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Miniatures Adventure => Future Wars => Topic started by: Cacique Caribe on May 28, 2020, 09:26:04 AM
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Would a colorful sash suffice, to give them that colorful feel, at least for the captain?
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/6/6e/Firefly_0108_CPH_01.jpg)
Reminds me a bit of the Red Sash Gang in Tombstone, but it might do.
(https://s22658.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/michael-biehn-and-powers-boothe-post.jpg)
Thoughts?
Dan
PS. Didn’t/Doesn’t RAFM have some guys labeled as “space Pirates”? If so, what specifically gave them that feel?
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Why not? The essence of pirates is freedom, so you could mix people in camo fatigues with guys wearing tiger tights
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There’s really only one choice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAbkh4TMRqg
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How weird - I;m working on a load of space pirates at the mo and have been thinking about this a lot. I like the Rogue Trader approach - a mix of 'sci-fi' clothes and some nods to classic pirates. Baggy pants but sci fi boots, for example.
I like the slightly silly, pulpy end of sci-fi though, so others' mileage may vary.
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There’s really only one choice.
Quite right.
And it’s Gold Space Armour
https://youtu.be/-4c_KRY9KGo?t=4m46s
(Also acceptable
(https://66.media.tumblr.com/cdc4ef26d85d684b114a438cdb614bb3/tumblr_ndaww7SF201r0h5wwo2_500.jpg)
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There’s really only one choice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAbkh4TMRqg
I'm in complete agreement.
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There was a contest (https://www.deviantart.com/search/deviations?order=recommended&q=Cosmic%20Corsair%20Original%20Character%20Competition) on Deviantart, regarding this very subject. I can't see much more than if I'd just searched "space pirate", though.
I would probably have the motley bunch of non-uniformed working-class spacers in their favourite but worn-out used future style clothing and equipment kit, maybe battle jackets like metalheads or bikies, maybe a goth or emo, and some with some quite obvious cybernetics/bionics or biomods. Crazy mix of weapons, body armour models, and definitely powered armour and spacesuit armour, often unrecognisable from its original state due to scavenging parts for repairs and not-exactly-factory upgrades.
Skulls may exist as a matter of course, with metalheads and space bikies on the crew, but it shouldn't be there if it is an overtly pirate-y symbol. After all, who do you suspect is going to rob you and leave you out in space to die?
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Dhj1uFqSL._AC_.jpg)
(https://scifi.dk/c/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Andromedaseriescrew.jpg)
Or, perhaps:
(https://occ-0-92-1722.1.nflxso.net/dnm/api/v6/E8vDc_W8CLv7-yMQu8KMEC7Rrr8/AAAABWupBrmKBbiYGiI3hmlF2HyO1Ej_gwBvl44RPACf3kATO_rK8YYa1Xsas-4ugOH_4GgA2UbdHwUKm4vZsyG3c7l73gcH.jpg?r=9f4)
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Whilst I think the temptation is to give each space pirate a unique costume, a bit of visual coherency goes a long way. The way I'd approach it would be to select a small palette of desaturated colours (perhaps a white, a washout out blue, greys and browns) and a single spot colour (a bright red or yellow). Every figure's outfit would be comprised of the palette, with one key item picked out in the spot colour (a headband, striped trousers, a sash etc).
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I always quite liked Disney treasure planet thought it had early 40k feel?
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I still like these from a truly ancient and long vanished website called Space Station Homeless
(https://i.imgur.com/SYFDA4P.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gPuXk8y.jpg)
Actual Pirates:-
(https://spectatorau.imgix.net/content/uploads/2019/06/Somali_pirates_2012.jpg?auto=compress,enhance,format&crop=faces,entropy,edges&fit=crop&w=820&h=550)
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What about frostgrave crewmen, with the Northstar pirate conversion heads and hand weapons and scifi guns?
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Hahah look at my instagram, that's exactly what I've been working on!
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I'm probably showing my Games Workshop origins here, but I find that V's Into the Void... (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=113677.0) project is exactly how I picture Space Pirates.
