off cuts that I've accumalated over the years (I work for an architectural modelmakers). Your welcome to any ideas, it's all for the greater good anyway :D
Dream job for a scratch builder.
I am extremely jealous of all the bits and pieces you have for building things.
The Gatling gun fits very well and is very well built. :-*
My only wee niggle with it is that it looks front heavy. May just be the angle of the photo. But I think the body could do with moving back a bit.
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James, those scratch-built Maxims and Gatlings are miniature works of art :-*
I take it most of the parts are plastic card and rod that you get from railway model shops etc and the rest are perspex leftovers from your job? I used to be very keen on plastic modelling in my youth, so I'm tempted to get the craft knife and plastic card out again - even with the risk to my fingers ;)
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Being a modelmaker certainly does have it's advantages :D The trouble is, I've got so many things I want to do there's not enough time in the world to do them all lol
Most of the stock styrene I use are left overs from work (I go bin raiding fairly often) and I think you're right about the gatling, I'll see about moving it tonight.
Have hull, will travel...
Hull fron the front
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4154.jpg)
From the rear
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4155.jpg)
Three-quarter from underneath
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4156.jpg)
I should have the construction finished this weekend including a base (what sort of height do people generally mount their ships at?)
Left to do...
Base
Stearing foils
Railings (have some small chain on order)
A couple more stowage details
Hull trim
Landing skids/feet
Bowspirit and flagpole
Rigging
Knobs on the wheel
Flag (Nihon maru)
Possibly a few panel details
For the paint scheme I'm using the back of a 'Mikasa' kit box as reference. Dark grey hull and funnels (with white bands), medium/light grey for superstructure and a tan colour for the decking. I'll probably put a white stripe somewhere around the hull as a bit of extra detail.
cheers
James
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Personally I wouldn't go higher than a foot off of the table.
I think if you add some panels like you said, especially on the undersides, that will help a lot. How about some sort of bottom hatch, maybe double doors for loadins/unloading cargo. Could also be usefull for aerial assaults.
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I think if you add some panels like you said, especially on the undersides, that will help a lot. How about some sort of bottom hatch, maybe double doors for loadins/unloading cargo. Could also be usefull for aerial assaults.
You mean like some sort of bomb bay doors?
I've put a few more bits on tonight but it's late so I'm going to bed :`
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4157.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4158.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4159.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4160.jpg)
I've moved the gatling housing back a bit and it does help :)
cheers
James
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Seriously impressive stuff. ;D
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Seriously impressive stuff. ;D
Totally agree.
She's looking splendid!
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Do you paint the Japanese crews yourself?
They are :-* 8) :-*
If so you’re booth a very talented modeller and painter… I’m jealous now! lol
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Once again chaps, many thanks for the ind remarks.
I did some work on the aerofoils today and have almost got them finished, one thing remains is to decide wether I want them removable for easy transportation, if so then there is going to have another strut between the bottom and the hull. The railing for the top deck is done but silly me, I forgot to take a picture ::)
SIde view
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4231.jpg)
Three quarter view
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4232.jpg)
And a slight close up of the Captain, I'll post some more of the crew tomorrow
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4229.jpg)
I have some brass rod on order for the railings around the main deck but it won't be with me for another few days, so completion is slightly postponed :(
I've been thinking on other 'nefs' to do and one that came to mind was some sort of carrier. Not carrying planes but tiny one or two man 'nefs' that are attached to the side of the vessel with dereks, say, four per side, this would leave room on the deck for guns, flying bridges and all that ironclad goodness :D I might sketch something up tonight and post it tomorrow. It'll be a big bugger though :D ;)
I think that an order to Pulp Figures might be in order soon :D
One more question, I have it in mind to make some opposition, now what would people's suggestions be? Russians are a possiblilty because I really like the tumblehome of some of their ironclads (and with tensions between Japan and Russia in this sort of era it makes sense). Pirates might be a good choice aswell, lots of smaller craft and some of the Pulp Figures minatures are cracking :D
cheers
James
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i think either Russians or Chinese aerials pirates would be cool.
I hadn't thought about bomb bay doors. I was thinking maybe the hatch would open and guys would drop down onto their target.
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I would be very interested in how you planned to crew the proposed mini-nefs. I have two projects on hold right now based on toys from Dennys and Burger king. The burger king toys are little dirigibles that have a kaleidoscope inside. They are just the right size to suspend a cage underneath for a one man observer or attack balloon in 25mm/28mm. I was just wondering if there were any minis out there that would be particularly good as pilots. Fantastic project by the way!
