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Title: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 17, 2020, 09:40:43 PM
For a while I have been thinking about branching out into the Italian Wars and I've finally started to put brush to miniatures.  I expect this to be a slow burn project not least of which the time it takes to paint each figure (and I haven't started on the Landsknechts yet). 

Here is the first unit typical of the Spanish forces in the early part of the Italian wars, a unit of Genitor light cavalry.  Figures by TAG, flag by Pete's Flags and based as skirmishing light cavalry.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-170520202933.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-170520203130.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-170520203332.jpeg)

Title: Re: Italalian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Antonio J Carrasco on May 17, 2020, 10:12:13 PM
Very nice! Like it a lot.

Title: Re: Italalian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Atheling on May 17, 2020, 11:02:21 PM
Ooooh! Me like a lot  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Italalian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Captain Blood on May 17, 2020, 11:10:59 PM
 Very colourful, Gary. They look great.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Romark on May 18, 2020, 08:38:58 AM
A fine start Gary  :)
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Post by: Bloggard on May 18, 2020, 08:57:37 AM
great looking unit.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: schoey on May 18, 2020, 08:58:19 AM
These are really nice, look forward to seeing more.
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Post by: HappyChappy439 on May 18, 2020, 09:01:54 AM
Great start!
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Post by: jambo1 on May 18, 2020, 09:08:41 AM
Nice start, very impressive!! :)
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Katsuhiko JiNNai on May 18, 2020, 11:26:30 AM
Well done, when the army will be complete it will be really colourful :)
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: pete on May 18, 2020, 11:41:45 AM
nicely done.  :-*

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Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 20, 2020, 02:19:19 PM
Thanks very much for all the positive feedback. 

Next up are my Spanish Gendarmes. Foundry Miniatures and Pete's Flags banner.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-200520131243.jpeg)

And some close-ups.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-200520131802.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-200520131106.jpeg)



Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Romark on May 20, 2020, 02:48:24 PM
Imposing looking unit Gary  :-*
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Yarkshire Gamer on May 20, 2020, 02:50:06 PM
Lovely stuff,  when all this is over we need a giant meet up and get all the lovely Italian Wars figures on a big table  :)

Regards Ken
The Yarkshire Gamer
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 20, 2020, 03:26:25 PM
Imposing looking unit Gary  :-*

Thanks Keith.

Lovely stuff,  when all this is over we need a giant meet up and get all the lovely Italian Wars figures on a big table  :)

Regards Ken
The Yarkshire Gamer

Ken - That would be great but I'll have to go some to match your output.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Atheling on May 21, 2020, 02:43:37 PM
More fab work Hu  :-* :-* :-*

Those Foundry Gendarme's will never go out of fashion  8)

I'm (soon/soon-ish) going to start working on a 1250 pt army for Swordpoint which will of course be usable with Hail Caesar, WAB and a my favourite for the period, based on just reading the rules, Furioso.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Eoin OCnaimhsi on May 21, 2020, 04:53:17 PM
Amazing.

Especially the Genitors. Lovely miniatures, painting is fantastic.

Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: GamesPoet on May 21, 2020, 05:08:19 PM
Looking very good!
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 21, 2020, 06:48:27 PM
More fab work Hu  :-* :-* :-*

Those Foundry Gendarme's will never go out of fashion  8)


True but I just wish they produced more variety in their armoured horses or sold the riders separately.


I'm (soon/soon-ish) going to start working on a 1250 pt army for Swordpoint which will of course be usable with Hail Caesar, WAB and a my favourite for the period, based on just reading the rules, Furioso.

Haven't tried Furioso, mine are based for Pike and Shotte, which seem to work well with a few minor tweaks to get the period feel.

Amazing.

Especially the Genitors. Lovely miniatures, painting is fantastic.



Looking very good!

Thanks very much for the kind comments.

