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Title: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Unlucky General on July 21, 2020, 03:12:05 AM
Comrades,

I managed to crack out another Caesarian Roman Cohort for my portrayal of the Legio XI. For those of you not already bored to death by this subject matter, please find the attached link to my blog posting. https://unluckygeneral.blogspot.com/2020/07/ceasarian-romans-legio-xi-cohort-viii.html (https://unluckygeneral.blogspot.com/2020/07/ceasarian-romans-legio-xi-cohort-viii.html)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UL4ELn3DMII/XxYzTVi-grI/AAAAAAAAEoQ/FmtDuSUxHTUrOTZzKktrKrHCV-rK5Gh9ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/IMG_8636.JPG)
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Digits on July 21, 2020, 08:49:12 AM
The money shot for me is the fella with his hand cut off!

Keep going...
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Tas on July 21, 2020, 11:25:51 AM
Looking awesome! Your collection is most inspiring  :-*
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Atheling on July 21, 2020, 11:49:46 AM
Lovely work  8)

Those Warlord Caesarian Roman Legionaries look a lot better then I thought they would do.

Do you know how they match up size wise with the likes of Foundry?
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Fremitus Borealis on July 21, 2020, 12:01:53 PM
Looks great! I love the soldier with the missing hand  lol What range is he from (or was he kitbashed?)
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: wmyers on July 21, 2020, 06:21:11 PM
Lovely work  8)

Those Warlord Caesarian Roman Legionaries look a lot better then I thought they would do.

Do you know how they match up size wise with the likes of Foundry?

They do match up rather well with the Foundry Caesarean Romans. Especially with the wavy plumes cut off like this.  Wargames Factory Caesarean Romans also match up extremely well with the Foundry ones.
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Unlucky General on July 21, 2020, 07:05:27 PM
Atheling,
I'll have to take Wmyers word of matching Foundry Romans but I'm glad to hear it as I've bought quite a few. They are waiting for me to get home. I'll do a figure comparison - they are popular and useful postings which I use myself.

FB,
The maimed legionary is straight from the Warlord Games metal set of wounded Romans. I did add the severed hand at his feet though.

I meant to warn people about those shots - bit late now I suppose.
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Atheling on July 21, 2020, 07:38:26 PM
They do match up rather well with the Foundry Caesarean Romans. Especially with the wavy plumes cut off like this.  Wargames Factory Caesarean Romans also match up extremely well with the Foundry ones.
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I take it that the plumes of the WG and WF Caesarean's are not that great? i rather like the foundry Caesearian Romans with the plumes.

Mind, I still haven't made my mind up whether to go 'barbarian' or Roman for Infamy! :)
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Fremitus Borealis on July 21, 2020, 08:43:20 PM

I meant to warn people about those shots - bit late now I suppose.

 lol Wasn't there an old Monty Python sketch something to that effect? "The previous sketch was disturbing, and should not have been viewed by anyone." Something like that. Or am I just making this up?  lol
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: wmyers on July 21, 2020, 10:59:02 PM
Atheling,
I'll have to take Wmyers word of matching Foundry Romans but I'm glad to hear it as I've bought quite a few. They are waiting for me to get home. I'll do a figure comparison - they are popular and useful postings which I use myself.


Here is the lazy way of taking a comparison photo:

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/1034_19_04_13_7_42_07_0.jpg)

(I just copied it off here)
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Atheling on July 21, 2020, 11:46:16 PM
Here is the lazy way of taking a comparison photo:

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/1034_19_04_13_7_42_07_0.jpg)

(I just copied it off here)

That pretty much settles it for me- Foundry it is..... :)
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Unlucky General on July 22, 2020, 12:00:23 AM
The Wargames Factory figures have been long discontinued. I managed to score a couple of boxes from a Canadian dealer a year or so back. They are not as nice as Warlord or Foundry in my opinion but fair enough. I use them for building my testudos.

BTW, thanks for the comparison shot. Have you got one including Aventine by any chance? I have some of them and they match nicely but I've not seen their unarmoured infantry close up of in comparison to others. I realize this may be asking too much.
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Mad Doc Morris on July 22, 2020, 05:51:33 AM
One could've just put a link to our comparison thread. (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=38197.0) ::)
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Johnny Boy on July 22, 2020, 07:26:16 PM
Quote from: Mad Doc Morris
One could've just put a link to [u
our comparison thread. (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=38197.0)[/u] ::)

A useful thread to say the least, helped me out when I was starting
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: wmyers on July 23, 2020, 12:09:46 AM
The Wargames Factory figures have been long discontinued. I managed to score a couple of boxes from a Canadian dealer a year or so back. They are not as nice as Warlord or Foundry in my opinion but fair enough. I use them for building my testudos.