LB
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Hey Jimbibbly, just joining in the chorus of praise with a belated entry.
Well done that man! :)
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i think either Russians or Chinese aerials pirates would be cool.
I hadn't thought about bomb bay doors. I was thinking maybe the hatch would open and guys would drop down onto their target.
Chinese might be quite good, again, historical antagonists :)
I think with it being a monitor it wouldn't really have a large troop capacity so probably for this one just normal entry and exit from the deck (troop carriers later ;) )
I would be very interested in how you planned to crew the proposed mini-nefs. I have two projects on hold right now based on toys from Dennys and Burger king. The burger king toys are little dirigibles that have a kaleidoscope inside. They are just the right size to suspend a cage underneath for a one man observer or attack balloon in 25mm/28mm. I was just wondering if there were any minis out there that would be particularly good as pilots. Fantastic project by the way!
LB
Do you have any pictures, I've had a quick look on both the BK and Denny's sites but nothing's there. I was thinking some of the Copplestone Chinese/Russian machine gun crew with sculpted goggles and possibly flying helmets. I've had a browse around and there are plenty of standing/action pose flying figures but not a lot sitting.
I'll be posting some more stuff at some point this afternoon.
cheers
James
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Great minds think alike.
I have been thinking along the same lines
I am just getting into VSF, not got very far yet.
I have started a British VSF army
I am building carrier type Aeronef which I hope to finish one day.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=9842.msg113012#msg113012 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=9842.msg113012#msg113012)
It is going to carry my BRAS.
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=11075.msg126981#msg126981 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=11075.msg126981#msg126981)
And maybe my MAMMARIES
http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=11904.msg136657#msg136657 (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=11904.msg136657#msg136657)
I have been buying Perry British naval troops to man the Aeronef.
I have also been buying some other Perry Sudan stuff for the ground forces.
I don’t have an opponent so I was thinking about creating an enemy army myself. I was looking at Prussian but a lot of people have already done that so I was thinking about doing something different
So I have also been thinking about a VSF Chinese force, after reading a League of Extraordinary Gentleman graphic novel where the Chinese were the enemy.
Like you I have been thinking about using Pulp Figures for the troops, with a Dr Fu Man Chu figure as the leader.
http://www.pulpfigures.com/catcode.php?range=Yangzee%20Gangs&code=PYG&number=4&custID=2172052101141249286820 (http://www.pulpfigures.com/catcode.php?range=Yangzee%20Gangs&code=PYG&number=4&custID=2172052101141249286820)
For more formal imperial troops I have been looking at foundry musket men which I think would really suit the time period.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/1912_03_08_09_10_21_08_2.bmp)
But I really like the Copplestone back and beyond Chinese so I may go with them.
A bit more modern and may need some converting to suit the image I have.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/1912_03_08_09_10_21_07_1.bmp)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/1912_03_08_09_10_21_07_0.bmp)
I have also been collecting some ideas for Chinese Aeronef.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/1912_03_08_09_10_21_09_4.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/1912_03_08_09_10_22_43_0.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/1912_03_08_09_10_22_43_1.jpg)
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/1912_03_08_09_10_22_43_2.jpg)
Another Idea I have are Do or Die Kite men and have been looking at Shiltrum miniatures figures but I seen them in the flesh at the weekend and did not like them, so I am intending to make my own converted from more pulp figures.
Some other ideas were things like a rocket battery of some kind and a large steam tank/ Ironclad based on this design.
(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/3/1912_03_08_09_10_21_08_3.jpg)
Really like you project to date and I hope some of the images are useful to you for future ideas.
I will be looking forward to you future posts
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Great ideas Gamer Mac. ;)
I love the idea of Chinese kite flyers as per LOEG. Look forward to seeing what you create.
As for oponents, we need to figure out som esort of quick transport for you from Scotland to London :?
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Malamute
I don't know about quick( lol) but I fix trains for a living so I get free train travel. So getting down there is no problem just escaping from the wife and kids is :'(
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Malamute
I don't know about quick( lol) but I fix trains for a living so I get free train travel. So getting down there is no problem just escaping from the wife and kids is :'(
You might have to work extra hard at home to score some extra brownie points ;)
We shall discuss this predicament at BLAM ;)
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Ooo ooo ooo, VSF gamers in Old London Town? :D :D
Some great ideas there gamer mac, I never though of doing wooden junks for the Chinese :)
I like your VSF stuff (especially the ballons :-* )
I've got Copplestone in mind for my Chinese aswell, great little figs.