Next up are some Spanish Arquebus. Foundry from their Conquistador range.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-210520174438.jpeg)

Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Atheling on May 21, 2020, 06:52:48 PM
Next up are some Spanish Arquebus. Foundry from their Conquistador range.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-210520174438.jpeg)

They look superb  :-*

Do you think the Foundry and TAG Arquebusiers will mix well? If so great as that's more possible variation :)
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: fred on May 21, 2020, 08:24:31 PM
Lovely work!
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 21, 2020, 08:32:36 PM
They look superb  :-*

Do you think the Foundry and TAG Arquebusiers will mix well? If so great as that's more possible variation :)

Thanks. The Foundry figures in this range are a litle bit chunkier so I wouldn't mix them in the same units.  I think the Eureka figures mix better with TAG. I'll be painting them up in due course and will post a comparison picture.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Captain Blood on May 21, 2020, 09:33:18 PM
They look very good. You have hit a productive vein, Gary!
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 21, 2020, 09:36:02 PM
They look very good. You have hit a productive vein, Gary!

Thanks.  Now to keep the vein open, so to speak.  ;)
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Metternich on May 28, 2020, 09:38:03 PM
Lovely work indeed.  You have a fine army shaping up.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 31, 2020, 05:47:58 PM
Some more Spanish sword and buckler men.  Foundry Conquistador range.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-310520163952.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-310520164111.jpeg)

And some command stands for the Spanish Swordsmen. Again Foundry Conquistador range with Pete's Flags.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-310520164635.jpeg)

Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Atheling on May 31, 2020, 06:02:45 PM
Smashing stuff Ru  :-* :-* :-*
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Post by: Ray Rivers on May 31, 2020, 06:23:06 PM
Coming out really good!

Well done!  :-*
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Captain Blood on May 31, 2020, 08:21:52 PM
Looking good Gary.
Copplestone sculpts - the last ones he ever did for Foundry IIRC - you can’t beat them.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: AdamPHayes on June 01, 2020, 12:05:56 PM
Great looking units! (Must not get distracted!)
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on June 02, 2020, 12:23:19 PM
Smashing stuff Ru  :-* :-* :-*

Coming out really good!

Well done!  :-*

Looking good Gary.
Copplestone sculpts - the last ones he ever did for Foundry IIRC - you can’t beat them.


Thanks for the kind comments.

Great looking units! (Must not get distracted!)

Distracted...by shiny things... a new period....why not.  That's how I got started.  :D :D
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Atheling on June 02, 2020, 12:24:40 PM
Thanks for the kind comments.

Distracted...by shiny things... a new period....why not.  That's how I got started.  :D :D

A very common ailment!  :D

Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Yuber Okami on June 02, 2020, 02:07:29 PM
Aren't the flags upside down???

BTW, do TAG and Foundry mix up well? I've never seen a comparison pic...

In other order of things: great painting! Hope you get some "french" rivals in the area (or enough patience to build your own french army)
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Romark on June 02, 2020, 02:35:33 PM
Lovely additions Gary  :)
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on June 02, 2020, 04:19:43 PM
Aren't the flags upside down???

BTW, do TAG and Foundry mix up well? I've never seen a comparison pic...

In other order of things: great painting! Hope you get some "french" rivals in the area (or enough patience to build your own french army)

Upside down flags - Oops.  Thanks - well spotted.  I'll make some adjustments later.

Comparison - I'll be putting up some pics of the TAG Spanish Pike shortly and you can judge if they match well.

French - My regular war gaming opponent is covering off the French and we'll both be adding some Italians to our forces.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Atheling on June 02, 2020, 10:08:54 PM
Upside down flags - Oops.  Thanks - well spotted.  I'll make some adjustments later.

 lol You're not alone. I did just the same thing with the Queens Colours on Neil's Bluecaps for the Indian Mutiny! lol

I didn't notice until two years later when someone pointed it out  o_o o_o o_o
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on June 13, 2020, 10:37:58 AM
Another unit of Spanish infantry for the Italian Wars.  This time a pike unit, TAG miniatures and Pete's Flags banner (this time the right way up). 

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-310520164238.jpeg)

The tag figures are much smaller then the Foundry Conquistador.  I'll show a comparison in the next post, when I attempt to put the whole lot into a Colunella.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Atheling on June 13, 2020, 11:53:52 AM
Another unit of Spanish infantry for the Italian Wars.  This time a pike unit, TAG miniatures and Pete's Flags banner (this time the right way up). 

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/46/6932-310520164238.jpeg)

The tag figures are much smaller then the Foundry Conquistador.  I'll show a comparison in the next post, when I attempt to put the whole lot into a Colunella.

