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Title: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: Wiegraf on June 03, 2020, 05:57:49 AM
Hello everyone.

I did a little video of an unboxing of Wargames Atlantic's new Persian Infantry, and compared the size and style to the old Wargame Factory plastics that have been around for a long time.

https://youtu.be/7-RAXzNaPtg

Hope this helps some folks here if they're considering to add some new Persians to their Wargames Factory armies!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: wmyers on June 03, 2020, 07:12:25 AM
Thank you for the reviews!

Technically these are also Wargames Factory as that is who is making these for Wargames Atlantic.
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: Wiegraf on June 03, 2020, 07:18:49 AM
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Thank you for the reviews!

Technically these are also Wargames Factory as that is who is making these for Wargames Atlantic.


That's good! Though they're obviously under a new name . . . Let's call them the upgrade!
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: Grumpy Gnome on June 03, 2020, 08:34:33 AM
Good review, thanks!
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: chema1986 on June 03, 2020, 08:39:23 AM
Thank you mate, good review!    some parts and miniatures would be useful even for Parthian or Sassanid, imho.
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: cadbren on June 04, 2020, 10:50:00 AM
With some head and shield swaps they could be Celts or Dacians. Good review.

Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: AdamPHayes on June 04, 2020, 07:04:05 PM
Thank you for the reviews!

Technically these are also Wargames Factory as that is who is making these for Wargames Atlantic.

Not sure that is true.
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: Belgian on June 04, 2020, 07:38:45 PM
Not sure that is true.

Would also like to know, where you got that information @wmyers?

Could be possible they use the same manufacturer (not sure) but don't think they are the same company as the defunct Wargames Factory.
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: Wiegraf on June 04, 2020, 10:30:28 PM
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Would also like to know, where you got that information @wmyers?

Could be possible they use the same manufacturer (not sure) but don't think they are the same company as the defunct Wargames Factory.

I could see it being the same manufacturer, but the company being totally different. The factory in China could specialize in plastic objects / toys and also did up Wargames Factory's models, and many factories will produce items for multiple companies.

Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: aphillathehun on June 05, 2020, 12:52:42 AM

Awesome review.  Thanks for putting it up!

40 figs is almost enough for a unit....   :o
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: bazookajoe on June 05, 2020, 02:03:29 AM
Thanks, great video! The kit looks really nice and compatible with the older figures.   I might just paint some ancient Greeks to have a go at those Persians.
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: aphillathehun on June 05, 2020, 03:36:46 PM

So, can you make Immortals with these, or should they have a different kit?
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: wmyers on June 05, 2020, 10:48:52 PM
Here is some in-depth information about the figures from Jeff Jonas of Ancient Battles.com

http://www.ancientbattles.com/Wargames_Atlantic_Persians_28mm/Wargames_Atlantic_Persians_28mm.html (http://www.ancientbattles.com/Wargames_Atlantic_Persians_28mm/Wargames_Atlantic_Persians_28mm.html)
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: AdamPHayes on June 06, 2020, 12:01:46 AM
So, can you make Immortals with these, or should they have a different kit?

Yes. Although the Immortals are sometimes shown in long Persian robes, on campaign they probably wore the same Median style as everyone else. Duncan Head has them with armour over their tunics. Nick Sekunda has them is high quality colourful versions of the same tunic and trousers. Lots of purple and saffron colours.
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: wmyers on June 06, 2020, 01:08:18 AM
Would also like to know, where you got that information @wmyers?

Could be possible they use the same manufacturer (not sure) but don't think they are the same company as the defunct Wargames Factory.

You can read about it at Beasts of War https://www.beastsofwar.com/scifi/wargames-atlantics-sci-fi-soldiers-skeletons/ (https://www.beastsofwar.com/scifi/wargames-atlantics-sci-fi-soldiers-skeletons/)

Wai Kee Hui runs Ghost Studio. 
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: wmyers on June 06, 2020, 01:13:15 AM
I could see it being the same manufacturer, but the company being totally different. The factory in China could specialize in plastic objects / toys and also did up Wargames Factory's models, and many factories will produce items for multiple companies.

It is true they make moulds for other miniatures companies; like Warlord Games.

Check out the sprues for their new Crimean War figures.
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: lord marcus on June 22, 2020, 08:05:19 PM
It is true they make moulds for other miniatures companies; like Warlord Games.

Check out the sprues for their new Crimean War figures.

*Official wargames Atlantic hat on*

Wargames atlantic is not wargames factory. Full stop.

Furthermore, the factory we use is NOT that used by Wargames factory.

Please direct any further questions to my attention.

Kind regards,

Max
Wargames atlantic team
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: lord marcus on June 22, 2020, 08:06:20 PM
Thank you for the reviews!