Didn't get anything done yesterday and I'm out tonight, but rest assured that there will be more on Tuesday :D
cheers
James
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jimbibbly
Where are you based?
PS - I have edited one of the links in my post above. I had pasted the wrong one.
I am trying to work out how my Clank would fit into the Aeronef.
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That steam walker is great :-* the hatch opens aswell :D I've got some of the MAK plastic kits somewhere *thinks as to where*
I'm in the Kingston area and occasionally go to the London gamers in Richmond
cheers
James
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I'm in the Kingston area and occasionally go to the London gamers in Richmond
cheers
James
Hmmm, it seems we are neighbours. PM sent. ;)
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I have a lot of Boxer Rebellion Chinese. I am playing with the idea of Chinese on Mars too. Or maybe Russians. Have some Russian colonial infantry & sailors too.
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I have a lot of Boxer Rebellion Chinese. I am playing with the idea of Chinese on Mars too. Or maybe Russians. Have some Russian colonial infantry & sailors too.
Those wiley orientals on Mars, whatever next?..... Russians on Mars.....What the duce!!!
Nice idea, makes a change from the usual Brits, Prussians and Frenchies :)
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Those wiley orientals on Mars, whatever next?.....
Surely Chinese rocket technology is well advanced... :D
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I think all nations should be represented...
...more targets :D
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Surely Chinese rocket technology is well advanced... :D
The one problem they have is that it goes bang at the end lol
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The one problem they have is that it goes bang at the end lol
lol lol lol
Small update, the hull has had a coat of primer and it's great that it's all coming together :)
It's starting to rain (again :-[ ) so I can't get the other pieces done tonight but I'm going to start painting the main part ;D
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4237.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4236.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4235.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4234.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4233.jpg)
I'm going to either start on a smaller patrol 'nef' or some sort of chinese pirate ship (I've got the Osprey oriental fighting ship books)
cheers
James
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(http://brassgoggles.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/airship-by-james-ng.jpg)
How about this one for inspiration? It's a piece I have earmarked.
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(http://brassgoggles.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/airship-by-james-ng.jpg)
How about this one for inspiration? It's a piece I have earmarked.
I have that pic in an inspiration folder too. It would only need to be about five feet long (and tall) o_o
Very nice work James. I have been following the thread but was awaiting the painted beast before commenting - no need as it has already hit awesome on the scale.
Can I have Pringle tubes FULL of strip too? :o
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Had to pop back to the start to check. Is the decking done with individual strips of balsa?
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That Chinese 'flunk' (flying junk lol ) is amazing, scaling it down a bit I think we have a winner for the pirate warlord's conveyance :D (I think some of the smoke stacks are probably coming from the kitchens lol )
@Svenn - Thanks for the compliment :) The pringles tub has been on the go for about 6 years now, some of the strip in there is going rather a bad shade of yellow it's that old (gets quite brittle aswell)
@Dewbakuk - Yup, 1mm thick and 5mm wide, textured with a bit of 80grit sandpaper and then cut into 120mm lengths and alternated.
Give me another hour or so and I'll have some paint on it :D
cheers
James
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Only a base coat tonight as I need an early(ish) bed
The main areas have had a base coat and there will be plenty of shading/weathering to go on yet (working from home tomorrow so I can spend a bit more time on it :D )
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/DSCF4238.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/DSCF4239.jpg)
Oh bugger, that last one's a bit bright, ah well, never mind. Night night all :)
cheers
James
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Pretty much done now, I'm still waiting for the brass rod to do the railings around the main deck (bloody postal service ::) )
Still have the ensigns, main deck railings, name plates and ships wheel to do (and the base to finish painting) and that's about it. I might put a few paint chips on prominant places but we'll see.
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4245.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4246.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4247.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4248.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4249.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4250.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4251.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4253.jpg)
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk138/jimbibbly/VSF/DSCF4252.jpg)
Thanks for looking :)
cheers
James
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Hey James,
First have to say been enjoying this build ALOT. So much so when the S.E.D. arrives just follow the instructions.
