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Title: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: VonAkers on July 09, 2020, 09:00:21 AM
Hi Guys

A couple of questions.
Zulu war cavalry 28mm , which look the best ?..Empress or Perry?
Secondly do they work together?  , as the Perrys look a bit smaller , and the horses look way smaller ??
Your thoughts ?
Cheers
Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: Plynkes on July 09, 2020, 09:42:49 AM
I've got some coming from both firms in the post right now. I'll let you know how they look together!  :)


While both do look very nice, for me the Perry ones edge it very slightly just as far as the sculpts go (there is one Empress horse pose in particular that I'm not really a fan of). But Perry don't do Native Horse so I decided to get some from each company and hope for the best.


Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: VonAkers on July 09, 2020, 01:12:22 PM
Hi Plynkes
That sounds great , thanks for that .
I wonder if they fit together .
Did you notice Perry do some dismounted 17th Lancers as well , including Horse holders excellent for skirmish
I dont mind the Empress Cav .. just not the lancers
I agree the Perry ones are nice , but  so are the Empress .
However the Empress ones dont have the Lance  vertical , and look like they just contacted a target , if you know what I mean, I prefer the vertical look.
Funnily enough I only want the riders , dont need the horses ..not even for earth .. I am mounting Mine on Martian  Gashants for Space 1889 >> lol!!!..
You probably just lost all interest right ..lol
I will send  you some pics.
Cheers mate
Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: Plynkes on July 09, 2020, 01:37:54 PM
Hey, I may be the colonial guy around here, but I have a real soft spot for Space 1889! It may not feature in my tabletop battle games these days, but I have fond memories of the RPG and the board game "Temple of the Beastmen."



I haven't purchased any lancers, being a bit more interested in gaming with the irregular horse and the MI. Haven't bought any dismounted figures either. I was planning on giving TMWWBK a shot, and you don't really need dismounted figures for that. Might get some later on though, just for completeness.



Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: juergen c. olk on July 09, 2020, 01:46:52 PM
Both are equally nice..I have painted the Perry's..a joy to paint.
Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: Helen on July 09, 2020, 02:01:17 PM
I much prefer the Perry Miniatures Zulu War range for my collection. Okay, they don't do a dismounted Natal Carbineers command or dismounted Imperial Mounted Infantry, but a bit of modelling can sort that out.

I'm not into painting the British Lancers at the moment, as I prefer the volunteers and IMI.

I've not updated my Zulu War project on this forum as yet, but I'll show some here. I'm just working on the dismounted Imperial Mounted Infantry from Perry Miniatures.

I just need to model an officer to go with the bugler.

(https://i.imgur.com/gsGenG7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kUdxZ13.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cLth7yo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/B4YhR3E.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Do4sZ9k.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rNtn6YX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PSA2amQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: Plynkes on July 09, 2020, 02:08:38 PM
Lovely stuff, Helen! Thanks for posting. Look forward to seeing some more in time.





Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: VonAkers on July 09, 2020, 02:11:21 PM
Hi Helen
Very nice Brush work , and I really Like your basing as well.
Most people, dont nail that.
Cheers
Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: VonAkers on July 09, 2020, 02:13:45 PM
Thank you all for the feedback
So it is Perry by the nose until we see Plynkes figures then .
Cheers
Ps I should have some pics up shortly
Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: Helen on July 09, 2020, 02:14:12 PM
Lovely stuff, Helen! Thanks for posting. Look forward to seeing some more in time.

Thanks Dylan for your kind words. I've been working on this collection for the past two plus years. Loads more to show, but I'll leave that for another time.
My other Natal Carbineers troop commander. Two troop commanders an a overall squadron commander which is the base with the bugler.

(https://i.imgur.com/xuGKyN3.jpg)
Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: Helen on July 09, 2020, 02:16:13 PM
Hi Helen
Very nice Brush work , and I really Like your basing as well.
Most people, dont nail that.
Cheers

Thank you. Yes, the basing has come up a treat. Many thanks.
Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: Plynkes on July 12, 2020, 12:55:04 PM
Here we go. Perhaps not as useful as I first thought, given that I didn't know your guys will be riding gashants on Mars, but it might help...



(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/47/163-120720114223-471791038.jpeg)

Here we have a Perry Frontier Light horseman, flanked by Empress Native Horse and a Boer from the Transvaal Burgher Force (mmm... burgers, I had a lovely Wagyu burger last night).








(http://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/47/163-120720114223-471782500.jpeg)

And an Empress volunteer horsemen of one of those pointy-hatted outfits (I forget which one) flanked by a Perry Natal Carbineer and Mounted Infantryman.


I didn't want any lancers (at least not yet), so I can't help down to that level, but at least it gives you an idea. Personally I'll be perfectly happy to mix these guys on the tabletop. It's interesting that you assumed Perry figures are smaller (not a criticism, I assumed it myself), but the Perry FLH guy actually seems a little larger than the Empress NNH fellow next to him. Quite the opposite of what I expected. On the whole I think the Perry ones are slightly larger than Empress. Nonetheless, I'm fine with using them together, as I said.

Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: Atheling on July 12, 2020, 01:02:15 PM
Very useful comparison and you're spot on- one tends to assume that the Perry stuff would be slighter then the Empress stuff.

Thanks for posting  8)
Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: Curassier on July 12, 2020, 01:21:06 PM
Gorgeous work Helen, please can you provide some info on how you did the command figures for the carabineers
many thanks
JM
Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: Mike1879 on July 12, 2020, 04:38:05 PM
Nice conversions on those Carbinier officers Helen
Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: Mike1879 on July 12, 2020, 06:35:14 PM
Plynkes the Empress NNH figure looks smaller due to the rider being seated on a Basuto pony which is smaller than horses used by British and Volunteer units. This was done purposely by Empress to reflect the smaller sized horses used by African troops.
Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: Plynkes on July 12, 2020, 07:08:10 PM
Cheers, Mike.

Don't think that applies to the ones in the lower picture, though. The Empress looks smaller there, at least to me. Though, like I already said, not enough to bother me.


Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: Mike1879 on July 12, 2020, 07:35:04 PM
Plynkes I use both Perry and Empress Mixed on my table and like you said it’s nothing to bother about. I guess Perry are slightly larger than Empress but it’s definitely not noticeable with large numbers of figures in play.
Paul Hicks of Empress fame is currently working on the Orange River range Africa 1840s to 1850s for Iron Duke Miniatures. The Basotho wars currently being sculpted. Some stunning figures coming up and worth checking out the website
Title: Re: Zulu War Cavalry
Post by: Plynkes on July 12, 2020, 08:24:39 PM
Yes, I am very much looking forward to seeing that range. It's not like I don't already have enough figures to paint, but I can see myself being tempted by those.