Great stuff  :-* :-* :-*

Good to see this project getting bigger  8)

I find that the TAG mini's fit really well with the Perry European Mercenaries stuff, although their armours are from a little later. Less so with the bulkier Foundry sculpts- which are great in their own right.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Ray Rivers on June 13, 2020, 12:26:10 PM
Sumptuous!  :-*

I'd be interested in seeing the size comparison. Sometimes I think we put too much importance in making sure all the figures are the same height. That isn't the norm in real life.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Captain Blood on June 13, 2020, 12:52:20 PM
Lovely and vivid  :-*
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: FierceKitty on June 14, 2020, 03:28:27 AM
Sumptuous!  :-*

I'd be interested in seeing the size comparison. Sometimes I think we put too much importance in making sure all the figures are the same height. That isn't the norm in real life.

Hear, hear.
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Romark on June 14, 2020, 08:37:13 AM
Lovely additions Gary  8)
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Troop of Shewe on July 05, 2020, 04:38:18 PM
Great looking unit
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: GamesPoet on July 05, 2020, 05:12:05 PM
Enjoying the figures in this thread, congrats!
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Chriscornwell on July 06, 2020, 10:39:09 AM
Enjoying seeing this project- More please!
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on May 29, 2021, 10:10:03 AM
Although my attention over the last lockdown switched to other things I did manage to finish off two Spanish Colunellas but didn't post pictures at the time.  Here is my take on how they might look.  TAG Pike, Foundry Conquistador for Arquebus and Sword and Buckler men.  Flags by Pete's Flags.

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/51/6932-290521090818.jpeg)

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/51/6932-290521084226-514731006.jpeg)

As you can see the Foundry and TAG miniatures are quite different sizes, especially the Sword and Buckler men, and I think I will have to re-do these units.  :-[  Comparison shot here:

(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/51/6932-290521090627.jpeg)

 I will either use the Foundry Spanish Pike to match the others or replace the Arquebus/Swordsmen figures with TAG figures so they match.  Perhaps both so that I have different units but each unit with the same style of figures.  I am also keen to see how the forthcoming Atlantic Wargames Conquistadors look and perhaps I might be able to utilise these.  They would certainly be cheaper than Foundry who have put their prices up again.

Either way I will certainly increase the ratio of Arquebus from 8 to 12 or 16 figures in the unit.  Perhaps the best way is to use the current Arqubusiers as skirmish infantry in a separate unit.  Decisions, decisions  :? :?
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Atheling on May 29, 2021, 10:29:19 AM
Delicious stuff  :-*
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Post by: Captain Blood on May 31, 2021, 01:34:37 PM
Beautiful, Gary  :-* A finely curated and decorated collection  :)
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Post by: TheDilfy on June 08, 2021, 11:26:26 AM
A stunning and inspiring army and collection - love the colour palette and the theme  :-* :-*
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Post by: Axebreaker on June 08, 2021, 05:34:41 PM
Beautiful looking force! :-*

Christopher
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: Hu Rhu on June 08, 2021, 10:05:31 PM
Delicious stuff  :-*

Thanks Darren.

Beautiful, Gary  :-* A finely curated and decorated collection  :)

Thanks Richard

A stunning and inspiring army and collection - love the colour palette and the theme  :-* :-*

Beautiful looking force! :-*

Christopher

Thank you both very much. 

I really enjoy the vibrant colours of this period, especially the Italians and I made the assumption that any Spanish force on the Italian mainland would also deck themselves out in similar styles, especially since some of the 'Spanish' troops were actually Neopolitans.

I plan to have an Italian contingent in the army so there is scope for even more flamboyant colours. And then of course there are the Landsknechts.  So much variations in clothing styles, weapons and flags - not to mention the tactics.  What's not to like about this period. :D :D
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: pete on June 11, 2021, 11:21:20 AM
yay!

Love seeing TAG minis mixed with other folks minis...

(and thanks for posting to our Gallery pages, https://theassaultgroup.co.uk/my-account/user-gallery/?ug-gallery=gallery&order-category=92)
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Post by: Bloggard on June 11, 2021, 12:32:44 PM
looking great!
Title: Re: Italian Wars Spanish Army
Post by: caveadsum1471 on June 11, 2021, 07:15:21 PM
Lovely looking Spanish! I don't think the variation is too bad between the Foundry conquistadors and TAG, although the Foundry landsknechts and Swiss are a bit closer, I'm also looking forward to the wargames Atlantic conquistadors either way you're troops look great!
Best Iain