With that said, in the beginning of the construction i had always wondered about the front upper MG's i think they are on the almost circular mounts.
I see the supports under them, but i was always thinking you were going to wall off under them for two more hard mounts for weapons. That make sense?
If so was that a thought by chance or were you always going this route? :-)
Grimm?
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:-* :-* :-*
A lovely paint job to finish off a brilliant build.
I really like the colour of the wooden deck can you lets us know what paints you used ???
Thanks for all the photos and inspiration. :D
I will have to go and finish mine now. :'(
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I am rapidly running out of things to say how wonderful this looks. It has to be one of the best I have seen.
I missed the photos yesterday whilst I was busy building my own stuff, so have only just seen the paintig pics. WOW ;D
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Thanks again for the kind words chaps, it really makes me want to construct more... MORE I TELLS YA!!!
@ Grimmnar - It was intentional to have them as 'floating' decks but now you mention the hardpoint idea I could use that on a bigger one :D
@ gamer Mac - The decking was given a base coat of Foundry Palamino light, washed with my own ink (a mix of GW's Devlan mud, Thraka green [god, they give them stupid names] and some Winsor and Newton peat brown with a little bit of Evian thrown in) then drybrushed with Palamino mid shade and final highlight with Palamino light.
I've just printed out a Nihon maru to go on the back :D
cheers
James
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Fantastic stuff! It really makes me want to continue on my VSF stuff. Unfortunately it's all in storage so my toy room can look like a bedroom again to sell the house :(
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:-*
Wow, really fun watching this project go from start to finish!
Very, very nice!
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Lovely ship and very professional scratchbuilding techniques!
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this looks great, very inspiring stuff :)
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really, really good..it has come together splendidly and looks both very practical to game with and lots of eye candy at the same time...a hard thing to balance.
Hmm... I'm from Kingston...
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Hmm... I'm from Kingston...
Really, whereabouts, and the more important question, do you have a table?
cheers
James
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Beautiful work here. We just have to make sure that photos of this one and the BRA Carrier get into the sticky Aeronef thread. They are far too valuable not to be there. I almost want to go back and build another Norwegian 'Nef, but I :
A: don't have room right now, what with three pirate ships being converted for 28mm use from their Megablocks stage.
B: don't have any good reasons to do so
C: Need to finish my Pygmy Army first
and D: My wife will kick my @$$ if I don't finish some of these other projects first.
Beautiful work though - almost makes me wish I lived a little closer. Like, oh, in England.
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I have to say that Japanese monitor is one of the best looking scratchbuilt ship models for wargaming that I've ever seen.
For Chinese ships, I'd suggest modelling one of them on the Chinese battleship Ting Yuen which fought in the 1895 Sino-Japanese war. Along with her sister ship Chen Yuen, it had a big twin turret on each side of the ship for the heavy guns not directly opposite the other, and smaller turrets in the bow and stern for lighter guns. Just in case this long link doesn't work, I found some incredible color images of the Ting Yuen modern 1:1 scale replica built as a floating museum, via a Google image search that included the terms 1895 China Ting Yuen:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hksw.org/images/Ting%2520Yuen/017_17A.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.hksw.org/Ting%2520Yuen.htm&usg=__JIrs4n9aLA7Uy8FjNCXfNcbVl80=&h=1000&w=1500&sz=354&hl=en&start=14&tbnid=8rAQ9tZktGKBQM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3D1895%2BChina%2BChen%2BYuen%2Bbattleship%2BOR%2Bcruiser%2BOR%2BChing%2BOR%2BYuan%2BOR%2BChao%2BOR%2BYung%2BOR%2BChi%2BOR%2BYuan%2B%2522Ting%2BYuen%2522%26as_st%3Dy%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
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Thanks again for the comments chaps :)
I am building a chinese piratical flyee thingy at the moment and it's quite boxey, but having something that looks like an 'official' Chinese naval destroyer might be a good idea, then the pirates can be sanctioned by their govenment (similar to what was happening with the boxer rebellion anyway). Muwahahahahaha.
But one thing at a time ;) ;)
cheers
James
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There is just a wealth of stuff on here that just keeps me inspired and just a little greenwith envy
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Wow! :-*
Can't really think of anything else......... Wow!
PM
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Now that is tidy!
Though I'd want to see it in WWWII with Japanese kamikazi handglider teams launching from it!
:o