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Miniatures Adventure => Age of the Big Battalions => Topic started by: Ninefingers on May 05, 2020, 04:12:24 PM
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I'm looking for some Native American buildings - woodland indians for FIW and AWI. I can only find the Grand Manner ones online, does anyone know about any others please?
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Think Acheson Creations have some.
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I recently saw some unpainted Hudson & Allen AmIndian dwellings on the Noble Knight Games resale site. I recall one longhouse and one set of the three smaller dwellings.
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Frank Lloyd Wright?
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"Frank Lloyd Wright?" Now, that's just silly! I love it. lol
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He was born in the US, and his designs show American architecture at its best....
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Vatican Enterprises has some wigwams and long houses fairly reasonable priced:
http://www.wargamescenics.com/
I think these may be the Hudson and Allen ones mentioned above.
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It sounds like you want cast resin pieces. You don't specify scale. Acheson Creations makes a variety of excellent longhouses, wigwams and stockade pieces in 15mm, 25mm and 28mm scales.
https://achesoncreations.com/index.php/products/american-frontier
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Craig Acheson also has a sale on until the end of May. I have a ton of his stuff. It paints up really easily and looks great on the table top!!
Regards,
Hitman
8) 8)
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Yes, Acherson are very good in all respects. Good product, good price and reliable and timely delivery. I bought four longhouses. I might get a frontier fort from him while the sale is on too.
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Acheson are very nice but based in the US.
Warlord do nice long houses.
https://store.warlordgames.com/products/large-woodland-indian-longhouse?_pos=3079&_sid=6034a450d&_ss=r
https://store.warlordgames.com/products/small-woodland-indian-longhouse?_pos=3073&_sid=6034a450d&_ss=r
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I'm based in the USA and I just bought from a couple of UK firms - and, yes, I paid the now 'normal' premium on freight. Should I boycott all UK companies because I have to pay freight? The new normal is 30-40% of the total order cost generally.
Once upon a time, if you wanted something form far away the freight charge would be a multiple of the items cost, sometimes several multiples. I really don't get the problem. You want the product, you pay the price - and that includes shipping.
Maybe I'll organize all of North America to stop buying from off the continent, at least hobby wise.
Rant over. Off to Acheson.
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I use the Warlord longhouses designed by Herb Gundt and they are very good.
I also made one myself a round one using blue/pink foam covered with crepe paper and green stuff for branches/rope.
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Thanks for your help everyone - I was after 28mm.
I didn't know those Warlord ones existed, so I will look into those.
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I'm based in the USA and I just bought from a couple of UK firms - and, yes, I paid the now 'normal' premium on freight. Should I boycott all UK companies because I have to pay freight? The new normal is 30-40% of the total order cost generally.
Once upon a time, if you wanted something form far away the freight charge would be a multiple of the items cost, sometimes several multiples. I really don't get the problem. You want the product, you pay the price - and that includes shipping.
Maybe I'll organize all of North America to stop buying from off the continent, at least hobby wise.
Rant over. Off to Acheson.
Apologies, Fifteensaway, I should have explained myself better. From a recent order to Acheson for which I paid the higher shipping cost (which I was prepared to accept) I also got hit for customs charges on top which from memory equated to a further 25% of the order value. I don’t know if this peculiar to the UK but it is to be born in mind when ordering from overseas. It seems a quite random charge which you don’t know what it will be until the item arrives.
As you say if you want the product you pay the price. I just wanted to point out there were equivalent products available without having to pay the extra freight cost.
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Yeah, a bit of a pet peeve for me. And, sadly, ordering from the US might get worse if our Toddler-in-Chief gets his way and has the US Postal service increase package shipment costs by a multiple. If that happens, a lot of small businesses will "turn turtle" and be part of the flotsam and jetsam of our new world. And that means many of our little USA hobby businesses will be a part of history. Or the costs go up even more which might equate to the same effect.
Glad to hear you 'took the hit' and bought out of the USA. I spread my purchases around the world, not only US but Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Italy, and UK - at the least. Though not much more to buy these days.
Sadly, Acheson had but one 15 mm option that wasn't all that great. Thankfully, Bluemoon Manufacturing has more - and better - options for my FIW villages. I think I will have to scratch build the 'castle' walls if I decide to go that way. Of course, by the time of the AWI, a lot of 'native' homes were similar to European immigrant homes - at least among the Mohawk.
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Hey FifteensAway, did you ever look at the Imex 1/72 plastic sets? The wigwams in the Eastern Friendly Indians box and the tipis in the Lewis and Clark set are too small to be 1/72 scale, but fair for 15mm. Some of the other camp doo-dads in the sets might be useful for a 15mm Indian village. Checkitout:
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=606
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=405
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zippy, I had not seen either of those sets so thanks for pointing them out. Not sure I can justify buying the whole sets just for the extras unless I find them for cheap somewhere. At least I can now keep my eyes peeled just in case. Again, thanks.
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Fifteens,
Yes, I am sure that you are going to have to scratch build the "castle" walls. If you have not had a chance yet, I suggest that you search for (or better yet visit) pictures of the Iroquois villages dioramas at the New York State Museum. They have done the palisade walls correctly based on archeology of the sites.
Lon
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Conquest Miniatures use to have the woodland indians long houses etc.
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Militia Pete, Conquest sold their product line to Warlord. I think the Warlord longhouses are former Conquest product.
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Out of Interest, the warlord longhouse is that suitable for plains Indians as I know in winter months they would live in log cabins I believe but that's as far as my knowledge goes?
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You are correct Zippy. The two longhouses are old Conquest. To bad they don't carry the log cabin. I had a couple of those and they were awesome.
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Donkeymilkman, never heard of native american log homes - and certainly not on the plains. I know of sod houses and other wigwam style homes (bark overlaid on pole frame) but not log homes - unless used to create something in the shape of the traditional teepee. I would be very curious of your reference sources for log homes for the Plains tribes? Most of them relied on the teepee, through the year from what I know. I'm going to bounce over and do some Google 'research' just to satisfy my curiosity. I do recall one semi-buried structure in a museum that might have used some very crudely worked logs but I would not consider that a log cabin.
Found this: http://www.native-languages.org/houses.htm (http://www.native-languages.org/houses.htm)
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Donkeymilkman, never heard of native american log homes - and certainly not on the plains.
My mistake not log homes as such, I was remembering what seemed to be a bit of a brief step note in one of my childs gcse history revision guides on the American West by Pearson. For some reason it always stuck with me never quite knowing myself what they were going on about anyway here's the quote,
"In winter, the bands moved to sheltered valleys where they lived in wooden lodges, insulated with thick layers of soil."
Thank you for the link, I might have a go at scratch building some of those buildings. They look rather fun! I assume they were going on about Earthen houses then? I have to admit my knowledge of American is bill and void but I have always found the Plains Wars interesting.
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You are probably thinking of this type of lodge Donkeymilkman:
(http://people.ucls.uchicago.edu/~snekros/2008-9%20webquests/Structures3/Photos/Earth-lodge-knife-river.jpg)
From here: link. (http://people.ucls.uchicago.edu/~snekros/2008-9%20webquests/Structures3/index.html)
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Thank you for the link Codsticker I might have to have a go at making one of these now, looks like it could be a fun little project.