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Miniatures Adventure => Age of Myths, Gods and Empires => Topic started by: dadlamassu on June 13, 2020, 05:22:53 PM
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I am thinking of raising armies for the Hannibal's Punic War and have been looking at the various ranges available. In particular I am attracted to the Agema Republican Romans and would like the Carthaginians to be of similar size. The Agema Carthaginian range in plastic is quite limited.
Another reason why I am asking is that I have some Agema Velites and they are quite tall in comparison to my other plastic figures by Gripping Beast and Warlord Games.
If anyone has or can point me to a comparison photo I would be most grateful. I have tried looking on the internet without success and also used the "search" facility here but get the message "Data Base error".
Thanks
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The Agema plastics are the same height as the Victrix Carthaginians but slightly slimmer and more proportional.
(https://wargamewarrior.webs.com/Blog%20pictures/RRoman09.jpg)
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Many thanks, I knew the velites were taller but was not sure about the other Romans. So I'll give them a miss as they appear to be half a head to a head taller than my other "older pattern" 25s and 28s.
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Given the excellent Punic Wars range by Victrix, I wouldn't bother with Agema. IMHO their poses are slightly stiff, they have a very limited set of poses and not as many variations in terms of helmets etc. I bought some when they first came out and quickly dumped them in favour of the Victrix figures, albeit a few of their kneeling triarii are in my units but with Victrix heads and weapons.
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Hi I found the Agema less stiff - they are in movement- whereas the Victrix Romans are just standing there ...
The Victrix are easier to rank, have the oversized heads and hands that are common, whereas Agema are more realistic proportions. The latter of which just doesn’t seem to have caught on.
Like Hu Rhu referenced, it’s the head and weapons that really set them apart (and the slighter bodies).
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Thanks, the Victrix ones may be better but they are taller than most of my existing figures, the Agema ones are thinner and appear only slightly taller. I think I may buy a sprue of each and see for myself.
Thanks again.
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Thanks, the Victrix ones may be better but they are taller than most of my existing figures, the Agema ones are thinner and appear only slightly taller. I think I may buy a sprue of each and see for myself.
Thanks again.
What are your existing figures?
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What are your existing figures?
For my Republican, Early and Late Imperial Romans and enemies of Rome I have a mix of Gripping Beast, Warlord, Perry (Mahdists as North Africans, slaves etc) in plastic, metal figures from Foundry, Warlord, Black Tree Design, Bad Squiddo, Gangs of Rome, some odd figures from other historical and older fantasy ranges. So all on the "smaller 28mm" side. All sorts picked up at bring and buys, shows, ebay etc. so long as they a the of the smaller stature. I am happy with a few taller figures as that is real life but not a whole army of 7 foot tall giants.
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I think I'm in the minority, in that I actually prefer the Agema miniatures. Victrix is generally excellent, but in my personal opinion their Greek and Roman ranges have some awkward poses, are kinda boxy, and too broad-shouldered. Just my 0.02, I know that they're generally very highly regarded.
The Agema miniatures scale well with the Warlord (formerly Immortal Miniatures) Hoplites, too, of which I already had a large collection, so that was a plus for me.
I will say that a drawback to the Agema miniatures is the limited options for principes and triarii, of which I believe there are only one standing and one kneeling body.
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That’s a very good observation about the Immortal (Warlord) Greeks.
I have been trying to replace their heads with other makes to get them to fit in.
You’re not alone in liking Agema.
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I will say that a drawback to the Agema miniatures is the limited options for principes and triarii, of which I believe there are only one standing and one kneeling body.
The Carthaginian veterans sprue gives the possibility for a lot more choice for Triari and Principes. There is also a small range of really excellent metal figures to further add to the variety.
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There are some odd scaling issues with both Agema and Victrix, both manufacturers have miniatures from the same range being various sizes. Agema has beautiful metal sculpts though.
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Hi,
I have both sets in my collection. I initially purchased the Republican Romans Victrix as I quite liked the Greeks Mercernary set. The casts are good, crisp and clean and the Centurions looked cool. However whenI started putting them together I found them a bit static. This was before I started kit bashing from other Victrix sets. I have gone back to Victrix for their macedonian range as though static they work quite well ranked up. Though I may take a look at the Warlord range to compare... I digress
I then purchased the plastic set of Romans, Initially they looked OK and the casts were clean. I then purchased their Metal Republican Romans and wow they are nice figures.
Paint wise the really work if you use GW Contrast paints and I have started to kit bash the plastic set to with the Carthaginians to build a small Etruscan force. So for me the Agema, I will post some painted minis so you can see what they look like painted.
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Here are some pics, not great pics but you can see how the Agema minis paint up.
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Hi,
Here are some pics of the Agema minis.
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Here are some pics, not great pics but you can see how the Agema minis paint up.
Nice :-* anyone of you know where to find some decals suitable for them?
I got an army to paint and I found only this: https://www.wargametransfers.com/agema-miniatures-shields.html very ncice, but I would like to paint it myself I just need the figure: "wolf", "boar" etc... VeniVidiVici got only for imperials.
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Thanks, Agema figures ordered.
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Nice :-* anyone of you know where to find some decals suitable for them?
I got an army to paint and I found only this: https://www.wargametransfers.com/agema-miniatures-shields.html very ncice, but I would like to paint it myself I just need the figure: "wolf", "boar" etc... VeniVidiVici got only for imperials.
VVV also have decals for Republican Romans (they just don't advertise it well and it's mixed in another area, for some unknown reason)
http://www.3vwargames.co.uk/upshop/shop/extras25mm.html (http://www.3vwargames.co.uk/upshop/shop/extras25mm.html)
XX2 is the stock number and it is mixed in with "Extras". I have no idea where it would be on the Magister Militum site ... Sorry.
Found it: https://www.magistermilitum.com/xx2-republican-roman.html
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VVV also have decals for Republican Romans (they just don't advertise it well and it's mixed in another area, for some unknown reason)
http://www.3vwargames.co.uk/upshop/shop/extras25mm.html (http://www.3vwargames.co.uk/upshop/shop/extras25mm.html)
XX2 is the stock number and it is mixed in with "Extras". I have no idea where it would be on the Magister Militum site ... Sorry.
Found it: https://www.magistermilitum.com/xx2-republican-roman.html
MANY THANKS... I looked for them several time on VVV site. 8)
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I know that you asked specifically for plastics, but I would dare to recommend you Aventine Miniatures range. In my opinion, they are excellent and while more expensive than plastics I prefer them. And they have Allied Legions! :D
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I’d have to say that parallels my journey with Agema and Victrix as well!
Warlord Macedonian pikemen work exceptionally well alongside the Victrix Macedonians. The heads of the Victrix Macedonians are not as large as their Greeks so you can put the extra Victrix Macedonian heads into Immortal/Warlord plastic classic Greeks.
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I know that you asked specifically for plastics, but I would dare to recommend you Aventine Miniatures range. In my opinion, they are excellent and while more expensive than plastics I prefer them. And they have Allied Legions! :D
Thanks, I have some Aventine metal figures amongst my Imperial Romans and I do like them. That said I also like to "bulk out" some units with plastic figures which is part of the reason for my initial request.
I am also looking at the Agema metals for characters and specialists.
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I painted a Agema Republican Army for a customer I thought they were nice miniatures, a little finer in detail and slighter in build to other ranges, ranked up nicely, although I would of liked more command figure options.
Cheers
Matt