I am going to guess that was J and M Miniatures.
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: wmyers on July 23, 2020, 12:12:33 AM

BTW, thanks for the comparison shot. Have you got one including Aventine by any chance? I have some of them and they match nicely but I've not seen their unarmoured infantry close up of in comparison to others. I realize this may be asking too much.

Well, I don't but the Lead Adventure Forum does on their 'Ancients Scale Comparison Thread':

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/1034_19_04_13_7_39_15.jpg)

(https://leadadventureforum.com/gallery/12/1034_19_04_13_7_42_08_1.jpg)

https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=38197.0 (https://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=38197.0)
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: bluewillow on July 23, 2020, 08:57:45 AM
Fabulous work mate, project is coming along nicely
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: wmyers on July 23, 2020, 07:05:54 PM
I am interested to find out what made you use the colour blue for their shields?  As well as the horse and numbers?

(It looks very good, by the way, as well as the addition of the legion and cohort numbers and the horse.  They are very distinctive and a definite intermediary between how Imperial Roman shields are depicted and those from the Punic Wars.)
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Unlucky General on July 23, 2020, 07:20:19 PM
Wmyers,

I looked at the shield unit details on earlier and later periods immediately bracketing Caesar's civil war and went to a mid point look. I went with dark blue becasue everyone else was doing red and I wanted to make them a bit different. Also, the HBO series Rome (an absolute firm favourite) whilst using inaccurate shields also used dark blue for the XIII and I like the colour scheme.
I was tossing-up between a green and blue and in my first cohort I've used a few green shields to depict a hangover from a transition to blue for this legion - it was just an idea.
Legio XI is associated with Neptune - hence the trident down the lower spine and the horse - Neptune being the God of all water ways and horses.
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: wmyers on August 02, 2020, 03:50:23 AM
What else works with the Warlord Caesarean Romans are the Victrix Republican Romans and their Allied Legions.

The heads work excellently.  The Warlord necks are angled forward ever so slightly so the just need an angle cut or file if the head looks too downward.

Each sprue has twice as many heads as bodies so you get lots of extras. 60 per box.  The feathers easily trim off. 

The arms fit perfectly too as they are both designed the same way.

The Victrix pila are thicker than Warlord ones so should not break as easily.

If you have them it’s a way to get some more variety.
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Unlucky General on August 02, 2020, 06:28:27 AM
Good to know but likely too late for me I'm afraid. By the time I finish the remaining four boxes of Warlord and at least two cohorts worth of Aventine and Foundry unarmoured Romans I'll have a minimum of 16 cohorts. Even I know when I've hit my limit ... well, mostly.

Come to think about it, I'll need more artillery and cavalry. Hmmm .....
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: wmyers on August 02, 2020, 05:31:08 PM
It’s hard to limit Romans, for some reason.

Maybe you’ll find someone with the extra heads to trade or give you. 

There is always that second legion you were thinking of...
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Atheling on August 02, 2020, 05:52:34 PM
I have found the Aventine sculpts and casts to be of such high quality (including the type of Pewter used) to be the best around.

If Aventine did Cesarean Romans I would buy immediately! My second choice would be the Foundry Cesarean range which has really stood the test of time.

Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: wmyers on August 03, 2020, 12:02:11 AM
I have found the Aventine sculpts and casts to be of such high quality (including the type of Pewter used) to be the best around.

If Aventine did Cesarean Romans I would buy immediately! My second choice would be the Foundry Cesarean range which has really stood the test of time.

And the Aventine prices are not bad, too!

Far more reasonable than Foundry. 

I too would get Aventine Cesarean Romans.

Yes, the Foundry Copplestone Cesareans have stood the test of time.  Their EIR would have as well, if not 25mm...
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Atheling on August 03, 2020, 08:57:27 AM
And the Aventine prices are not bad, too!

Far more reasonable than Foundry. 

I too would get Aventine Cesarean Romans.

I think Aventine and Foundry have different modus operandis. I would say that Aventine is very much fuelled by passion and enthusiasm whilst Foundry is more a traditional purely business based model. I've fired off three emails to Foundry of late and had no reply. It does make one wonder......

Yes, the Foundry Copplestone Cesareans have stood the test of time.  Their EIR would have as well, if not 25mm...

True. The Foundry old EIR range is not to be winked at- it is a high quality range- though if you're going to buy, buy soon as Foundry are rejigging their packs in many ranges and putting up their prices again. In some ranges they are charging £4. for a cavalry model (four to a pack). This would be more understandable if they still had full time sculptors producing new models. This I would be willing to pay for- but not for 20 plus year old models with no qualitative progression
Title: Re: Yet Another Caesarian Cohort
Post by: Corso on August 03, 2020, 01:32:44 PM
Nice painting on those romans :D