(https://images.beastsofwar.com/forumuploads/1310366/2018/12/05/T0fjha2mfqlp7bffusvqbvq8rhrxiehv4.jpg)
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For literary inspiration read the Ketty Jay series by Chris Wooding. :)
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this is probably not much help but I imagine the answer is "Carefully" or any way they ask you too lol
Sorry I will get my coat ;D
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this is probably not much help but I imagine the answer is "Carefully" or any way they ask you too lol
Sorry I will get my coat ;D
LOL. I was asking for that for sure. That reminds me of the time I asked (on TMP, I think) how would you paint spots or stripes on a big cat.
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I'd probably go with a mix of para-military, civilian and (if necessary) space suits (with or without armour, depending on setting). I'd also make sure there was at least one robot in the pirate band.
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I suppose it depends on your setting, if you have a gothic style, then go for 40Kish type stuff, if you have a StarWars style, go for Han Solo or Lando styles of clothing.
One thing for me about pirates would be to avoid a uniform look. To my mind they would be in whatever clothes they and equipment they could get their hands on, a mix of civilian and military gear.
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I'd also make sure there was at least one robot in the pirate band.
A parrot-sized one? :)
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A set of space pirates would be nice to have, I do favor more the goth style myself.
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A set of space pirates would be nice to have, I do favor more the goth style myself.
If I won the lottery I'd love to commission Bob Murch (of pulp figures fame) to do a whole new range of Rogue Trader style pirates. A man can dream! There's some Ghost Archipelago bits in here to make space pirates
https://www.instagram.com/p/CAkwZrwHHsU/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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They should look like a bunch of rebels.
(https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/star-wars-rogue-one-lucasfilms.jpg?quality=85&w=1200&h=628&crop=1)
The only reason to make them look cohesive is if they belonged to a particularly high-class merc outfit or had emails of marque and reprisal.
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You are right in that they would not be wanting to look like they are part of a club.
But call them a bunch of rebels? LOL. Why not political activists then? :)
Smugglers? Yes.
Robbers? Yes.
Extortionists? Yes.
Rebels? No.
And they might not start out “wanting to” stand out like sore thumbs but, once they come across a choice trinket, or little battle trophy or piece of apparel they really won’t be able to help themselves, and will end up putting it on. To flaunt their power and individuality a little, specially when going into town. But very few people can really pull off wearing 1-carat diamond cuff links with skinny jeans and sneakers. :)
But if they control a fixed territory and a chunk of the population, like a drug cartel does, I can see why their anti-government tactics might confuse them a little and make them think they are rebels of some kind.
Dan
PS. That said, for some “a fancy hat” might be more than enough, specially if you’re looking to appear like a respectable member of the community:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV_BqOJYHbI
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If you look at this link, a little ways down you will see a rough and ragged looking group of converted Necromunda enforcers. Might be a good base for some better kited out pirates. https://hntdaab.co.uk/blog/2020/06/01/wargaming-week-01-06-2020/
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Hmm. Very mercenary-ish in overall look. They must know how to manage their income better than most traditional pirates/Vikings. :)
Dan
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I think the new GW Orlock models would make good space pirates, the harpoon launcher model screams it
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There's always THESE...
(https://tellyspotting.kera.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/RT-Blake-7-main-pic-bb5d794.jpg)
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Who are they?
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Who are they?
Blakes 7 - Sci-fi show from the UK about freedom fighters escaping from a totalitarian controlling empire, very kitsch, very 70s.
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Blakes 7
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLIv-DVrjhZJqb7hvTVgL_w
Like most TV shows the quality of the story lines vary greatly across the episodes but overall a fun show to watch while painting.
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Thanks! I’ll check it out.
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@ Dan - they is also this old film https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087451/
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Here’s one look.
https://cdn1.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/768x433/2012/05/firefly_cast.jpg
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Another group.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwhatculture.com%2Ffilm%2Fguardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-2-25-wtf-moments%3Fpage%3D10&psig=AOvVaw14V7zwyXBhAJOLQtY6X0Tj&ust=1592229764545000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCNjJ4p68geoCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAK
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This is a nice group too.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.denofgeek.com%2Fmovies%2F10-remarkable-things-about-john-carpenters-ghosts-of-mars%2F&psig=AOvVaw16MTZZtXy0op-F3JDmsAFN&ust=1592229892935000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCJj_q9u8geoCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAI
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Update:
Would these 15mm Pico Armor figures, called “Los Bravos”, pass for Space Pirates? :)
https://www.picoarmor.com/product/sf-1536-los-bravos/
Dan
PS. They remind me of the Pirates of Ersatz:
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/24035/24035-h/24035-h.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shP8GsOpBNU
https://www.blackgate.com/2013/10/16/vintage-treasures-the-pirates-of-zan-by-murray-leinster/
(http://www.philsp.com/data/images/a/astounding_science_fiction_aust_195905.jpg)
(https://www.blackgate.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/The-Pirates-of-Zan-Ace-Double2.jpg)
(https://www.blackgate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/The-Pirates-of-Zan-Ace-Double.jpg)
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Why not all of them?