Technically these are also Wargames Factory as that is who is making these for Wargames Atlantic.

No.

No we are not.
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: wmyers on June 23, 2020, 12:00:26 AM
So you’re now using a different company?

I had noticed the newest sprues are different (no alignment tabs like the Skeletons, Raumjager)).

I have no problem with it either way.  I do like the alignment tabs for shipping- less damage to the sprues (scrape marks, missing pieces, broken pieces).
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: lord marcus on June 23, 2020, 12:11:08 AM
So you’re now using a different company?

I had noticed the newest sprues are different (no alignment tabs like the Skeletons, Raumjager)).

I have no problem with it either way.  I do like the alignment tabs for shipping- less damage to the sprues (scrape marks, missing pieces, broken pieces).

Our sprues have never been made by war games factory or their production facility.

The alignment tabs you speak of work coincidental similarity that we mixed in order to be able to fit more sprues in the box.
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: Calimero on June 23, 2020, 10:17:13 PM
Would also like to know, where you got that information @wmyers?

Could be possible they use the same manufacturer (not sure) but don't think they are the same company as the defunct Wargames Factory.


You can read about it at Beasts of War https://www.beastsofwar.com/scifi/wargames-atlantics-sci-fi-soldiers-skeletons/ (https://www.beastsofwar.com/scifi/wargames-atlantics-sci-fi-soldiers-skeletons/)

Wai Kee Hui runs Ghost Studio.

Sorry wmyers, but I read the article and the comments on the page you pointed to, but I don’t see any mention of Wai Kee Hui… I did saw a few comments telling Wargames Atlantic isn’t Wargames Factory…
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: lord marcus on June 23, 2020, 10:22:24 PM


Sorry, but I read the article and the comments on the page you pointed to, but I don’t see any mention of Wai Kee Hui… I did saw a few comments telling Wargames Atlantic isn’t Wargames Factory…

One more time.....

We, Wargames atlantic, are not Wargames factory and do not use any of the same manufacturing partners.
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: Calimero on June 23, 2020, 10:25:58 PM
That's the point of my post...
One more time.....

We, Wargames atlantic, are not Wargames factory and do not use any of the same manufacturing partners.

That's the point of my post... maybe I wasn't clear enough :? I changed it a little  8)
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: lord marcus on June 23, 2020, 11:31:56 PM
That's the point of my post...
That's the point of my post... maybe I wasn't clear enough :? I changed it a little  8)

Cheers. I apologise for my confusion.


I've had to clarify this a lot, lately
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: GamesPoet on June 24, 2020, 12:37:32 AM
Regardless of all the confusion ... it is my understanding the plastics are being produced in China.
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: lord marcus on June 24, 2020, 06:14:44 AM
Regardless of all the confusion ... it is my understanding the plastics are being produced in China.

This is correct. Our sprue production facility is in china, but it is not the one WGF used/uses
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: wmyers on June 24, 2020, 06:52:06 AM
Sounds like there may be more to this. 

Regardless, the figures are beautiful and well done.  The subject matter is excellent. 

I know I will continue to buy these figures and I hope there will be many more sets made for a very long time!
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: lord marcus on June 24, 2020, 01:36:40 PM
Sounds like there may be more to this. 

Regardless, the figures are beautiful and well done.  The subject matter is excellent. 

I know I will continue to buy these figures and I hope there will be many more sets made for a very long time!


More? What more info could there be?

If you have questions, let me know. I'm Wargames Atlantics community engagement rep.
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: GamesPoet on June 24, 2020, 04:10:35 PM
Regardless of all the confusion ... it is my understanding the plastics are being produced in China.
This is correct. Our sprue production facility is in china, but it is not the one WGF used/uses
I look forward to when the plastics are not produced in China.
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: lord marcus on June 27, 2020, 05:27:17 AM
This is correct. Our sprue production facility is in china, but it is not the one WGF used/uses
I look forward to when the plastics are not produced in China.

That is probably going to be a long ways off. They have the technical expertise when it comes to plastics production. Furthermore, they are inexpensive by comparison.
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: AdamPHayes on June 27, 2020, 10:32:27 AM
That is probably going to be a long ways off. They have the technical expertise when it comes to plastics production. Furthermore, they are inexpensive by comparison.

Although that doesn’t really translate to the customer price. More or less the same as UK moulded figures...
Title: Re: Wargames Atlantic VS Wargames Factory Persian Infantry. An Unboxing Video.
Post by: lord marcus on June 27, 2020, 04:59:38 PM
Although that doesn’t really translate to the customer price. More or less the same as UK moulded figures...

It translates to more sets produced per year, rather than cost savings.