Since piracy is quite prolific in human history and in virtually any and every culture that has access to the sea/major water system. If you had a civilization that managed to easily or steadily access other Solar systems, I suspect given how big a single star system is you'd have piracy to some extent virtually everywhere and in every form (if anyone here plays or has plays Elite Dangerous then you'll know what I mean, almost no asteroid belt DOESN'T have a pirate or two).
I suppose though to some extent things can become blurred, the lines between Pirate/Terrorists/Insurgent/Criminal Gangs blurs with a possible faction taking on all aspects of each or an Alliance of groups I.E Pirates transport contraband for a Mega City Crime syndicate. But I'd use that as the basis of 'what does these Pirates look like?' - who or maybe who do they not associate with.
My current pirate factions/Inspirations are thus:
Belt Shotta - Literally The Expanse Belters, miner one day, pirate the next. Exist virtually everywhere to some degree. Carry kit that is virtually indistinguishable from most Asteroid mining ops except likely of second hand quality with the more dedicated trouble makers covering their kit in gang/station iconography (imagine anything designed to soften impacts from debri in space is a decent stopgap choice to protect against shrapnel etc in both Void and Atmospheric environments). Uses a mixture of basic firearms usually available on the open market, stolen military hardware and altered mining equipment as weapons. Predominantly an issue for Cargo carriers and Orbital/Deep space stations with minimal security (I.E no military). Rarely seen planet side - occasionally Spec Ops Units and Elite Search and Destroy Naval vessels are called in to 'Cut the Grass' and give their greener members some experience when Shottas get too experienced.
Space Vikings - Thankfully quite rare. Vikings are the ancestors of nomads from the basic propulsion eras. They live beyond the official frontier line in space that is barely explored. Although beholden to an age of extreme scientific discovery they tint such knowledge with Pagan beliefs, some new and profoundly alien, others based on one or more ancient Earth customs. They name their war parties after their myths (Fenrirs Rage, Arrows of Obatala, Gaze of Anubis etc). They often dress to fit whatever perceived culture they have adopted. Many have been witnessed wearing a mixture of basic to highly advanced power armor some of which is stolen, others self made and often imbued with symbols such as runes etc to promote battlefield luck. They will target anything or go anywhere if the loot is right and sometimes will even pick fights with Military forces just for kicks.
Jolly Rogers - Sometimes referred to as a Space Dandy. Often wear overly garish or 'antiquated' clothing and stylized weapons. Their leaders are often narcissist's who're heavily tapped into Social Media and commit piracy not so much to lift goods but to commit increasingly brazen acts against System authorities that help to increase their fan base. They're often keen to attract Aliens and other weirdoes (Animorphs, bots, Clones). This is a way of 'characterizing' their crews and to dodge viewer backlash when they get vaporized during a daring boarding action (Neu-tube statistics show viewers are turned off to Influencers when showing Holo-projections of humans being spaced and result in ad-money suspension). Mostly handled by local security as they're more a nuisance than a real threat, although some Jolly Roger conglomerates like the BB (Black-Beard) Syndicate have required military action.
Reavers-"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing – and if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order." all while to the sound of Crazy Frog on repeat. Dressed up as Hobo-Zombie civilians with a hint of Slaanesh.
So you get the idea. Go mad, maybe have a crew of all the conceivable types of Pirates you can think of.
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I went for an anything goes attitude with my Rogue Trader pirates. I've pretty much got an army of the barmy buggers!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sE1VVLEY7Ic/VubA-OkkwwI/AAAAAAAAEUc/PhF8PJfbbQA/s640/blogger-image-1451406162.jpg)